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The first VP to land in New Orleans was Al Gore, who chartered a rescue plane to medEvac Charity Hospital patients to Tennessee.  Gore declined interviews last weekend while he was shuttling the evacuees, but the doctors who flew with him talked about the experience.

Gore had to work around sequential blockade by FEMA and NDMS – which naturally denied his team permissions, repeatedly (after the flip).


KNOXVILLE, Tenn.(AP) - Al Gore helped airlift some 270 Katrina evacuees on two private charters from New Orleans, acting at the urging of a doctor who saved the life of the former vice president's son.

...    [Gore] refused to be interviewed about the mercy missions he financed and flew last Saturday and Sunday. . . .

On [Thurs] Sept. 1, three days after Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast, Simon learned that Dr. David Kline ... was stranded with patients at Charity Hospital in New Orleans.

"The situation was dire and becoming worse by the minute - food and water running out, no power, 4 feet of water surrounding the hospital and ... corpses outside," Simon wrote.

Gore responded immediately . . .


 

Gore responded immediately, telephoning Kline and agreeing to underwrite the $50,000 each for the two flights, although Larry Flax, founder of California Pizza Kitchens, later pledged to pay for one of them.


The skinny on Al Gore's coordination of the airlift:

At TPM Cafe, Greg Simon, the pres of FasterCures, recounted the determined (and agonizing) logistical coordination that resulted, finally, in the 2 airlifts of patients and evacuees to Tennessee. (If you have time, you should click over and read the fuller story yourself.) Here's my take on it.

Gore flew from Tenn. to Dallas (to pick up the chartered plane), to La. to Tenn. – and then did the whole thing again the next day.  The idea was hatched Thursday night, and the advocates for the mission, including Simon, Gore and staff butted heads with the bureacrats for the next 2 days through mid-day Saturday.

At nearly every turn, FEMA or NDMS and military officials tried to stop these 2 flights.

The 1st flight out on Saturday was mostly patients in need of supervised care, including dialysis and insulin, and the second one on Sunday had more evacuees and fewer patients.

After landing slots were denied numerous times during the planning, the one person in Washington who would grant the 2 landing slots ended up being the single Democratic member of Bush's cabinet, Norm Mineta.  That took a personal call from Gore to Mineta to override the instructions from below to withhold landing slots.

An amazing read at TPM Cafe (link above).

The first flight to Knoxville brought about 100 patients and 40 non-patients.  The second flight on Sunday transported 130 evacuees to Chatanooga.

More info is also found in local coverage from Tennessee.

     Haven from fury Mercy Flight Brings Evacuees to ET (=East Tennessee)
     Gore accompanies about 140 arrivals from New Orleans but declines to take credit

   "Gore chose not to speak to the assembled media, but he was seen in a black T-shirt and jeans moving rapidly from one side of the plane to the other assisting with the off-loading operation.

"Participating in the operation were the Knoxville Fire Department, the Blount County Rescue Squad and the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency. Cruisers from the Tennessee Highway Patrol escorted the buses to hospitals.

"Additional medical personnel within the regional emergency system also were on standby.

"Units at the airports included at least 10 ambulances, a phalanx of buses, fire trucks and other equipment."


It's about time the press pick up on this.  Before this, it had only been covered in Tennessee papers.

Originally posted to joan reports on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 10:54 PM PDT.

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  •  What a mensch. (4.00)
    America could use a mensch right now.
    •  What would have been, could have been (4.00)
      hate to do this,

      but I do think sometimes...

      If Gore had been President

      • would 9/11 have even happened?
      • if 9/11 had happened, would Gore have allowed Bin Laden and friends to slip away
      • would Gore have gotten us quagmired in Iraq?
      • would the nation have spent itself into deep budget deficits and pork spending while our soldiers don't have enough armor in Iraq?
      • would Gore have been golfing, eating birthday cake while New Orleans was flooding - well we have an answer to that from the two pics in this diary.

      I have always thought why cry over spilt milk. But sometimes thats all you have left - the crying.
      •  You forgot (3.85)
        would the levees have held because Gore fully funded the flood control and levee maintenance projects for the Army Corps of Engineers.

        And even if they broke, the disaster would have been mitigated because FEMA was run by professionals and all of the National Guard along with all of their highwater vehicles, emergency generators, and communications equipments was in the State rather than IN IRAQ.

      •  What can and what should be :) (3.83)
        swingvoter, I am with you on each one of your points. Since what has goneby has indeed goneby, perhaps we could make a difference by getting behind and encouraging a 2008 run by Gore, and in drumming up support for it.

        Towards this end, I'd like to introduce here this diary, where I make a case (and a collage) for why Gore would make a great candidate in 2008, and also urging Al to run in 2008: The Earth's in Peril, Mr. (Vice) President!

        It would be great if Al decides to return to politics and becomes one of our strongest voices even before the 2008 season comes our way. We badly need some powerful voices, in join that of Howard Dean.

        Joan Reports: thanks for the post with the additional details about these missions!

      •  What's certain... (none)
        ...is if Gore had been President during Katrina, there would have been many more survivors, a lot less damage, and a lot more criticism about the President from Republicans and the media.
      •  Or your nice statement (none)
        I have always thought why cry over spilt milk. But sometimes thats all you have left - the crying.

        might be changed to

        But sometimes thats all you have left - the spilt milk.

      •  Unfortunately 9/11.... (none)
        First, I believe there is a pretty good chance 9/11 WOULD NOT HAVE happened to Gore... why?

        1. He may have thwarted it-- you know, because he takes memos with titles "determined to strike" seriously!

        2. Members of his Admin probably wouldn't have been complicit with what happened... not that we know the Bush people were... <snark?>

        BUT... had 9/11 happened-- Gore would have been castigated- he could have stood on the pile of rubble and said the same things as Bush, but he would have been laid low by the media-- likely, he would not have survived re-election.

        But... a President McCain would have dealt quite better with the hurricane I would guess...

        Bush will be impeached.

        by jgkojak on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 02:09:25 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Yeah, But . . . (3.50)
      Would you want to have a beer with the guy?  He's just not likable.  How could he ever have made a good president if he's not the kind of guy who's fund to get drunk and choke on pretzels with?

      "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

      "L'enfer, c'est le GOP!" - JJB, from an idea by oratorio

      by JJB on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 04:29:32 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Beers with Al (4.00)
        Actually yes.  I'd love to have a beer with Al Gore.

        He's smart funny and articulate and knows about a lot of things.  So we could sip our beers and eat pretzels and talk about what was in the paper recently, what we'd read recently, what music we'd been listening to, and crack jokes about the president.

