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Even Eminem does GOTV

by kos

Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:20:31 AM PDT

Eminem's new video is amazing. Truly. Even if you think you don't like hip hop.

Post mirrors if you've got 'em. I know they must be out there.

Update: Sorry about the infected link. Mea culpa.

Also, from the comments:

We need this video on MTV

Go here to nominate it for TRL.

Go here to nominate it for MTV's hip hop request show.

Scroll to the bottom, click "Other", and enter Eminem for artist and "Mosh" for song title. Vote it in as many times as you can!

Get cracking!
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  •  Eminem, go to Wisconsin! (none / 0)



      Bush Kerry Nader DK Oct

    Florida  46% 49% 1% 4% 23-25

    Ohio  47% 49% * 4% 23-25

    Pennsylvania  47% 50% * 3% 23-25

    Wisconsin  47% 47% 2% 4% 16-19

    New Mexico  46% 48% 1% 5% 16-18

    New Hampshire  47% 46% 1% 6% 16-18

    Oregon  44% 49% 2% 5% 9-12

    Iowa  47% 47% 2% 4% 10-12

    * Ralph Nader is not on the ballot


    Incendiado para arriba, listo para irme.

    by gobacktotexas on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:20:23 AM PDT

    •  Bush has refused to go onto MTV (none / 0)

      John Kerry has been interviewed twice by MTV, according to their website. In addition, his daughters went on TRL yesterday (I wish they could have unveiled this video). Yet Bush has so far refused to appear on MTV, and his daughters have also refused. Which is probably good because they are so fucking stupid. But it just goes to show how little confidence they have in their candidate, that they can't even send him out for an interview with Gideon Yago.

      Old Man McCain.com - the best McCain attack blog on the web!

      by existenz on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:56:06 AM PDT

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    •  He's going to be in NY (none / 0)

      According to CNN Eminem is kicking off his new Sirius Radio channel on October 28th. I hope he makes it about GOTV as well.

      by MCinTX on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:02:25 PM PDT

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    •  Another Quicktime Mirror (none / 0)

      Full file from GNN.tv; Quicktime 6, 46.6MB; 100kb/sec+ transfer; direct download available.

      http://homepage.mac.com/mustang_dvs/

      Formerly, a voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

      by mustang dvs on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 01:13:55 PM PDT

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      •  The Return of Mainstream Protest Music? (none / 0)

        I had forgotten just how timeless Buffalo Springfield's lyrics were...

        "For What It's Worth"
        Buffalo Springfield

        There's something happening here
        What it is ain't exactly clear
        There's a man with a gun over there
        Telling me I got to beware

        I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
        Everybody look what's going down

        There's battle lines being drawn
        Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
        Young people speaking their minds
        Getting so much resistance from behind
        I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
        Everybody look what's going down

        What a field-day for the heat
        A thousand people in the street
        Singing songs and carrying signs
        Mostly say, hooray for our side

        It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
        Everybody look what's going down

        Paranoia strikes deep
        Into your life it will creep
        It starts when you're always afraid
        You step out of line, the man come and take you away

        We better stop, hey, what's that sound
        Everybody look what's going down
        Stop, hey, what's that sound
        Everybody look what's going down
        Stop, now, what's that sound
        Everybody look what's going down
        Stop, children, what's that sound
        Everybody look what's going down

        Formerly, a voice of objective reason in the partisan din of the U.S. National Security community.

        by mustang dvs on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 01:53:43 PM PDT

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  •  Lyrics... (none / 1)

    Can you give me a lyric link that doesn't require me to install suspicious third-party software on my computer?

    by Angry White Democrat on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:22:02 AM PDT

    •  These lyrics are pretty close (4.00 / 2)

      And to the Republic for which it stands
      One nation under God
      Indivisible?
      It feels so good to be back..

      Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
      I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
      I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind
      I exercise my right to express when I feel it's time
      It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
      I say to fight you take it as I? gonna whip someone's ass
      If you don't understand don't even bother to ask
      A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
      Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
      Or at least shows no difficulty multi task
      And juggling both, perhaps mastered his craft slash
      Entrepreneur who has held long too few more rap acts
      Who has had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
      Of his career typical manure moving past that
      Mister kiss his ass crack, he's a class act
      Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

      Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
      As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
      Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
      Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
      Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
      Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
      We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
      We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

      To the people up top, on the side and the middle,
      Come together, let's all bond and swamp just a little
      Just let it gradually build, from the front to the back
      All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
      Don't matter what color, all that matters is we gathered together
      To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
      If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
      They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more then ever,
      They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go,
      Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
      Stomp, push up, mush, fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home come on just . . .

      Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
      As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
      Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
      Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
      Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
      Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
      We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
      We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors, come on

      Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us,
      Mosh pits outside the oval office
      Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying
      we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered
      This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding,
      How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist
      Now this is our, final hour
      Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
      Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
      Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
      Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
      Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
      Let the President answer on high anarchy
      Strap him with AK-47, let him go
      Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
      No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
      No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
      If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
      Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
      They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
      And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
      If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

      So come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
      As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
      Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
      Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
      Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
      Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
      We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
      We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

      And as we proceed, to mosh through this desert storm, in these closing statements, if they should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences, and assemble our own army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president, for the present, and mosh for the future of our next generation, to speak and be heard, Mr. President, Mr. Senator

      by NegSpin on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:26:47 AM PDT

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    •  Ditto (none / 0)

      That link unloaded at least four different versions of spyware - disinfecting now.

      by Mountaineer on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:31:33 AM PDT

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    •  Grabbed them quickly after answering 'No' (none / 0)


      [I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
      And to the Republic for which it stands
      One nation under God
      IndivisibleE
      It feels so good to be back..]

      Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
      I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
      I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind
      I ostracize my right to express when I feel it's time
      It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
      I say to fight you take it as I'm gonna whip someone's ass
      If you don't understand don't even bother to ask
      A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
      Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
      Or at least shows no difficulty multi task
      And juggling both, perhaps mastered his craft slash
      Entrepreneur who has held long too few more rap acts
      Who has had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
      Of his career typical manure moving past that
      Mister kiss his ass crack, he's a class act
      Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

      Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
      As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
      Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
      Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
      Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
      Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
      We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
      We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

      To the people up top, on the side and the middle,
      Come together, let's all bomb and swamp just a little
      Just let it gradually build, from the front to the back
      All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
      Don't matter what color, all that matters is we gathered together
      To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
      If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
      They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more then ever,
      They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go,
      Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
      Stomp, push up, mush, fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home come on just . . .

      Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
      As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
      Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
      Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
      Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
      Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
      We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
      We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors, come on

      Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us,
      Mosh pits outside the oval office
      Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying
      we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered
      This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding,
      How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist
      Now this is our, final hour
      Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
      Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
      Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
      Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
      Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
      Let the President answer on high anarchy
      Strap him with AK-47, let him go
      Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
      No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
      No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
      If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
      Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
      They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
      And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
      If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

      So come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
      As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
      Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
      Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
      Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
      Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
      We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
      We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

      [Eminem speaking angrily]
      And as we proceed, to mosh through this desert storm, in these closing statements, if they should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences, and assemble our own army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president, for the present, and mosh for the future of our next generation, to speak and be heard, Mr. President, Mr. Senator

      by DynomiteUVA on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:31:47 AM PDT

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    •  Same (none / 0)

      That link needs to get washed - immediately.

      Ad-Aware is going nuts - over 100 suspicious infectious registry keys added and I clicked on it about a minute ago.

      by Edge on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:32:48 AM PDT

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    •  Third party software? (none / 1)

      Huh, I opened it fine in firefox.  though I am using linux, so maybe that's why :)

      by Azureflare on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:34:22 AM PDT

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    •  Spyware and IE (4.00 / 4)

      Reason #43275 to NOT use IE for general browsing.

