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  •  Got to jump in here (1+ / 0-)
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    Maimonides

    No laws of thermodynamics apply to open physical systems?

    You have to appriciate the level at which various sciences act.  From a purely theorectical stand point, all of science should be able to be merged, into 1 giant equation, which means that at some point, the open economic theories could be merged into the closed physical theories of thermodynamics.  HOWEVER, to see that happen would require much deeper and greater understandings than we currently have.  We are just beginning to probe how to merge the sciences of sociology, economics, and neurological bio-chemistry, but we are at VERY early stages.  To move that to include things like physics, and thermodynamics, is a scale that we can't even approach.  

    In short, unless there is a very specific reason (like the thermo energy released from the sun going supernova, thus ending all human economics) applying physics principles to economics is a mistake.

    •  I can't seem to get him to accept this. (1+ / 0-)
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      Cassiodorus

      But I think his belief in this Prew person has something to do with it. God save me from hippie sociology professors and those that read them.

      "When your enemies are throwing Teabagging Protests, mock them." -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

      by Maimonides on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 01:06:58 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah -- (0+ / 0-)

        But I think his belief in this Prew person has something to do with it. God save me from hippie sociology professors and those that read them.

        You don't need God for that -- you've discovered the easy way out, which is to avoid examining Prew's arguments.  Good sweeping dismissals help preserve the ideology in your head against the possibility of alternative ways of thinking.

        "You must do what you feel is right, of course" -- Obi-Wan Kenobi, in Episode IV

        by Cassiodorus on Wed Apr 22, 2009 at 01:39:12 PM PDT

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    •  start with: (0+ / 0-)

      Joan Martinez-Alier, Ecological Eocnomics
      John Peet, Energy and the Ecological Eocnomics of Sustainability
      Robert H. Edgerton, Available Energy and Environmental Economics
      Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen, The Entropy Law and the Economic Process

      "You must do what you feel is right, of course" -- Obi-Wan Kenobi, in Episode IV

      by Cassiodorus on Thu Apr 23, 2009 at 11:21:48 AM PDT

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