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  •  I have mixed feelings about this diary (2+ / 0-)
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    Many smaller farms are not only not organic or sustainable, they are probably just as bad as the large farms. The exemptions cited are based on size alone. And I'll add I have been very disappointed, overall, in the tenor at Daily Kos for issues of food and sustainability. As one example, there are posters here who pretend to be progressive and pretend to care about climate change but who mock and ridicule anyone who brings up the issue of livestock and eating red meat. Phony liberals of "convenience" only. Well, if they are phonies in one sphere, they may be phonies in another, so I'm not inclined to trust them simply because they are small. I personally need something else, akin to "organic certification," before I agree.

    •  Some farms can't afford that (5+ / 0-)

      I'm just putting this out there because it's the situation of a farm near me.  They spray as little as possible, but do encounter things like the tomato blight last year, so they feel it's necessary to use chemicals.  And they can't afford organic certification, even if they were organic, because it's tens of thousands of dollars to get.  They do sell organics from other farms and I support them as much as possible because they're an excellent farm, but they're not perfect.

    •  ??? let me tell you what happens when small (11+ / 0-)

      non organic farms go out of business. In some places, they revert to meadows or forests, but where they count most, near towns and cities, they get developed into suburban McMansions, townhouses and strip malls. We see a lot of that here in the northeast. You know what's more "unsustainable" than a non-organic farm? Any of the other developed uses.

      "While you're out there smashing the state, keep a smile on your lips and a song in your heart!" FFFreakbrothers

      by the fan man on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 12:03:10 PM PDT

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    •  some small farms may be rotten (0+ / 0-)

      you're right. But we don't have a lot of farmers left in this country and I think it's important to support the ones we've got so they can keep farming and THEN support them to have better farming techniques.

      I wrote a book! You should buy it!

      by Jill Richardson on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 03:18:17 PM PDT

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      •  I've found more customers adjust to growers (4+ / 0-)
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        use of chemicals by talking directly to them in farmers markets. Customers have great misconceptions about pesticide use, growers set them straight about their techniques. Most don't use all that much and only when necessary.

        "While you're out there smashing the state, keep a smile on your lips and a song in your heart!" FFFreakbrothers

        by the fan man on Thu Apr 15, 2010 at 04:39:59 PM PDT

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