        I'm afraid a beer with Bush would just subject me to a bunch of chatter about Texas sports and stories about the last time we got hammered.

        So Al, next time you and Tipper are in Chicago look me up and I'll buy ya a round....

      •  I see you point... (none)
        and that it sooooo fu--ed up!!!  What the f--- is wring with the people in the country?
      •  Gore IS Likeable! (4.00)
        -->He's just not likable.

        JJB: I think that that's an unfair assessment.

        Yes, Gore is not as flamboyantly charismatic as Bill Clinton, or as boorishly (or Forrest Gumpishly) adorable (not to me, but for others) as Chimperor Nero, but GORE IS LIKEABLE. He used to be a bit camera-conscious, that's all.

        But, going by his 2004 speeches, he's gotten much more comfortable with the camera since the 2000 stolen election.

        •  Goak There (none)
          I'm just repeating the MSM rubbish from the 2000 election.

          Frankly, even if it's correct, I don't consider that a valid reason to vote for one person over another anyway, and what other country considers such a thing when voting for its head of government?  

          Of course, I'm one of those weirdos who finds Dim Son to be profoundly unlikeable, so what do I know?

          "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

          "L'enfer, c'est le GOP!" - JJB, from an idea by oratorio

          by JJB on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 07:37:29 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

            •  Well (none)
              it's not in Websters but from my personal experience a goak is an imaginary dilletante term term for a smarmy chortle with a roll of the eyes and an "are you really that stupid?" aura.

              Typically goaks are only uttered by self-superior psuedo academics and/or failed actors who never miss an opportunity to try and impress others with their snide superiority.

              (Cross-posted in my pants)

              by Calishfornia on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:55:43 AM PDT

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              •  thanks (none)
                for the help there, calishfornia. I appreciate it!

                JJB: sure, your snark went over my head, but you didn't really have to insult me with "Goak" did ya? :) Are you in fact an academic, as calish seems to suspect?

                •  No (none)
                  Calishfornia has a grudge against me, and has stalked me on occasion.  His explanation is incorrect, but then that's par for the course with his posts.  He imagines himself to be witty.  Really.

                  "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

                  "L'enfer, c'est le GOP!" - JJB, from an idea by oratorio

                  by JJB on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 06:54:40 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  Stalked? (none)
                    No, no stalker here my friend.  

                    I just prefer to call a blowhard a blowhard when I happen to cross your typically arrogant fulminations.  

                    If the real life JJB is anything like the online version at Dkos, my pity to your friends and family for the tedium they must endure.  

                    BTW, you are living proof of your signature.

                    Cheers,

                    (Cross-posted in my pants)

                    by Calishfornia on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 07:34:32 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  Well, You Certainly Are (none)
                      Living proof of yours.

                      And, yes, a stalker you are.  Still, if I can provide a purpose for your empty life, I've done a mitzvah.

                      Speaking of life, it's beautiful.  You should get one.

                      "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

                      "L'enfer, c'est le GOP!" - JJB, from an idea by oratorio

                      by JJB on Sun Sep 11, 2005 at 04:33:59 AM PDT

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                •  Addendum (none)
                  I intended no disrespect to you by saying that, and as you'll notice, an explanation was posted as a direct reply to your comment.

                   

                  "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

                  "L'enfer, c'est le GOP!" - JJB, from an idea by oratorio

                  by JJB on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 06:58:09 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

            •  A Misspelling Of Joke (none)
              That was used by Artemis Ward (real name Charles Farrar Browne), an American writer from the mid-19th century who used to write in a sort of American-bumpkin vernacular (with lots of comic phonetic renderings of simple words), and had a style so deadpan that he had to start writing "(goak here)" after some of his more outlandish statements lest people think he was serious (apparently, one such person was in this comment thead today, judging by the "1" I received).  Very popular in his time, Ward is now remembered, if at all, as the man who got the writing career of Mark Twain started by helping him get "The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County" published.

              Samples of Wards writing:

              "I can't sing. As a singist I am not a success. I am saddest when I sing. So are those who hear me. They are sadder even than I am."

              "Let us all be happy and live within our means, even if we have to borrow the money to do it with."

              "I'm not a politician, and my other habits are good."

              "Why is this thus? What is the reason for this thusness?"

              "'Tain't what we don't know that hurts us so much. It's what we do know that just ain't so."

              Anyway, I usually write "goak here" when I'm being sarcastic or ironic, guess I should have done so in this instance. :-)

              "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

              "L'enfer, c'est le GOP!" - JJB, from an idea by oratorio

              by JJB on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 04:21:44 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

      •  That is media spin lets be honest here I imagine (none)
        Al is really a fun guy to be around when he is relaxed.

        Lots of people see the world in Black and White. It is mostly just shades of grey.

        by Davinci on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:12:56 AM PDT

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      •  No to a beer with Bush (none)
        Something tells me he'd be the loud-mouthed asshole in the place asking ladies if they spit or swallow and talking shit to all the guys with the smug smirk on his face.  Then he'd stumble outside to get some fresh air, pass out in his puke leaving you to pay the entire bill and all you had was a Stella.  
  •  Saw it (4.00)
    online somewhere last Monday. I'd just been wondering what Gore was up to, figuring that he'd be involved in some kind of humanitarian mission.

    I was so glad to see him do this.

    "I am your king!" "Well, I didn't vote for you." "You don't vote for kings." - Monty Python

    by Liberaljentaps on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 10:54:25 PM PDT

    •  That explains Frist's (4.00)
      decision to not practice medicine by video this time.  
    •  I diaried it on Monday (none)
      I actually stole it from someone at MYDD who wanted it posted here, but wasnt a member. Here. It made it to the rec. list. and now a week later, the AP finally picks it up. Some liberal media. :).

      A great episode of the HBO series "Rome" this week: Rome is burning while Nero refuses to leave his vacation -Dave Letterman

      by jj32 on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:50:41 AM PDT

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  •  THIS (4.00)
    is why I want(ed) him for president!  
  •  why has the press NOT (4.00)
    picked this up?  That is really pitiful.  I guess because he isn't a Hollywood celebrity.  I never really got why the press was so harsh on Al Gore.  I thought the way he was presented and depicted had much to do with Bush being able to steal the presidency.  Hope those same reporters are enjoying what destruction this administration has wraught.  
  •  GORE = Leader... (4.00)
    CHENEY = DUMBASS!
  •  gore invented hurricane relief (4.00)
    :)

    i'm proud of someone, for the first time in a while.

