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IPDI nonsense: "must protect media from bloggers!"

Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:35:50 PM PDT

IPDI is the Institute for Politics, Democracy, and the Internet at George Washington University. They are led by a woman called Carol Darr. And they submitted these comments to the FEC arguing against giving citizen media a media exemption.

The hopelessly naive, astonishingly ill-informed comment starts like this (page six):

4. Should bloggers be given the media exemption?  

Just as national politics was once an insiders' game, newscoverage of national politics and serious political commentary were once the exclusive domain of media elites. Noany more . Bloggers have "democratized' journalism, and a coalition of bloggers has demanded the same wholesale exemption from the federal campaign finance laws that is currently provided to so - called mainstream media.    

That exemption allows traditional journalists to fully communicate and coordinate with candidates, online or offline, and then spend, through their corporate employers, unlimited amounts of money publishing whatever news or commentary they please, favorable or unfavorable, fair or unfair, in any distribution channel: TV, radio, newspapers, magazines or the Internet.  

The bloggers are correct about the broad scope of this exemption: the news media can interview candidates, get leaked stories from them about their opponents, hold editorial board meetings with them, endorse them and even follow them around all day long if they are so inclined, none of which is subject to regulation by the FEC, regardless of how much money they spend.

On its face, the bloggers' request for rightsequal to those of mainstream media seems reasonable. Their online readership, in a few instances, exceeds those of mid - sized daily newspapers, and their influence and legitimacy continues to grow, in some cases exponentially. Last summer, dozens of bloggers were issued press credentials at the two national party conventions, and several of them have been credentialed by the House and Senate Press Galleries. Recently a blogger was given a day pass to the White House Press Room.  

Some bloggers want it both ways, however . They want to preserve their rights as political activists, donors and even fundraisers -- activities regulated by campaign finance laws -- yet at the same time enjoy the broad exemption from the campaign finance laws afforded to traditional journalists . As one blogger speculated, "So basically, I can do whatever I want, spending however much money I want (blogTV that has fatband maximized by megamillions) and just call it a blog?" That is exactly right.  

For thirty years the campaign finance laws have made a fundamental distinction between political activists and the news media, in order to protect a free press while at the same time limiting the influence of big money on federal elections. Until recently, the distinction between the news media and rest of us was clear and uncontroversial.

Bloggers blur that distinction. If anyone can publish a blog, and if bloggers are treated as journalists, then we can all become journalists. If millions of "citizen journalists," as bloggers like to call themselves, are given the rights and privileges of the news media, two consequences will follow.

Wow. So much crap to sort through it's hard to know where to start. But let's focus on this part?
For thirty years the campaign finance laws have made a fundamental distinction between political activists and the news media, in order to protect a free press while at the same time limiting the influence of big money on federal elections. Until recently, the distinction between the news media and rest of us was clear and uncontroversial.

Bloggers blur that distinction.

What a steaming pile of you know what! Here's a community project. Use the comments to list examples of how political activists have permeated the "news media" to "blur that distinction".

Make no mistake, this attempt by Ms. Darr is just the latest by academic pinheads to degrade the role of citizens in the media space. They once dominated the industry, and can't stand that literally anyone and EVERYONE is now media. And no, I'm not speculating. She spells it out clearly (page 8):

The other consequence is that the privileged status the press currently enjoys will diminish. When that happens, an erosion of its most important privilege, its ability through shield laws to protect the anonymity of its sources, will surely follow. While the FEC has no jurisdiction over shield laws, a change in the rules defining the news media in one arena is bound to affect other laws. As the pool of those considered journalists quickly expands, it is inevitable that the media's fragile privilege to refuse to answer questions about sources posed by prosecutors and grand juries will narrow.    

The ramifications of the bloggers' demand are enormous. The issue before the FEC goes to the heart of the fundamental questions that define a democracy's relationship to a free press: Who should be treated as a journalist, and what special privileges, if any, should they receive?

This is about protecting what they see as their special perks. And even though partisans have invaded the news media for some time, Darr is hoping to make an example of bloggers.

Because it's not about "media" versus "political activists". It's DC Establishment versus those of us outside of DC. THAT's what blowhards like Darr are trying to protect.

So please offer up examples of political activists inside the media machine (like Roger Ailes, Paul Begala, etc.) so we can blow that asinine argument out of the water.

These campus blogethicists like Carol Darr at IPDI love to pontificate about the harm that bloggers cause their precious profession, even as they fail to understand that bloggers are, in huge part, a response to the failings of their profession. So they pontificate from their ivory towers, oblivious to the excesses and failures of "legitimate" journalists around them.

Update: acbonin, who is writing our response to the FEC, also tackles the issue in this diary.

I trust you see the problem. She's drawing a line between "journalist" and "activist" which does not exist in reality.

Here's the information I'd like to effectively respond:

Go to http://opensecrets.org/indivs/index.asp.

Look up either individual members of the media, or by media entity.

Find me every journalist or pundit or editor you can who contributes to federal campaigns already. It took me a minute to find Paul Begala, Bill Press, and ABC President Lloyd Braun.

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  •  Blogger ethics (none / 1)

    <atrios>Time to hold another conference on blogger ethics!</atrios>
    •  I like the atrios tags... (4.00 / 2)

      seriously, this is absolutely ridiculous. This person has no idea what they're talking about. It's time to properly bash and skewer them for their pathetic comments.

      I think it illustrates one thing: they are afraid of the blogosphere.

      •  Beg to Differ (4.00 / 4)

        My guess is that Darr knows exactly what she's talking about.  Her bio makes her sound like a classic political insider. Darr's a Dem (as are a lot of folks at the IPDI), but on issues like this, it often doesn't matter (witness the behavior of the Dems on the FEC).

        Blogs potentially threaten the established networks of power.  The not-entirely-irrational (if deeply undemocratic) response of those power networks is to try to stomp such rivals out.

        This battle is a populist classic, the Masses vs. the Classes. I'm afraid my money would be on the Classes (though I hope I'm proven wrong).

        This nicely summarizes what's wrong with American political life today. (Source)

        by GreenSooner on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:08:11 PM PDT

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        •  Excellent point.... (none / 0)

          You're right. I concur. That's kind of what I meant. I suppose what I mean to say is that she has taken the wrong side.
          •  It's Feingold's Disorder... (none / 1)

            ...which is characterized by the following signs:

            1. She doesn't realize that the things she thinks of as "blogs" (namely conservative outfits like PowerLine) are actually plain old top-down vanity websites.  (You can tell by, among other things, their non-allowance of comments.)  Meanwhile, true blogs such as Kos and Eschaton are far more community-oriented and participatory.

