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  •  The three to target (13+ / 0-)

    I would target just three.  Darling who won by less than 2000 votes, Hopper who won by less than 200 votes and Kapanke who won by just 2500 votes.

    •  Hell no (3+ / 0-)
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      PeterHug, LordMike, Sychotic1

      Target all of them. Special elections are often low-turnout, and very big surprises can result. Aim for all eight and leave open the possibility that one of the 'unwinnable' seats might flip. Concentrate resources on the top three, yes, but try to get all eight subjected to the recall anyhow.

      NH4JL DIT '04, NHDP DIT '08!

      by realnrh on Fri Feb 18, 2011 at 09:40:05 PM PST

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      •  I've got to disagree (0+ / 0-)

        Only three can reasonably be considered vulnerable - Grothman won with 75% of the vote, 3 ran unopposed - we're not going to win those. Harsdorf came in at 56% but remember this was 2008 - a good year for Dems.

        We want to fight the battles we'll win. Recalls are HARD - they take time, organization, and money. Don't spread it too thin on people who are out of reach.

        •  I think you're right (1+ / 0-)
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          Every recall will be a huge effort. There will need to be money (lots) for lawyers to defend against all the opposition's challenges and appeals. There is so much more to this than just collecting signatures. And no one should forget that even if a senator is recalled, there will be an election a few weeks later in which that senator can try to be reinstated. We will have to work incredibly hard for whoever runs for our side in the election (probably in the summer of 2011). The Republicans will throw millions into a campaign to discredit our candidate and boost their own.

    •  We are going to target all of them (5+ / 0-)
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      irmaly, PeterHug, Sychotic1, elwior, litoralis

      If the Republican Senators vote for this bill, we will go after them. It has been brought up at the Capitol protest and the response has been tremendous.

      "We are slow to realize that democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle." ~ "Fighting Bob" - Robert M. LaFollette Sr.

      by Sand Hill Crane on Fri Feb 18, 2011 at 11:10:47 PM PST

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    •  To target or to attack on all fronts ? (1+ / 0-)
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      This is a tactical decision that may not have to be taken immediately.  Both positions have merit.  Recalls are hard, but special elections are often won on momentum and enthusiasm.  And, while winning three is key, there is certainly a value to mounting challenges in many districts - for PR value as well as keeping the Rethugs on the defensive.  

      It's ultimately about resources.  

      Local feet on the street are not as fungible as donor resources and legal talent.  Perhaps one way forward would be to encourage activists in all 8 districts to launch recall petitions.  Allocation of central resources for the petition drives (which may or may not be necessary) can reward success as measured by interim benchmarks- with a presumption that at all costs the 3-4 weakest R's will face recall - which probably means setting signature targets in those districts well above the minimum needed and making sure that they are met.

      One key factual question, which I think was asked before but not answered, is what the restrictions on petition circulators are in Wisconsin. In some states (VA, for example) various kind of petitions have to be circulated by residents of the relevant district.  If Wisconsin is similar, that would be one more argument for supporting grass-roots movements in all 8 districts.  

      After the end of the petition stage, well, then the arguments for concentrating monetary, legal, and activist resources on the places where the R's are most vulnerable makes a great deal of sense.  

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