    "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    by Back in the Cave on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 11:04:30 PM PDT

    •  And (4.00)
      Bush is busy privatizing it, bringing business ethics into it...

      "Too many policemen, no liberty; Too many soldiers, no peace; Too many lawyers, no justice." Lin Yutang (1895-1976)

      by ogre on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 11:43:16 PM PDT

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    •  Greg Simon's account - (3.91)
      Gore said that on the second trip to New Orleans, the doctors at the airport told him that the evacuation of the first 90 ambulatory patients had been the tipping point in their ability to adequately care for the other bedridden patients.  They also noted that the military evacuations did not really pick up steam until after we "motivated" them with our private effort.  


      Of note:
      Throughout the entire operation in Tennessee, EMS operations in Chicago had stayed prepared to handle patients or evacuees.  None ever arrived because the military did not want us to use Chicago.  Mayor Daly had been rebuffed earlier when he offered a complete mobile hospital unit for the airport and a tent city as well.  Sen. Barack Obama called Gore and asked how had Gore managed to land in New Orleans when the Senator had been refused landing rights to help.

             [from theTPM Cafe rundown of the weekend]

      Does anyone besides me get the feeling that the feds did not want to accept help from Democrats?  (I won't even ask the question if they didn't want to give prompt help to Democrats; that would be unseemly of me.)

      •  GOP = Party Before Country (4.00)
        Does anyone besides me get the feeling that the feds did not want to accept help from Democrats?  (I won't even ask the question if they didn't want to give prompt help to Democrats; that would be unseemly of me.)

        I can't imagine why you'd think that.  I mean, just because every single action of the GOP over the past 10 years has shown them to prioritize "party over country"...

        I'm convinced this is the #1 reason for the Iraq War, in fact.  Oil?  They liked that.  Deposing Saddam?  They liked that too.  But the #1 reason?  To make Bush a "War President" who cannot be challenged by the other party as his cabal (Cheney & Co) grabs all the political power it can.  To hell with the national interest; these people ONLY seek the interest of amassing and wielding their own political power.

      •  p.s. thanks (none)
        Thought i'd add a "thank you", joanreports... my comment above was snarky and I direct it wholly at the current administration, not at you :-)
    •  I am proud of a Democrat politician... (4.00)
      (besides Robert C. Byrd for his courageous stand on Iraq War) for the first time in a while.

      It is why I have always, unreservedly supported Al Gore for anything he ran for.  Its about the competence.  And the caring.  And using government, science, technology and medicine for the public good.

      Heres an idea- We should get Gore to head the commission that helps redesign the City of New Orleans to rise from the swamp- Amsterdam on the Mississippi behind its top quality levees and dikes.  He knows the environmental issues and science issues- especially toxins- and he is well respected by scientists and engineers.

      Let the river run,
      let all the dreamers
      wake the nation.
      Come, the New Jerusalem.

      "Let the city of New Orleans Rise Again"

      by murrayewv on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 04:08:46 AM PDT

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      •  gore, if anyone . . . (none)
        however, if i were to speculate, i would think he is likely to be of the school of thought that it was shortsighted and irresponsible to have built a city there in the first place. we've left a nasty legacy on the delta and the gulf.

        i loved NOLA. loved the culture; the people; the music. but, now that it's been evacuated, relocated, drown, and turned into what may very well justify being deemed a giant superfund site (we'll see how the lab tests come back - i hope), i question the wisdom in rebuilding it at all.

        is there room somewhere to erect a new new orleans somewhere above sea level?

        "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

        by Back in the Cave on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 06:57:49 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Roughly Half Of The Netherlands (3.71)
          Lies below sea-level.  When a devastating storm caused a Katrina-like catastrophe in 1953, the Dutch sunk billions of dollars into an ultra-sophisticated system of outer sea barriers that has prevented another such disaster from happening in the half-century since then.  There was a report on this on the CBS Evening News last night.  I'm sure they'd be delighted to help us out on this score, if we'd be willing to admit that another nation can actually teach us something.

          "L'enfer, c'est les autres." - Jean Paul Sartre, Huis Clos

          "L'enfer, c'est le GOP!" - JJB, from an idea by oratorio

          by JJB on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 07:30:00 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  things have changed since NO was founded (none)
          The land has sunk putting more of it below sea level. You might have noticed most of the older parts of N'awlands are atill high and dry, French Quarter and Garden district.

          Importantly the barrier islands and marshlands were much more extensive, making the location more dangerous now than it was when the city was first built.

          Also the location at the bottom of the Mississippi near the gulf demanded a city to support shipping.

          SOCIAL SECURITY: Invented by Democrats yesterday, Protected by Democrats today

          by mollyd on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:17:38 AM PDT

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  •  Al Gore: Real Leadership (4.00)
    ...patriot, Democrat

    The people of New Orleans got left behind

    by diplomatic on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 11:14:08 PM PDT

  •  sigh (4.00)
    I still love Gore. Really makes me sad when I think of how much better life would be if the REAL winner of the 2000 election had inhabited the White House.  

    Bush: Always Wrong and Never in Doubt

    by Delilah on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 11:19:00 PM PDT

  •  This is the third diary (none)
    ... on this topic in the last two hours.

    And it was well diaried already last weekend.

  •  Glad you posted this (none)
    I somehow managed to miss all those other diaries on it.

    The spring is pure, but foul it once with mud and you nevermore will find it fit to drink. --Aeschylus

    by Alien Abductee on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 11:32:26 PM PDT

    •  Same here (none)
      I check Daily Kos regularly, almost obsessively at times, but even so very worthwhile diaries completely elude me. Not a complaint - there's a lot to read and talk and write about - but a thank you to the diarist for making it come come.

      I don't think that there are any Russians, and there ain't no Yanks... just corporate criminals playing with tanks. - Michael Been

      by gp39m on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:17:50 AM PDT

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  •  Al Gore, pathological liar. (3.61)
    See? The story says "about" 140 patients/evacuees! That doen't give us a real factual number! Someone (Al Gore) is just making it up! He can't help but tell lies. All the major news outlets told me so in the 2000 campaign!
    •  Yeah (4.00)
      I just had to educate a whole class of computer science students that Gore "inventing" the internet was a lie told by Dick Armey.  One of them made the tired old reference that Gore invented the internet.  It took 5 seconds on Google to debunk.  If this is the future of compsci students then we are in big trouble.

