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View Diary: An interview with California Secretary of State Debra Bowen (92 comments)

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  •  At the Democrats for Israel debate in Hermosa (0+ / 0-)

    at which I was present, Bowen said, backpedaling in response to a challenge to the "Israel can do no wrong" pledge Hahn goaded her into signing, that Israel should be criticized, like we would our children. That trivializes the life and death struggle going on in that region, and the harm being done to all stakeholders there.  She also patted Winograd and her supporters patronizingly on the head, saying that if all people were like them, we would not need to go to war, but that the reality is that there is evil in the world.  Thank you for clarifying that subtlety, Ms. SoS.

    Of course, the problem with the pledge is that there are (at least) two sides to the I/P conflict, and the pledge only acknowledges one, which was why Bowen should be called on it.   I do not have, and could not find online, a transcript of that debate.  If you have one or a link to one, please provide it.  

    •  I was there. Bowen gave nuanced, intelligent (2+ / 0-)
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      answers to the questions put to her,  it just happened to be answers Stuyvesant may not have wanted to hear.

    •  We talking about different pledges there. . . (1+ / 0-)
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      Stuyvesant,

      I/P pledge was something that I wish Debra did not do, but she did I understand the political reasons for it.  But you completely mischaracterize it when you say it is the "Israel can do no wrong" pledge.  That is hardly the tone of the I/P pledge.  As for the Afghanistan pledge, I said my piece above.  

      Neither her signing one nor her not signing another is a mark of her condenscension (sp?).  Finally, I do not have the transcript either, but I listened to the event and read various accounts and none of them have the quotes you are saying she made.

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