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J.D. Guckert/Jeff Gannon: These Are Your Lives!

Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:44:52 AM PDT

(Open source journalism at its finest -- kos)

By Susan Gardner and Todd Johnston
ePluribus Media

January 26, 2005 ...

"Yes, sir?" says the President of the United States.

"Jeff Gannon," four rows from the commander in chief, two years from his first White House press briefing and less than three years from his office job at an auto body repair shop, is one half-minute from blowing it.

Gannon, AKA James Dale Guckert, is about to ask the question that will strip the mask off who and what he is, crash fictitious "news outlet" Talon News and kick start demands in Congress for investigations into national security, White House access and definitions of media that are implied by his very presence in that room.

But Wait!

Before he asks that question ... Did we just say ... an auto body repair shop?

Yes, it's true. Guckert's path to the president reads like a modern-day fairy tale on steroids. In less than twelve months, Guckert was catapulted from the position of office manager of family-owned and operated Karmak, Inc., in West Chester, Pennsylvania, to the White House briefing room, with a quick - but thus far unverified beyond Guckert's claim - two-day seminar at the Leadership Institute's Broadcast Journalism School.

Meteoric doesn't begin to describe such a rise.

Nothing in his professional resume would lead one to predict he'd be rubbing elbows with the cream of the American press corps, with unprecedented exceptions made for press pass qualifications, so that he could - on what must be the longest "day pass" ever - help the president out in a pinch or give predictable oral op/eds disguised as questions at hundreds of press briefings.

Nothing would predict that an avidly partisan website, GOPUSA, run by a couple of well-connected Texas Republicans, would go to the lengths of creating an entire "news" agency - Talon News - simply to justify Guckert's non-qualified presence at briefings.

Let's take a look at that resume.

Landscaping. A public teacher's certificate. Office jobs. Two decades of kicking around the liquor distribution business in Pennsylvania and Delaware, and then ... leaving a friend's auto body shop in January 2002, to resurface in November of the same year as "Jeff Gannon," the "Conservative Guy," in a short, unpromising commentary on an obscure web site. And less than three months later, he would sit in the White House, Row D, center orchestra. Nice seat.

Some of the stretches of Guckert's life are still quite sketchy - the late 1980's and early 1990's, for one; and the pivotal period of giving notice at Karmak in December 2001 and popping up during the ensuing year as a publicly fictional "conservative guy," for another. And where his now well-known moonlighting career as a pornography webmaster and advertised escort on the internet intersects with his official resume leads to more suggestive questions than concrete answers.

Part of the oddity of Guckert's life is not only that his official resume in no way prepared him for the White House, but that he created not just one, but two, diametrically opposed personas in the past few years - "Jeff Gannon," the conservative guy who fell in line with the "Gods, guns and gays" Rovian talking points and spread them like a virus throughout cyberspace, and "Bulldog" (or "Jeff" or "Lou"), gay escort and pornography webmaster.

A detailed timeline of what is known at this point of Guckert's varied careers is appended to this piece. The lion's share of this is based on public records and interviews with former employers. A much smaller portion is based on two anonymous sources - one who knew him during college and immediately thereafter, and one who encountered Guckert when he served as alumni advisor to his old college fraternity.

Let the narrative of the two lives begin, so far as our triple verification process will take us.

The Lives of James D. Guckert and Jeff Gannon

A 1975 graduate of Conneaut Lake High School in Pennsylvania, Guckert attended West Chester University, graduating in 1980 and obtaining an Instructional Level I teaching certificate for Social Studies from the state of Pennsylvania. Whether he actually used his certificate to teach is unclear; a later employer recalls Guckert referring to teaching in the Wilmington, Delaware, area, possibly at high school level, but we have not yet been able to verify this.

During college, he was a member and officer of Tau Kappa Epsilon, MA #248, a Mu Alpha TKE. His fraternity affiliation was important enough to him that two decades later, he played a role in revitalizing West Chester University's TKE chapter, and his continued connection with the group is well-documented in its alumni association records.

According to one anonymous source, Guckert did indeed fulfill student teaching requirements during his time at West Chester, and in the summer after graduation, he went to work for Herb Plankinton, a landscape architect from a prominent and well-connected family in the Mendenhall, Pennsylvania, area. (Plankinton died in 1992.) It was during this period that Randy McFarland, future owner of Karmak, says that he met Guckert, when the two worked as landscape laborers for Plankinton and struck up the friendship that lasted until Guckert left Karmak for Washington, D.C., in 2002.

McFarland recalls that throughout the mid- to late 1980's, Guckert and he worked on various landscaping jobs together in Delaware.

In addition to these outdoor odd jobs, Guckert began to work for various liquor distributors in Pennsylvania and Delaware. Because the distribution industry is rife with subsidiaries, split-offs and reformations, it's not entirely clear where one entity leaves off and another begins, and we hope to clarify with further research. What know for certain that Guckert listed himself in a 1984 TKE directory as operations manager for NKS Distributors in New Castle, Delaware, and that Brenda Hall of Century Wine & Spirits (formerly NKS ... see the confusion?) confirmed that he worked there "long ago." It appears from various public records that he worked for NKS or one of its subsidiaries at least through 1987 and quite possibly beyond.

Whoever his official employer at the time, Guckert began having trouble paying his taxes. For the four years from 1991 to 1994, he failed to pay personal income tax in the state of Delaware, for a total of nearly $9,500 in unpaid taxes. With fines and penalties making his total owed bill a whopping $20,742.40, Delaware filed a lien against him in October 1996.

Documented bad luck continued to dog Guckert. In June of 1997, he was in a car accident that resulted two years later in the filing of a personal injury lawsuit that named him as a defendant along with liquor distributor Diamond State Distributors. While we await the slow process of getting the archived documentation from Delaware, we can verify the basic outlines of the lawsuit through a courthouse source who read the docket information to us over the phone: two plaintiffs, one of whom settled early. and another who, after failed mediation resulted in official lawsuit filing, settled during trial.

And yes, it's still unclear whether Diamond State is part of another company (NKS denies any relationship) or one in which possibly Guckert was a "partner."

What is certain is that he was hired as office manager in late 1997 by yet another liquor distributor, Viva Vino of Eddystone, Pennsylvania. Founder Levino Razzi said that Guckert explained he was unemployed because a business in which he was a partner had been sold. Razzi commented that he was never sure whether Guckert was really part owner of the business in question; he wasn't even certain that it had really been sold, rather than just shutting down.  

Razzi's uncertainty about Guckert's situation prior to his arrival at Viva Vino is an example of a recurring theme with those who knew Guckert. As with many of Guckert's explanations - evidenced by his biography on conservativeguy.com - information seems specific until you start looking hard for verifiable details, and often only after people try to remember specifics about the man do they realize how vague he was about the details of his life.

Whatever the real story of how Guckert came to be unemployed, Razzi was never anything but pleased with the decision to hire him; he characterizes Guckert as an exemplary employee. When contacted last week, Razzi seemed genuinely shocked by the revelations surfacing about Guckert's internet double life, finding it completely at odds with the man he thought he knew. He even remarked that Guckert more than once brought a woman to the occasional office party. He was always polite, efficient, well-spoken and he never hit on anyone in the office, according to Razzi.