            2. She doesn't realize that true blogs, because they are open-source as opposed to top-down, are actually the best things to happen to both journalism and politics in ages.  Why? Because:

              a) Their open-source-ness means that progressives, who are open-source by nature, are better able to make full use of them than are non-progressives.

              b) They are dirt cheap to run.  (DailyKos, which is big and relatively expensive by blog standards, costs less to run than a typical hundred-watt radio station -- and reaches far more people in far more places.)  

            John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

            by Phoenix Woman on Fri Jun 03, 2005 at 05:27:58 AM PDT

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            •  Here's IPDI's Contact Info... (none / 0)

              ... I suggest telling them about the journalistic research being done by Kossacks over at Booman Tribune.

              The Institute for Politics Democracy & the Internet

                      The Graduate School of Political Management

                      The George Washington University

                      805 21st St., NW

                      Suite 401

                      Washington, DC 20052

                      1.800.367.4776 toll free

                      ipdi@ipdi.org

                     

                      Click here to send your feedback

                     

                  Carol Darr, Director

                            darr@gwu.edu

                            202.994.5141

                           

              John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

              by Phoenix Woman on Fri Jun 03, 2005 at 05:44:31 AM PDT

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        •  why not just go Gannon/Armstrong (none / 0)

          Just curious, couldn't Kos just turn a few male prostitute tricks and change his blog to an online newspaper.  He might even get a WH press pass!  Anyone that wants to pay him to pimp a story can do so, if Armstrong Williams can get cash, so can Kos.  This is all semantics.  You change the definition from blog to press and none of the rules apply.  And since ideas of journalistic process, balance and other such things no longer apply anyway, nobody can say squat.  As a practical matter, FEC tweaks are merely a PIA forcing you to implement CYA, not real regulation.

          Pride goeth before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:8

          by PJ 7 on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:46:29 PM PDT

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  •  good god (4.00 / 7)

    What a truckload of self-righteous horse manure.

    The other consequence is that the privileged status the press currently enjoys will diminish.

    The press has severely abused their privileges, and have not lived up to their responsiblities.  Not even close.

    So someone has to do their job.

    JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's 3rd term.

    by chumley on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:41:10 PM PDT

    •  besides which (none / 0)

      who believes any of the crap they say anyway?
      •  Yeah, but (4.00 / 3)

        Well, I used to be one of them. Believe me, we're not all deranged liars.
        Anyway -- "privileged status"??? Hah. You know how I got to be a member of the press? Some jerk hired me. That's all. We don't have to pass a loyalty test. I didn't major in journalism. I'd much rather blog, frankly.
      •  I turned off the MSM (none / 1)

        after the 2004 debacle.  Never turned it on again.  There was a kid on the Kerry blog who liked to proclaim that "we are the media!" to which I responded, "no, we're not - we're just bloggers!"  And I still think that.  Unless you've got the clout to go in and interview "source" people in DC, Pebble Beach, or wherever they hang out, you're just reacting to what other people have said these people have said.  In other words, twice-chewed cud ain't news.  It can be opinion, and there's certainly an abundance of that here and on lesser blogs, but - medium?  I would expect more of a medium than just opinion, or at least, that it declare itself to be opinion.  Of course, that's in opposition to Dubya, who declares that the media are all just politics.  And from his point of view, from inside the ninth circle suspended upside down in ice - he's right.
    •  if printing presses are free.... (none / 1)

      ...only free people will have printing presses...?

      I'm surprised no one got this point (yet, maybe I haven't read far enough down the thread...):

      Substitute the word "printing press" for "blog" and the deep structure of the arguement becomes clear.

      The deep structure of their reasoning is that they are defining their profession in terms of possession of one specific type of equipment (an expensive physical-paper printing press).

      Reductio-ad-absurdam:  What if physical paper printing presses suddenly became free and universally affordable?   What about a publisher whose printing press is the Xerox machine at the nearby photocopy shop?   What if the Post Office adopted a rule by which anyone who published editorial content would be able to mail out unlimited copies to unlimited subscribers for a total cost equivalent to a monthly local telephone bill?  What differentiates a computer and the intenet from a television camera and an all-cable TV broadcast system?  

      Here's the revolution for you:

      When the Pentagon (DARPA) gave the Internet to the general public, they effectively lowered the cost of becoming a publisher to the cost of a desktop computer and a telephone line.  By analogy, lowering the cost of a printing-press to nearly free.  

      It was as if someone had invented a way to transform lead into gold, and now the previous owners of hoardes of gold are complaining because any peasant can wear fine jewelery.

  •  Now we know (none / 1)

    How the Pew Charitable Trust is weighing in on this issue.

    They fund the Institute for Politics, Democracy, adn the Internet.

  •  is this a fight we can win? (none / 1)

    I mean, not to be too cynical, but is the FEC really open to reasonable arguments, or just in the pocket of the administration?

    (Also, kos, I'm not sure what this woman's being an academic has to do with her report being a load of hooey... not all academics are bloviators & not all bloviators are academics.  The anti-academe themes on the front page the last few months are, well, weird.)

    •  don't forget (none / 0)

      that the administration loves the blogd when it is convenient for them... Jeff gannon
    •  By law, both parties have an equal number of reps. (none / 0)

      •  according to their web site (4.00 / 2)

        the chairman was appointed by Reagan, Vice-Chairman by Bush.  Of the four other commisioners, two were appointed by Clinton, one by Reagan, one by Bush.

        Seems a little skewed, but maybe who appointed them doesn't reflect their political bent too directly?  (I see that one of the Reagan appointees was re-appointed by Clinton for example.)

        Just curious - thanks for info.

    •  Yeah we can win, it's called the first amendment (none / 1)

      The thing is, the FEC has been able to manage some amount of campaign finance management because they've only applied it to dedicated political organizations.  Once they try to down to the level of regulating the speaking and writing of individuals, the Supreme Court will smack them down.

      Ultimately, campaign finance rules will never work.  Applying limitations to donations is, in effect, controlling free expression.  They can try to do it, but with each new rules comes new loop holes, and because, at a fundamental level it's all hooked into the first amendment, there will always be loopholes.

      The only realistic approach to this is a system of reporting.  No rules, no limitations, but you have to tell everybody exactly where you get your money and support from.  If you are coordinating with some blog, then you have to report it.  If you don't, we boil you in oil or some such.  

      The threat to Democracy isn't the money itself, it's the quid pro quo.  If we all know who's backing you and where the money is coming from, then we know who you're likely to be wedded to come legsilation time.  Trying to limit anything is, ultimately, an execercise in futility.

