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  •  I am right behind you (2+ / 0-)
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    txdemfem, Zack from the SFV

    I've suffered with them since puberty.  Mine involve cloudy vision, light sensitivity, and vomiting/retching.  They are triggered by weather (I too should be a meteorologist... its like having a bunion or your own live in Weatherdude).  I have one the day before my period, without fail.  Certain foods, lack of sleep, and stress can all trigger.

    I'm on mulitple meds but some break through - they are far less frequent and less severe on the meds, but they are still there.  Nasal zomig helps, but since I vomit so much, nothing taken orally usually helps.

    In a nonprofessional capacity, i suffered through my sister's wedding with one, spending most of the night vomiting in the bathroom.  Was I still physically present?  Yes.  Was I functional?  No.. I don't remember most of it.

    I'm an attorney and it definately effects my practice.  You have to take into account that on any given day, you could just be incapacitated.  Your clients and collegues are inconvenienced but you learn your coping mechanism.  I will be honest though, I'm not sure those coping mechanisms work if your the president of the United States, as I do honestly believe there are times when I am utterly incapacitated.

    But everyone's migraines are different, and can be managed differently.  So the mere fact of migraines isn't sufficient to disqualify someone (including Obama, Lenny, before you post) but the severity, triggers and treatment need to be evaulated to determine whether someone is incapacitated frequently enough and severely enough that there is a high likelihood that they could be incapacitated at a time when mental clarity is critical.

    •  then since there's no evidence from anybody that (0+ / 0-)

      her migraines are effecting her mental capacity (such as it is), then it would seem to be a non-issue.

      So what is it we are waving our arms about?

      Since migraines are nonpartisan, I assume there are probably just as many Dems in Congress with migraines as there are Repugs.  Why aren't we asking them to all be evaluated, as well? Other, I mean, than the fact that we like one party and not the other?

      •  There does seem to be some anecdotal (0+ / 0-)

        evidence that she is incapacitated from her staffers, off the record, of course, so it needs to be confirmed. But if it proves to be bad enough that she has to retire to a dark room with no lights and no sound, she's pretty much incapacitated by them in my book. If she's missed votes in the House because of them, she's incapacitated.

        We'll have to see what proof emerges. But this isn't going away, so  we're going to find out.

        "The white race is the domineering race, which is why I'm voting for McClain." Anonymous voter on NPR

        by txdemfem on Wed Jul 20, 2011 at 12:49:24 PM PDT

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        •  nonsense (0+ / 0-)

          People in Congress get sick.  They miss votes.  We don't impeach them for it. Heck, if we kicked out everyone in Congress who misses votes, there'd be no one left.

          Certainly no one in Congress is more "incapacitated" than Gabby Giffords.  Do you advocate her impeachment?

          •  No one is talking about impeaching anyone. (0+ / 0-)

            The wolfpack eats venison. The lone wolf eats mice.

            by A Citizen on Wed Jul 20, 2011 at 02:06:10 PM PDT

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          •  I will reply to this (0+ / 0-)

            although you could dial it down a little. If it is determined after rehabilitation that Gabby Giffords cannot fulfill the responsibilities of her office, I would expect her to step down.

            The only person talking about impeachment on this site is you.

            "The white race is the domineering race, which is why I'm voting for McClain." Anonymous voter on NPR

            by txdemfem on Wed Jul 20, 2011 at 03:27:08 PM PDT

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      •  I do think that there is a difference (3+ / 0-)
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        txdemfem, jennyp, Hawkjt

        First of all, I don't know that her migraines aren't effecting her mental capacity.  From the press reports, they sounds like mine, and mine most certainly affect my mental capacity.  You certainly don't want me practicing law actively in the midst of one.

        So is it a legitimate line of inquiry - yes.  Is it an automatic disqualified - no.

        Whare aren't we evaluating everyone?  There is one President... and he is the one who is responsible for war, negotiating with foreign countries, etc.   He (or she) would be the one to respond in a time of crisis.  I'm hard pressed to think of a time when a single Congressperson or Senator would be in a position where they were so critical to an ongoing crisis that it would be very difficult to excuse yourself for 48 hours.   Maybe Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi for the Dems - the higher up you get in leadership, the more indispensible you become at the time of crisis, the more important it becomes to look at whether there is anything that could inhibit you performing that duty.  So as we asked about Dick Cheney's heart or Bob Dole's health or whatever, so it is legitimate to get a clean bill of health from any potential president.

        The fact of the matter is that right now, Michelle Bachmann isn't really indispensible to anyone or thing other than her own ego and a handful of strange folks who wear Minnie Pearl hats with Lipton teabags rather than prices.   Really, I welcome her disappearing for 48 hours at a time.

        •  and yet another hypocrite (0+ / 0-)

          If Obama were the target of a smear campaign using a hatchet piece with unnamed uncited sources, declaring that he had this or that which incapacitated him, would you be singing the same tune?  Or would you be waving your arms and asking everyone to not jump to conclusions?

          I smell a big whopping double standard.

          If you have doctor reports indicating that her migraines are making it impossible for her to do her job, let's see 'em.  Otherwise all you got are anonymous stories from a smear campaign.

          We're supposed to be better than that.

          •  Thanks for the Smear. (1+ / 0-)
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            Hawkjt

            I think she's admitted she gets them.  In addition, I presidential candidates actually have doctors reports that are released so that we will know soon enough.

            I think I was pretty clear in saying we don't know the facts and I would reserve judgment until a medical professioanl, as I would in the case of any individual with any medical condition.

            If her migraines consist of one or two a year and she takes a couple of excederin migraines and she's good to go, then this story is over.

            If, like a woman I know, her migraines are twice a week and require her to go to a hospital for shots and stay overnight, then its a bigger issues.

            I don't know and neither do you.  But having a medical condition that COULD effect your ability to serve as president will need to be vetted at some point, and not that I'm concern trolling here for the Republicans, wouldnt you want to know before you nominated her?

            •  by the way (0+ / 0-)

              per the front page article, her headaches are "infrequent" and don't require daily meds -- mine do.... and respond to as needed meds -- mine don't always... so she's likely in a less severe boat than mine.

              To be fair... lest I be called a hypocrite.

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