During his two-year tenure at Viva Vino, Guckert reconnected with TKE, his fraternity at West Chester. The Mu Alpha chapter lost its charter in 1989, but in 1996 it gained status as a colony, becoming a fully chartered chapter in 1998, at which point former TKE Mu Alpha members stepped in. Alumni meeting newsletters and official minutes show Guckert taking leading roles in revitalizing the group, helping the chapter set up a website and even - at the same time the tax lien hung over his head - donating hundreds of dollars to the group while serving as alumni advisor to current undergraduates. At one point, Guckert served as mentor to the TKE equivalent of a chaplain, a position he'd also held as an undergrad.

A former TKE member who wishes to remain anonymous was a student at the time and knew Guckert during this advisory period, which ended only with Guckert's departure for the nation's capital. His recollections of Guckert follow:

JD was the advisor until 2001, when he made the move to Washington, DC. I believe he was the advisor from around 1998 to that time.

The alumni advisor is someone who was an undergrad member of the fraternity, has graduated, and basically acts as an intermediary between various alumni groups that exist (group that owns the fraternity house, group that organizes alumni outings/events, etc.), as well as giving guidance as to the direction that the undergraduate members of the fraternity are moving. He would typically advise on risk management issues, especially since West Chester University is a dry campus and fraternities are not permitted to serve alcohol at our parties. JD would also intercede with the university should the fraternity get in any kind of real trouble, and the same held true for the town of West Chester.

He would typically be around for Sunday meetings, as well as "pop in" the frat house a few times per week to check up on us and just kind of "hang out." Generally he was a good guy to have around in those days, but once he left for DC he never really came back except for homecoming every fall, and last year [2004] he didn't make it up at all.  

He rarely talked about what he studied in school, though he did say it was education once or twice before, maybe Phys Ed if memory serves. I don't think that he ever mentioned actually using his degree either. He only ever said that he served in the Marines, and the "semper fi" bumper sticker and license plate frame was a tip-off as well. I guess we always assumed that it was after college that he enlisted, but again, he rarely talked about that aspect of his life either.

He also said that he would need security clearances for the DC  job. The only job he ever mentioned to any of us was as a "contract negotiator" with a defense subcontractor. He never said what the name of that company was, although at this point I don't even believe that it was true.

As I have been sitting here for the past month or so watching the story unfold, I have begun to realize that much of JD's life has been hidden from the people he claimed to be closest to. In talking with other alumni who are familiar with him, all of this as come to a big shock to them as well. No one ever expected any of this, especially the "internet life" that he apparently led. I think I started to see something wasn't quite right when I saw him, on several occasions, in the White House Press Room asking questions under what I knew to be a fake name. The real shocker came with the Joe Wilson question where he committed (in my opinion) outright treason by revealing Valerie Plame. I'm not sure what, if anything, you can make of the info I have, but I hope something does come of it. Personally, I am just glad that an outlet other than CNN, FOX, et al is around to bring this story to the surface.

Interesting, yes, that bolded portion of our source's email correspondence? While we continue to pursue this lead, keep in mind that Guckert has a pretty well-documented history of vague and exaggerated (and often only implied) claims in several arenas, from journalism credentials to ... well, personal attributes.

Back on the job front, Guckert gave notice at Viva Vino in March 1999, and Razzi said it came with the explanation that he was tired of office work and wanted a change - odd in light of the fact that Guckert promptly became Karmak's office manager, but diplomatically understandable given that Randy and Amy McFarland, longtime friends, asked for help getting their new auto body repair venture off the ground. (Razzi says he and his former employee continued something of an informal business arrangement "for about a year or so," as Guckert continued to service accounts that had been "his" at Viva Vino.)

And so began Guckert's final official career position before showing up as "Jeff Gannon" at the White House.

When the McFarlands decided to launch Karmak in April 1999, they felt themselves fortunate to be able to bring in an old and trusted friend to manage the office. They say he more than fulfilled their expectations of him, overseeing the accounting and scheduling aspects of the fledgling business. During the two-and-a-half years that he worked with the couple, they report, Guckert's personal life and politics were never discussed. They say they Guckert didn't tell them of his future employment or plans when he gave notice in December 2001, and say that they have had no contact with him since he left Karmak for Washington, D.C., in January 2002.

Bedrock Corporation

Guckert's Bedrock Corporation, founded in April 1997, is something of a mysterious entity on several levels. It fits into Guckert's life arc in the period right before the Diamond State Distributor car accident and about half a year before he arrived at Vina Vivo. (Much of this becomes clearer on the appended timeline.)

Bedrock appears in several locations on the internet and in several different manifestations: as a court reporting service, a factoring agent, a secretarial agency and a resume-writing service. Yet we've been unable to obtain evidence - any evidence at all - that Bedrock ever actually provided these services. Calls made to practicing court reporters in the Wilmington area turn up no one familiar with Guckert or Bedrock, and no one can verify any sort of factoring activity undertaken by it. (For those unfamiliar with factoring, a layman's explanation: a factoring agent purchases a company's accounts receivables at discount in order to collect at full price, pocketing the difference as profit.)

The corporation appears to have remained dormant until August 1999, when Guckert began paying a web designer through Bedrock to create internet escort sites, as documented at Americablog last month. Ironically, the corporation also is the official domain registrant for Guckert's primary right-wing political web sites. So the conservativeguy.com (created October 2000) and jeffgannon.com (created June 2002) slept in the same web bed as hotmilitarystuds.com.

Additionally, there's the tangential mystery of Bedrock's official registered agent/incorporator, one "Regina Cephas," who, according to an article in the Augusta Chronicle, was sued by the Salt Lake Olympics Committee for cybersquatting on Olympic domain names and - hold on to your hats here - turned out to be a fictitious individual in her own right, another pseudonym in this tangle.

There's so much left to be explored, it makes our collective ePluribus Media head hurt. This is but one example.

Back to 2002

So in December 2001, Guckert shows up for work at Karmak one day with the announcement that he's moving to Washington, D.C., to pursue his interest in politics. No job is mentioned that awaits him, according to the McFarlands. No plans are discussed.

He moves and creates so little trace of himself - at least as J.D. Guckert; there's more than enough of "Jeff Gannon" all over the internet - that even now, three years later, no residential address turns up for him in D.C.

Hmmm.

Logic would dictate that some crucial encounter or intersection of interests converged in the latter half of 2001 that spurred Guckert's career-changing (and name-changing) move, but at this point, we may only speculate. So we move on to the little that we do know about the crucial year of 2002, before he emerged from his chrysalis to become a White House correspondent for GOPUSA.

Keeping in mind that from 1999 up until a month ago, Guckert was actively advertising himself as a gay escort, it's possible that a portion of his life in 2002 was spent ... well ... escorting - especially given the fact that not one other visible trace of employment during this period can be located.

But what about his "Jeff Gannon" life? What was happening there?

