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  •  One important question (11+ / 0-)

    Did the poll ask whether TB's thought whites were intelligent or trustworthy?  The reason I ask is that we are assuming if such questions were asked that TBs would answer yes in very high percentages.  That is probably the case.  But, without that data, we really can't say that their answers to those questions with respect to African Americans and Latinos is disparate to their views of whites.

    Don't flame me - I think this is a vile finding.  I am just stating that from a purely statistical standpoint, we don't have the data to say that they view AA and Ls more negatively on these 2 issues than whites.

    •  So the question is (3+ / 0-)
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      are Teabaggers objective?  If the camera panned down in any of the interviews with them, you would see that they all wear clown shoes.

      Watch this space. -5.13/-3.38

      by Grannus on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 02:04:48 PM PDT

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    •  Thats only if we wanted a truly scientific poll (7+ / 0-)

      in which case, we wouldn't rely on a phone poll of 494 whites. The sample would have to be much larger, over a longer period of time, with additional controls thrown in. I don't think the purpose of the poll was to be that scientific. That said, I think it's a worthwhile endeavor. We may not be able to bet with 100% certainty that the numbers are absolutely on point, but I think we can say with absolute certainty that the teabaggers hold racist tendencies.

      The next question is, if you just did whites, not just white teabaggers, what would their racist tendencies be? Surely they'd be frightening, but I'm curious how much less racist the white non-teabagger population is from the white teabaggers. If the answer is, not much, then all we've established is that a lot of American whites have latent or overt racist tendencies. If the two numbers vary significantly, I think we can call teabaggery a de facto white supremacist movement.

      •  Good point. (3+ / 0-)
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        If we want data to establish that TBs skew more racist than the general population, we need the data on their views of white people and compare it to their views of AAs and Ls.  Then, we would then need to compare the white TBs views on those issues with the overall white population.

        It's also worth asking the same questions of non-white TBs and compare those findings to the larger overall population of people of color.

        What we might find is that TBs skew paranoid and insecure more than anything else.

      •  There are studies that have been conducted about (4+ / 0-)
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        racial attitudes in the US. A slew of them.

        Can get you some citations if you'd like.

        "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition" Bernice Johnson Reagon

        by Denise Oliver Velez on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 02:45:05 PM PDT

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        •  I posted awhile back on my FB page (3+ / 0-)
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          about a similar study: "Authoritarianism and Polarization in American Politics" by Marc Hetherington and Jonathan Weiler; published in 8/09 by Cambridge Univ. Press.

          Salient quote:

          "Among whites with above average racial resentment, only 19% favored fundamental health care reforms and 57% favored the present system. Among those with below average racial resentment, more than two times as many (45%) favored govt run health care and less than half as many (25%) favored the status quo. No such relationship between racial attitudes and opinions on health care existed in the mid-1990s during the Clinton effort."

          Note: I bolded the text for emphasis.

          "It's not enough to be right. You still have to use your nice voice." -said by my then six-year-old daughter; "Love binds us all."-willb48

          by be the change you seek on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 03:42:14 PM PDT

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      •  If the technique is weak, (0+ / 0-)

        why do you say it's worthwhile?

        "Do your taxpayers a favor, and leave him alone." (My State Assembly Rep, Marc Pocan, to Denver's City Atty before 2008 DNC)

        by ben masel on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 03:36:17 PM PDT

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    •  Absolutely right (0+ / 0-)

      This data is meaningless without the control questions.

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