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Two days ago, I mentioned that Rick Joyner, a prominent leader of the New Apostolic Reformation, the out-and-out fascist offshoot of the religious right that believes it can bring about the Second Coming by taking over the world, hosted a post-election "webinar" with another NAR leader, Bob Jones.  In it, Joyner and Jones actually laughed about the damage wrought by Hurricane Sandy because in their view, it's divine punishment for the East Coast voting in gay marriage.  When I found out about this video via People for the American Way's Right Wing Watch, I was actually getting ready to watch the whole thing in hopes of getting the full context.  However, after watching the PFAW clip and seeing Jones and Joyner laughing at the suffering wrought by Sandy--especially when so many people are STILL in the dark--I felt it was so outrageous that I felt I had to post immediately.  

As sick and twisted as that was, it wasn't the most revealing part of the video as a whole, which lasts for over an hour (PFAW only got about a minute and a half clip).  Not by a longshot.  If I heard right, Joyner and Jones seem to have convinced themselves that they can get President Obama to help them fulfill their ambition of taking over the world and cleansing it of all "evildoers"--i. e., those who dare to oppose them--so Jesus can come back and they can hand the world over to him.

About 50 minutes in, Joyner suggests that Obama could potentially receive a "revelation" that could "turn him around."  If that were to happen, he could "do things Romney could not do."  I know that suggestion generated a lot of belly laughs.  After all, the NAR's agenda could not be more antithetical to what we as Democrats stand for.  But then I discovered that there's at least one Democratic elected official who has NAR ties--Kimberly Daniels, an at-large city councilwoman in Jacksonville.  She's the "apostle" of an NAR church in Jacksonville, and is a real piece of work.  Among other things, she thinks that Halloween candy is infected with demons and claims to have cast out "demons" of homosexuality and witchcraft.

When I heard this, I initially thought that it didn't track.  After all, just a few minutes earlier in the same video, Joyner declared that Obama was, in biblical terms, a "wicked man" and that the nation "sided with wickedness" by giving Obama a second term.  Also, in his pre-Election Day sermon to his flock at MorningStar Fellowship Church in Fort Mill, South Carolina (20 minutes south of me--gag); Joyner declared that anyone who thinks Obama is a Christian is kidding himself, and that he is in fact the most anti-Christian president we've ever had.  

But then I remembered my own experience with a dominionist outfit.  As many of you know, during my freshman year at Carolina I was suckered into joining a campus ministry that was part of a church that was part of another notorious NAR-affiliated outfit, Every Nation.  Late in the first semester of my sophomore year, I pretended to rejoin them in order to get evidence against them to complain about them to the student attorney general's office in hopes of getting them booted off campus.  As much as I'd spoken out against them, they welcomed me back with open arms--even likening me to the Apostle Paul.  Yep, that's right--they likened my speaking out against them to persecution.  They had so convinced themselves I'd come back to them that when they found out I'd turned them in, it hit them from out of left field.  I suspect the same is going on with Joyner hoping to bring Obama into the fold--he's convinced that Obama will eventually come under "submission" to an "apostle" aligned with the NAR.


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This also has to be put in context with something Jones mentioned at the start of the video.  He'd a "prophetic word" he got about a large number of heavy hitters who will eventually come under the authority of Joyner at Morningstar.  This is critical, because the NAR believes that it is necessary for Christians--under submission to so-called apostles and prophets--to take over the "seven mountains" that influence our society--business, media, family, religion, education, media, entertainment and most importantly government.  Sounds to me that they're praying for Obama to be one of those heavy hitters.  

At this point, though, it looks like wishful thinking.  After all, all indications are that Obama has distanced himself from Samuel Rodriguez, the supposedly moderate evangelical Latino pastor who actually has close ties with the NAR.  But it's pretty revealing to see just how meglomaniacal Joyner and his fellow "prophets" and "apostles" have become.  The good news, though, is that these people are being watched--and the more the general public knows about them, the less they like.  And Joyner and his friends know it too--after all, after we bombarded this video with dislikes, they shut off the ability to rate it.

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Originally posted to Christian Dem in NC on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 06:06 PM PST.

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