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  •  Survey author's spinning. (2+ / 0-)
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    Larry Bailey, RenderQT

    Compare the emotional impact of

    45 % believe blacks are intelligent


    only 45 % believe blacks are intelligent

    "Do your taxpayers a favor, and leave him alone." (My State Assembly Rep, Marc Pocan, to Denver's City Atty before 2008 DNC)

    by ben masel on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 03:22:05 PM PDT

    •  Hi Ben:-) the "only" is justified for cases... (3+ / 0-)
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      ....where the number represents less than a majority, or less than an expected number.  In this case it probably signifies both: the latter part, that the author had reason to expect (perhaps by way of election results) that attitudes toward race would be more progressive than what was found in the survey.  

      We could reasonably expect from the 2008 elections, that more than 50% of Americans thought that black folks were intelligent, trustworthy, hardworking, whatever, because they voted for Obama for the highest office in the land.

      Counter to that, the exceptionalism that says "all (whatevers) are (whatever) except for my friend Bob who is different and better in (whatever way)."   That would seem to be relevant to the case at hand: some 5% or more of voters have bad attitudes about race but they voted for Obama for whatever reason that boiled down to "but he's an exception."  

      Anyway, the bottom line is that racism is still alive and kicking, so there's still plenty of work to do to bury it and make sure it can't come back from the grave.  

      •  Hmmm. These statistics were of white Americans (1+ / 0-)
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        who somewhat or strongly support the tea party movement, right? So that doesn't mean that more than half of all white Americans will acknowledge questioning the intelligence, hard work, or trustworthiness of black people.

        It does mean that 55% of 45% of the white Americans in this survey question black people's intelligence, and so on. Over half of the whites who somewhat or strongly support the teaparty movement. Which is quite bad enough, thank you just the same.

        Looking at the states chosen, though, I doubt that this can be taken as repreentative of all whites in the US. I hope not.  

      •  How many people in general (0+ / 0-)

        do you think are intelligent?

        Kind of a meaningless question. Intelligent by what standard?

        It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from man. --H.L. Mencken

        by denise b on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 01:27:24 AM PDT

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    •  ben, there's more than that which is troubling... (0+ / 0-)

      ...about this survey. I believe your instincts about it in this comment and elsewhere are correct.  See my supporting comment to the diarist's TJ, with the intro line of "CAUTION...".

      Learn more about second-class U.S. citizenship at

      by Larry Bailey on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 05:19:14 AM PDT

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