      •  Campaign Finance (4.00 / 2)

        Applying limitations to donations is, in effect, controlling free expression.

        The Supreme Court's nonsensical equation of money and speech is the root of the problem. Limiting my ability to spend money in no way abridges my ability to say anything. Giving wealthy folks more 'speech' than the poor makes me physically ill.

  •  so let me get this straight... (none / 1)

    Fox "News" a clearly slanted organiztion filled with former (and current)wingers and activists do not threatent the prestige of the media

    BUT!

    communities like Kos and other blogs, which only exist to bring out truth in the Main Stream Media are a threat to media establishment?

    Sometimes I forget that it is good for the media to tear down an American hero like deep throat but detrimental to bring out the truth of Downing Street Minutes!

    •  Fox is the obvious (4.00 / 3)

      retort.

      It is ridiculous on its face on that alone.

      Fundraising? Fox is worth hundreds of millions of dollars to Republicans every national election.

      Sinclair, Clear Channel, my gawd the list is endless.

      This is so ill informed that one wonders what the hell she does at her job.

      Everybody dies alone.

      by Armando on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:52:40 PM PDT

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      •  Clear Channel (none / 1)

        is the worst of them all... they mascarade as a legitimate media organization...

        Clear Channel is sadly the owner of many of my favorite radio stations (music based stations only) yet they are constantly mixing politics and music...

        the entire concept of the conservative media taking over is appalling and these groups appear to be easily accepted as legitimate simply because they consist of members of the pre-established media elite...

        not to mention many in the media elite just dont get what Blogs are about... UGH!

    •  That was my first thought (none / 0)

      as well. If these prostitutes are so concerned about their profession why aren't they screeming about FOX. If they had any respect for news they would be writing stories every day about The Bukkake Beltway Boys amd the entire apparatus.
  •  Blogs... (4.00 / 2)

    are not dissimilar to the publications early in colonial America. Poor Richard's Almanack sold because it had some great scientific truth; but it was sprinkled liberally with exaggerations and superstitions.

    Certainly "Richards" did not hurt the public discourse, but enriched it.

    A discerning person who watches "The Daily Show" or reads a blog can tell fact from opinion, humor from seriousness.

     

    "Don't worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring its own worries. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34

    by Jonathan4Dean on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:47:29 PM PDT

  •  FEC (4.00 / 2)

    Has three Republican and three Democratic commissioners, by law.  They can't act without four agreeing, and it's the anti-CFR conservatives who are most on our side here.

    I wanted to repeat one comment from the other thread, to explain why the exemption matters: "If bloggers are not considered under the media exemption, then everything they say can be considered an "in-kind contribution" to political campaigns, subject to reporting requirements, disclosure requirements and limits.  Group blogs would become "political action committees" that would need to file.  A blogger who incorporates would violate the law with the first word he said supporting a federal candidate.  And more."

    •  Let me get this straight (none / 1)

      If I, of my own volition, rent a car, drive to NYC, stand on a soapbox in Times Square and declare out loud my support for Harry Kornfowski, I've made a campaign contribution?  Whaaaaa??!!

      Some folks prefer a map and finding their own route. Others need someone to tell them where to go.

      by sxwarren on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:53:32 PM PDT

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      •  Well (none / 0)

        Okay, it's really for bloggers who accept advertising.  Because, then, some things on their sites are paid for, while others are given away for free, but your "free speech" has a value set by how much you charge someone to pay for your space in advertising.  Get it?
        •  Fox, Clear Channel (none / 0)

          What world does this person live in?

          Everybody dies alone.

          by Armando on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:56:44 PM PDT

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        •  BTW (none / 0)

          The proposal would consider speech on blogs or anywhere an in kind contribution?

          How's this fit into Buckley? Wasn't that money? Free ads I can see, but speech?

          Haven;t read Buckley since forever.

          Everybody dies alone.

          by Armando on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:59:40 PM PDT

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          •  if it's a site that also receives advertising... (none / 0)

            ...from candidates, parties or PACs.  That's the worst-case scenario, which she seems to want.
            •  I got that (none / 0)

              But is the idea that editorial content is also in kind, to wit - markos' speech is in kind?

              The ads are expenditures rights?

              The issue is in kind through editorial content?

              Forgive my ignorance, I forgot the little I knew about this.

              Everybody dies alone.

              by Armando on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:03:45 PM PDT

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              •  well, it's tricky (none / 1)

                I have to go back to the "independent expenditure" rules -- like, if you're paying for your server, and you use your site to talk about candidates, does that count?

                The way I see the biggest potential problem is this: blogger gets an ad, and so he says something nice about the candidate.  Later the blogger devotes attention to another campaign, but this time, for free.  There is every reason to believe that the blogger has opened himself to a complaint that he has made an "in kind" contribution to the second candidate. The space provided is something of value, and the value would be the difference between what is charged to the first candidate and the amount charged--nothing--to the second.   If the blogger is incorporated, this contribution is illegal.  Even if not, there's a filing that must occur.  

        •  then why (none / 1)

          can't the blogger operate as a sole proprietorship, as a business owner - like any one of a number of community newsletters that sell advertising space to anybody - should the local paper be viewed as a political supporter of every advertiser it accepts money from? Or as a political supporter of the candidates their advertisers support? How many generations of removal from the advertiser to a political candidate are required before it is not a campaign contribution?
        •  So, it has nothing to do with (none / 0)

          how much I spend?  There's no difference, then, between me flying across the country to speak in favor of a federal candidate at a gathering and spending the same amount of money buying a computer and an Internet connection and setting up a blog in support of that same candidate.  Neither set of expenses would be considered a campaign contribution - unless I was asked to do so by the candidate or his/her party?

          Some folks prefer a map and finding their own route. Others need someone to tell them where to go.

          by sxwarren on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 04:04:40 PM PDT

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  •  Hmmm... (4.00 / 3)

    If anyone can publish a blog, and if bloggers are treated as journalists, then we can all become journalists. If millions of "citizen journalists," as bloggers like to call themselves, are given the rights and privileges of the news media, two consequences will follow.

    1. Our democracy will be much healthier

    2. There will be a real opportunity for the growth and power of citizen-based, non-corporate media.

    Sounds great!  My blog is WAL MARX, and I am a citizen journalist.  Fellow Kossacks without a blog - get your asses moving, we've got a democracy to save!!

    "While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal element, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free." - Eugene Debs

    by matthewc on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:48:33 PM PDT

  •  Sheesh, I think that she is missing the entire... (none / 1)

    Picture of how journalism and media have become blurred themselves.