      Also, he has more to do with it than you'd think as   explained in an email from the real inventors of the internet ;)  

      So...if Bush proposed the Hydrogen car and Gore invented the internet then which are we doing:
      Surfing the net?
      or
      Driving in cars that use no oil and give water for exhaust (talk about vapor ware)

      •  As republicans, they can have it both ways... (4.00)
        As I recall at the time Gore was touting the "Information Superhighway", the Rs were snickering about how dorky an idea it was to commercialize this goofy academic network thing. Waste of taxpayers dollars, blah, blah, etc.  So they pointed fingers at him for leading the charge, and when he turned out to be right, they pointed fingers at him for having the temerity to mention that he was right.

        BTW, did you catch the line in Vint Cerf's letter:

        "As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises."

        I dont know who would want to have a President with something other than drug induced visions.

    •  Gore invented the internets (none)
      but Bush went one up on him and invented the realities we live and breath today.
    •  I see that (none)
      someone didn't recognize the sarcasm in your remark and thought you were lashing at Gore, not the wortless media, and gave you a 1. Have a 4 on me.
  •  yay (none)
    Once again, I'm proud to have voted for him.

    I would really, really, really like SOME explanation for why all of the rescue efforts had to FIGHT FEMA.  I read this over and over and over.  Why would FEMA do that????  Not enough people died already and they were hungry for blood?

    •  To be precise, the non-coordination and denials (4.00)
      came from FEMA and NDMS (National Medical Disaster Systems) and numerous military officers.

      During the day Friday, FEMA was indifferent and uncooperative and told Gore's team the evacuation was going just fine, so their help wasn't needed.  But after midnite (a new shift) one person, Julie Soutuyo of FEMA, did try to help and run interference with NDMS. But NDMS was unmovable.

  •  Those two pictures... (4.00)
    ...break my heart.

    Lord Jesus thank you for the life you've given me, and forgive me for enjoying any part of it.

    by Yama Rahyar on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 12:16:31 AM PDT

  •  First guy I ever voted for (4.00)
    And should he get the nomination, I'll vote for him again!

    John Kerry 2008, still bumperstickered, still fighting for the truth, still the one.

    by desiunion on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 12:20:11 AM PDT

    •  Me too (4.00)
      A vote for Gore in 2000 was my first vote as well.  He really would have been a good president.  he leads by example, he's humble, and oh yeah, he's extremely intelligent.  

      For want of a PR agent Gore lost the media, for want of fair and accurate media coverage Gore lost the election, for want of a leader the city of New Orleans was destroyed.  
      For want of PR agent, a city was lost.

      Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore; They're already overcrowded from Your dirty little war. - John Prine

      by Laura D on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 12:46:38 AM PDT

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      •  Gore did not lose the election (4.00)
        The full count of Florida, after the Supreme Court denied a recount and appointed Bush, showed that Gore did indeed win the state, by any manner of counting!  The news came out, I believe, right after 9/11 or so, so there was essentially no coverage of the fact that Gore won.  He, of course, won the national popular vote as well.  Gore was our elected president in 2000.

        "The election's over. We won. It's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting." Rep. Peter King (R-NY) at WH function, 2003

        by kathika on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 01:14:38 AM PDT

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        •  Awww c'mon (4.00)
          no props for being clever.  I know Gore "won" the election, everyone here knows Gore won the election.  However, Gore did lose the media and in going so he contributed to his losing the presidency.  If the media had been on his side, so to speak, then maybe more of an uproar would have been raised at the SC decision, maybe there would have been more sympathy, maybe the SC would not have decided the way it had.  Hence my nail=kingdom ripoff.

          Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore; They're already overcrowded from Your dirty little war. - John Prine

          by Laura D on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 02:28:32 AM PDT

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          •  Agreed the media was against Gore (none)
            and would have been against any Democratic candidate. Interesting how the media's jokes about the "lockbox" may have come back to haunt them now that Bush pushes Social Security privatization. You are right that the media is a huge influence in the difficulty Democrats have had getting elected in recent years. (Air America is doing its best to change that!) Also the possible/likely election fraud in states like Georgia (where Dems way ahead in the polls lost to an "upset victory" for Repubs), Florida and Ohio. I'm hoping the media will finally turn against the Repubs with the disaster of Katrina.

            "The election's over. We won. It's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting." Rep. Peter King (R-NY) at WH function, 2003

            by kathika on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 03:04:43 AM PDT

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          •  What you need to know about SCOTUS (none)
            decision is shown in a quick rundown here (scroll down). It shows at a glance why the Supreme Court decision was so pivotal (beyond the obvious of course).  I'm especially interested in #1, the prevailing statewide standard.  So it was the rules that decided the outcome.

            Of course, if not for the massive disenfranchisement and purges, it would not have mattered which rule was selected. Gore would have walked away with it.

            (And we remember which race was mostly purged, don't we?)  That's a whole 'nother story. (Or is it the New Orleans story?)

            I heard author and BBC reporter Greg Palast on NPR about a year ago:

                    It's not that Jeb Bush doesn't like black people;
                    he just doesn't like the color of their vote.

            •  A SPECIAL Request (none)
              I am not trying to start a Scotus Dec. 12, 2000 revisit thread here.   This entire diary comments-thread has a different direction, which I'd prefer we keep in that focus. That Scotus thing can belong elsewhere on a different day.

              I will make the one remark though that we need a different justice than John Roberts now. He's been on the wrong side of fights to redress discrimination, Title IX, affirmative action and voting rights.

        •  A funny WV act of defiance... (none)
          I know kathika will appreciate this, and others might get a chuckle.

          I have a friend who runs the vets center in a fairly large WV town which shall remain nameless.  I mentioned that my dkos blog had said flags should fly at half staff for Rehnquist.  He is still pissed about 2000 supreme court appointment of Bush.  Also, he said, why lower the flag for Rehnquist and not for thousands of deaths from Katrina?  So he vowed that the flag wouldn't be lowered unless the direct e-mail came through the vets center system.  Lo- it never arrived.  No one else had noticed the news announcement over Labor Day.  So he ran colors up on Tuesday and down on Friday, right next to a very busy street in town with no half staff.  

          Montani semper liberi ("Mountaineers Are Always Free")

          Go Herd!

          "Let the city of New Orleans Rise Again"

          by murrayewv on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 04:21:13 AM PDT

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  •  California Pizza Kitchen (none)

    The dark at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming age.

    by peeder on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 12:37:15 AM PDT

  •  Gore looks like shit (3.42)
    Glad to see it, means he is busting his ass working to help people and not just staging a photo op like the loser he beat in 2000.

