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I have read with great amusement the antics of Mike from Florida on Keith Olbermann's show, kickin' some O'Reilly ass.

But it's so small time. Why is that pervert still in a media chair? O'Reilly is a sexual predator. He should have lost his job over the Mackris case. He should be a media pariah. It is our fault he isn't. He gave us the sharpened sword, and we refused to run him through. Why?

We need to finish O'Reilly off. Right now.

Bill Clinton, loved around the world, guilty of little more than Prosperity-gate, was ruined over consensual sex. Ruined. He could not even fight back against al Qaeda without the Right screaming "Wag the Dog!" and "No war for Monica!"

O'Reilly sexually harassed and stalked a co-worker. Then he threatened her. Those are crimes, people. She gave us the transcript. He settled, after issuing all manner of vile threats to her. This is not (just) funny. The guy is a criminal. Just because he got her to "shut up!" doesn't mean we have to.

O'Reilly should've been toast after settling with Mackris. Seriously, what the HELL? O'Reilly should be washed up. On skid row somewhere. Period.

We can still do it. We can still do the right thing. We can still hold that dangerous pervert accountable. But we need to be relentless. We need to be as ruthless as O'Reilly is to his critics on this one. For the nation's sake, and for what sanity we might possibly rescue from his viewers.

O'Reilly is a sexual predator. No one should be saying or writing or thinking "Bill O'Reilly" without the words "sexual predator" attached to it. No one should be interviewed about BOR on the air without calling him a "sexual predator." Every one of us who calls into him should get the words "you are a sexual predator" in before he pushes the "dump" button. Media people should be asking if BOR is allowed around children, and if parents feel safe with kids near BOR. Every argument BOR makes should be dismissed as the vile oozings of a sexual predator. Boycotts and protests of FOX should be centered around FOX's celebration and promotion of a sexual predator. Complaints to advertisers should be prefaced with asking them why their "family conscious" company advertises for a sexual predator. What message are they sending to the kids? Such companies should be accused of sponsoring sexual predation.

Bill O'Reilly is after our children. He even wrote a book targeting kids. A book for kids! By a sexual predator! FOX parents should be reminded every day that every time they turn on BOR, they are letting a sexual predator in the house, to influence their kids. Any parent who buys BOR's book is buying the work of a sexual predator for their kids. How is that responsible parenting?

It would have been wonderful if Olbermann had raised enough to rescue the actual Mackris tapes. We do have the transcript, and plenty of people who can do a dead-ringer BOR voice, and who can make dance-mixes and raps and Wagner pieces with them. But what is dangerous about this is the temptation to view the Mackris incident merely as an irresistible chance to ridicule.

We must get past the joy of ridicule to the righteousness of outrage, at least as it should be modeled to these holier-than-thou sex-police right wingers. Why should one of the Right's main defenders (and Clinton evicerators) get away with sexual harassment and stalking, when they butchered our guy over consensual sex?

We need to master this talking point, and spread the word so that it blankets blogsylvania and penetrates the SCLM. We should at least be able to take this page from the "Rove frame" playbook, since it involves fact. Bill O'Reilly is a sexual predator. He should not be in a media position to influence kids. He should not be left alone with kids. He should not be allowed to buy his way out of the social consequences of harassment and stalking. FOX should be ashamed of promoting sexual predation by retaining BOR. We will not rest until BOR is run out on a rail.

By the way, if BOR decides to sue over this, won't the discovery process be fun?

UPDATE: I guess I need to explain that although I am serious about the critical nature of sexual harassment and stalking, and my belief that someone guilty of it in his own workplace should not retain his job as a bully-pulpit sexual morality pundit, my tone and word-choice are meant as a satirical mirror of Right-Wing-Hysteria-Speak. I think a little targeted parody, by using their own language against them, can go a long way here, and should. The Right's own thugs should be held to the standards they pontificate about every day, IMHO.

But for those of you who are truly squeamish about playing hardball (ugh) with O'Reilly, how about a parallel campaign (as I mentioned below) to get O'Reilly to sign an affidavit--sound familiar?--swearing that the Mackris allegations against him are untrue?

"Mr. O'Reilly, we are disturbed by the implications of this lawsuit, and your agreement to settle without explanation. These are serious charges. Please relieve our concern by swearing to your innocence on paper, under oath. It will take five minutes. Thank you."

Then the perjury trial. Then the discovery process. Then the tapes in O'Reilly's own voice. Or, it comes out that Mackris made it all up and somehow got millions of dollars out of O'Reilly because, well, he is easily intimidated and just plain likes gutsy women. And he is exonerated in a crescendo of tubas and violins, an innocent man vindicated at last. (Anyone want to take bets on the probability of that outcome, btw?)

Originally posted to kennedy joss on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 07:59 AM PST.

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  •  Activate the Sex Crimes Unit (4.00)
    .. of the left wing. WE'RE coming after YOU, Bill.
    •  Put Michael Moore (4.00)
      on the case - that might be funny

      -4.63,-3.54 If the people will lead the leaders will follow

      by calebfaux on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:12:12 AM PST

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    •  Link to transcripts? (none)
      I've never read them.