In January, he registered theconservativeguy.com and in March he established an attached Paypal account. In June, jeffgannon.com was registered, and a month later, at a rally promoting the Pledge of Allegiance, he claimed on conservativeguy.com to have been filmed reciting the pledge (exciting stuff, that). Then nothing until November, when things began to pick up.

November 12 was a busy day. "Jeff Gannon" published the earliest commentary we have yet to find, a flat, short, not exactly promising piece at the Conservative Monitor, and he also received a customer testimonial describing his $200/rate and penis size. Then eight days later, another "Jeff Gannon" piece appeared, this one on opinionseditorials.com. A "Conservative Guy" article was run on the intellectualconservative.com website on Dec. 18, 2002, and then five days later, Jeff Gannon aired his first webcast on theconservativeguy.com.

Merry Christmas.

Two weeks later, in January 2003, Jeff Gannon showed up at his first State Department press conference, and a month later - wearing a GOPUSA identification tag around his neck - he can be spotted sitting in the briefing room at the White House, live and in color thanks to [CSPAN 31:53 on CSPAN RealVideo archive]. On March 29, 2003, Talon News registers its domain name and on April 1, it goes live.

... January 26, 2005

Fast forward through hundreds of day passes and scores of partisan "Gannon" queries to the fateful day of the infamous question. You know, the one where he strafes the Democratic leadership and President Bush succumbs to a snicker. First, a long preamble, jumbled in with a made-up stolen quote from Rush Limbaugh, and then the final, jarring phrase that brought a firestorm of scrutiny down upon him, his "news" agency and White House vetting standards:

"Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the U.S. economy. Harry Reid was talking about soup lines, and Hillary Clinton was talking about the economy being on the verge of collapse. Yet, in the same breath, they say that Social Security is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you said you're going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Mr. "Gannon," take a deep breath. You're about to get "googled."

Where Do We Go from Here?

We dig some more. We try and come up with the "close encounter" from 2001 that led to change of residency and name. We try and find his D.C. address. We try and find out if/when he attended the Leadership Institute. We interview anyone and everyone who knew him at any point in the past thirty years.

One of the challenges of investigating a key player in an issue such as this, is that it is easy to lose sight of the individual at the heart of it. The thrill of the chase - of turning up information that was clearly meant to be hidden, of teasing out the detail that begins to make sense of a surfeit of leads - can dull empathy for the real, breathing human being on the receiving end. As remedy, we'd also like to focus in the future on who Guckert is as a person, on Guckert as a friend, colleague, relative (and if he'd grant us an interview or answer our questions, how he sees himself).

Admittedly, few of us could withstand this, such targeted scrutiny, and come up clean. To handle such an onslaught with grace or dignity would be a trial to anyone.

But there's no disregarding that he's also a symbol, a symbol that represents some things gone seriously awry in this country in the past few years. He also is a process, as a person who was plucked from relative obscurity to sit in the White House, to blur the ever more smudged line between partisan propraganda and true fact-gathering and reporting. Getting the carefully crafted message out has become more important than making sure the message is true or complete.

We are a country that's been stretched to the breaking point with lies. With omission of facts. With government-funded fake news reports. With paid pundits. With people who are not who or what they say they are. With motives that are rarely straightforward and with end runs around legal processes, whether they be Florida judicial decisions or the Geneva Conventions.

James Dale Guckert is part of something much bigger than perhaps even he imagined. Getting to the bottom of who he really is, how he got preferential treatment and why in particular he was chosen is vital, we believe, to begin the shearing of the wool that's been pulled over the eyes of our democracy.

The Absolutely Essential J.D. Guckert Timeline

June 1975: Graduates from Conneaut Lake High School.

1975-June 1980: Attends West Chester College (now West Chester University) and joins TKE fraternity. He is given #248 on the chapter member scroll.

August 1, 1980: Is awarded Instruction I teaching certficate in social studies by PA (PA Department of Education).

1980-mid-1980's: Works for landscape architect Herb Plankinton, meets Randy McFarland, future owner of Karmak.

1984: Lists "N.K.S. Distributors" as his employer in the TKE alumni directory.

1986-1987: Plays for a bar's team in the City of Brotherly Love Softball League (Philadelphia Gay News)

1991-1994: Earns income, fails to pay Delaware state income taxes.

October 18, 1996: Tax judgment filed for failure to pay Delaware state income tax over a multi-year period.

April 10, 1997:Bedrock Corp. incorporates in Delaware.

June 26, 1997: Car accident occurs that will result in lawsuit two years later, with Guckert and Diamond State Distributors listed as defendants. (Case No. 99C-06-215).

Late 1997: Viva Vino Imports hires Guckert as office manager.

March 1999: Gives notice at Viva Vino, continues working with old accounts there for a year or so.

April 1999: Starts working for Karmak as office manager.

August 31, 1999: First invoice for porn site. Name used is "Jeff." (Warning: link not work safe.)

September 27, 1999: GOPUSA.com registered (whois)

November 10, 1999: Guckert listed as "new" on a Philadelpha escort service, using the pseudonym "Lou".

February 23, 2000: Guckert's underwear photo uploaded to personal page at AOL.

March 30, 2000: Last of invoices for porn site design. (Warning: link not work-safe.)

May 11, 2000: Guckert's militaryescortsm4m.com domain registered (whois).

August 9, 2001: BEDROCKcorp@aol.com PayPal account created. Two verified buyers since then. (PayPal).

August 25, 2001: Date on customer review with nude photo. (Warning: Link not work-safe.)

October 31, 2001: usmcpt.com first recorded as live. One photo is named "jeff.jpg" (Warning: link not work safe.)

December 2001: Guckert gives notice at Karmak, says he's moving to Washington, D.C., to pursue political interests.

January 2002: Quitting Karmak, Mr. Guckert goes to Washington.

January 25, 2002: theconservativeguy.com domain registered (whois).

March 11, 2002: Paypal account for conservativeguy.com  created (Paypal).

May 11, 2002: studfiles.com profile last modified.

May 11, 2002: workingboys.net profile last modified. (WARNING: link not work-safe.)

June 17, 2002: jeffgannon.com domain registered (whois).

July 16, 2002: Posts page about attending Pledge of Allegiance rally.

July 19, 2002: jdg17@aol.com paypal account registered (paypal).

November 12, 2002: Customer testimonial posted describing $200/hour rate and penis size.

November 12, 2002: Opinion piece by "Jeff Gannon" published in the Conservative Monitor.

November 20, 2002: "Jeff Gannon" article  posted to opinioneditorials.com.

December 18, 2002: Article published under moniker "The Conservative Guy."

December 18, 2002: First posts to Boot To the Skull as "Jeff Gannon" but uses "theconservativeguy" as a file name. Note that this link will give you a page from the wrong date half the time.)  

December 23, 2002: Guckert makes first webcast.

January 13, 2003: Guckert attends State Dept. briefing.

Jan 15, 2003: Byline "Jeff Gannon" first appears on gopusa.com web site (site since scrubbed).

February 2003: Guckert on CSPAN in White House.

February 2003-January 2005: Lots of documented over-the-top biased questions; hundreds of crappy "Talon News" articles posted.

