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  •  Pro AHIP-Care Patty Murray T.V. Ads in Seattle (10+ / 0-)

    are running on the local news outlets most nights.

    since I have the news on from about 4:30 to 7:00 and I jump channels randomly, I'm not exactly sure if the ads are only the nbc or cbs or abc affiliate - BUT - I 've been hearing them for weeks.

    the ads say how - I paraphrase -

    some 91,000 small businesses will get tax credits,

    some 159,000 seniors will get medicare drug help,

    'every washingtonian can get quality affordable care'

    WHERE were ads when joe and stu-pid-pak and max and conrad and olympia were stacking the decks for AHIP care and making sure medicare didn't expanded / there was a public option?

    aside from my belief that the last claim is a complete fucking lie,

    WHERE were ads pushing for job programs instead of AIG-care?

    I live in seattle, I ain't voting for 1 state or federal dem-o-shit incumbent this year.


    Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

    by seabos84 on Sun May 02, 2010 at 06:59:46 AM PDT

    •  Murray voted for Roberts (3+ / 0-)
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      don't think I can ever forgive that
      (at least Obama didn't)

      "We heard their ideas, and they stink." Hal Sparks

      by lisastar on Sun May 02, 2010 at 08:44:40 AM PDT

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      •  the worst? Do any of you know how Patty got her (7+ / 0-)

        start, as a US Senator from WA State?

        In her early races, Patty Murray campaigned as the proverbial "mom in tennis shoes" - the forerunner to the appelation: Soccer Mom.

        She had been told, by a legislator in the early 1980s, that she couldn't make a difference because she was "just a mom in tennis shoes", when she was teaching in a preschool program that was at risk for budget cuts.

        Patty went on to organize 13,000 parents to save the preschool program, to serve on her local school board and then as a WA State Senator - and finally, in 1992 she defeated a powerful Republican congressman for the US Senate seat.

        Patty was also one of only 23 US Senators to vote against the AUMF (authorization to use military force) resolution, giving President Bush Congressional approval to invade Iraq in March of 2003.


        Even I, who has voted for Patty Murray each time she was on a ballot in front of me, even I am having problems being supportive of my Senator.

        Voting for Roberts? I didn't like it, but honestly, I think that I would have voted Aye for him. No one can tell the future, and no one knows just how a SCOTUS Justice will vote, either for the near or far future, on any particular case. Justice Stevens is a good example, nominated by Nixon, a republican president, ended up the most liberal of the SCOTUS jurists by the end of his term. Who could tell that's how it would end up?

        But as a responsive Senator? From personal experience, calling her staffers for the past couple of years - and watching her fail to take a stand, up front, on any issue - waffling and waiting for the mainstream polls to come out before she will tell her constituents how she plans to vote on anything?  That is not the bahavior of a politician that I want to continue to support.

        Patty Murray began her politcal career as 'just a mom in tennis shoes', but she has definitely become part of the Establishment.

        For me, that is the standard that we should live by, here in These United States.

        When a they stay in office so long that they become the title that they hold ... it's too long.

        •  I voted FOR Patty in '92 when I was 32 and (2+ / 0-)
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          back then I'd vote for any female - well, except a phylis schafley type -

          I figured they were gonna need some time to figure out how the game was played in order to make the game work for them - I did NOT think I was just getting a female version of a shitty male politician.

          oh well - Clinton used his understanding of coming up with nothing to connect with those with nothing, and then sold 'em out. Barack has a different outsider experience, as does Patty. NONE of them are 12th generation harvard harvard, and ALL have been HUGE disappointments.

          She voted for f'king bernanke, she voted to kill drug importation, she NEVER fillibustered any asshole shit I cared about (how come the bad guys always fillisbuster us, and we don't do it to them?), she joined the gang up on acorn -

          to hell with her.

          I don't give a frack who is running against her, I will NOT vote for her, OR check her name off cuz of lesser of two evil crap.


          Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

          by seabos84 on Sun May 02, 2010 at 03:33:30 PM PDT

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        •  Patty Murry seems to lack leadership skills (1+ / 0-)
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          A real leader doesn't need to take the middle of the "safe" road.They take lemons and make lemonade.Its risky but its worthwhile.We don't have too many of those in Congress today.

          There is so much triangulation going on its difficult to know why some of the Senators vote for the things they do.They start off as statesmen with a purpose and become politicians trying to game the system to stay in office. I think they rationalize they must compromise their principles so that they can stay around and do something great but does it really work that way? In the end you just become a sell-out.

          Cynicism leads to Inactivity. Hope leads to Action.

          by Citizenpower on Sun May 02, 2010 at 09:06:38 PM PDT

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