      The Christian Right is neither Witness Every Day

      by TXsharon on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:52:12 AM PST

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    •  I'll photoshop him into an episode... (4.00)
      of Law and Order: SVU... let's see him try to keep his hands off of Mariska Hargitay... She'd kick his butt or maybe taser him... what a hoot... ; )

      Dudehisattva... <div style="color: #0000a0;">"Generosity, Ethics, Patience, Effort, Concentration, and Wisdom"&l

      by Dood Abides on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:57:49 AM PST

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    •  I disagree (4.00)
      with a heavy heart. As juicy as this is, O'Reilly ws not found guilty no did he admit to those acts. We can not in good standing find him guilty by accusation. Mackris, for her own reasons, chose to accept the deal--without having o'Reilly publicly admit any blame. She owned that, and we have to too, I think. I would be below us not too.

      You didn't do it.

      by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:33:19 AM PST

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      •  well (none)
        For most people, I would agree with you. However, O'Reilly does not grant this benefit of the doubt to his enemies, why should we do the same for him?
        •  I think you (none)
          have to reread what you just wrote and rethink it. "For most people"? How many ae we allowed to do it to? One. A thousand. All except one? It's an unsupportable position, and one we'd condemn others for, rightly so.

          You didn't do it.

          by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:51:07 AM PST

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          •  i understand.. but (none)
            Anyone who is so blatantly disingenuous in their arguments as BOR does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. It isn't about a number.

            When you settle a lawsuit against you, you admit guilt. Yes, the legal agreement says he admits no guilt, etc., but please. The reality is he paid to have this go away. Why help him make it go away? If this man had his way this site would not exist.
            •  NO YOU DO NOT (none)
              i just wrote about this below, but lots of settlements are made to end litigation. And defensibly so.

              And your first sentence nails it: this isnt about the Mackris case. it's about a liar and a fool, and it should be kept about that.

              You didn't do it.

              by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:07:37 AM PST

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              •  yes, you do. (none)
                Again, I don't care about the legalities. When you settle to end a case, in my mind and in many non-lawyer minds, you admit some amount of guilt, even ignoring the context of this case. Once you throw in the context of O'Reilly's constant denials until the transcripts came out, it becomes all the more clear. Again, O'Reilly doesn't grant people a benefit of the doubt, I'm sure as hell not going to grant it to him.

                Obviously, we disagree so I don't think anything productive will come out of continuing this discussion.
                •  Disagreement is productive (none)
                  I don't think ill of anyone for disagreeing, except maybe that "knife-to-the-gut" asshole, but that doesn't matter.

                  And legalities aside, Mackris agreed to a settlement that specifically found "no wrong-doing" on anybody's part. and every lawyer, for you or for me or for anybody accused, would tell their client to shut the fuck up.

                  I think O'Reilly did it, for the record, but I don't think that trumps "innocent until proven guilty".

                  You didn't do it.

                  by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 11:12:31 AM PST

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          •  I just want to note (none)
            the Republicans shun the high road you advocate.  In fact, they invent slanderous lies when a wisp of a rumor of misbehavior cannot be found for their enemy.  Swift Boat, Murtha, the 8 years of the "grasping at straws" special, dogged, expensive prosecution investigations of Clinton.

            You don't have to lie here.  Just refer to the transcript he settled for a ton o moolah.

    •  I disagree (none)
      with a heavy heart. As juicy as this is, O'Reilly ws not found guilty no did he admit to those acts. We can not in good standing find him guilty by accusation. Mackris, for her own reasons, chose to accept the deal--without having o'Reilly publicly admit any blame. She owned that, and we have to too, I think. I would be below us not too.

      You didn't do it.

      by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:33:19 AM PST

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      •  I swear (none)
        I did not press that button twice.

        You didn't do it.

        by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:34:07 AM PST

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      •  I appreciate.. (none)
        your point of view. But in my mind, paying this woman hush-money (6 million, I believe it was?) after threatening her the way he did is enough evidence to cost him his "morals police" job.

        Besides, he could just come out and deny the charges, right? But he hasn't. Why is that, do you suppose?

        Mackris saved herself a lot of pain by settling the case, but I don't believe that should relieve O'Reilly of responsibility.

        He does us a lot of harm every day from his bully pulpit, spreading fear and disinformation.

        He harassed and stalked his co-worker because he thought he could get away with anything. Then he thought he could use money to make his misdeeds go away. He forged the "sex policeman" sword, and he should fall on it, IMHO. :)

        •  an aspect of that accusation (none)
          that is so often ignored is that if you accuse O'Reilly of paying "hush-money,' then you accuse Mackris of accepting "hush-money". A pretty vile accusation, isn't it? Some here might want to make it, but not me.

          We all know that some caes are setled out of court simply to get it over with. some would rather pay than go to a trial--even if they're innocent. I can't blame anyone for that. it's anybody's choice and life is large with unseen reasons for doing things.