January 26, 2005: The Question. The beginning of the end.

ePluribus Media Credits

Investigators: Todd Johnston, Tex Macrae, blogslut and Aguas De Marco

Researchers/Contributors: chewy, mkt, rayne today, kfred, intranets, sawcielackey, susie dow, highacidity, thebes, INMINYMA, biblio, mordalar, madhat, steve expat, bonobo, georgia10, shepdog, 4fx, notamandate, wanderindiana, standingup, doorguy, NYBri, silence, mollyd

Magnificent Timeline Guru: silence

[NOTE: This is one of the last diaries coming out of the Propagannon project that will publish under user name SusanG. One more diary will go up soon as a SusanG diary, but after that, the Propagannon project will switch officially to posting under the DKos user name, ePluribus Media. This will serve to begin separating our mammoth investigative process - which now encompasses so much more than Gannon - from the persona of Gannon/Guckert himself (and the persona of SusanG as well). SusanG will post diaries from time to time on topics not related to the investigative work at ePluribus Media. All ePluribus Media projects will have bylines and credits to investigators and researchers who worked on the topic of the story.]

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  •  It takes an e-village ... (4.00 / 225)

    to create a story like this. We made our best effort to include everyone who contributed, but we may have left someone off the list.

    If we forgot you, don't be bashful! Speak up! We want to include your name.

    Kudos to the incredible, hard-working researchers and volunteers who made this happen, and to Lynn S, our webmistress at Propagannon who provided the place for it to happen.

    •  Great work by many hands (4.00 / 73)

      This is great work by many people.  Exactly the principle behind ePluribus Media.

      IMO, this research tells us two things:

      • Nothing in JD's resume would begin to prepare him for the kind of work he was doing as a member of the "press."  No writing experience, no journalism background, no TV or radio work, nothing.  In fact, he had very few exceptional talents, except, apparently, one.  The conclusion at which one is forced to arrive, is someone had to help him get this job.  (this administration never hires anyone, unless you are well connected and loyal.  That is their MO) The question this begs is, WHO helped him?  WHO did he "know?"

      • This narrows the time frame of when he "met" that someone.  SInce he gave notice in  December, 2001, logic dictates there was an "event" where he "met" this someone in the fall of 2001.  He moved to Washington  and lived at an address never registered to his name, which implies he moved in with someone.  More conjecture here, but I bet it was with the someone he "met," or some who that person knew.  It was during this time he was groomed to be "Jeff Gannon," really bad White House correspondent.

      Why is all this important?  Not to find out more about Gannon.  Who really cares.  Besides, all the pub gives him more reason to act the victim.  It's to find out about the "event" and the identity of who he "met."

      "What was the event, and who else was involved?"

      This is the next step to the White House.  I want to know who held the door open for him at the White House.  We find that, we can make a serious inroad into the hypocritical propaganda machine.  Essentially, this is what the hiring of JD was saying,

      "Let's hire this totally unqualified, gay person based upon my sexual relationship with him, to come into the White House to further the gay-bashing  agenda of the christian right."  IMO.

      Let me ultra clear.  The fact that JD is gay holds no importance in my life or is it any of my business.  Personally, I support equal rights for all Amercian citizens.  ALL.  No qualifiers.  The only reason this aspect of his resume is germane, is because of his role in the political debate.

      •  asdf (4.00 / 2)

        G/G's sexual preference is irrelevant.  G/G's prostitution is very relevant.  However, proving prostitution will be nearly impossible, since there is probably no money trail.  Gannon and his partners might claim that all interactions were consentual, a private matter.

        Halliburton: the bucks stop there.

        by YankInUK on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:19:19 AM PDT

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        •  Even consensual interactions can be relevant (4.00 / 2)

          ....if "pillow talk" or influence can be demonstrated to have had an impact on public affairs (i.e., his WH press cred, the Plame business).

          See the interest in Paul Wolfowitz's extra-or-post marital relationship, which is both heterosexual and apparently consensual.

          The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

          by sidnora on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 07:00:37 AM PDT

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          •  The thing about Prostitution (4.00 / 2)

            Is that it is mostly a source of short-term emergency money by people who don't have regular income. This fits some of GG's periods as I read the story above.

            Consider it desperation or perhaps a gamble on hitting it big.

            GG does not strike me as one of America's big winners in life.

            Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

            by Rick B on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 11:22:51 AM PDT

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        •  in any case (none / 0)

          A trick might come forward with testimony, who knows? And the Washington Times did a series of articles in 1989 that unraveled and dissected a late-'80s D.C. prostitution ring. Carbon copies of credit card transactions were a major element of those stories, so a money trail isn't out of the realm of possibility.

          In any case, responsible people have said, not that JDG is or was a prostitute, but that he claimed to be one and widely and publicly advertised himself to be one. This has been abundantly and redundantly verified.

      •  If you believe Gannon (4.00 / 2)

        And I'm not saying you should, but if you believe him it was 9/11 that caused him to move to DC. So IF that's true, we might ask what would take 2 months to set up (until he gave notice). And we might ask why someone would want to hire a gay-bashing fake reporter in the context of 9/11.

        This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

        by emptywheel on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 07:11:23 AM PDT

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        •  9/11 does not explain this (4.00 / 3)

          1. Even if you accept for a moment that the "defining event" was simply 9/11, this still does not explain how Guckert got into the White house. A lot of people made life/career-changing decisions as a result of 9/11, but somehow that did not involve a meteoric rise to power and privilege. Instead, a lot of these people enlisted in the army and later ended up in caskets.

          2. So, explain this - a guy that has been in the military responds to 9/11 in such a strong way that he decides to change his life completely. And what does he do - does he (re-)enlist in the military, in any position that he could be most useful with his apparent prior military experience - no - instead he decides to go into politics and (continue with) military-themed porn websites and escort jobs.

          Sorry, any way you look at his 9/11 story, it sounds fishy.
          •  It might (4.00 / 4)

            First, he probably wasn't in the military. I asked the same question--why didn't he re-enlist--but that seems moot now that the Marines have no memory of him.

            But the reason why 9/11 might explain Gannon's career change is that it might explain why GOPUSA decided it needed a White House "correspondant." Or it might explain why GOPUSA was doing what it was doing in the first place. Or it might explain why the White House found a need for a ringer in the press corps. Or it might explain why the White House has engaged in a policy of deceit of the media for a very long time.

            In other words, if Gannon came to DC in response to someone's bidding or as part of a larger program, then it is worthwhile remembering that it was started in "response" to 9/11.

            This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

            by emptywheel on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 10:44:47 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  As long as we are speculating (4.00 / 4)

              GOPUSA is a Houston-based operation. Talon has had an open invitation to simply submit a sample of your writing if you want to work as a volunteer.

              9/11 may have encouraged the guy who ran GOPUSA to take on a Washington person, and I can see GG having previously submitted a sample and being willing to move. Right ideology, right place, right time. (Pun intended.)

              In management decision-making it is called the garbage can method of decison-making. There are solutions floating around, and there are problems floating around, and sometimes someone connects two of them, puts them together and implements the solution.

