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  •  Because Dems are often very cautious until... (0+ / 0-)

    ...the more conservative and moderate among them become convinced, after 30 years of our nation moving to the right, that that time is over. That the neocon experiment failed. Have you forgotten that the right-leaning DLC helped elect most of those in congress? They need to learn something new, to know in their bones that there is no Third Way in politics. That the center ALWAYS is a moving target and either it moves left or right. Period.

    Which, by the way, is the high road. The liberal high road of basing your politics on sharing with your neighbors, not the low road of conservative politics which is "What do I get out of it?" The low road has been more traveled throughout human history. We're trying to change that.

    Indeed, if we pull off the 25% probability hail Mary pass, you MUST then tell them that is the deal: they are still in the drivers seat, turn sharply to the left. Finish the work they started in 2008. If we keep losses below the expected threshold you must do this as well to continue the momentum we've built over the last 4 years.

    We need to see a GOP with some moderates taking power in 2012 and pushing the neocon ideology of wealth first out of the way. Who knows, perhaps 10 years hence we'd start seeing the first liberal Republicans. But it won't happen sooner if the conservatives win big. It will start happening if they are at least marginalized. And it will happen in a VERY big way sooner if there is an upset.

    •  Because Dems are often very cautious (0+ / 0-)

      "We need to see a GOP with some moderates taking power in 2012" - Whew!!! If you believe that will happen, you are the very definition of an optimist!!!!!!!!! The leaders of the party want to take over so they can impeach a sitting president who won with an overwhelming majority!!!!! They say that out loud and in public - and you are looking for moderates taking power? Truly, you see the glass as half full and not half empty! I envy your optimism!!! That is not snark - that is a fact!!

      •  The GOP has been breaking in half for years (0+ / 0-)

        They are caught between ineffectiveness and putting candidates in office that will eventually be far more effective. How long before the big business / evangelical crazy coalition collapses? How long can  tea-party irrationalization go before grade school children can point out their fallacies?  

        Unless they wind up subjecting this country under a neo-facsist dictatorship, sooner or later the only way they will stay in touch with people will be for the moderates to start assuming important leadership positions.

        They can't keep moving away from the center over time and stay relevant. Either that or they have to continue to drag the center with them and frankly there are too many liberals in this country to allow that to continue after a time. This is not idealism, it's simply the way things work. They are getting too far right to simply govern with any effectiveness. The Neocons are at a dangerous tipping point despite their widespread influence. It will continue to fail and barring a dictatorship eventually the losses will mount to where they are unsustainable.

        •  Whoops. I screwed up the first sentence (0+ / 0-)

          They are caught between ineffectiveness and putting candidates in office that will eventually be far more INEFFECTIVENESS.

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