    Media takes huge sums of money from political campaigns and activists and blurs the line between what is appropriate and not appropriate all day long. How can Novak, Brooks, Saffire, Will or any of them claim their impartiality when they talk their talking points on cue from any number of think tanks and the companies that own them receive hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign money as well as hundreds of millions in tax benefits and favorable legislation also.

    They are all running scared, this is nothing more than the MSM striking at something they see as very dangerous to them and they will do anything to stop it...

    What we do for ourselves dies with us, what we do for others and the world remains and is immortal. (Albert Pine)

    by laughingriver on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:48:44 PM PDT

    •  And it will work just as well (none / 1)

      as shutting down Napster stopped people from downloading music for free. Or copying CDs.

      Once the genie is out of the bottle, there's no putting him/her back. Or as the genie said...

      Free at last, free at last, great God almighty, I'm free at last!

  •  When they pry the mouse from my (4.00 / 2)

    cold, dead fingers!  I'm sorry, but the FEC has no right to tell me that I may not declare my support for a particular candidate or party in any public online forum, whether I'm considered a "journalist" or not.  

     

    Some folks prefer a map and finding their own route. Others need someone to tell them where to go.

    by sxwarren on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:50:38 PM PDT

  •  IPDI and the Center for Democracy and Technology.. (none / 1)

    Their eleven Principles to help educate the FEC. (This is the "action" link from IDPI's web site )

    Snips:

    " 4. The Federal Election Commission should adopt a presumption against the regulation of election-related speech by individuals on the Internet, and should avoid prophylactic rules aimed at hypothetical or potential harms that could arise in the context of Internet political speech of individuals. Instead, the Commission should limit regulation to those activities where there is a record of demonstrable harms."

    ...

    "5.If in the future evidence arises that individuals' Internet activities are undermining the purpose of the federal campaign finance laws, any resulting regulation should be narrowly tailored and clearly delineated to avoid chilling constitutionally protected speech. The Commission should eschew a legalistic and overly formal approach to the application of campaign finance laws to political speech on the Internet."

    ...

    "6. Ordinary people should be able to broadly engage in volunteer and independent political activity without running afoul of the law or requiring consultation with counsel. The FEC should make clear that such activities are as a general matter beyond the scope of all campaign finance regulation (including disclaimers, thus preserving the right of individuals to engage in anonymous online political speech)."

    And so on.

    "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

    by RonV on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:51:46 PM PDT

  •  asdf (none / 0)


    Make no mistake, this attempt by Ms. Darr is just the latest by academic pinheads to degrade the role of citizens in the media space.

    here here.

    Here's a community project. Use the comments to list examples of how political activists have permeated the "news media" to "blur that distinction".
    everyone who works for FSN.

    I want Lamont to win, but I won't cry when he doesn't.

    by BiminiCat on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:52:23 PM PDT

  •  Here's a list: (none / 1)

    Bill O'Reilly
    Pat Buchanan
    Monica Crowley
    Sean Hannity
    Joe Scarborough
    Wolf Blitzer
    Tucker Carlson
    Bob Novak
    William Safire
    Thomas Friedman
    David Brooks

    and so on...

    In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

    by Paul in Berkeley on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:54:12 PM PDT

    •  How could I forget this pindick's name? (none / 1)

      Dennis Miller

      In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

      by Paul in Berkeley on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:55:32 PM PDT

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    •  Just to be fair... (none / 0)

      ...this list ought to include lefties, like Colmes, Begala, Moyers, etc...- this is an issue that really transcends right vs. left...

      Thy hand, great Anarch! lets the curtain fall: And universal Darkness buries All.

      by Dunciad on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:03:57 PM PDT

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      •  Screw fairness (4.00 / 2)

        That's been the devilment of the left for years now. We spend all our time trying to be fair and reasonable, while the right-wing doesn't bother and comes out on top.  Let the right-wing come up with their own list, when they're done running Hollywood and the media.

        In loving memory: Sophie, June 1, 1993-January 17, 2005. My huckleberry friend.

        by Paul in Berkeley on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:10:21 PM PDT

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        •  more lists ... (none / 1)

          Tony Snow, former Bush(41) speechwriter

          Tony Blankley, former staffer (chief of staff?) to Newt Gingrich

          Mary Matalin

          Roger Ailes, former communication director for Ronald Reagan, now running ops at Fox News

          Oliver North, former staffer (NSC) in Reagan white house

          George Stephenapolis ... former campaign aide and white house staffer for Bill Clinton

          Steve Forbes, magazine publisher and former candidate for President

          Wolf Blitzer, former activist for Aipac

          that's off the top of my head.  I'm sure some digging would find that a lot of columnist and commentators have at various times moved back and forth across the line between commentary and political activity.

          And it won't be hard to find columnists like George Will, whom even though I'm not sure he's held a position in either a campaign or elected official's office, but whom none-the-less can be shown to constantly write favor a particular candidate in an election or a particular party over several elections.

          --Come to Denver in 2008! www.recreate68.org

          by COBear on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 04:01:15 PM PDT

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          •  of course (none / 1)

            I'm always sceptical of this notion of a unbiased, balanced, and impartial media.

            My idea of fair reporting would be to have multiple commentators with various points of view fully stating their views and their arguments, then I can read it all and decide what makes sense to me.

            Personally, I think this lady's thesis is so full of holes it will be forgotten quickly.  But if they really make some rule saying that anyone who shows any partisanship is supporting a campaign with in-kind contributions, then to me every major media outlet in the country is open to attack on the argument that some of their writers, commentators, pundits etc are in fact partisans.

            Even if the organization proclaims "balance", balance to what.  I tend to support anarchists and Green parties.  So to me, even if CNN could show they were "balanced" in their coverage of Dems and Rethugs, to me that should be viewed as a massive in-kind contribution split between those two parties as their coverage will never be balanced to all parties trying to participate in the political process.

            Of course, the rule in this country for a long time is that the two major parties get special treatment.  I've been reading the stuff about Egypt's "reform" that requires every candidate on the ballot to get the approval of the party that runs the country.  I read that and tend to say "what's the difference?"  Its the same here, except there are two parties instead of one.  And when the two parties seem to agree on an issue like "free trade" (ie, corporate managed trade), then what's the difference between having a one-party state and a two-party state where the two parties have the same position.

            This is silly ... which means its probably likely to become law.

            --Come to Denver in 2008! www.recreate68.org

            by COBear on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 04:11:49 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  You forgot (none / 1)

            Armstrong Williams

            Or does it not count when the GOVERNMENT pays you?