              Leads to all kinds of erroneous conspiracy theories. [grin]

              Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

              by Rick B on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 11:33:34 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

          •  This Chickenhawk admin had military FANTASIES (4.00 / 4)

            ... but as their and even their own Great Leader's history show, a decided aversion to actual service.

            In that context, dressup and sex in military drag makes total sense (and dollars too.) War porn, porn porn, same diff with these guys.

        •  9/11 (none / 1)

          Reading the timeline, it seems like 9/11 could be important. But it may have been important to his benefactor instead of to JG himself.
      •  Are we certain that JD (4.00 / 2)

        was not in the military? There seems to be a gap in his resume in the early 80s.

        I have not followed this story compulsively but I think that I read that there was a discrepancy about records of his military service. I think that I read that military.com reported that he did serve and I think that I read that Kossacks have unable to find documentation to this effect. Isn't Military.com essentially another outlet for the Republican Noise Machine, don't they mostly run wire stories from UPI and the Washington Times. If so, why does the right want have it appear that JD served in the Marines? How does that advance their agenda?

        Do we have a clear picture about his service yet? I think that it would be important to know that he did not serve.  This would make the "Bulldog" persona entirely fictional, sort of like a BDSM "role". Maybe he was using Bulldog to sort of dissociate his personality in order to endure the debasement of this whoring.

        If Bulldog was a dissociated self then "Jeff Gannon" might be also a product of the same process. This would suggest to me that JD was long experienced with dissociation and that he was probably sexually abused as a child. It could suggest that the Jeff Gannon persona might also be another way for JD to  identify with his abuser. One could view Bulldog and Jeff Gannon, conservative media whore, as essentially the same character.

        I know that I am indulging in a lot of speculation but I think that specualtion can go a way towards suggesting some of his as of yet hidden motivations.

        If you have got a boss, you need a union. Read www.purpleocean.org/blog/

        by BartBoris on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:04:36 AM PDT

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      •  Just a hunch... (4.00 / 2)

        There might be one thing in JD's resume worth looking further at; his work as somekind of a mentor/organizer/fixer at the fraternity. It's just a hunch. That part of his resume really jumped at me. It might be worth looking into that fraternity more. Did he develop any significant contacts while at the fraternity?

        So far, Excellent work ePluribus!

        Restore Democracy! Denounce the GOP (Georgie's Orwellian Party)!

        by high5 on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:12:10 AM PDT

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      •  The 'Groomer' Guckert 'Met' (none / 1)

        I'm not speculating here when I say that his groomer was obviously Dino Ironbody.

        The plural of anecdote is not data.

        by bobinson on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 01:35:31 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  FIND THE PATRON! (4.00 / 2)

        I've been harping on this ad nauseum, I know, but this really is the key.  

        I'm curious that the timeline leaves off the Leesburg VA "orgy" Christmas party at which some pix of Guckert surfaced.  Since we need to explore how/where he met his Patron, this avenue should not be left unexplored simply because of its salacious nature.

        Also, Guckert's Patron at some point had to put him in touch both with Bobby Eberle and White House press contacts.  My continuing suspicion -- totally without supporting facts -- is that Bruce Eberle may very likely be involved.

        Fuzzy only works for pets.

        by NotFuzzy on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 01:58:04 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  read the question (none / 0)

          that he asked to find the patron. Is it plausible that the "reporter" wrote the question himself? It's more likely someone wrote it for him. Who has the same style? Uses the same idioms?
        •  Leesburg T-Shirt. (none / 1)

          Remember that the picture that has been published of Guckert/Gannon at the '98 Christmas party in Leesburg shows him wearing a t-shirt with a Marine Corps logo.

          The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

          by lysias on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:14:23 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  SusanG - I am in awe of you ---- n/t (none / 0)

        "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

        by sara seattle on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 11:07:25 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  I suggest a new verb: TO GUCK, meaning... (none / 0)

        ...creating fake news, as in, "This broadcast was so gucked-up!" or, "I can't gucking believe this!"
      •  Left out of the timeline (none / 0)

        Time line doesn't mention the Christmas orgy party that Guckert/Gannon attended in Leesburg, VA in a t-shirt with a Marine Corps logo.

        Also, Plankinton died in 1992, was there any info on the cause of death?

        http://www.epluribusmedia.org/donate.htm

        by Soma on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 05:17:10 AM PDT

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    •  Great work (4.00 / 2)

      It sounds like you are only a degree or two away from the missing link in this case. Keep at it.  The more we all learn, the more likely someone will have the lightbulb go on that cracks it wide open.
    •  Plame Diary: Guckert's stellar resume (4.00 / 2)

      This is one of the CategoryPlame Diaries.  Check out the CategoryPlameAssignment subsidiary diaries.
    •  Susan and Team--America owes You! (3.33 / 3)

      I have one comment.

      Gannon/Guckert, his rise mirrors the rise of our brain dead commander in chief.

      Only Bush got everything from Poppy.

      Bush is a worthless pain of shit , not qualified to run an auto body shop.

      Could we all imagine what and where Bush would be today if his name weren't Bush?

    •  ePluribus Media. Would you like to you help? (4.00 / 4)

      Many hands make light work.

      This is true of the stories, and it is true of support.  

      The journalism paradigm is changing.  We are in the process of building a new kind of Media organization.  One that runs on the energy of the community, not supported by corporations and big business.  Stories and investigations originating with you, the people.

      However, this kind of undertaking has expenses, alas.  If you would like to become an ePluribus angel and support ePluribus Media with a donation,  simply go here:

      to make a donation to ePluribus Media

      If you would like to volunteer, email me at NYBri2 at yahoo dot com.

      This endeavor will thrive with your support.

      Thank you all for your interest and kind words of encouragement.

      •  Great work...2 questions. (4.00 / 2)

        1. Where did the name ePluribus come from? I searched google for a definition of both ePluribu,s and Pluribus, with no luck.

        2. Have you looked into Sean Hannity and Oliver North? Both seem to have loose connections to Gannon.

        Jennifer Ohman worked for Hannity, Talon and Ollie North.

        Ollie North has been rehabilitated in the eyes of the Reich but I'm sure he's up to his old tricks.

        •  2nd link in google.. (4.00 / 2)

          ..is "e pluribus unum = out of many, one", if you just google "pluribus". However the "e" in "ePluribus" probably stands for "electronic".
          •  Thanks (4.00 / 2)

            I figured pluribus came from plural but wasn't positive.

            Do you have info on Hannity?

            I challenge anyone to find anything concrete about Hannity pre 1996.

            There are several vague references to a station giving him a chance based on an ad he placed in an industry mag but nothing that lists dates, qualifications, or previous work.

            For all that's out there Hannity might as well be a military plant.  One of 'Ollie's Boyz'

            Gannon is a little fish compared to Hannity IMO.

    •  Fabulous job E Pluribus Team (4.00 / 2)

      And wonderful writing SusanG!

      It looks as if REAL news is born via E-Pluribus Media!

      Kudos and Thanks

    •  Excellent work (4.00 / 2)

      My great thanks to you Susan and everyone that has contributed.

      YOU have the power to take our media back!

      Peace,

      Andrew
      p.s. hmmm... not much room in there for a military career, huh. Plenty of room during the escort service days to meet a sugar daddy that can open doors though... interesting to see who turns up in your continuing investigation.