    "Just when they think they know the answer, I change the question!" R.Piper

    by McGirk SF on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 12:54:02 AM PDT

    •  Damn (none)
      There's an awful thought. Al Gore does something fantastic for the people hurt by the hurricane and flooding, kills himself to get the job done, refuses to turn it into a PR event about himself...

      and the cable news media creeps beat him up about how awful he looks on camera and on film. Shudder. I can see that happening with the clown cars flying around Fox CNN and MSNBC's headquarters.

      **** I'm a Proud 'Fight Back in all 50 States' Democrat ****

      by LeftHandedMan on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 01:05:52 AM PDT

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      •  I haven't seen MSM talk about him (none)
        I was actully praising him in my usual snarky manner. With the MSM, I assume their being petty little bitches.

        "Just when they think they know the answer, I change the question!" R.Piper

        by McGirk SF on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 02:14:21 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, he looks rough (4.00)
      and like he's been busting his butt to get the job done, and it makes me love him more than ever before!

      "The election's over. We won. It's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting." Rep. Peter King (R-NY) at WH function, 2003

      by kathika on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 01:17:05 AM PDT

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    •  That's what "Hard Work" looks like - (3.77)
      not like a crisp blue tattersall shirt with the sleeves rolled up.
      •  If you make your personal health... (4.00)
        one of the top priorities of your presidency, and take 5 week vacations regularly, then you do look better physically.  Bush, tanned, rested and ready to be president.  And he's going to start any day now.  

        Look into the soulless eyes and vapid face of Bush vs. the pouchy eyes and tired unmade-up Al Gore coming off that plane.  And when you read the story in the link.  He made it happen because the Dr. in need, a man who had personally helped Gore and his son, called and asked for help. Gore wasn't show-boating.  He was getting the job done.  

        "Let the city of New Orleans Rise Again"

        by murrayewv on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 04:30:13 AM PDT

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    •  That's called honest sweat! (4.00)
      You ever notice that kind of sweat on Bush's brow when he's "clearing brush"? Have you ever seen Bush's face that beleaguered with honest effort? Gore's face in these pictures is the face of someone who really cares for other people. Not the shit-eating smirk behind the words Bush so ineloquently spews and the pristine photo ops he so readily poses for.

      vulgus vult decipi -- Phaedrus

      by fritzrth on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 04:47:34 AM PDT

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  •  more politics --- FLA largesse (4.00)
          Compare to the federal government's response to Florida, pre-election.

    First, here's a list summary of more than 2 dozen stories that will make your head spin.

    Here's just one sample.

    "The federal government declared Miami-Dade County a disaster area eligible for individual aid even though the storm's outer bands barely had touched the county.

    The declaration, made by President Bush at the request of Gov. Jeb Bush, has allowed more than 9,800 Miami-Dade residents to collect at least $21 million in tax-free grants and prompted calls for federal investigations into the claims. Miami-Dade officials say they didn't request the designation.

    Exactly how residents of Miami-Dade became eligible for storm relief when Frances caused little to no visible damage has been the subject of speculation ..."

  •  Al Gore (4.00)
    Goes to show you how different things would be if Gore were our Commander in Chief.

    Mike Caccioppoli
    http://MIKECFORCONGRESS.com

  •  And what do republican VPs/Pres do in retirement? (4.00)
    They sit on their asses and haul in money.  

    Can anyone see Dubya doing humanitarian missions as an ex president?   NO!

    It says a lot about Americans that they would elect a callous brute like Dubya over a genuine person like Gore - ostensibly because Dubya is more genuine than Gore (insert lie about Gore's character here).

    "The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government." -Thomas Jefferson, 1809.

    by Subterranean on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 02:09:37 AM PDT

    •  Al Gore "a serial liar," - per Karen (none)
      Hughes.
      And the press ate it up in the fall of 2000.

         One of his lies was he had met and toured a disaster site with the chief of FEMA ——  when it was really the assistant chief.  Oh what a "lie."

      And what an irony.

  •  Freep it! (4.00)
    Al Gore story on Yahoo

    Rate it, and most importantly, e-mail it to someone.  This will help get it to two of Yahoo's top lists.  As of posting this, the rating is at 4.3/5.0 stars.

  •  I'm glad Al has got his groove back (3.33)
    Before I go on, let make clear: I hate Bush, have always hated Bush, and will always hate Bush, unless some miracle comes about and souls and God exist and God restores the soul that the Devil has clearly stolen from Chimpy and he shows he cares about humans again. I could never endorse the guy. In addition, I voted for Gore and wanted him to win.

    Nevertheless, during the 2000 election, I had an uneasy feeling about Gore. I felt he was never comfortable in his own skin. There were times that I thought it was best that our party hadn't won in 2000, because although I shared Gore's values, I feared he had a personality that would have made everything bad stick to him and he would get no credit for anything good. As a result, like during Carter's, the ideals of our party would suffer as a result of people's perceiving that we were led by a milquetoast figure.

    I didn't always feel that way about Al. I remember his run in 1988 for President and hoped he would win the nomination that year. I thought he was young, smart, attractive, dynamic, hell, even charismatic. But after becoming the good soldier for Bill Clinton, heading up this and that government initiative -- Reinventing Govenrment, etc -- and doing it all well, I felt he was so angry at and felt so betrayed by Bill Clinton that he twisted himself in rage and, to his own detriment, avoided anything to do with Bubba during the 2000 election. Remember, he chose Lieberman as a statement about how he would be a departure from Clinton in terms of ethics and character. I bet Gore, in his heart, regrets having made that decision. Hell, he chose to endorse Dean over Lieberman last year, so you can be sure he regrets having made that choice in 2000.

    With this selfless act, done without the need for self-aggrandizing press contact, I get the feeling Gorfe has got his groove back and I couldn't be happier.

    •  Shame on you! (1.00)
      Idiots like you cost us 8 years of misery.
      Shame on you. You reasoning looks so stupid
      considering the other option. You helped fashists
      to destroy the country and you as evil as GOPs.
      USA will never be the same because of you. F... you
      •  There's a thread running through all of this: (none)
        the corrosive role of the corporate media.  As much as I share WeNeed3rdParty's feelings about the destructive consequences of 8 (or more) years of pseudo-fascist rule, we - and the Democratic Party - cannot afford to dismiss or deride the sort of sentiment expressed (quite thoughtfully) by John.  Image does matter in politics.  The reason why image matters is not that the American people are stupid and shallow, but that the corporate media depicts civic life in a way that is stupid and shallow.