    •  Ann Coulter, John Fund, Brit Hume, G. Gordon Liddy (none / 0)

      Fred Barnes, Lucianne Goldberg, Ed Rogers, Mark Hyman, Tony Blakely, and that super-B Michelle "Suspended somewhere between Uranus and the toilet bowl" Malkin should also be high on the list.
  •  NBC (none / 1)

    via opensecrets search:
    327 records for 2004 cycle
    Total contributions $231,309
    Including $5,000 to General Electric

    "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." Sen Carl Schurz 1872

    by Catte Nappe on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 02:59:31 PM PDT

  •  Jerry Falwell (none / 1)

    hosting Crossfire

    Or how about George Stephanopoulos transition from senior policy advisor / campaign aide to "consultant" to  "journalist" for ABC

    Join Soulforce-seeking Justice for God's GLBT children.
    Time to change the mindset - Obama 'O8!

    by its simple IF you ignore the complexity on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:03:49 PM PDT

  •  Off-shore blog?... "dailykos.tv" n/t (none / 1)

    My candle burns at both ends It will not last the night; But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends - It gives a lovely light! - Edna St. Vincent Millay

    by SteveK on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:06:14 PM PDT

  •  Bottom Line: (4.00 / 2)


     The Journalism Schools have failed America.  Maybe it's not their fault in that it only takes a year or three after getting one's journalism degree to be lured by the Media Heathers into eschewing the surplusage of "ethics" and any sense of corporate responsibility.

     But, at the end of the day, it certainly LOOKS like the Journalism Schools have, over the past two or three decades, been pumping out a bunch of shallow chattering heads and bumbling, research-adverse stenographers.

     So, good citizens out here, armed with no more than a laptop and access to the internets, are showing-up the so-called "professionals" who refuse to do their jobs and people like Darr have their panties all in an embarrassed wad about it.  Sheesh:  Journalists, heal thyselves!

     BenGoshi
    __________________

    "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

    by BenGoshi on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:08:49 PM PDT

    •  Have all those people gone to (4.00 / 2)

      journalism school? Or have they gone to ACTING school?

      Because most of the people on TV have only a passing acquaintance with journalism.

      Radio is pretty much a lost cause (with some NPR stations the exception).

      We won't talk about newspapers.

  •  A little dense (none / 1)

    Best I can tell, the only difference between a traditional media outlet and a BLOG is the means and format of delivery.  It costs less to start a BLOG....so what.

    Just because it's new and looks a little different doesn't mean it isn't media.  Pamplets and flyers were media during the Revolution.  Newspapers and magazines dominated until radio, add some T.V in the '50s, and now the Internet.  Just because setting up a BLOG is cheaper than starting a newspaper doesn't mean it isn't media.  Does a Newspaper that also has an internet forum lose their Media exemptions.  Can a BLOG print a monthly magazine and get a media exemptions.  Will the Atlantic Monthly lose their media exemption since the front page of their website is a BLOG.

    If they limit BLOGS based IPDI's reasoning,  The Weekly Standard, FoxNews, and the Washington Times are in deep trouble.  It's simple set theory.

    Flow with the go. www.bouldergrappling.com

    by Kenevan McConnon on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:14:40 PM PDT

    •  The media isn't the message (none / 1)

      It doesn't matter how the information gets to you.  Does it matter if your TV show is coming to you from rabbit ears, cable, satellite or the internet?  If I sit down in front of your TV set and watch a program, I can't tell how it got to your TV set (leaving out fuzzy radio reception), so it doesn't matter.

      I listen to radio programs by podcasting them on my MP3 player.  But there is nothing inherently special about MP3, I could have recorded them to CD, cassette or even 8-track tape if I wanted to.

      It's the "gee whiz" factor that makes us focus on the new means to do things.  Ever read old Sears catalogs?  I read one from around 1900.  There were pages where you could buy electric motors.  The idea was that you would find a use for them yourself.  Few of us these days deal directly with motors, but did you ever stop to think about how many motors there are in your house?  We use them all the time, but just don't think about it a lot.

      Blogging is just another means of getting things done.

      It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.

      by A Citizen on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 06:54:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  A few analogies come to mind (4.00 / 2)

    The optometrists who fought to keep opticians out of the eyeglass markets.

    The bar associations who tried to sue the do-it-yourself-divorce people out of existence.

    The Realtors who are fighting to keep discounters off the Multiple Listing Service.

    The wine distributors who litigated direct wine shipment laws all the way up to the Supreme Court.

    It's another case of entrenched special interests that want to keep the newcomers out. And they're waving a banner with the word "ETHICS" on it.

    John McCain's Straight Talk Express runs on fossil fuels.

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:21:46 PM PDT

  •  Considering Fox News (4.00 / 3)

    I don't think that the Media should be given the Media exemption any more. That's the whole problem for me.
    •  That about sums it up (4.00 / 2)

      I agree with Ms Darr's general principle that the media should be separate from partisan activists.  However, since that is obviously not the case for traditional media, there is no reason to impose that standard on the new media.  If however, they want to tighten up the media exemption so that partisan activities are regulated and disclosed more strictly by ALL media, I am ok with that.
  •  my favorite blogger (4.00 / 2)

    Publius is my favorite old school blogger, that was the screen-name used by a group-blog named the Federalist Papers.

    Publius pushed some political issues, including the first amendment, which uses the word "press" not "journalist" -- for a reason.

  •  media exemption? (none / 1)

    Is a performing artist a political action committee? When is expressing a belief, opinion, or perspective political speech? Would Bob Dylan have been subject to campaign finance laws?
  •  wsj springs to mind - especially op-ed (none / 1)

    As an extremely partisan organization which has no problem playing fast and loose with facts when it suits them.

    Here are a couple letters I sent to the wsj this year calling them on this.. Did they publish them? course not. damn liberal media! ha!

    in response to
    this article:
    i wrote


    to: christopher cooper, john mckinnon

    I am curious about your article in the WSJ.

    Is your piece "white house press room as policial stage" an editorial or reportage piece? I couldnt tell..

    If it is an editioral, I guess that slanting of facts could be excused.

    If it is an actual piece of reporting I am curious about your selective use of facts to depict
    Russell Mohkiber. You first introduce him as a "Ralph Nader volunteer" -
    and seem to imply that he is the equivalent of Jeff Gannon/Guckert in
    terms of credibility.

    However you never explicitly state the obvious - Mohkiber, though his questioning style in the press room is confrontational, actually engages
    in original factual research and investigative journalism... in fact I note that he is referenced as a fact source by the WSJ on Feb 17th,  as
    well having been cited  as a source by the National Law Journal, the New York Times, and the Washington Post  in Jan of 2005.

