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  •  A little clearer to me now... (4.00)
    Tell me if I have it right: Ali's family filed a habeas lawsuit before Judge Bates in D.C. District Court.  Last December, Bates refused to dismiss the lawsuit over the strenuous objection of the DOJ.  Then, the DOJ advanced these ex parte "secret evidence/secret arguments" theories, which Bates seems to (fortunately) hold a dim view of.  So, it seems DOJ would have been forced to produce Ali or respond to some questions about his whereabouts, wellbeing, the procedures under which he was detained, etc... in the near future.

    Then, today, Ali shows up in the Eastern District of Virginia.  This is in the 4th Circuit, which is where the Rumsfeld/DOJ transferred Jose Padilla after Judge Mukasey ruled he was entitled to a lawyer (among other protections.)  The Supreme Court blessed the Padilla forum shopping transfer without ruling on the constitutionality of his detention.  As you probably know, the 4th Circuit is regarded as one of the most conservative in the nation.  

    Very interesting civil liberties case.  One that we all should be watching.  Where's the ACLU on this one?

    •  Thanks, Max! (none)
      Great summary.  It'd be great if you could diary the legal aspects as they develop -- you have the expertise.

      I searched the ACLU site and could find nothing.  But several attorneys have been on this, and so have human rights groups -- I have a quote above that refers to "Human Rights USA, a group assisting Abu Ali's family with its petition."  You know, the other day -- for a different diary -- I tried to find a link to this group but couldn't.  Might you know?

      Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

      by SusanHu on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 06:15:26 PM PST

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    •  Max, here's more (none)
      "The following is a sequence of events in the ground-breaking lawsuit filed by the World Organization for Human Rights USA and the family of Ahmed Abu Ali in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia challenging the US government's detention of a US citizen in Saudi Arabia. ..."

      ... from Human Rights USA  And I finally found the Web site for this group.  

      Susan in Port Angeles (my cat)

      by SusanHu on Tue Feb 22, 2005 at 07:32:41 PM PST

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      •  Wow..great stuff, Susan! (none)
        Website gives a wonderful summary of the disposition of the case.  

        Interesting footnote...Judge Bates was appointed by none other than.....

        ....G.W. Bush.

        I think the intersection of the law, the war, the media and the exigencies of Administration propaganda in this case is fascinating.  I will work on some legal analysis and consult with some friends about predictions for likely resolution.  

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