        Media corporations are concerned primarily with selling an audience to advertisers.  We are their "product," and their programming is calibrated not only to attracting the widest audience, but to attracting the "right" target demographic for certain advertisers.  Real journalism doesn't accomplish this.  Even if we ignore for a moment the economic interests of media corporations that were at stake in the 2000 election, there was an institutional bias toward making election coverage "entertaining" and digestible (i.e. "shallow").  In the absence of civic values that would lead to coverage of actual policy issues, the story became how people [should have] "felt" about the candidates.

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        by Cool Blue Reason on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:44:52 AM PDT

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      •  I'm assuming this is snark (none)
        As I wrote in my first paragraph, I VOTED for Gore and HOPED he would win. I guess I should have made clear that in hindsight, seeing how much long lasting damage this administration has done to this country, I am glad that my SENTIMENTS about Gore not getting into office were misplaced.

        Remember, misplaced SENTIMENTS are much different from misplaced SUPPORT AND VOTING FOR another guy, thus allowing for the election of the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse (Chimpy, Cheney, Rummy, and Brownie).

        I take it from your screenname that you probably voted for Nader, said as much on this site, and have been burnt by a bit of flaming. I'm sorry about that (though, if I were still a more active member on this site, I would probably have been one of the villagers wielding a torch). But remember this: perhaps the only sin greater than helping to elect Wingnuts on this site is poorly written snark.

        •  my vote: 2000 - Gore, 2004 - Dean (none)
          I cannot vote for Nader for a simple reason, because
          he objectively cannot win and every vote for
          him will be be a vote for Bush. In 2004 I voted
          by writing-in Dean's name, but I am very upset
          by Dean trying to help to DEMs.
          DEMS are not
          fixable and they are too friendly to large
          corporations and they are not friendly enough
          with poor and working people. They even not linked
          enough to Unions and allow unions to go down
          further and further. Top DEMs (like Clinton) are
          openly pro-capitalistic. BTW, in 1996 I voted
          for Clinton for simple reason: Dole and GOPs was
          just not-acceptable. They are evil enemies of
          american people

          So your "sorry" really MISPLACED as much as your
          other SENTIMENTS (like in 2000 against Gore).

    •  I think you bought the press meme, (none)
      though I know you are remarking sincerely.

      If the press had called me a phony as many times as they called Gore that, I think I would have started thinking I was too.  It was an echo chamber, and very loud.

    •  Re:I'm glad Al has got his groove back (none)
      I bet Gore, in his heart, regrets having made that decision.

      Well, Gore was rightfully mad at Clinton. To Clinton adultery is no big deal. To Gore it is a big deal because he is a deeply moral guy and takes marriage very seriously. Like it or not that's what he is.
      Moreover there is no logic in "using" an individual during your campaign who would have no role in your administration -- as Clinton obviously wouldn't have been a member of a Gore administration.
      Also, Gore knew how to govern without Clinton's help. He had been training himself for the job for at least 30 years. He started it long before you even heard about Bill Clinton. So why should such a man "use" Bill Clinton in his prez campaign? He was his own man and for good reason.
      If Bush and Clinton had the right to run on their own so did Gore.
      And Lieberman was not pushing for the invasion of Iraq in 2000.

  •  Wow....now if (none)
    every person with money and power had done that, the people of NO would be in better shape..
  •  the measure of a man (4.00)
    [Gore] refused to be interviewed about the mercy missions he financed and flew last Saturday and Sunday.

    And that, my friends, is intergrity.  

  •  Fema in Washington's Response (TPM) (4.00)
    We were now desperate to find a contact on the ground at the New Orleans airport to help triage ambulatory medical patients into these planes.  FEMA in Washington was non responsive.  We spoke to the aide to one of the deputies at FEMA and was told they did not need or want our help since the hospital evacuation was going fine.  We looked at the reports from CNN about the conditions at the field hospital at the airport and discounted that opinion immediately.

    They did not need or want help?!!  Unbelievable.  What incompetence.

    ---
    More dangerous are the functionaries ready to believe and to act without asking questions.

    by Titian on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 05:33:33 AM PDT

    •  Remember (none)
      These are the same guys that didn't know that people were at the convention center and said that there was plenty of food at the Superdome...2 meals/day I think was Jherkoff said.

      John Roberts- You can't book a judge by his cover.

      by digital drano on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:33:31 AM PDT

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  •  Tears in my eyes (4.00)
    I am feeling so, so bitter.  It was that picture of Gore, sweating and looking determined, that did it.  I just can't stand it.  Would a Clinton-shaped FEMA, under Gore, have left New Orleans so vulnerable, in infrastructure, that all this would have happened? What if Gore had been our president, during this crisis?

    Someone put this picture of  Gore next to the one of Bush playing guitar.  Wait, I'll do it myself, if I can figure it out.

  •  Irony... (4.00)
    Remember when the Rethugs blasted Gore in the 2000 race when he said he had toured disaster areas with James Lee Witt (it turned out not to be Witt but another official at the then well-manged FEMA).  Gore made things happen as a private citizen, imagine what he would have done in his second term as president.
  •  A man of action (4.00)
    Without publicity, Al Gore proves he is the rightful leader of the United States. He takes action in the hurricane zone while the squatter-in-residence at the White House does an ill-advised fly-by aboard Air Force One.

    Somewhere, some day I have to believe that ksrma will take hold. Something just ain't right with this picture.

    One day we ALL will know the truth about the 2000 presidential election. God help us all.

    by CocoaLove on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 06:08:22 AM PDT

  •  What was Cheney doing Sept 3 & 4? (4.00)
    (nt)

    ---
    More dangerous are the functionaries ready to believe and to act without asking questions.

    by Titian on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 06:08:44 AM PDT

  •  The next ex-president (4.00)
    Can you imagine the Boy King after he leaves office going out of his way like this to save a bunch of poor people?  Just the thought makes me laugh out loud.
  •  Yo Al! (none)
    That man should be Prez right now.   Out of his won pocket no less.  Imagine what he might have accomplished 9/11?
  •  Imagine... (none)
    ... what the world would be like if the Supreme Court had not selected our current moron of a president.  In my mind the difference is striking but I guess we will never really know.

    NO 9/11
    NO War in Iraq
    Peace and Prosperity

    God help our beloved country!

  •   Gore is Class, Bush an Ass. (4.00)
    Al Gore is a credit to Tennesee and America.   It is a shame that fundamentalist wackjobs and lunatic right wingers in Tennesee voted for Bush--why didn't they trust their own Son?  
    •  "Gore is Class, Bush an Ass" (none)
      This is too good not to steal!