    What actual journalism did Gannon ever engage in? - Unless we count the "John Kerry Intern affair" non-story?  Which though creative and original,
    turned out to be false. oops.

    and to a James Taranto (op-ed)
    http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/rnc/9696/

    Sigh,  what do you call it when writers make  false accusations... and then engage in the very error they impugn?

    Hypocrisy?  Really bad journalism? Jeff Gannon (Wait, I mean James Guckert) writing for GOPNEWS.com?  Nope, guess again, it's James Taranto, on the pages of the Wall Street Journal. I found this out from bloggers who checked the facts.. It's a sad state of affairs when  bloggers are reality-based and  big-name papers print wild-eyed  falsehoods and call it "opinion."

    I would like to offer my services for hire as a fact-checker,  since it seems the WSJ opinion writers and  editorial staff are not competent and allow egregious falsehoods to go unchecked.. (The error is not just tangential, it is the entire point of the article... Since it is false, Taranto's whole piece explodes in a "puff" of smoke.)
    -----
    BY JAMES TARANTO
    Monday, April 11, 2005

    Trickery Dickory Dock

    John Kerry, the haughty, French-looking Massachusetts Democrat, who by the way served in Vietnam*, showed up yesterday at a Boston event, where he was "using crutches as he recovers from knee surgery," reports the Associated Press. He was also using emotional crutches as he recovers from last year's election:

        "Last year too many people were denied their right to vote, too many who tried to vote were intimidated," the Massachusetts senator said at an event sponsored by the state League of Women Voters. . . .

        Kerry also cited examples Sunday of how people were duped into not voting.

        "Leaflets are handed out saying Democrats vote on Wednesday, Republicans vote on Tuesday. People are told in telephone calls that if you've ever had a parking ticket, you're not allowed to vote," he said.

    Where did Kerry come up with that idea about leaflets saying "Democrats on Wednesday"? Probably from this story, which appeared a week before the election:
    ---

    And he goes on to cite a story from the Onion - a satirical publication.

    Hmm or maybe Kerry got it from the Washington Post?. Had the WSJ bothered to look, they could have easily discovered that both The Washington Post and the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review had  published these stories. (See the dailykos blog  where I read this for more info:)
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/11/195440/730

    The WSJ, not John Kerry is  the one who is unable to engage in rudimentary fact-checking..  It's not Kerry's fault that modern-day Republican extremists  are so flagrant in their dirty tricks that satire is near impossible.  What was written as hyperbole ends up being eerily prescient.

    Media matters, http://mediamatters.org/items/200501260005 reports that Taranto is a repeat offender- He accused John Kerry of  calling Cheney's lesbian daughter  names, when Kerry had done no such thing, and while in fact Alan Keyes, a prominent Republican had called Mary Cheney a "selfish hedonist."

    Look its clear that Taranto is still simmering with nasty feelings for Kerry ...  But  I think if Taranto has it in for Kerry on a personal level, he needs to step out from behind the protection of the elitist banner of  WSJ "opinion" and  just duke it out mano-a-mano  - and stop  lobbing stink-bombs onto the pages of a sometimes fine publication.  On the other hand, maybe that's a bad idea.  From the tone and content of his editorials, It sounds like he's the kind of bully who would sneer while he kicked  crutches from a cripple.

    However, the next time he writes an editiorial, I suggest that the WSJ float it first on a  Democratic blog ... I bet the bloggers do a better job  in vetting the facts.... and they'll do it for free!

    Who will hold the WSJ oped to the same standards we hold blogs to? Do facts have any place in WSJ "opinion"?  Tomorrow will I read in the WSJ that:  "Elvis lives and is pregnant with Hillary Clinton's illegitimate love child"?   If I want that kind of opinion, I'll stick with the Weekly World News.

    Oh - and tell Taranto:. "Bush won! -Get over it! You can stop bashing Kerry now."

  •  Riddle me this Batman... (4.00 / 2)

    Is Limbaugh an activist or a journalist?

    Is O'reilley an activist or a journalist?

    Is Hannity an activist or a journalist?

    That line they mention above was blown to hell before the term blog even existed.

  •  Type news into occupation/employer (none / 1)

    at opensecrets

    There are hundreds

    Link top name from Newsweek

  •  Ugh. GWU is my alma mater. (none / 1)

    I'm never giving them a red cent again.

    -fink

    Al Gore didn't lose in 2000. America did.

    by fink on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:41:25 PM PDT

  •  It seems to me... (4.00 / 2)

    ...this can be boiled down into a couple major themes that all cut against IPDI's position.

    1. Media status as elites.  Blogs have flattened the reporting industry -- and frankly, they've become more relevant.  The media conglomerates are losing market share.  This explains their motivation.  

    The most offensive part of this argument to me is that some of the same people talking down blogs out of one side of their mouth advocate for free markets our of the other.  NBC Nightly News is today's buggy whip.  What the FEC is attempting to do is nothing more than intervene in a market in which more competitive, nimbler and better qualified competition has emerged, using better technology and techniques to deliver news and opinion.  Its like Major League Baseball's antitrust exemption for media dinosaurs. Hooey.

    Media elite status should be a decision that the market makes -- and by market I mean the "marketplace of ideas."

    2. Media privilege/exemption.  The media exemption is really just a legal fiction, as other posters note the litany of "journalists" who are little more than partisan hacks.  The decision facing the FEC is whether to continue the willful blindness and pretend that the legal fiction is meaningful, or to open the market up and simply require disclosure.

    Forced to disclose relationships and allegiances, the media will lose its undeserved place atop the pedestal.  So too, by the way, will other blogging hacks that skew too much one way or the other.  Partisanship will inspire the legions on either side and those who aim for neutrality (a fruitless pursuit many would say) will capture the vast middle ground.  But nobody's place will be guaranteed.

    3.  "Actual Privileges."

    Members of the "established" media are granted privileges -- access is an obvious example -- that newcomers are not.  One consequence of a truly open system, based on trust and disclosure and quality will mean that we have to live with the consequences of a subjective process that does the weeding out of the "good" from the "bad."  That process will never be perfect, and it will likely favor moneyed corporate interests (and it may favor partisanship at times), but it at least opens the door and provides a chance for upward mobility for those outside looking in.

    Another privilege in this regard is more literal. Right now the Supreme Court doesn't recognize a journalistic privilege (to withhold sources) -- Eugene Volukh among others has commented that blogs open a troubling possibility as to who "qualifies" as a member of the media where privileges are established (e.g. in some states). If "everyone" can simply don the cloak of being a "journalist," then there are obstruction issues that are legitimately worth some dialogue.