      Got no problem with it for specific tasks; there are some sites that require it or work better. But even with the security features jacked up, browsing strange sites with IE is like tapdancing through a minefield. Use Mozilla Firefox and you'll never go wrong.

      Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.

      by Catsy on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:39:42 AM PDT

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  •  from gnn (none / 0)

    http://www.gnn.tv/videos/video.php?id=27

    by professorhojo on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:22:26 AM PDT

  •  We need this video on MTV (4.00 / 6)

    Go here to nominate it for TRL.

    Go here to nominate it for MTV's hip hop request show.

    Scroll to the bottom, click "Other", and enter Eminem for artist and "Mosh" for song title. Vote it in as many times as you can!

    Old Man McCain.com - the best McCain attack blog on the web!

    by existenz on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:22:59 AM PDT

    •  Done ... (none / 0)

      and I'm recommending this diary. If we can get 5,000 requests we'll make some noise.

      i was just to stubborn to every be governed by enforced insanity ...

      by iSiS on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:26:17 AM PDT

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    •  Promoting this video is a great cause! (none / 0)

      It's like a free campaign ad if it gets aired.  This is so much more important than a CNN poll.  Comeon Kos let's get to work!

      by Katulus on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:18:21 PM PDT

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    •  We don't need to work on this (none / 1)

      This juggernaut doesn't need the help of Kossacks. Understanding that this is true is understanding why this election is different, and why the polls are not correct. This video will have an effect on young voters, not because we push it, but because it will enter into their mediascape and be distributed fractally. The effect of this new media infrastructure has likely already outstripped any efforts we could mount. I suggest we all get back to doing things that NEED our help.

      by lectric on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 01:30:10 PM PDT

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      •  You are so correct (none / 0)

        This is sooo much bigger than D-Kos and any sites we can freep.

        The timing is perfect too, GOTV stuff can be kind of preachy, it doesn't weather well.  Most of the target audience will be seeing this for the first time Thursday or Friday, and if they are anything like me, will not be able to keep re-watching it over an over again.

        by SoLeft on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 01:50:20 PM PDT

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        •  You are right about timing (none / 0)

          Marshall is making a big play. Really big. Big enough to fit his ego. And he IS big enough to make it, and have an effect. He understands his audience down to the base genome. He knows the attention span, the mode of distribution...I can't say enough about how much of an impact this will have. Look at the imagery at the beginning of the video. The research that leads him to the conclusion is a pastiche of media clippings, headlines, pictures. That's the nature of the mediascape and of the flow. he's connecting. Very cool. I don't care for eminem for a lot of reasons, but this has shown me something new about him. I've never doubted he was smart, but this is just a new side: his smarts put to good purpose. I also like the way he puts Kerry on notice at the very end. Its like he's saying, don't make me raise this army again.

          by lectric on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 02:16:34 PM PDT

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          •  agree.. (none / 0)

            agree with your analysis... but, want to also give kudos to the folks at gnn.  they did an awesome job in very short time (they were given less than 6 weeks).  really brilliant....

            by selise on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 02:45:39 PM PDT

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            •  Absolutely (none / 0)

              I didn't realize the depth of involvement of GNN. Amazing work, and amazing that M&M would throw his considerable weight and rep as an "outsider" behind such a project. Well, I guess that's what happens when you move to the Hollywood Hills. The Liberal Establishment in Hollywood gets its hooks into you (kidding of course).

              by lectric on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 05:09:01 PM PDT

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  •  Now to get it on MTV (none / 0)

    I'd really get a kick out of seeing this on TRL even if majority of the viewers are kids who can't vote :D

    OH-16: John Boccieri will finally end 36 years of Regula Rule.

    by marcvstraianvs on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:23:17 AM PDT

    •  Eminem will be on SNL this week! (none / 0)

      Hopefully he performs this song and comes out and endorses Kerry for President. That would make news. In addition, I'd love to see him say "Fuck Bush" on live TV, though they may give Em a 5-second tape delay in case he decides not to censor himself.

      It will be memorable television, I think.

