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  •  The unintended consequence of this legislation... (2+ / 0-)
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    malharden, dmw97

    could be to essentially end the State Dept. presence in contingency environments and make it very difficult for USAID to oversee their contracts (as they typically piggyback with State when they go into hostile terrain.) DOD, in general, doesn't typically use these mercenary contractors since they are staffed to perform security on their installations.

    I'm certainly not against this measure, just think that it could remove some of our capacity to perform diplomatic and internation AID operations in dangerous places. The DOD will not be effected by this bill as they provide their own security. I'm not sure having the DOD as our lone representative in these parts is a great idea.

    •  Who wants aid being delivered by rogue mercs? (9+ / 0-)

      If the State Dept. needs armed escort, then either send the Army/Marines or don't go.

      I don't see how sending mercinaries that shoot children is a good idea for a humanitarian mission.  They are unacountable criminal thugs.  Get rid of them, and then fix the fallout as it happens.

      Saying our State Dept. is hopelessly dependent on Blackwater is all the more reason to move quickly on this and fix it.

      •  The DOD is fighting a war right now... (1+ / 0-)
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        Its not like they've got thousands of soldiers standing around waiting to provide sentry duties for the State Dept.

        I just want to know what the solution is going to be. We're spread thin right now. Do we take soldiers away from their current duty stations and leave those short of what is considered the appropriate level? Do we pay the military more to make recruiting easier? Do we just stop fighting wars?

        Saying "well let the military do it" is fine, but its not that simple.

        •  Do we just stop fighting wars? (2+ / 0-)
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          Norm in Chicago, dmw97

          How about we stop fighting wars for private profit?

          How about we stop fighting wars that go on year after year, with the primary goal being the sustaining of the profits of the companies that make billions off the war?

          We are now in our 9th year of war in Afghanistan, with no good end in site.

          Desert Storm lasted how long? And gosh, you got to watch it all day on your TV. Now that war was a big bang for the buck!

          In a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste time voting.

          by allenjo on Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 10:11:20 AM PST

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          •  Every war we've ever fought... (0+ / 0-)

            has been about private profits. "Speheres of influence" and "national security," in the American context are based on protecting economic interests. Private profits are the cornerstone of our economy and economic system. And yes, a lot of blood is spilled to defend that very nasty truth.

            •  Looking back at Desert Storm war, I start (1+ / 0-)
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              wondering why did they let that war end so soon?

              In a democracy you vote first and take orders later; in a dictatorship you don't have to waste time voting.

              by allenjo on Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 10:39:54 AM PST

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              •  The Saudis told us so (2+ / 0-)
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                Calamity Jean, allenjo

                Bush the Elder was taking his orders straight from the Saudi royal family.  They ordered us to invade Kuwait, and we did.

                They ordered us not to pursue the Iraqi army into Iraq, and we did as we were told.

                We're in the situations we are, because for 12 years of our recent history, the Saudi royals have been making our military decisions.

        •  Take soldiers from safe duty posts (3+ / 0-)
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          Zinman, Norm in Chicago, judyms9

          e.g. Germany, Japan---unless there's a threat of another World War.

          "Sisters, brothers and the whities, Black and the crackers, Police and their backers, They're all political actors"--Curtis Mayfield

          by Cynic in seattle on Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 10:53:43 AM PST

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        •  Pay raises from the Blackwater funds (4+ / 0-)
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          Orinoco, Calamity Jean, dmw97, judyms9

          Take all the money we've pissed away on Blackwater CEOs and the outrageous sums the mercs get paid relative to our soldiers, and hell yes, give the military soldiers a pay raise.

          We're at 10% unemployment, I think we can raise the number of troops we need to provide State Dept. security.

    •  If that's the issue what (1+ / 0-)
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      is the CIA and FBI for? At least, with the CIA and FBI, there's some measure of oversight and accountability to the Government.

    •  It used to be the Military's job to "guard" the (1+ / 0-)
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      Calamity Jean

      DoS. It worked pretty well until SECDEF Cheney initiated the BRAC that cut the number of troops that we maintain leading to the "on the Cheap" use of Contractors. [choke, spit, gag]

      After Cheney did his hatchet job as SECDEF, he went to work for Halliburton, while his wife Lynne was employed by Lockheed-Martin.

      Get the drift here?

      "...fighting the wildfires of my life with squirt guns."

      by deMemedeMedia on Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 11:40:24 AM PST

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