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  •  "Bad form" is hardly the charge against Obama here (5+ / 0-)

    Try "Sealing the Neocon Coup" and "Shredding the Constitution," for starters.

    Anyone who sees this as less than a continuation of what the Worst President in History began is being willfully obtuse and in total denial.  Here, do this thought experiment: What if someone as Manichean as Bush/Cheney were to succeed Obama?   What calamaties would they bring upon us, in mere months?

    Hey, maybe the GOP isn't mounting a decent Presidential challenge this year because they know they could never pull shit like this off if they were in the driver's seat.  

    "Faced with what is right, to leave it undone shows a lack of courage." - Confucius -/- "Yeah, well, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi

    by nailbender on Tue May 31, 2011 at 08:26:27 PM PDT

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    •  In a way this is the Teahadists fault (4+ / 0-)
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      Let's say you're right and Obama is pushing the limits of the "unitary executive". He'd have to know he can get away with it because anyone the Republicans run against him in '12 is going to be a loser out of the gate.

      And if he's just playing politics to defuse their "Obama is weak on terror" meme this combined with taking down OBL pretty much blow it out of the water.

      And I wanted to say something a lot worse than "bad form" but realized it would probably be better left unsaid. You want to know what's really sad/scary? This story has been on the FP for an hour and gotten like 30 comments.

      I bet if the President was shredding the 2nd there would be 300 comments in 15 minutes. Shredding the 4th? I guess that doesn't rate.

      As soon as you have people telling other people how to live/think/behave because "god gave them authority" you effectively get dictators in funny looking hats.

      by ontheleftcoast on Tue May 31, 2011 at 08:38:07 PM PDT

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      •  there wasn't a (0+ / 0-)

        hardly a peep here about the renewal of the Patriot Act and Harry's procedural trick to keep amendments off the floor.  I found one diary with about 10 rec's.  The ACLU has been aware and talking about the Administration's pushing the executive power and state secrets from the beginning until now. Like Assange says this administration is writing new law through reinterpretation of old ones. No 'real Democrat's' should mention or make a fuss as it 'could be worse' if the right wing lunatic's waiting in the wings win. Power ceded and normalized, legalized and pushed with no checks. Scary stuff.      

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