      Full Disclosure: I am Chair of the Darius Shahinfar for Congress Campaign Committee in NY-21.

      by Andrew C White on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 10:25:05 AM PDT

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    •  wow! (none / 1)

      Great work! I know how difficult it is to truly vette the truth!

      Now if only the mainstream media gets a hold of this...and does the constant replay thing!

      No more gooper LITE!

      by krwada on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 10:33:22 AM PDT

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    •  Well Done! (none / 1)

      Thanks for all the hard work that went into this.

      It is good to trust people; but it is better not to.

      by choff on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 11:42:51 AM PDT

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  •  Very excellent and I recommended this diary! (4.00 / 3)

    It's amazing that you guys at ePluribus Media have gone back this far in Jim Guckert's past, and gotten these details about him.

    It's interesting and quite telling that so far, I haven't seen similar revelations about Guckert appear in the media.

  •  This Is What Journalism Is All About (4.00 / 8)

    The best of the blogs; the best of journalism.

    Keep it up!

  •  Ethics: "obedience to the unenforceable" (4.00 / 7)

    Excellent work that enlightens the citizenry while shaming the corporate media. The latter is small comfort to a nation on the brink.

    Know this: your efforts are highly appreciated and respected as well.

    I donated to ePluribus Media; kindly join me: "I participate therefore I am...."

    by libby on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:49:04 AM PDT

  •  Exciting stuff (4.00 / 4)

    Is ePluribus Media going to have its own website?  They should and sell these articles into syndication.

    I think Jeff Gannon is going to blow wide open.  From your timeline, it looks obvious that in 2001, through his escort business, Gannon met the person who would sponsor him in GOP circles.  This person must have Texas connections, because they connected him with Eberle.

    Great job, great investigating.  It's amazing how much you can get from public sources.

    McCain: Less jobs, more war.

    by Unstable Isotope on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:55:18 AM PDT

  •  SusanG (none / 1)

    do you have an public email account?
  •  have you (none / 1)

    established he was not a Marine?

    Rome wasn't burnt in a day.

    by Miss Devore on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:01:24 AM PDT

    •  We requested records (4.00 / 4)

      From both the Marines at Quantico and the Military Personnel Center in St. Louis, and neither place could come up with any records for him.

      And it's hard to see, based on the timeline, when he could have served.

      I've heard a lot of stories about military records gone missing though, and if he wants to provide proof of service, we'd love to post it.

      •  Aren't there Marines ... (none / 1)

        who aren't "officially" Marines? Like a DIA operative. This would explain a lot.

        Or CIA?

        Hey! Wasn't the White House "Call Boy" scandal in 1989? And there was rumored to be some CIA connection, wasn't there?  Hmmmm ....

        All idle speculation. But interesting nonetheless.

        "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Einstein

        by Glinda on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 05:43:56 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  If he wasn't a Marine (none / 0)

        then he can't be prosecuted for using Marine insignia, etc. on porn sites, right?  Is it illegal to "impersonate" a Marine?

        "Reality has a well-known liberal bias." Stephen Colbert

        by Time Waits for no Woman on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 07:30:18 PM PDT

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        •  If it was (none / 0)

          there would be a lot of actors in jail. And a lot of military wannabes along with them.

          I would imagine that it's illegal if you impersonate a Marine to commit fraud or criminal acts. But then it's the criminal act that's illegal, the impersonation is just a piece of that.

  •  Nov 12, 2002 (none / 1)

    Could that have been the day that a "journalist mentor" from the Eberle clan took Jeff under his wing and helped him get over his writer's block?  Perhaps Jeff showed his gratitude in a way that inspired this "satisfied customer" to write a review.

    Halliburton: the bucks stop there.

    by YankInUK on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:01:52 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for your work on this story but enough (3.00 / 8)

    already.  This is getting down right creepy.  Do we need to know this guy's entire past?  This is crazy and it's why people don't go into public service.  I'm not defending Gannon and his male escort past OR his ability to get in the White House but those concerns have been raised and the story should be why he got access not what was he doing in 1987.

    This isn't right.  Am I the only one that finds this creepy?

    What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

    (-6.75, -3.85)

    by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:03:44 AM PDT

    •  Not sure if you are but I don't for a second: (4.00 / 10)

      you call our introduction to Mr. Gannon's efforts a public service? I should say that finding the "public servant" who brought him to us in living color is the public service.

      The extent to which his past is connected to his "public service" is beyond relevant; it's fundamental to understanding what we've become as a nation.

      I donated to ePluribus Media; kindly join me: "I participate therefore I am...."

      by libby on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:13:52 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  No, I don't mean to say that what he did was a (none / 0)

        public service but that the "real journalists" that sat next to him are public servants in that they perform a public good.  What I'm referring to is that people are turned off by delving into people's lives whether for good or ill.    Exposing him was a good public service but the continued delving into his past I don't think advances the debate any and distracts us from investigating the causes for him getting in the White House and his being a hack for the dissemination of propaganda.

        What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

        (-6.75, -3.85)

        by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:52:12 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  GG should not have been there (4.00 / 4)

          And no one has yet determined how he got to the WH briefings, who wanted him there and exactly what was intended for him to do (as opposed to what he actually did that we now have a pretty good idea.)

          The only way at the moment to get to the larger picture is to pull on the string - that is, investigate GG in real depth as is now being done here.

          GG is an indicator of the real problem. He isn't the problem himself so much. The only reason not to investigate GG in depth is because you don't think he is a symptom of a problem, or you don't want to know the true nature or the full extent of the problem. A lot of people don't. Maybe you don't. I do want to know.

          Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

          by Rick B on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 11:58:27 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  His past and his access (4.00 / 3)

          are intertwined. The very thing you want to know, "investigating the causes for him getting in the White House and his being a hack for the dissemination of propaganda," is what the team is looking for in his personal history.

          Saying he has no journalistic background that would explain it is one thing. Supporting it by showing what his background is makes it a statement much harder to refute or discredit. It's thorough journalism.

          If you were running this investigation, where would you look other than at JD's history?  You surely can't be under the impression that the WH Press Office is going to forthcoming with anything resembling substantial information.

          Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

          by boadicea on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 12:11:46 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Why it's important (4.00 / 21)

      While I can see why this much scrutiny can seem too much, keep in mind, we felt it was important to get a glimpse into the way the propaganda machine works by:

      1. Showing definitively that nothing in his background qualified him for White House access.

      2. Trying to trace in detail how he got in there. I think it's more than likely he's not the only possible "plant," and unless we figure out where his path crossed with the propaganda machine, we're never going to figure out how this system works.
      •  Well, I understand your intentions and though (3.20 / 5)

        they may be honorable I don't think they are justified.  It would be hard to imagine anyone here who would be comfortable with the amount of scrutiny this community has taken to an individual's personal history or past.  Granted, Gannon/Gucker's personal history was paramount to the discovery of his not belonging in the press room as a hack and as a hypocrite...I don't think the current tack of this investigation is heading in the right direction.  I think your investigative talents would be best served uncovering this government's secrets and not delving further into who or what softball team and faternity some already embarassed former White House  hack was a member of.  IMHO.