    At the end of the day, IPDI is doing little more than protecting the corporate interests of the current media giants.

    My two cents.

  •  That last quote nails it. (none / 1)

    The ramifications of the bloggers' demand are enormous. The issue before the FEC goes to the heart of the fundamental questions that define a democracy's relationship to a free press: Who should be treated as a journalist, and what special privileges, if any, should they receive?

    How about this - no special privileges? Instead, any and all citizens should have the same access and privileges as all journalists.

    That takes nothing away from journalism - in fact, it makes everyone a journalist.

    From this quote, it seems that she is blatantly about maintaining unearned power. If your power is earned, other people having the same power doesn't take it away from you. If your power to do something is based on that power being denied to others, you are on the wrong side of freedom.

    Clearly she feels that the average citizen doesn't have a right to report the news - or she would feel ashamed to publicly make this kind of statement...

    "Think. It ain't illegal yet." - George Clinton

    by jbeach on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:46:26 PM PDT

  •  Court ruling (none / 1)

    I'd have to go do some research to be exact, but a few years ago, an on-line journalist named Al Giodano, running his own website called "NarcoNews" won a court ruling from a federal court in NY that his enterprise was in all ways entitled to the same protections as a corporate news media operation like the NY Times.

    I'd have to go digging through the archives of his website for the details, but at least at the Circuit court level of the federal court system, there is a precedent established that there can legally be no difference between an internet news operation and a corporate news operation.

    Depending on how that goes, it might be an interesting precedent to cite challenging any rules that say that the corporate media has different rights from the citizen media.

    The Mexican bank Banamex was suing him in NY courts for libel, so the court case is something involving the names Banamex v Giordano or Narconews.

    BTW, www.narconews.com is often a good read.  Especially when anything is happening south of the US border.  For instance, if you want to know what's going on in say Boliva, or Venezuela during a crisis, its a pretty good alternate source to the US corporate media (which is frequently somewhere between awful and completely full of mammal excretions).

    --Come to Denver in 2008! www.recreate68.org

    by COBear on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:52:36 PM PDT

  •  Two ways to go (none / 1)

    Like many of you, I don't see much of a difference between Fox News, the National Review, The American Prospect, and Daily Kos.  I don't believe that it is fair to exempt one of these and not all the others.  We have a choice though - a choice to push for exemptions for all, or exemptions for none.  While I think it would be more difficult from a legal perspective, I find the fact that Fox News can spend unlimited funds on what amounts to political activity alarming.  I would like to see the FEC strengthen, not weaken regulation of the media.  If that means bloggers are covered too, so be it.

    Another option is to enforce strict rules for what a journalist can and can't do.  The writer of the letter that sparked this discussion brought up one such example - those receiving the journalist exemption would not be allowed to solicit funds for a campaign.  I'm sure other reasonable rules could be developed as well.

    What do you folks think?

  •  Wow she is not bright... (none / 1)

    Sounds like she is pissed that the Bloggers are doing the job that was once done by news...

    I am a man without a Nation, but I have a voice... Specious Reasoning

    by Ioo on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 03:56:16 PM PDT

  •  Shield Law?? (none / 1)

    The shield law is now folklore, relegated to urban legend, supported by the tale of Deep Throat.

    Ask Jim Taricani of WJAR-TV what "shield law" means, and he'll show you the home incarceration ankle bracelet he gets to wear for protecting his FBI source.

    And while I'm here, I think it's an important distinction that blogs, like newspapers, are different from TV and radio in that they are a pull vs. a push type medium.

    1/20/2009 will mark the end of an error.

    by winstnsmth on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 04:08:13 PM PDT

  •  And then what? (none / 1)

    What's next - regulation of conversations of a political nature held over dinner?  Well, only if one person picks up the check...   Geeez

    http://asilentcacophony.blogspot.com

  •  The Primary Difference (none / 1)

    The primary difference that I've noticed between bloggers and journalists is that blogger TELL YOU what their partisan leanings are. Whether it's Kos, Atrios, Sirota, or Assrocket, LGF, Krempasky, etc., almost every blogger let's you know if they're liberal, conservative, or where they lie in between.

    Mainstream journalists, OTOH, do everything they can to HIDE their poltical leanings while slanting stories one way or the other (and these days, its usually the other).

    •  The big thing is hate mail (none / 1)

      Personally, I like reporters who try to be neutral and columnists who are swing voters. I like Paul Krugman because he publishes so much great analysis, but, in general, I'm as impatient with columnists who agree with me all of the time as I am afraid of wingnuts who like Karl Rove.

      On the other hand, readers will give openly opinionated columnists more leeway than they give reporters. Readers will lynch reporters who, in response to the forces of tight budgets and tight deadlines, include slightly fewer quotes from one side than from the other.

      So, it could be that news organizations will become more openly opinionated just to inoculate reporters from hate mail and bricks thrown through windows.

    •  Bloggers are more honest (none / 1)

      Recently ArchPundit wrote a post about the Cook County Clerk and at the end he had a disclosure note that the Clark had been a former advertiser on the blog.  That one act alone makes bloggers more credible and honest than 99% of the corporate media.
  •  political "infiltration" of the MSM (none / 1)

    The claim by these media types that bloggers threaten their precious objectivity and independence is just silly. Yeah, some MSM reporters and columnists give money to candidates and campaigns, but more important, LOTS AND LOTS of corporate execs (who really call the shots in most big MSM) are highly partisan and give lots of money to campaigns. Here's a fun exercise: Go to the FEC website, click on campaign reports then search database, then advanced search (this should take you right there) and type in, say, "HEARST" under employer, and see what you turn up. Or type in CBS, or any of the other big chains. You'll find lots of publishers, vice presidents, CEOs etc. giving big money to candidates at all federal levels.

    Everyone throws a fit if some low-level type (or a blogger) gives a dollar to some worthy cause or candidate, but when the top people do it, it's fine (and there's not even any talk of disclosure.)

  •  democracy in action (none / 1)

    This blog and the whole lot of them allow the people to have a voice... and that is what democracy is aboout a right to FREE expression.

    The corporate media is makig itself obsolete by it's selling itself to the highest bidder... and using the old revolving door thing.

    The people are seeing that the MSM is basically more and more a waste of time and unreliable... and untruthful and biased.

    The internets are where its at... and owning all the channels is not really possible... so it IS the VOX POPOLI... and the PowerElites see that they are losing control of the message.  It's a matter of time...many people don't even bother with teevee anymore and most know that bloviator tawk radio is 98% rubbbish.

