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  •  Doomsday Cult (0+ / 0-)

    So things weren't so bad for a scattered underground of people subjugated by the Roman Empire, who were "gnostics" so burned by organized religion that they had faith in only direct, unmediated connection to god? Whose gnosticism taught that life was nothing but a torture test for entry into some vaguely defined afterlife where they could finally find love? And their final official expression was John's Revelation, a nightmare vision of apocalypse born of a starvation bout in a damp cave.

    Sounds like a desperate bunch of miserable people. They're to be admired for deciding that "do unto others as you'd have them do unto you" was the rule to get through this vale of tears. But the rest of the package sounds pretty bad.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 06:30:27 AM PDT

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    •  I'm talking about the practices of the early (0+ / 0-)

      Church, as opposed to its later incarnations, where they weren't as embroiled in politics but were rather concentrating on the individual.

      The risk we take in opening our hearts to love, is learning to say goodbye.

      by Cali Scribe on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 03:01:55 PM PDT

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        I just described the practices of the early Church.

        And there was never a time when the followers of Jesus weren't embroiled in politics. The apostles were revolutionaries against Roman domination of Judea through its puppet Pharisees. Paul took that political fight to Rome, seeding secret resistance to Rome among all along the way, particularly Greeks. The Church in Rome helped undermine the old order until it gained the throne via Constantine's mother.

        The Church has always been political. It has always had severe defects in its view of the actual world. The only "good old days" is, as usual, in the imagination of people who came later than the romanticized (pun intended) past. But, as I also said, there have also always been some admirable qualities to the Church, or at least to the core faith of many of the people who make up the Church.

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Fri Apr 09, 2010 at 03:35:40 PM PDT

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