Cliff Arnebeck: Ohio lawsuit to be filed Monday a.m.
Sun Dec 12, 2004 at 04:27:58 AM PDT
Randi Rhodes' interview with Cliff Arnebeck can be heard
here
It seems still to be the latest source of information so far on what is happening re the lawsuit, as far as I can find anyway.
Here is a precis of what Arnebeck says in the interview:
He says a lawsuit will be filed 9.00 Monday. He does not want to give too much away because the other side will be listening. Conyers is convening a hearing at City Hall Chambers in Columbus, Broad Street, joined by fellow members of his committe and progressive legislative leaders in the state of Ohio. It was originally scheduled to be at the State Capitol but they have been refused a room there. At the hearing, various experts will lay out evidence, for the press and others "that Kerry won Ohio and the nation, and that there is overwhelming evidence to that effect".
He says the Republicans do not want the votes counted, because "if they count the votes it will prove they didn't win". He talks about Clinton Curtis's evidence that the vote may have been hacked, and cites Ronnie Duggers' claim that challenges should have been mounted in both Ohio and Florida this time round. He says he understood Florida was going to be challenged and was very surprised when it was not. Cites exit poll evidence that Kerry won Ohio, and says that exit poll data is more likely to be accurate given the vulnerability of the voting system to manipulation and partisan influence, and the statistical anomalies observed. Cites the fact that it was exit polls that revealed fraud in Ukraine. Claims "dramatic anomalies" "that make no sense".
Refutes the idea that it is time to "move on" saying "if they get away with the fraud this time, it will only increase". He talks about how evidence now shows Gore won Florida on any reasonable scenario, and, in answer to Randi's contention that it's all going to happen again, says that it won't happen again this time because the "grassroots are rising up". He semi-excuses the major media for ignoring the story up till now, as, because Kerry conceded, it seemed as though investigations wouldn't affect the result.
The interview ends up with an argument as to whether, once fraud is proven, it will make any difference. Randi maintains the Ohio legislature will send a Republican slate of electors anyway. Arnebeck says, this is America, we are not worse than Ukraine, and America does not reward criminal conduct. He hopes and believes the press will cover Monday's hearing "because we are going to have people there who will blow this thing away". He ends by saying: "our job is to get the truth out. This is still America, if the truth won't float in America, it's no longer America"
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