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  •  Where's the data?T is a spun press release, (5+ / 0-)

    from someone who doesn't want to see the methodology subject to analysis.


    "Do your taxpayers a favor, and leave him alone." (My State Assembly Rep, Marc Pocan, to Denver's City Atty before 2008 DNC)

    by ben masel on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 03:29:33 PM PDT

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    •  there's some info at the link (4+ / 0-)

      Conducted by telephone from Feb. 8 to March 15, the survey reached 494 whites, 380 blacks, 77 Latinos and 64 members of other races. The sampling error margin is plus or minus 3.1 percentage points. The Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity, Race and Sexuality and the UW Department of Political Science paid for the survey. It was conducted by the UW's Center for Survey Research.

      -8.75, -8.21 - on the far left of the spectrum...

      by pacotrey on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 03:49:56 PM PDT

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      •  that's meaningless. i want to see the methodology (4+ / 0-)
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        and the analysis.

        otherwise, it's just another poll that'll be spun by all the pundits to serve their various narrow needs.

        •  They would hate our Democratic president (3+ / 0-)

          whether he was Gore, Kerry, or she was Hillary.
          That Obama is black is unquestionably icing on the 'hate cake' for a few of them, but the mere fact he is an (OMG) DEMOCRAT is enough for most of them to suit their venomous ends.
          I would like to see the methodology myself.

          •  let's not make any premature conclusions. (1+ / 0-)
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            there may be fatal flaws about the way the study was done.

            and besides, EVEN IF opposition to the president's-not-so-progressive-agenda is partly fueled by race-based prejudice, how does that affect how the progressives and democrats engage those dissenters?

            DO we engage them or write them off?

            how significant and influential are they?

            CAN they be won over?

            remember, the tea party is a heterogeneous group.

            what do we have in common with their members?  can we mobilize them to align with progressives in not only pushing obama to adopt more progressive policies, but also in combating the manipulative media masters such as Limbaugh and Beck and Palin?  if the tea baggers see that in fact they are being handled in a way that will ultimately go against their interests?

            •  I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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              I looked for the actual analysis, and so far there isn't any. My comment was just on the overall difference between "gut feelings" and actual studies with good methodology and solid conclusions based on data, i.e. "evidence-based medicine."

              It seems like there is always the "no shit, Sherlock" comments when studies come out about things that are understood to be true through conventional wisdom--why did we need a study to tell us that? everyone KNOWS it's true-- but that is not evidence-based. Which is why real studies based on solid methodologies are necessary. In this case, until the actual study with its methodology is published there is no way of deciding its merits or not.

              "No one has the right to spend their life without being offended." Philip Pullman

              by zaynabou on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 06:22:23 PM PDT

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    •  I would imagine (1+ / 0-)
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      That they are awaiting publication in a peer-reviewed journal and are taking advantage of the current political climate to get a little attention.  That does seem suspect, but not surprising in this day and age.  If their study does not get published, or if it turns out to be bogus in its methodology or analysis then shame on them for dealing in sensationalism.

      "When your heart skips a beat stay on your feet, don't throw that moment away!"--Rob Fetters, 'Fear is Never Boring'

      by BigOkie on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 04:02:13 PM PDT

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      •  Worse than suspect, it's propaganda, (1+ / 0-)
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        yet everyone here is lapping it up.

        "The biggest fool of all is the one who believes his own propaganda."-  Goebbels


        "Do your taxpayers a favor, and leave him alone." (My State Assembly Rep, Marc Pocan, to Denver's City Atty before 2008 DNC)

        by ben masel on Thu Apr 08, 2010 at 04:22:45 PM PDT

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