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  •  What's interesting to me ... (4.00)
    Is how America Blog exactly retraces the steps we took ourselves in piecing it all together.

    The domain addresses, the WhoIs checks, the corporations ... and he verifies everything, just as we did, in the same order we did.

    And came to the exact same conclusions.

    And later tonight, folks, I want to put up a diary to tell everyone to just chill out. It's clear we're on to some type of skullduggery, and if we all get caught up in bashing Kurtz and NPR and Blitzer, worried about how we're appearing or coming across ... the game is up.

    It's been a fantastic 48 hours that I can't even begin to process yet. But there's a lot more to this and we can't let ourselves get distracted by media coverage or by making ourselves nuts with paranoia about what the right-wing will throw at us.

    •  Olbermann (none)
      might talk to you.  Wanna give it a try?
    •  Gentle Disagreement (3.75)
      Sorry, but it still does matter what Kurtz and Blitzer say.

      We could have documented proof that Gannon was actually Bush's nephew with photos of them at the family picnic at Kennebunkport, but if the masses don't hear about it, it doesn't exist.

      It shouldn't change our focus, but honestly I am a bit disappointed in the hackery of Blitzer and Kurtz. This should have been a tailor made story for them. "Gannon" is a nobody. It would have been easy for them to actually report the facts without protecting one of their cocktail party circuit friends. It's discouraging. Keep up the good work though. Hopefully Olberman, Stewart, etc will pick this up and force the MSM to pick up the ball.

      •  Blaster (3.75)
        Blitzer is so far up Rumsfeld's ass you can see his glasses when Rummy talks.

        Why do you think they "broke" this story?

        This was a preemptive strike, put the baby to bed.

      •  Oh, of course, it matters (4.00)
        But it's something we can't control. And really, what did we expect? Exactly this.

        Put it this way: If they were doing their job in the first place, would more than a hundred people have gotten together here to spend more than a thousand hours researching for no pay?

        Obviously not.

        So why should we be surprised at the "liberal blogs have gone too far" meme? Totally expected, in my opinion.

        The fact is, we cannot control how they spin this. All we can control is our own levels of doggedness and concentration, and I think that's what we need to keep in mind.

    •  Will this next diary... (none)
      ...give direction on new areas of inquiry?  My google finger is itching.  ;-)

      Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

      by Barbara Morrill on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 03:44:53 PM PST

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    •  Yeah (3.66)
      Let's not worry about the Swift Boaters.
      Let's not worry about the Rather-smearers.

      Let's not worry about any of what the RWCM will do to the story before the truth is really out there.

      The point isnt about being paranoid of them, it's about them spinning it into oblivion so that any further discoveries are buried on page A-23 with a 3 line blurb since it's already been covered in the gay republican resigned aspect.

      I know what you're saying but think about what I'm saying here as well.   We can't control the media so in a way its pointless to harp on it nonstop but on the other hand there needs to be a counterpoint to waht they ARE doing so as to preserve the path for the story to continue as one with credibility down the line.

      my .02

      Orwell is spinning in his grave

      by tlh lib on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 03:45:43 PM PST

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    •  oh, c'mon Susan! (none)
      I like being nuts! You party pooper, you!

      "I have lived with several Zen masters -- all of them cats." - Eckhart Tolle

      by catnip on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 03:47:45 PM PST

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    •  Thank You (none)
      Stay the Course!
    •  Remember how long Watergate took. (4.00)
      Years and years. Years and years of investigations, of the President's men pooh-poohing the story, of guys like Novak and Safire explaining why it didn't matter and was just a horrible scheme of the evil Liberals.

      They told us we were paranoid.
      They told us there was no proof.
      They told us we were hung up on conspiracy theories.
      They told us that the White House could never, ever be involved.

      It may be the internet age, but the process of investigating, tedious and patience-trying as it is, has to continue, even when all the hacks in the world blow you off.

    •  Have you done any FOIA requests for his press app? (none)
      •  It's assigned (none)
        Don't know what stage we're in with it, but it's in the works.

        We're also FOIA'ing his FOIA on Daschle.

        We have scads of FOIA requests in some stage of development. A whole research team is doing nothing but that.

      •  NPR's David Folkenflik asked him about it (none)
        He said that the congressional press credential application indicated that Gannon had applied as "James Guckert."

        JG and he danced around the pseudonym issue for quite a while. Gannon/Guckert got kinda pissy about Folkenflik knowing what was on his application and said that the congressional folks had violated the privacy clause of the application process, and that he would make sure they answered for it.

        Very entertaining and well worth the listen.

        Proud member of SusanG's pirate crew, arr!

        by marisa on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 06:27:20 PM PST

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    •  One of these things is not like the other (none)
      The NPR interview does not belong with Kurtz & Blitzer. It was probing and yet fair.

      Gannon expressed more bitterness against the Senate and Congressional Press Galleries for not giving him credentials than he did about the blogs.

      To thine own self be true - W.S.

      by Agathena on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 04:46:54 PM PST

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    •  Cool! (none)
      Absolutely, and thanks for keeping this grounded and level headed (as much as possible ;)

      That's the Way of the Reality-Based Community!

      We have always been at war with Eurasia

      by NotSoFast on Wed Feb 09, 2005 at 05:47:11 PM PST

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