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  •  I hear you, but -- (4+ / 0-)

    There is something precise and useful about The Fundamentalism Project and its examination of parallels between certain cultural/theological groups around the world.

    I mean, I could write a diary titled "I am a conservative" and attempt to reclaim the word via my dedication to environmental conservation...

    But to what end?  Language wants to be convenient for groups of people, and so "fundamentalist" has become contemporary shorthand for a certain group of theological and authoritarian characteristics.  

    •  that they want it so does not make it so (5+ / 0-)

      nor should we surrender the ground.

      That is what happened with the word 'liberal' a few decades back - too many people walked away from it

      who gives the like of Frank Luntz and those of his ilk the right to define what words mean?

      do we still have a Republic and a Constitution if our elected officials will not stand up for them on our behalf?

      by teacherken on Wed May 05, 2010 at 03:16:56 AM PDT

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      •  the people who listen to him/them. nt (2+ / 0-)
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        TrueBlueMajority, Susan G in MN

        We need another Huey P. Long and federal funding for abortion. -9.00, -4.05

        by KVoimakas on Wed May 05, 2010 at 03:18:45 AM PDT

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        •  People listen to (2+ / 0-)
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          all kins of crap, it doesn't mean that it is so. This is why it was written. Unalienable rights means that these are the law. It's the foundation of our system the bulwark which draws the line against abusive power and tyranny. We are a nation of Laws not men...      

      •  who is "they"? I'm going with the dictionary (2+ / 0-)
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        here, not Frank Luntz and whoever the "ilk" you refer to.

        [fuhn-duh-men-tl-iz-uhm] Show IPA
        (sometimes initial capital letter) a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.
        the beliefs held by those in this movement.
        strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles: the fundamentalism of the extreme conservatives.

        So yes, definition #3 is more broad, but definition #1 is so widely understood that definition #3 is usually used in a context where theology is involved, if not predominant.  

        I guess I'm a bit puzzled by this diary, Ken.... it seems to me as though you believe you are "reclaiming" a term that was never taken away from you in the first place.  As if there is a "they" who took a good word away from us, as happened (I agree) with "liberal."

        The term "fundamentalism" has always had a predominantly theological definition.  Specifically,  it represents a squaring off against modern/contemporary interpretation or revision of scripture and theology.

      •  The Constitution? (1+ / 0-)
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        who gives the like of Frank Luntz and those of his ilk the right to define what words mean?

        You made me chuckle. (As fundamentalists, are we allowed to do that?)

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