        What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

        (-6.75, -3.85)

        by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:35:32 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Tell that to all (4.00 / 9)

          of those who have suffered tremendously from the policies which Gannon/Guckert so callously helped to sell to the American public.

          Furthermore, were I an escort who sold my services to a corrupt presidential administration, advocating disastrous policies for my personal benefit, you'd best believe that the threat of discovery and embarassment were risks to which I would knowingly expose myself.  I'm sure Guckert/Gannon demanded ample compensation for this risk.  Your concerns are misplaced as Guckert/Gannon is a clear cynic who was more than willing to risk exposure for cash.

          While I would certainly not advocate that this level of scrutiny be attached to each and every public servant connected with the Bush administration, Guckert/Gannon's identity and solid proof of his lack of credentials are relevant to the Bush administration's larger propaganda racket.

          Face it, Guckert's a whore, in every sense of the word.  It is extremely appropriate that concerned citizens investigate his past to determine just exactly how he ended up having access to the highest corridors of power.

          •  That's fine and I'm not arguing against anything (none / 1)

            you propose...

            Where we differ is in the process.  I don't think finding out that this guy was a beer distributor, had a teaching certificate, and played softball "in the city of brotherly love" advances that agenda.  We can disagree on that point but I think the more energy and attention directed at Gucker/Gannon isn't directed at the White House and uncovering any other progadandists that may still be out there.  That's my opinion in the matter.  

            What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

            (-6.75, -3.85)

            by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:56:41 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  I hear you, (4.00 / 19)

              but I think uncovering Guckert/Gannon's background in an effort to piece together his ascension into the ranks of the WH is worthwhile.  This case necessitates scrutiny into details which might at first appear irrelevant.  There is a strong likelihood that Guckert/Gannon's WH career was the product of a happenstance liaison with a powerful patron.  Knowing exactly where Gannon was between, say, 1995 and 2005 can be key in uncovering the identity of that patron.  I know this seems invasive, but (1) Guckert absolutely exposed himself to this risk (and was probably compensated it); and (2) just as in Watergate, the devil is in the details and piecing together a larger story from assorted, seemingly unrelated clues.

              I vigorously applaud SusanG's and others' efforts on this.

              •  Thus the wise advise in the adage (none / 1)

                Live like everything you do will be published in the paper.

                Although none of us enjoys the idea of everything we do becoming public knowledge, we are always one moment away from having it happen.

                "Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they've stolen." Mort Sahl

                by maggiemae on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 08:32:22 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  Particularly if you have made (4.00 / 3)

                  the shameful decision to become an extension of a corrupt and illegal propaganda effort.  I'm no advocate of willy-nilly intrusions into the lives of merely unpopular people; however, Guckert/Gannon knowingly accepted the risk that his unethical activities would be ferreted out, and I'll point out again, he was probably compensated for that risk.
                  •  Does the title not creep you out any? (none / 0)

                    The soap opera nature and the "your lives" reference ...gives me the creeps.  It's too unnerving for me.  A little too much satisfaction and pat yourself on the back for me.  I'm glad he was exposed but this is going a little too far for me. Am I being too liberal?  Too libertarian?  or too sensitive?

                    What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

                    (-6.75, -3.85)

                    by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 09:11:35 AM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  No, not at all (4.00 / 4)

                      Guckert/Gannon gives me the creeps.  It's not as if his mother's/brother's backgrounds have been investigated and published, or (as another commenter pointed out) Kos researchers wantonly invaded the private lives of any and all members of the Bush administration, or even all members of the press corps.

                      Guckert's/Gannon's job was to disseminate propaganda to trick the populace into accepting policies which have proved disastrous and downright deadly.  Public inspection of his activities and background were a nearly certain fallback of this job.  Those who have endeavored to enlighten the rest of us with a factual analysis of how a whore ended up in the press corps deserve to pat themselves on the back.

                      I have not a whiff of sympathy for the man who cashed in at the direct expense of others.  My sympathy is reserved for those who have been hurt and killed due to the propaganda hustle in which Guckert/Gannon played a whorish role.  The man's an obvious (paid) cynic and is quite possibly the key to untangling some pretty nasty business going on in the WH.  He's laughing all the way to the bank as we wring hands about whether delving into his past in order to find his WH patron.

                    •  But I'll add (4.00 / 2)

                      that I don't think you are too liberal/sensitive/protective of privacy.  You have a point of view which, although not shared by myself and others, you are more than entitled to.  That's what makes our party great; the absence of an echo chamber and willingness of the constituency to voice opinions challenging the majority opinion.
                    •  Too sensitive (4.00 / 3)

                      Yeah, I wouldn't like having my life delved into like this, BUT I haven't made up a life so I can pretend to be a journalist so I can ask softball questions at the Whitehouse either. Quit feeling sorry for this guy.

                      If all these questions were not answered, people would still be saying things like, "Maybe he studied Journalism in college", or "I'm sure his background qualifies him in some way to be a journalist". Unequivocally, the answer is a big fat no.

                      He knew the risks going in, and if he didn't he's a bigger idiot than I thought.

                      Keep digging, ePluribus Unum folks! What a great piece you've put together.

                      "Whenever I'm about to do something, I think, 'would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing." ~Dwight Schrute

                      by Liberaljentaps on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 12:39:53 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  What wasn't written (4.00 / 4)

                        Guckert's first paying job in journalism was sitting in the White House press briefing room. That should give you creeps.

                        No one is digging into his life simply to dig. Somewhere, in Guckert's past, he met someone powerful enough to sit a wanted tax cheat 4 rows from the President of the United States, under an assumed name. Perhaps was a recent acquaintance, but perhaps it was a friend of 20 years.

                        Yes, you are being too sensitive. Guckert decided to start a male escort site, he decided not to pay his taxes, he decided to sit in that seat, and decided to pretend what he wrote was news.

                        He is under this investigation because of his own actions and because no one else will do it.

                        Read between the lines and and praise e Pluribus Media for the things they decided not to include.

                        I donated to ePluribus Media. Support citizen journalism!

                        by nyDrTodd on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 03:58:50 PM PDT

                        [ Parent ]

            •  Ya right (4.00 / 3)

              Like you don't think the tax liability has anything to do with it all? And where did that come from, and who paid it and what are the deductables for the E entiprise that there is no history of earnings.
              That's why they are called Questions???????????????????????????

              Looking for Good Reason

              by Clzwld on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 09:34:52 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

            •  If there's a Mafia connection (none / 0)

              to that bar/softball team involvement and to the liquor distributorships, don't you think that's relevant?

              The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

              by lysias on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 04:29:45 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

        •  And you probably would have said (4.00 / 5)

          to Woodward and Bernstein "You guys are just getting creepy. No one can withstand this kind of scrutiny! Leave poor Nixon alone! What is this obsession with the break-in? Why do we need to hear the tapes he made in his office?"

          You are missing the big picture - it's not ABOUT Gannon.

          Oh, but he's the an innocent victim here, right? HA!

          Sorry. No free passes for anybody who posts pictures on the internet of themselves PEEING.