      Old Man McCain.com - the best McCain attack blog on the web!

      by existenz on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:02:51 PM PDT

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      •  Yes! (none / 0)

        You beat me to the punch in mentioning it, but I totally agree!  I'm heading straight home after work on Saturday and it's one time I'm going to feel great about staying in.

        "If I knew what was going on, I'd really be indignant!"

        by thomsirveaux on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:13:52 PM PDT

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      •  A tape delay for Eminem? Unheard of. (none / 0)


        -- Barbara Boxer Hates Freedom

        by Proud And Free on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:18:12 PM PDT

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      •  warrior poet (none / 0)

        The song itself has the word "fuck" in it.  Maybe they can just silence that word and still broadcast it OK thru FCC restrictions?

        My eyes are still wet after watching Eminem's vid.  

        Act of a Patriot, it is.

        Now I'll go do the MTV votes.

        Civil society is our collective creation. It's an honorable source of growth, mutual satisfaction and fulfillment. It's yours and mine to nurture, or nix.

        by Civil Sibyl on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:57:06 PM PDT

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        •  I *heart* Eminem (none / 0)

          Amen on the eyes wet thing. I get weepy whenever I sense movement and momentum like this.

          I'm by no means a hip hop fan, but I've always thought Eminem had heart and brains. This is just more proof.

          I'm looking forward to living in the world the Y generation creates -- presuming the current generation doesn't blow it to smithereens, first.

          by darcyjae on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 01:45:33 PM PDT

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          •  The Y's have it. (none / 0)

            Not just here, but in much of the world as well -- they feel the angst, and begin to organize a different way to live.  May middle-aged progressives like me learn best how to help them.

            Earth's riches, with our technologies, and our ways of people-organization can build a world where the billions can build a vibrant life.  Sharing the power.

            Civil society is our collective creation. It's an honorable source of growth, mutual satisfaction and fulfillment. It's yours and mine to nurture, or nix.

            by Civil Sibyl on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 02:24:27 PM PDT

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  •  It must be tough sometimes (4.00 / 2)

    to be Jenna and not-Jenna

    by seanflynn on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:25:00 AM PDT

  •  This is great! (none / 0)

    Love him or hate him, people listen to Eminem. It's really looking good for Kerry. Any candidate that attract both Eminem and Andrew Sullivan has got to win.

    Our long national nightmare is almost over.

    by morielly on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:27:15 AM PDT

    •  and Bruce (none / 0)

      Don't forget the Boss. He objected to Reagan using "Born in the USA" on the campaign trail, but no one listened, and a generation of Republicans grew up thinking this working-class rocker from New Jersey & Philadelphia was one of their own.

      by HumptyDumpty on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:17:07 PM PDT

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  •  there was a diary about this yesterday (none / 0)

    with multiple links for video.
    But I haven't figured out how to search old diaries yet.

    by bluesteel on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:27:49 AM PDT

  •  screw the mirrors (none / 0)

    Just go to Launch.com, they have pretty much all the current videos for free.

    "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon

    by Windowdog on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:30:51 AM PDT

  •  If you've lost Emimem... (none / 0)

    ...you've lost middle America.

    Powerful stuff. I'm amazed there hasn't been more of an uproar about this on the campaign trail (yet, I guess...)

    The imagery and lyrics are about as harsh as anything I've seen in the mainstream media... even moreso than F911.

    by thirdparty on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:31:12 AM PDT

    •  Harsher than F9/11 (none / 0)

      Yep.  Check the scene on the t'v. in the eviction notice part... bin Laden as a cardboard cutout with fake scenery that falls away revealing Colin Powell in a news studio.  The message isn't that Bush didn't get bin Laden, it's that bin Laden is a prop.

      The voice of Mosh spends a lot of time on fathers, too, contrasting Mathers' family history with that of Bush's.  Mosh attempts a psychoanalysis of Bush.  Regardless of how accurate that may be, it's interesting.  A personal attack in rap usually depends on a specific kind of insult.  Mosh dismisses Bush as not worth battling.