    Long live dKos!

  •  Activist Journalist? (none / 1)

    Say it with me now.

    RobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakR obertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRo bertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovakRobertNovak

    Fucker.

    The stronger the Constitution, the strong America's constitution.

    by electricgrendel on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 05:00:00 PM PDT

  •  Two words - Armstrong Williams (4.00 / 2)

    I suppose this sanctimonious fool, Ms Darr, would consider Armstrong Williams a journalist.  Heh.

    Who should be treated as a journalist, and what special privileges, if any, should they receive?

    Simple. Anybody who writes.  The priviledge is to publish, speak or blog whatever they want.  See: Constitution, United States of America, Amendment I.

    Blogs arose, and have become so important precisely because the "traditional journalists" have simply  abrogated their reponsibilites, not to mention their honor. Since when does FOX "publish" anything but propaganda? WHy does the MSM ignore vital stories?

    Darr is simply afraid - of blogging and the truth.  She should be.

    If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. ~James Madison

    by mjshep on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 05:01:17 PM PDT

  •  Blogger resemble nothing moreso than (4.00 / 3)

    The kind pf "press" that existed at the time just before the War of Independence. the kind of press that was run by Ben Franklin, and exactly the free press that the Founding Fathers decided was so essential to the freedom of the new form of democratic republic they wanted to start.

    The very idea of a "professional" journalist, would have been foreign to them, as well as a press that attempted to be objective.
    The early press in this nation resembled the kind of press that we see in England or France today, which clearly have political learnins and just as clearly express them. This is the king of "journalism that we see on "Rush Limbaugh's" "Bill O'Reilly's" talk radio programs, on the right, and Air American on the left.

    The only difference is that the bloggers, on both sides, have almost forced the so called "professional" media into doing there jobs, by presenting information that these so called professionals have "filtered" out of the public arena. The "professional" journalists have in fact failed the test set for the free press which was established in the constitution, by failing to act as a check to the administration in power, and sometimes forcing them to  start presenting information that may embarass the politicians.

    Thus, the right, though the blogs, forced the events that led to Dan Rathers demise, which of course was acceptable to the powers that be, but right now, when the shoe is on the other foot, and this pressure from the blogs is forcing the professional media to start looking at the many flaw in the Bush Adminisrations, the media, now no longer a 4th branch of government, is attempting to protect the government, in order to keep its access to the White House press office and the press conferences that now resemble parties for the wealthy.

    The little people are taking back the idea of freedom of the press, and the priviledge that being close to power that has rubbed off on the press is threatened by the bloggers.

    They are doing nothing more but protecting the priviledge that that they have gained, and are doing nothing more than protecting it.

    After all, since Woodward and Bernstein broke the Watergate story, or the Pentagon Papers were pubished, there really has been no "real" investigaitve reporting in the United States, unless perhaps you consider the press coverage of the conservative impeachement of Bill Clinton. And while the right wing talk shows and the religious right continually discusses the "liberal media" the media obviously belongs  to the Republican party, and the attacks on the so called "Liberal" media is merely smoke, created by the right in order to assure that if the press actually stumbles onto a story that may do to the Republicans what the Washington Post did to Nixon, the stories will die quickly, and public opinion be shaped before their can ever be a follow up story. The attacks on Dan Rather were a clear indication that the conservative coalition will never again allow the press to create the environment that will be the undoing of any one of them when they are in power.

    But the blogs cannot be controlled in this way. Bloggers aew generally not part of the White House press corps. They are the press of not only the political enviroment, but they are the press that watches the press. When the American Press ignores something that the rest of the world focuses on, the bloggers point out what is absent in the "professional" press.

    What the elitists of the media object to, is that there is now a watchdog watching the press, as repeated inbreeding has turned a press that was once a real watchdog, into a toy breed. The professional media is now a showdog, awarding each other as best of breed, and attempting to keep out the mongrels who who fight on the streets, amd may nip at their heels when their master takes them out for walks, with their expensive collars, their carefuuly groomed and cleaned coats, and most important, their very short leashes.

    All this amounts to is an attempt to write leash laws for the mutts they think are unpedigreed, who bark too loudly, and who bite unexpectedly. And who have the exquisite sense of smell that has been carefully bred out of them.

  •  surprising AOL poll (4.00 / 2)

    Slightly off topic, but there's a poll and a story running on the splash of AOL right now, which are based on this AP wire in which Ted Turner says "CNN should cover international news and the environment, not the 'pervert of the day,'" network founder Ted Turner said Wednesday as the first 24-hour news network turned 25.

    Turner says CNN focuses too much on perverts

    I was entirely surprised by these results from the AOL poll. So the AOL poll asks:

    Which type of news stories do you prefer?

    Results:
    Serious 93%
    Sensational 7%

    What do you think of the news coverage you see?

    Results:
    It's too sensational 84%
    It's balanced 13%
    It's too serious 3%

    Total Votes: 56,573

    So, uh, remind me again why the cable news channels are doing so poorly? And why the ratings of Fox News are plummeting? Because, apparently, the news isn't serving the public any more. No one bloody cares about "runaway brides", and endless endless endless court cases that go on forever and concern only a minute number of people (Nancy Grace, you're first in line here you hack), and endless celebrity (that's what the celebrity gossip shows are for not every single news show), and shouting debate programs. These are reasons why blogging is huge; these are reasons why people are turning off the news, and perhaps why newspaper subscriptions are down. Real journalists are too bogged down by corporate interests and bottom lines made up of false assumptions about what the public wants to know.

  •  Why the Media Panders to Big Government (none / 1)

    What kind of traitor puts the Constitution first and the candidate second? :)

    by cskendrick on Thu Jun 02, 2005 at 05:38:14 PM PDT

  •  Frank Luntz (none / 1)

    I still can't believe MSNBC paraded him out as an "independent" pollster.  He wrote the fucking Contract on America!  How many journalistic standards did it break to not disclose his true political leanings every time he spoke?  How unethical was it to have him on at all without a liberal counterpoint?  MSNBC showed they have no standards whatsoever.
  •  My conspiracy theory for the moment. (none / 1)

    So- it just occurred to me.  Writing and opinion are not at stake here.  Neither is the "privileges" extended to the SCLM.

    What's at stake here is publishing.  That is the bottleneck for journalism.  It's an expensive enterprise and only capitains of capital have been able to publish lately.  It is the power of those people who can afford the presses that trickles down the editor, news editor, manager, etc.  Just as the power of a police officer is the trickle-down authority of the public.  We give th