          •  that's funny...you're right, I would have (4.00 / 3)

            stopped that investigation because it was getting "too personal."  I would haven't been able to separate the criminal nature of Watergate from the personal---you're right.

            What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

            (-6.75, -3.85)

            by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 06:58:38 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  Where to draw the line (4.00 / 3)

              There's a big difference in delving into someone's personal life for the fun of humiliating them (ala Clinton/Lewinsky) vs. trying to uncover more important information.

              There are probably other gay reporters in the White House Press Corps. Is anybody looking into their private lives? No. They might even be as interesting as Guckert but no one is investigaing them because they are there legitimately.

              With him, something is rotten in Denmark or as Big Mama Thornton sang so eloquently, "I smell a rat, baby!" We don't know who or what it is yet and this is the only way to find out.

              (And a 4 to you for your honesty.)

              •  you'll need to take back that 4 because (none / 0)

                I was being sarcastically snarky to your insinuation  that I wouldn't have pushed forward on Watergate...

                Sorry, if my sarcasm wasn't clear.  My response was too good to be true ;)

                What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

                (-6.75, -3.85)

                by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 07:17:20 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  Prostitution is a crime (4.00 / 2)

                  Whether it should be or not is not the question.

                  So.....

                  If a tiny amount digging found crimes committed by Gannon should we stop there?

                  If we tore his life apart and all we found was parking tickets then your points (fears) would be valid.

                  But we found crimes. Prostitution and Tax evasion.

                •  Duly noted (3.50 / 4)

                  Apparently, I overestimated you...

                  Frankly, what's creepy is YOU being so squeemish about this. Politics is nasty business, honey. If it's too much for you, maybe your time would be better spent on something else.

                  Lots of ladies enjoy scrapbooking. Why don't you give it a try?

        •  discoverying gov't secrets (4.00 / 15)

          must be done through people.  It is real life people who hold those gov't secrets, who are pushing propaganda at us, and who have persoal secrets others can exploit.  

          That is why gov't secret agents are encouraged, ne demanded, to have no mistresses or legal entanglements that can later be used as blackmail.  Personal conduct matters in politics.  To find out about Aldrich the spy, one had to discover who he was meeting with and his daily life to uncover the missteps amongst the normal.  

          To catch a spy is good and information about Guckert will hopefully lead to uncover who is paying these creeps to feed us lies.

          •  I agree...but I don't think that since journalism (none / 0)

            standards need not apply to the blogosphere doesn't mean that we can't glean from those standards important lessons like--editors don't publish things just because they have them and that distributing abstract and in many ways very general and vaguely pertinent information doesn't mean it should be published for the "greater good".  This never-ending uncovering of more information from his past only turns people off from the bigger story just when we need these people to be paying attention. IMHO.

            What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

            (-6.75, -3.85)

            by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 07:23:29 AM PDT

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            •  This investigation is doing (4.00 / 6)

              exactly what you say it should be doing -- investigative talents would be best served uncovering this government's secrets -- by investigating the backstory to put together the pieces of the puzzle that created Gannon/Guckert.

              You also seem to be implying that the ePluribusMedia team is not applying high standards, since journalism standards need not apply to the blogosphere doesn't mean that we can't glean from those standards, when in fact the very highest standards are being applied: triple verification, using as much as possible information that is in the public domain, not publishing personal information such as SS numbers. (Full disclosure: I have done some of the early reading on this story but have not participated in the detailed research or writing.)

              You say editors don't publish things just because they have them. Unfortunately, too many editor do exactly that; see CCN, Fox News, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Washington Post, et al. SusanG is not one of those.

              It's uncomfortable to see or read information about a supposedly "private" life, even if that person has behaved in such a way as to become a public figure. I suspect much of the allure of stories about various movie stars is as much for the thrill of peeping into another's life as it is about seeing how the rich and famous live.

              In this case, we're not concerned with movie stars at Malibu but with questions of access and possibly undue influence at the highest levels of our government. And it is, still, our government. For the moment.  

              The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

              by Mnemosyne on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 09:17:17 AM PDT

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              •  Triple-verified is a great start but publishing (none / 1)

                everything that can be verified doesn't change my concern.  Which is--does everything need to be reported in the name of "exhaustive research"?

                Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work they've done but I think some of it makes for a great story but not for great journalism.

                There are many many many people here who will then say, "well, he's a gay escort republican whore planted in the white house...he deserves it and people should know this."  

                And my answer is, "You've succeeded in exposing all of that and that's great, but do we need to know that he played softball in the city of brotherly love, had a teaching certificate, and distributed beer?

                Also, it was proved again that he's your typical power-hungry Republican--a pathological lying hypocrite.  Is that new news?

                What would Jesus Do? He would impeach Bush.

                (-6.75, -3.85)

                by mapKY on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 09:49:37 AM PDT

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                •  I think you're assuming (4.00 / 11)

                  that they've done an information dump and posted everything they have. As I said, I didn't write this piece, but if Susan has followed standard good journalistic practice, and I think she has, she's used only a small portion of the information she has.

                  The rest is not verifiable, not pertinent, outdated, and/or redundant. In interviewing people in person, reporters frequently take pages and pages of notes, then use only perhaps 5-10 percent of that information in writing the story. The rest of the information is to help them understand the context and the backstory.

                  So, yes, everything I read in this story today seems pertinent. It establishes a timeline, as well as asks about possible connections and motivations, all essential to understanding how an unqualified office worker and part-time gay porn seller magically morphed into an apparently security clearance-free participant at White House press gaggles with access to the highest levels of the administration.

                  It's also important to pull this sweater apart, as NYBri says, in order to understand how the machine is built, because you can bet your bottom dollar that JeffyJim is not the only fake on the payroll being used to distort information and illegally propagandize the American public.

                  If this were not such a secretive administration, probably doing illegal things we haven't even though of yet, and if someone -- but who? -- weren't scrubbing web sites about Gannon/Guckert as soon they're publicized here, we might not have had to ask as many questions and some of this stuff might not have been printed. But it's pretty clear that this is the most secretive, paranoid bunch of bureaucrats in living memory. They make the Nixon White House look like a paragon of free access and cheerfully given information.  

                  The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

                  by Mnemosyne on Mon Mar 28, 2005 at 10:21:12 AM PDT

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                  •  yes... (none / 1)

                    that they've done an information dump and posted everything they have. As I said, I didn't write this piece, but if Susan has followed standard good journalistic practice, and I think she has, she's used only a small portion of the information she has.

                    The rest is not verifiable, not pertinent, outdated, and/or redundant. In interviewing people in person, reporters frequently take pages and pages of notes, then use only perhaps 5-10 percent of that information in writing the story. The rest of the information is to help them understand the context and the backstory.

                    you are correct....

            •  Again you're assuming (none / 0)

              that they have published everything. I bet that's not true. Plus casting general aspersions on the integrity of NYBri & SusanG is simply not warranted. I haven't rated you down yet but these people are good at what they do. Frankly, I think they've upheld journalistic standards much better than most of the so-called journalists out there.Enough already you've made your point!
        •  treason is justification (