      I reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks in Sozadee CA.

      by The Messenger on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:03:34 AM PDT

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    •  Gore and Tennessee (none)
      Gore took Tennessee for granted.  His people here keep telling him "don't worry about Tennessee," while to many of us sat on our butts and didn't do enough.

      Bush campaigned hard in Tennessee especially in the historically Republican territory of East Tennessee. He visited Tennessee twice as much as Gore in the run-up to the election.  Plus they foisted these lies on Tennesseans: "He's not really from Tennessee he grew up in Washington. OR He's forgotten his roots."

      It was still close here.  I am ashamed that I didn't do more, as are a lot of people.  I don't think that the people here would fail Gore again and I don't think he would ever take Tennessee for granted again.

    •  Tennessee (none)
      You don't really know the vote count in Tennessee in 2000.

      Pages from poll books were torn out on Election Day.  An entire poll book went missing for hours  [Graymar voting precinct]

      Link 1   [Scroll to "Nashville insanity"]
      Link 2  [Scroll to "History repeats in Tennessee"]

      There were places people came and couldn't vote, Antioch Middle School, Graymar, etc.

      Link 3 (best) [Scroll to Tennessee Voter Empowerment Team]

      Some of these links may be redundant, I'm rushing. Link 3 has extra info, I think. Also problems in Memphis.

      See also this section, where the author wrote "How and why I became involved."  Read about Hadley Park, too.

  •  So fucked up (none)
    that the political climate is such that one must never advertise true altruism. I think I am beginning to hate America after all, Rush.
  •  I want to know WHO and WHY denied landing spots? (4.00)
    I want to know WHO and WHY denied landing spots
    to my president?
    I am sure it is not just political enemies, but
    it may be a crime to deny to people their right to
    help other people and at the same time not to
    help to people in need.

    Thank you Al! Please run in 2008!!!

    •  Read the TPMCafe article... (3.66)
      It seems to me that it was a case of FEMA and the military people freaking out about a "non-miliarty" operation encroaching on their turf.  Gore's involvement was never disclosed.  If politics were involved at all, it was probably just that the federal authorities didn't want to have their slow response and incompetence highlighted by a private effort "beating" them to the patient evacuation...

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  •  the 2000 election (4.00)
    is like a hidden abcess of pain. Whenever something like this happens that shows what we could have had, it physically hurts.

    Even taking the optimistic belief that history will spit on Bush and the country will be able to recover doesn't dull the pain. At all.

    I hope Gore runs again.

  •  You said (4.00)
    "The first VP to land in New Orleans was Al Gore".  

    That sentence reminded me that the first President to go to New York after 9/11 was Clinton.

    Two great men. God I miss them.

    GWB: best argument I know of to refute "Intelligent Design"

    by Pandora on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 07:22:27 AM PDT

  •  Al Gore remains (4.00)
    the heaviest of the Democratic heavy hitters.

    Gore's the guy, IMO, that could unit the Democratic Party, and let us all sing "Happy Days" in '08.

    Since 1988 I've voted for Al Gore for President every time Al's been on the ballot.  Except for 1996.  And then I voted for him anyway.  ;)

    Gore says he won't run in '08.  Says he doesn't want to put his family through it.  Can't blame the man.

    But I can try to change his mind!  :)

  •  Al Gore and Wesley Clark (4.00)
    what a team they would be.  Joint concerns about the environment and the global military situation - from a democratic, caring point of view.

    Dreaming, but not impossible.  The two of them can do so much good for us.

    "How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right." Black Hawk

    by Gabriele Droz on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 07:33:28 AM PDT

  •  I only wish more (none)
    Dems would have had the wherewithal to demonstrate this much leadership.

    Now if they do it, they just look like Oprah Clones.

    They should have been down there in full force--all of them-- as soon as it became apparent that the fed gov had collapsed (that was apparent to me on Tuesday, Wed at the latest).

  •  Gore-Dean 2008 (4.00)
    Our 2008 ticket should be Gore-Dean.
  •  I'm sure (4.00)
    the pictures of Dan Quayle and his humanitarian efforts will be out any day now.  You guys remember him, don't you?  Another great Republican mind!!
  •  I miss him (none)

    Most people are idiots... But don't tell them. It'll spoil all the fun for those of us who aren't.

    by d3n4l1 on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 08:50:52 AM PDT

  •  Thanks Joan, (none)
    Al Gore is my President.  I have cross-posted your diary over here at my blog.
  •  Gawddammit! (none)
    Let's re-elect Al Gore, President.

    Why didn't we think of that before?

    Jeeeezus!

    I reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks in Sozadee CA.

    by The Messenger on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:02:15 AM PDT

  •  Al Gore is Shows America (none)
    what a real leader does in an emergency:

    He takes action.

  •  Gore Said This, In the AP Story (4.00)
    about Katrina and prevention, to the Sierra Club:

    "What happened was not only knowable, it was known in advance, in great and painstaking detail," Gore told the Sierra Club's national convention. "They did tabletop planning exercises. They identified exactly what the scientific evidence showed would take place."

    Because George Bush runs a Faith-Based Government, he and his cabinet and his agency heads routinely ignore sound science and therefore behave inadequately to reality.

  •  Gore wasn't just (4.00)
    the first Vice President to visit New Orleans after the disaster.  He was the first President

    It's no crime to be poor, but they're working on it.

    by jazzmaniac on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 09:40:00 AM PDT

  •  Gore '08 (4.00)
    Al Gore needs to really run again.  I think the tide has turned for sure.  It started with Cindy Sheehan and the coffin is nailed shut on George with Katrina (IMHO).  I have no doubt Gore could win by the true majority now.
    Hope is still alive!
    jdmorg
  •  I read the TPM Cafe piece (none)
    and my head is exploding.  What the friggin' hell is wrong with those bureaucrats????  They spent SO much time and energy fighting this!  And that same scenario was played out OVER and OVER and OVER with everyone who offered help.

    Those idiot martinets fucked up so badly - and with such determination! - that we might as well give them honorary memberships in Al Qaeda.

    New Orleans will never die

    by hrh on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 10:30:02 AM PDT

  •  what could have been.... (4.00)
    Obviously Mr. Gore should rightfully be POTUS now, but the bigots, bullies and thugs ripped the Presidency out of his hands in Y2K and into Dumbya's, with results for all of us to see.  I actually had delusions last year that, if Kerry had actually pulled off a win, he could have appointed Mr. Gore to the Supreme Court when a vacancy opened up.  I think that would have suited Mr. Gore to a tee.  Of course, whether his former "colleagues" would have let him on...well, who knows.  In any case, it's tremendous that he's showing the example for people with means to help out.