      "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin." -- Charles Darwin

      by jkelly on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:41:37 AM PDT

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      •  The Bin Laden portion (none / 0)

        would probably be the most controversial, along with the line "maybe we can reach Al Qaeda through my speech".

        Wingnuts and thugs would interpret these to say that Eminem thinks Bin Laden isn't real or that we need to have a dialogue with Al Qaeda. In fact that isn't Eminem's position at all. His position is that we should have killed Bin Laden instead of simply used him as a way to distract from other problems. You notice how the TV cuts away from Bush's speech with yet more "Terror Alerts". But these terror alerts are shown to be fake, a way to keep us afraid, to distract us from the corruption of the Bush years.

        Here is what Eminem recently told Rolling Stone:

        I think he [Bush] started a mess.  America is the best country there is, the best country to live in.  But he's f*kin' that up and could run our country into the ground.  He jumped the gun, and he f*ked up so bad he doesn't know what to do right now. He's in a tailspin, running around like a dog chasing its tail. And we got young people over there dyin', kids in their teens, early twenties that should have futures ahead of them. And for what? It seems like a Vietnam 2. Bin Laden attacked us and we attacked Saddam. We ain't heard from Saddam for ten years, but we go attack Saddam. Explain why that is. Give us some answers.

        Old Man McCain.com - the best McCain attack blog on the web!

        by existenz on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:54:06 AM PDT

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  •  Right On! (none / 0)

    This is powerful and once again, shows to importance of arts and culture in helping our democracy.  We need MORE speech, not less.

    go mnm. go kerry.

    San Diego Steve "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion."

    by SanDiegoSteve on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:31:29 AM PDT

  •  Blogdex probably has mirrors (none / 0)

    n/t

    An untypical Negro...since 1954.

    by blksista on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:31:50 AM PDT

  •  If you want it on MTV... (none / 1)

    ... then you need to pressure Eminem, not MTV.  MTV's videoshows are all on payola, and Viacom isn't going to expose themselves to the political risk in order to satisfy our write-in campaign.

      What will make them think twice is if Eminem warns them that he won't send future videos to MTV or make appearances on MTV programming, unless they air his video.

    -9.13, -8.56

    Support Irony. Torture Rumsfeld.

    Hail Eris.

    by Transmission on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:32:31 AM PDT

  •  all i got to say is WOW (4.00 / 2)

    I have always liked Eminem.. i'll never forget the first time that I heard one of his songs.  He's a lyrical genius, in my opinion.  His songs so effectively channel the obvious angst and anger that he feels.  He's one of the rare, truly genuine musical artists of our time.

    This video really hit home with me.  Thoughout I could just feel the anger just welling up in me and ready to burst.  The animators for this video should be commended, talk about using exactly the right images.. I mean by the end i was so emotional.. it's hard to describe.  Just a mixture of pure anger and sadness.  Tears were literally welling up in me.  How many music videos can you say that about??

    Why settle for the truth when you can have Truthiness???

    by wintersnowman on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:33:15 AM PDT

  •  wow (none / 1)

    [I]n these closing statements, if they should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences, and assemble our own army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president.

    Wow. Just wow. And I am a fairly well known writer who nearly has a PhD in English.

    John McCain: Bush right to veto kids health insurance expansion

    by Chris Bowers on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:33:36 AM PDT

    •  Yeah, well, if you're just learning about Eminem (none / 0)

      it would seem pretty amazing. He is justly criticized for some harsh and sexist views, but the reason he rises to the top is that he is wickedly brilliant. His word-play is pretty much unmatched.

      by drmark on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:53:42 AM PDT

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    •  Check out "America" (none / 0)

      Buddy Eminem is the lyrical equivalent of a moab and, in my humble opinion, the most radical political voice in America today.

      There's a PhD in rhetoric to be done in his political works alone. Listen to any one of them and you're ready to riot.

