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  •  You do not understand what a "theory" is in the (5+ / 0-)

    context of science.

    Science is an ongoing exploration of the real world--it's as if we are finding our way through a dark cave. Never, never,is anything "proven beyond the shadow of a doubt."

    Despite that, we still have solid knowledge. These other theories you talk about--relativity, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, etc., are all still theories--they are works in progress, having solid basis in proven fact but not complete, still being built upon. But the knowledge we have amassed about them enables us to run the modern world. Those PARTS of these theories are proven to the extent that we can make practical use of them.

    It is the same with evolution.

    There is a very large body of knowledge in evolution that is already proven. The entire theory, however, is still being explored and will continue to be.

    You can't just come in with some other "theory," call it Intelligent Design and expect it to have the same scientific credibility as evolution. That "theory" has not yet earned the right through hypothesis and experiment to be considered on the same level with the theory of evolution.

    In fact, intelligent design is currently on the same level with the "flying spaghetti monster" conjecture of our origins. --Just something a bunch of yahoos threw up against the wall out of ideologiecal conviction without even a slight thread of evidence, proof or coherence. And you seriously expect it to be considered on the same level as evolution?

    •  That's why I used the term "viewpoint" (1+ / 0-)
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      rather than theory.

      Some view points that we still discuss in textbooks:

      The Earth is flat.

      That viewpoint is still discussed because of its relevance to the struggle to bring to light the "Spherical Earth" theory which was later "proven beyond a shadow of a doubt."

      I disagree with your assertion:

      Science is an ongoing exploration of the real world--it's as if we are finding our way through a dark cave. Never, never,is anything "proven beyond the shadow of a doubt."

      There is no longer any doubt that the Solar system is "heliocentric". Not even among the Catholics who opposed it due to its Biblical contradictions. Even they have come around on that one.

      They're still coming around to the theory of "evolution". But ignoring the fact that a large portion of the population is still opposed to good science does less to expel the willful ignorance of creationism than exposing it for what it is.

      We should mention the debunked "viewpoint" of creationism in the same context that the textbooks currently discuss the debunked viewpoints of heliocentrism and the flat Earth.  

      "The Flying Spaghetti Monster" isn't relevant in teaching evolution in schools because:

      1. It wasn't the widely held belief for thousands of years whereas creationism was.
      1. It was invented only as a way of mocking creationism, and not as a serious belief.
      1. The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't currently a part of the textbook debate because it has no traditional roots or basis on any relevant literature.

      "The government has got into the hands of the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy." -- Woodrow Wilson

      by DickMacgurn on Sun Apr 04, 2010 at 05:44:11 PM PDT

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    •  Yay! I was wondering when someone was going (0+ / 0-)

      to mention the FSM!

      A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. -Greek proverb

      by marleycat on Mon Apr 05, 2010 at 06:04:25 AM PDT

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