    (Speaking of that, is the estate tax repeal still on the table?)

    •  My hope in '04 (3.66)
      was that Kerry as Prez would name Gore to the Cabinet as a start.  Secretary of the Interior, or Education, or an important undersecretary of State area, or something like that.  Some place where he could use his energy effectively and take charge again, and chart his course.
      •  fair point (none)
        True, Mr. Gore in any Cabinet capacity with Kerry/Edwards would have been splendid for the country.  Now, of course, all he can do is act as a private citizen, but he's doing more in that capacity than the entire Dumbya Cabinet put together.  
  •  That is what's called (4.00)
    "decisive, take-charge leadership".  Of course the media could use this as an example of how a real leader could have worked last week but they barely report it.  I''d like to see it talked about but at the same time not, Gore did it because it wa the right thing to do, not for political points or media attention.  Bless his soul.
  •  Chanelling 2000 (4.00)
    Gore responded immediately, telephoning Kline and agreeing to underwrite the $50,000 each for the two flights, although Larry Flax, founder of California Pizza Kitchens, later pledged to pay for one of them.

    GORE SAID HE'D FINANCED TWO FLIGHTS, BUT WE HERE AT [Insert name of whore media outlet] HAVE LEARNED THAT HE ONLY PAID FOR ONE OF THEM.  WILL THE VICE PRESIDENT'S PATHOLOGICAL LYING NEVER STOP!!?!??!?!??!?!!!?

    Man, Gore is so awesome for doing this.  I really, really hope he runs in 2008.  I'm struck, on reading things like this, about the two alternative tracks 2008 could take.  Either it will be a titanic struggle between liberal populists like Gore, Edwards, and Schweitzer, or it will be a bland fumble dominated by corporate pols like Biden and Hillary.  It's scary how stark the options are.

    You know what the Midwest is? Young and restless... - Kanye West

    by ChicagoDem on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 11:17:59 AM PDT

  •  More Press Coverage (4.00)
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168978,00.html
    I hear FOX news shoved a microphone in his face while he was there, and he walked away from them. Oh, does that ever warm my heart. ;-)

    http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3830341

    http://www.wate.com/global/story.asp?s=3830557

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1112...TC-RSSFeeds0312

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...L&feed=rss.news
    ~~~
     And just to a comment here: As  a Gore supporter of many years, I am so proud to know tha this man is still out here caring about people and this planet. I am also very proud that he does not use efforts such as this for hsi own personal or poltiical gain. He does it because he is a caring human being and a great American. He is letting his glory out, and again, it matters not to me at this point if he decides to evee run for polirical office again, he will always be a President to me. Again, thank you  sir. I can at least be sure that these evacuees were well taken care of.

    Americans are not "refugees."

    by Patriot for Al Gore on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 11:54:59 AM PDT

  •  Al Gore has a heart and a soul (4.00)
    and single handedly did more to help Katrina victims than the whole lot of Bush and his minions combined.

    While GW is busy praising Brownie, Cheney is being told to go fuck himself, and Laura is prancing around in a $5,000 white designer pantsuit- Gore was doing the unglamorous work of actually helping people.

    Bushco only cares about the photo op. I read somewhere the other night that at one of Bush's visits to NOLA he was interviewed standing by pumping equipment just delivered. An hour later Bush was gone and so was all the equipment. Just props apparently.

    "As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but all together, we make a mighty fist" Watanka Tatanka (Sitting Bull)

    by wild salmon on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 12:04:21 PM PDT

  •  The REAL President..... (4.00)
    acting Presidential.
  •  Gore vs. Frist? (none)
    Interesting (and wonderful!).

    Al Gore isn't upstaged by Dr./Sen./Leader Frist, also from TN. Frist played doctor at the N.O. airport.

    Did Gore's airlift take place before he knew Frist was down there playing doc, or did Frist have to scurry to make sure his "hurricane creds" equaled Gore's?

    Gore vs. Frist in 2008? Splitting Tennessee? Whoa!

  •  Character reveals itself (3.66)
    in action.

    Democrats could step forward, as the Party of ACTION -- while the Repubs scurry to cash whatever remaining checks for pilfered contracts they still have in the pipeline.  (And offshore their loot.)

    With all the crisis we have ahead of us -- oil, unemployment, rebuilding, inflation, new relations with Islam -- the opportunity to  REORGANIZE and PRIORITIZE

    -- our economy and its productive abilities
    -- ownership rights and RESPONSIBILITIES
    -- healthcare system
    -- education
    -- Military-Political Complex

    lies fully screaming ahead of us.

    And, as we've seen dramatically on TV, the cost of neglect IN EACH OF THESE AREAS is in lost lives.

    CLEAN SWEEP.
    CLEAN SWEEP.
    CLEAN SWEEP.

    Let OPERATION CLEAN SWEEP begin now.

    If a thousand men were not to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State...

    by HenryDavid on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 12:32:27 PM PDT

  •  Where was Kerry? (none)
    Kerry may have just had the sensible reaction that, even here, too many cooks spoil the soup. But he has training operating boats on rivers under terrible conditions under fire. I sort of hope a story surfaces about Kerry being down in New Orleans.
  •  I have racked my mind since 2000, (none)
    wondering what the hell is wrong with this country?

    Why is Al Gore not President? Why have people abandoned "common sense"? Why are these fools blindly following Bush off a cliff and trying to take the rest of us with them? Shame on the US, we are reaping what has been sowed, Bushmob failures.

    Gore should run and reclaim his Presidency, it is the only way we can win and then SAVE this country from the fools that have hijacked Democracy. "Gore/Clark 2008...The only way to Save America"!

    "These guys are biggest bunch of lying crooks I have ever seen" John Kerry

    by alnc on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 03:18:24 PM PDT

  •  Now THAT'S my president!! (4.00)
  •  How Fitting! (none)

    Al Gore's reaction should have been that of every well-off American, more or less.

    Double props for his not making it a photo-op.  Gore, let's recall, is a Baptist, and Jesus said, "When ye give alms, do not do as the hypocrites do . . ."

    Al Gore is a hundredfold manlier, more Christian, and more the public servant than Monkey-Boy.  Bush isn't morally fit to shine Al Gore's shoes.

    "I need you near, but love and duty called you someplace higher. Up the stairs. Into the fire." (Springsteen)

    by proudtinfoilhat on Sat Sep 10, 2005 at 04:26:38 PM PDT

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