      --- "opendna is high and just makin' shit up outta nowhere." - greenskeeper

      by opendna on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 05:17:33 PM PDT

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  •  I just wrote (none / 0)

    a diary on another must see video called (Didn't Know I Was) UnAmerican that I found over at The Left Coaster. It's a great video about how we have been called every name in the book for doing our patriotic duty.

    by Mike S on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:33:40 AM PDT

  •  Holy crap. (none / 1)

    My problem with Eminem has always been that he wanted so badly to be thought to be a rebel, fighting some righteous fight, but it always seemed to be the righteous-in-his-eyes-but-not-in-mine fight against anyone who disagreed with him or criticized him at all.  Not unlike Bush, come to think of it.  But now he's picked an actual fight, and I respect him for that.  

    I really welcome the addition of his significant talent to this fight.  He can for damn sure do more good than I can.

    by MissLaura on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:33:45 AM PDT

    •  Best Line (none / 0)

      "If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight"

      The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by easong on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:36:46 AM PDT

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    •  Eminem raps only to be seen as a rebel? WTF? (3.33 / 3)

      Your argument smacks of Republicanism.  Time to think for yourself.

      • Kerry was anti-war not because he cared about America and her values and soldiers and veterans, but because he wanted to use the bloodshed of American soldiers to vault himself into political life.  

      • Eminem sang his songs and dared to be outrageous not because he actually believed what he was saying, but because he wanted to 'fight some righteous fight' in order to be 'thought a rebel'.

      • Richard Clarke didn't write his book to improve the discourse on American security, but to make a lot of money and get back at President Bush for something.

      It's like listening to Republicans talk about anyone they don't agree with.  The list goes on and on.

      And Gosh forbid someone actually carry a chip on their shoulder to help propel them to fame and fortune.  That would not only be extremely common, that would be much worse than that - that'd be like, so, Eminem.  And why is he acting so righteously anyway?  What right does he have?

      But now he's picked 'an actual fight'?  That's good.  Let's pretend that everything he's ever rapped about has been to promote his image as a rebel.  Nothing about race, free speech, socioeconomic issues, social norms, or anything else of importance - to you, anyways.

      Of course, I'm glad you approve.  Is it ok if we listen to some Eminem now that he's picked a real fight?  That is, a fight that you approve of?  

      Just asking...

      by shmooth on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:27:17 PM PDT

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      •  Uh, overreacting much? (4.00 / 2)

        WTF, indeed? Your claim that I'm not thinking for myself is insulting, ill-informed, and leads me to really just want to reply to you by saying "oh, bite me."  But because I'm marginally an adult, I won't.  Similarly, what's up with the implication that I'm being elitist because I don't like Eminem?  Let me assure you that in my circles, liking country music, which I do, is seen as being a lot more declasse than liking rap and Eminem in particular.  Seems like you're basically taking a page from his book: "Someone who has no power over me has said something I disagree with.  How about if I frame it in the most extreme way possible so that I'm twisting their words to mean something they didn't say, and then I'll act like their words -- not action taken against me, but simple words -- oppress me and it's a brave and manly thing to insult them."

        I make no claim to have deconstructed the lyrics of every song he ever released.  But yeah, when even the gentlest critique anyone offered of his fairly rampant misogyny was routinely met with personal insult and bragging about how he, Eminem, was not going to be intimidated by the likes of Christina Aguilera saying that maybe it was inappropriate to be fantasizing about killing his daughter's mother or whatever she said, that's empy rebellion.  That's setting up straw men and then being proud you can knock them down.  Admittedly I haven't paid any attention in several years and maybe things have changed, but for the brief time I paid attention, he was acting like a bully and then trying to get credit for being all brave.

        by MissLaura on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:43:18 PM PDT

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    •  In other words (none / 0)

      You didn't like how he fought for himself.

      You don't approve that he acted out his violent instincts lyrically instead of physically. He should have attended anger management classes instead, or something. I guess he can afford them now that he's made millions giving angry teens a vent for their frustrations.

