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  •  Olsen could also be vulnerable (6+ / 0-)

    Luther Olsen's district is actually pretty much a swing district, however Olsen has never faced opposition because he is known as a moderate.  If he votes for this bill, obviously that changes.  

    Also, it would actually make more sense to recall some of the senators who just won in 2010 (after January 2012 of course), and leave the ones who are already up in 2012 alone.  This gives you more targets.  

    •  The problem with going after the 2010 class is (2+ / 0-)

      two-fold. First, you have the same issue you have with Walker himself -- the year waiting period.  Second, you lose the chance to do this this year and get control now, which would have the effect of (a) killing the bill and (b) helping Dems with redistricting.  Better to go now than to wait, in my opinion.

      The info on Olsen is helpful; I'm no expert on WI state politics. Thanks.

      •  Here's why I'm thinking about 2010 class (0+ / 0-)

        Republicans are planning on introducing some constitutional amendments on tax increases.  They would need to be passed by two consecutive sessions of the legislature.  

        Obviously, if Dems take back the Senate in 2012, that kills those constitutional amendments.  That's why I would be in favor of also going after the 2010 class.  

        At this point, I am pretty much taking for granted that the union bill is pretty much going to pass eventually, so I am really thinking more about making sure that bad policies can be undone.  

        •  That's where my argument about (2+ / 0-)

          redistricting comes into play. If you let the GOP continue to control the legislature, you will be playing on a far more uneven playing field in 2012.  That's not to say that there isn't merit in the thought of a 2010 class recall effort -- there is -- but recall now gets you control now and makes it easier to maintain it.  Postponing any effort into next year means that you will not only ensure that the bill passes eventually, but that the GOP will redraw the House and Senate districts.  

      •  I don't think you will be able to recall in time.. (0+ / 0-) kill this thing.  Remember that the teabaggers will be trying to recall our guys, too, and if this standoff lasts 4 months (the time it takes to do this), then the Dem Senators may not be looking so rosy holding up the state's business.


        by LordMike on Sat Feb 19, 2011 at 10:25:12 PM PST

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        •  Rethink this (1+ / 0-)
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          Fear Mike, fear is what motivates if they know there is a very real possibility they will have to re-campaign and likely lose, votes will change. It's self preservation

          Try not to let your mind wander... It's too small and fragile to be out by itself.

          by mjcc1987 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 at 05:03:06 PM PST

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    •  We will be going after Olsen (6+ / 0-)

      Someone in my township ran into him yesterday morning at the Capitol and asked about the vote. Olsen said "WE GOT the VOTES." It was quite clear how Olsen was going to vote in the Finance committee.

      Olsen's office staff had previously said he was undecided. but I think that was just to keep the heat off of him. Olsen himself was never available.

      "We are slow to realize that democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle." ~ "Fighting Bob" - Robert M. LaFollette Sr.

      by Sand Hill Crane on Fri Feb 18, 2011 at 11:29:03 PM PST

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    •  Now (0+ / 0-)

      Can't wait a year. Now!

      Try not to let your mind wander... It's too small and fragile to be out by itself.

      by mjcc1987 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 at 04:59:31 PM PST

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