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  •  Stared down the blue dogs? (1+ / 0-)
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    soms

    Where would they have found the votes to pass bills without them?

    •  Backroom threats... (2+ / 0-)
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      happymisanthropy, cameoanne

       The administration has never hesitated to play hardball with the progressives.

       

      "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

      by Buzzer on Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 08:58:13 AM PST

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      •  Prove that (0+ / 0-)

        Provide one shred of evidence that, e.g., Joe Lieberman can be coerced into voting our way on anything.

        One shred.

        Negotiating techniques that are useful for progressives, who actually want to get something done and care about voters, are useless with people who like the status quo and could care less about their voters.

        You don't seem to understand the power of the Dark Side.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 09:13:07 AM PST

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        •  Ads (0+ / 0-)

          The Republicans do this kind of thing all the time -- they run ads and propaganda campaigns to hurt the reputations of public figures, and dampen their credibility.

           A nice, effective ad campaign branding Lieberman as a liar and a thief -- which he IS -- might have made a difference...

          "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

          by Buzzer on Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 09:23:48 AM PST

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          •  First backroom threats (0+ / 0-)

            now advertisements.

            Which are not very useful against a Senator such as Lieberman who isn't up for election until 2012.

            Face it - the problem is too big to fix quickly. It will take years, even decades.

            Settle in for a long war.

            In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

            by blue aardvark on Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 09:28:21 AM PST

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      •  What threats could they have pushed? (0+ / 0-)

        The problem here is that, on most of these bills, the Blue Dogs would be perfectly fine without anything passing. So they're not afraid and have no reason to be afraid of threats. That's the one problem with your argument.

        You can't scare people who have no problem with walking away from the deal. It's like going to a car dealership who isn't in a rush to sell a car.

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