      By the way, the hubub you remember was instigated by Lynn Cheney and the Christian Right. Check out his response to them in "America". Maybe you'll agree with the lines:

      "You laugh now, but just wait 'till your ass gets drafted. I'm 28 - they'll take you before they take me."
      As he says, rap music was fine in the harlem but people started getting nervous when white girls in Boston started listening to it.

      You want him to convey an ethic of hard work? Try "Rabbit Run".

      --- "opendna is high and just makin' shit up outta nowhere." - greenskeeper

      by opendna on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 05:32:22 PM PDT

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  •  Bit Torrent? (none / 0)

    If anyone wants to provide a BitTorrent link, I'll leave my client up all day for others to download.  I downloaded the vid yesterday, but don't know how to create a BitTorrent file.  Otherwise I'd do it myself.

    The excessive use of television and automobiles can be hazardous to your health.

    by Greenkermie in AZ on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:33:51 AM PDT

  •  What Michael Moore Did in 2 Hours of F911 (none / 0)

    Eminem does in three minutes.

    The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by easong on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:35:27 AM PDT

  •  other download sources (none / 0)

    archive.org

    torrent link 1

    torrent link 2

    torrent link 3

    torrent links not verified but should be working.

    by lukas on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:37:00 AM PDT

  •  I cried so hard seeing this video (4.00 / 4)

    sigh everything I've held inside me---the long four years under this terrible administration, the fear through the terror alerts, wondering if tomorrow would be brighter than today---all came out on seeing this video.

    Want to learn more about Values-Based Living?

    by slinkerwink on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:37:23 AM PDT

  •  More Bush will lead to 1960s again? (none / 0)

    There's an undercurrent of disaffection in this country, and seeing the Eminem video shows how strong it is becoming. Seems to me if we keep on with another Bush term we're going to see the kind of unrest in the streets like during the 1960s. God, why did Bush have to make this country relive Vietnam?

    Volunteers Jefferson Airplane

    Look what's happening out in the streets
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Hey I'm dancing down the streets
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Ain't it amazing all the people I meet
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    One generation got old
    One generation got soul
    This generation got no destination to hold
    Pick up the cry
    Hey now it's time for you and me
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Come on now we're marching to the sea
    Got a revolution Got to revolution
    Who will take it from you
    We will and who are we
    We are volunteers of America

    Are you shaking or biting the invisible hand?

    by puppethead on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:37:47 AM PDT

  •  I only checked the diary today (none / 0)

    I saw it up there but it wasn't until today that I actually bothered to see the video. I have been emailing my family all morning to see it. My dad (who is 60) thought it was powerful and that's pretty amazing to me. I'm glad this got centered on this page.

    I was watching something on CSPAN the other day and I can't remember who it was but it was addressing the HipHop GOTV message and someone's concern that on the one hand they do great things with that but on the other they have songs about killing and violence. The reverend got right to it - he said this is the best opportunity to show and encourage the positive messages that these artists can portray rather than always assuming the worst from them. That's so true.

    by MCinTX on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:37:49 AM PDT

  •  Terrific! (none / 0)

    The GOPers would probably say this smacks of anarchy, but I think it's absolutely brilliant.

    It expresses so many things ... the power that our youth holds; the freedom of speech in oppressive times; the underlying scream for protecting our country from thugs; and the absolute necessity of voting.

    "Self-respect is the keystone of democracy"

    by neverontheright on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:37:52 AM PDT

    •  Anarchy? No.... (none / 0)

      You may be right about the rightist take on it, but feeling empowered to go out and vote, anarchy? I hope not.

      I'm no hip-hop fan, but I found Mosh really moving, especially towards the end. I think I might even stay up to watch SNL this Saturday.

      by bdizz on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 02:47:34 PM PDT

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  •  Unbelievable (4.00 / 3)

    The first song of the millennium to do what so many did in '67, '68. Shame it wasn't Chuck D, but still...you take what you can get.

    Thank you Eminem.

    (Never thought I'd write those words.)

