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  •  We do teach those points of view and (0+ / 0-)

    for good reason.

    ...the Earth is flat

    Textbooks still teach that most people believed the Earth was flat. It's in every history textbook as it well should be. Not because it was ever true, but because it was part of the reason that it took so long for explorers to try and sail to the ends of the Earth. It wasn't until around the time of Columbus that a growing minority of explorers were willing to test their new hypothesis. Then it was only a matter of time before someone got the financial backing to check it out.

    ...Barack Obama is the Antichrist

    When the story of Obama becomes something we teach in the history books we no doubt will mention the opposition to his policies in order to put them into historical context. We might not go so far as to mention the extreme fringe belief that he is "The Antichrist" but we should definitely mention the widely held belief that he is a "socialist". Not to convince anyone that he is or was actually a socialist, but to teach our students the kind of ridiculous claims that his opposition used to vilify his agenda.

    We shouldn't teach our kids that Obama was a socialist, but we certainly should teach the "fact" that a ridiculous percentage of ignorant Americans believed it. This viewpoint, although moronic, will always remain relevant in the context of history. Otherwise how would you illustrate the battle that we had to endure leading up to the passage of HC reform?

    "The government has got into the hands of the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy." -- Woodrow Wilson

    by DickMacgurn on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 04:55:57 PM PDT

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    •  How symptomatic. (1+ / 0-)
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      Textbooks still teach that most people believed the Earth was flat.

      Cite?


      It's in every history textbook....

      No, it isn't.


      ...as it well should be.

      No, it shouldn't.


      Not because it was ever true, but because it was part of the reason that it took so long for explorers to try and sail to the ends of the Earth. It wasn't until around the time of Columbus that a growing minority of explorers were willing to test their new hypothesis.

      You seriously believe that?

      "Explorers" have widely known that the world was round since thousands of years before Columbus.


      You're a case in point of why your approach doesn't work. You, personally, have lost track of what's reality and what's bullshit myth. Spending time, energy, and material resources filling kids' heads with nonsense is somewhat less important than studying reality--something you'd do well to practice.

      •  Straight from my 14 year old's history book: (0+ / 0-)

        The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus, was published and mistaken by many for a scholarly work. In Book III, Chapter II of this biography, Irving gave a largely fictional account of the meetings of a commission established by the Spanish sovereigns to examine Columbus's proposals. One of his more fanciful embellishments was a highly unlikely tale that the more ignorant and bigoted members on the commission had raised scriptural objections to Columbus's assertions that the Earth was spherical.

        The flat Earth concept lives on in the history books because it demonstrates how ignorance often impedes scientific discovery and exploration.

        "The government has got into the hands of the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy." -- Woodrow Wilson

        by DickMacgurn on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 11:19:08 PM PDT

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        •  Whaa? (1+ / 0-)
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          You caught that Irving made the whole thing up, right?

          I.e., it's not actual history regarding Columbus?


          You think it's worthwhile to waste valuable educational time with this fictional nonsense? That's ridiculous. It leads to people--for example, you--saying silly things like "It wasn't until around the time of Columbus that a growing minority of explorers were willing to test their new hypothesis." When by "new" you meant "thousands of years old."

          You've openly confused reality with fiction, and you think this testifies in favor of teaching more such fiction in schools? Pull the other one.

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