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  •  Ever hear the word blowback? (5+ / 0-)

    The GOPers accept that kind of rhetoric, but people who think do not. If the Dems had tried to smear McCain as you propose it would have been a disaster. Liberals and moderates see that kind of politics and get turned off. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for the Glenn Beck crowd.

    I kinda wish we could land more punches like referring to McCain's adulterous past, but we just can't play by their rules. It won't work.

    "we must make the rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for civilization" - Al Gore

    by racerx on Thu Jul 02, 2009 at 11:30:34 AM PDT

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    •  very few people think (1+ / 0-)
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      and the "thinking vote" can be completely disregarded, it's only like 0.0001% of voters.  Nobody wins elections by catering to the thinking people.  You scare the shit out of them, make promises you can't keep, say you'll give them free money and services, and tear down and destroy the fucking life out of your opponent.

      Liberals are typically not very good at playing as dirty as Republicans, but it's not because liberals are so inherently smart such tricks don't work on them - don't kid yourself.  Liberal plans come from the head while conservative plans come from the gut - so the conservative plans are easier to explain to people (requires zero mentation).  It's easier to explain why flag burning should be illegal than why flag burning should be protected.  One goes to the gut, the other goes to the brain.  Gut will always trump brain.  Every time.  No matter the party.

      •  Let me guess (0+ / 0-)

        You're one of the .0001% who thinks, right?

        Here you misconstrue the point made:

        Liberals are typically not very good at playing as dirty as Republicans, but it's not because liberals are so inherently smart such tricks don't work on them - don't kid yourself.

        My point is that liberals and independents don't react positively towards slimeball political attacks. Of course "gut" politics work to a degree on most people. Obama used "gut" issues like showing people out of work or without health care. It works. But gut punches only appeal to people who lack empathy, like Republicans.

        Fortunately there are enough people still left who can see a slimeball attack ad and still realize that not everything they see on TV is the truth. How else do you explain Obama mopping the floor with McCain/Palin? Did Obama use your preferred methods? No. Did McCain? Yes.

        Of course many other factors played into the mix, but I still stand by the point that one side of the spectrum responds well to highly negative politics and the other doesn't. Part of winning elections is tailoring your approach to the swing voters, and from what I have seen the swing voter more often than not reacts negatively to "below the belt" attacks.

        What's cool is that the loonies running the GOP think that those kind of attacks work because they've purged the moderates and all they have left are people who think like they do. I hope this continues.

        I too have advocated taking the gloves off more often. But I have also learned that even though our team has slightly fewer tools in the toolbox, I wouldn't trade them even if we could. We're kicking their asses now and we just need to keep doing it until we get what the people need.

        peace

        "we must make the rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for civilization" - Al Gore

        by racerx on Sat Jul 04, 2009 at 12:50:41 AM PDT

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