    "One should always have one's boots on and be ready to leave." - Michel de Montaigne

    by adamgreenfield on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:38:51 AM PDT

  •  Aside from the spyware (none / 0)

    Kos you crashed the link again. You're like a big puppy who doesn't know his own strength.

    So I guess it seems that pop culture still knows how to write a protest song. So long Bob dylan. Hello, MnM.

    thechosenone021- What you know will probably kill you

    by thechosenone021 on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:39:05 AM PDT

    •  Maybe Zimmy and Slim Shady (none / 0)

      could do something together. That'd be

      HEAVYYYY

      Bob, Shady, you guys out there?

      "I read very few books" -- Markos Moulitsas

      by kwyzkl on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:49:19 AM PDT

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      •  That reminds me (none / 0)

        I was listening to the pop station at work today and the worst song ever came on. No, not Ashley Simpson but some song with Nelly (the rap artist) and Tim McGraw (the country singer). It is horrible and I'd be surprised if a Dylan and Eminem song would be much better. By the way if you hear the DJ announce the airing of the Nelly/Mcgraw song don't listen for more than 10 seconds or you will try to destroy your radio.

        by nater1979 on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:03:29 PM PDT

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        •  sounds interesting (none / 0)

          What might be cool'd be eminem sampling Dylan, maybe "Tangled Up in Blue" or something and rapping over it. Have you heard J-Zee's "Grey Album" (I don't know if you're a hiphop fan or not)? Allegedly it's filled with illegal Beatle's samples, and is said to be the shiznit. Haven't heard it yet myself, but looking forward to it.

          "I read very few books" -- Markos Moulitsas

          by kwyzkl on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:14:59 PM PDT

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        •  Dylan & Eminem could co-write (none / 0)

          But Eminem should perform it. I'm a huge Dylan fan, but his voice is way too gravelly now for a duet with Eminem. It just wouldn't match well.

          Still, I'd love it if they co-wrote a rap. They'd have to find a subject they both care about though. It would be one of the oddest collaborations in history though.

          Old Man McCain.com - the best McCain attack blog on the web!

          by existenz on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:20:11 PM PDT

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          •  Dylan was the first white rapper (none / 0)

            If you've ever heard "Subterranean Homesick Blues" you know what I mean. He and Eminem are like bookends. Or was that Simon and Garfunkel? I'm getting confused...

            "I read very few books" -- Markos Moulitsas

            by kwyzkl on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 12:28:42 PM PDT

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  •  Great Video - Channeling the Anger (none / 0)

    Watched this last night... it kicks ass!  I'm 33, so I'm way too old for hip hop (more like 1980s Brit-pop), but this is a great video.  Just wish it had come out a week before most states registration deadlines, rather than a week before the election.

    The best thing about this, IMHO, is that it channels the anger in a positive direction.  It brings up the reasons to be angry, and then, just as you think the mob is about to start kicking some major butt on the bad guys... they... show up the the polls and VOTE!

    by GregP on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:40:26 AM PDT

    •  Ha Ha Greg, Quit Being So Old... (none / 0)

      I'm 40 and have loved this guy since he first became "known" (yeah, I still try to keep up a little though I love that 80's Brit/Synth Pop, too).

      The guy is a lyrical genius and he's outdone himself with this one.  Outstanding!

      by Hose B on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 11:53:17 AM PDT

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      •  Old? (none / 0)

        51 and counting here, but with 3 kids still in college, I LOVE hiphop, and can probably rap along with more of it than most 20 somethings.

        This kid is brilliant, angry, but brilliant.  

        "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine 4100+ dead Americans. Bring them home.

        by Miss Blue on Tue Oct 26, 2004 at 01:04:09 PM PDT

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    •  Greg, Eminem is 32 years old (none / 0)

      So he's basically the same age as you. You are definitely NOT too old for hip-hop. Hell, when you were in your early 20s Dr. Dre and Snoop were busting down with the Chronic. This stuff's bee