          Say Franken was accused by someone of this. And a "transcript" of a phone call--not a recording--was released. And he settles out of court. Maybe he's innocent, and after lots of talking with his ife, he decdes it's just better to end it, even if he wasn't completely cleared. I'd be quick, perhaps, to believe that the transcript was fake, and to ive Al the benefit of the  doubt. I therefore have to extend the reasoning to like cases.

          You didn't do it.

          by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:05:49 AM PST

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          •  Generous... (none)
            but not realistic, I don't think. Franken would never allow such charges to stand, he would be outraged and call the false accusation the slander it is. He would countersue!

            And indeed, falsely accusing someone of sexual harassment and stalking is also a crime--libel, slander, the works. You don't think attack-dog O'Reilly would have defended himself if he had a prayer? He is hardly the type to back down.

            I think Mackris settled to save herself more turmoil, and because O'Reilly's settling is tantamount to confesion in the public eye.

            You raise fair points, though, high-road friend.

            But I don't think holding O'Reilly against the fire of his own language, at least until he publicly denies the charges, is unfair in this case.

            •  Oh man (none)
              Now we're going from guilt by accusation to claiming to know what Franken would do. I could easily see the possibility of ending somehting so the kids don't have to hear about it for the length of what would certainly be a lengthy and very public trial. You can not say what Franken would do.

              You didn't do it.

              by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:21:00 AM PST

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              •  Tell you what.. (none)
                I will call him and ask.
                •  It doesn't work that way (none)
                  It's not that simple. You can't tell what even you'd do in such a situation. A well-done smear can work. It has.

                  You didn't do it.

                  by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:27:44 AM PST

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                  •  I'd certainly settle for... (none)
                    a campaign to get O'Reilly to sign an affidavit (sound familiar?) swearing that the Mackris allegations against him are untrue.

                    "Mr. O'Reilly, we are disturbed by the implications of this lawsuit, and your agreement to settle without explanation. These are serious charges. Please relieve our concern by swearing to your innocence on paper, under oath. It will take five minutes. Thank you."

                    All cleared up.

                    •  I so strongly disagree (none)
                      that is witch hunt type action. Why should he sign anything you put before him. I sure as fuck wouldn't. And no lawyer would advise it.

                      Kerry was accuse of shooting a kid in the back in Vietnam. if the Swifters put an affidavit in front of him and said he should swear he didnt'd, should he have signed it? No fucking way. It's a bad tactic.

                      You didn't do it.

                      by Earl on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 11:57:13 AM PST

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            •  not everything is a crime (none)
              Nobody on kos LIKES Bill O'Reilly, but this whole discussion is teeth-grittingly inprecise.  In fact, libel and slander mostly aren't crimes, and people bring frivolous lawsuits all the time, usually without incurring even civil penalties, much less criminal ones (not saying the case here was frivolous--we don't know because it was settled without being litigated).  Nor is everything that O'Reilly was accused of criminal.  And what the heck does "sexual predator" mean?  That term is tossed around quite a bit these days, but I'll bet that people would disagree wildly about who gets put into the box.

              Anyway, I didn't hold with the media-mob mentality when it attacked Bill Clinton, or when it attacks Howard Dean, and I don't hold with it when you put together a bunch of unproven allegations and assume they're true about Bill O'Reilly.  It's fine to mock him for this stuff, but getting all righteous and demanding that he be crushed like a bean for a civil lawsuit that he settled is way over the top.

              Take him on for what's really wrong with him!  He's a lying tool of fascism, without honor, without honesty, without heart!

              •  Individual states.. (none)
                define "stalking," "sexual harassment," and "hostile work environment."

                Stalking is a crime in my state.

                In this case, the suit claimed O'Reilly violated Mackris' rights according to NY State Human Rights Law Executive law section 290, paragraphs 1-85 inclusive.

                I define a sexual predator as someone who repeatedly approaches someone sexually (with words, deeds, presence) after they have been told the approach is unwelcome. In O'Reilly's case he tossed in threats to boot:

                "If any woman ever breathed a word, I'll make her pay so dearly that she'll wish she'd never been born. I'll rake her through the mud, bring up things in her life and make her so miserable that she'll be destroyed. And nobody would believe her; it'd be her word against mine, and who are they going to believe? Me or some unstable woman making outrageous accusations?"

                Yeah. Sexual predator material in my book. Would you want this guy after your wife/mother/daughter?

      •  With all due respect (none)
        You simply don't get it.

        I have to agree with the jist of the original poster.  Bill O'Reilly is a sack of shit.  We all know it, and the harassment settlement pretty much proves it.  Not because of the money paid, but because of the evidence leaked.

        It's probably not right to call him a Sexual Predator.  But he's certainly a asshat and a philanderer.

        Doesn't matter if he was found guilty in a court of law, you can still make the point.

        (0.00,-3.13) "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it."

        by Steve4Clark on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 02:49:23 PM PST

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    •  I could see it now on my TV: (none)
      "In punditry, there are two powerful and important groups.  The first is the netroots-liberal activists who look out for the poor and the Constitution.  The other are the conservative talking heads who look out for rich people and oil companies.  These are there stories."

      All this while looking at a blue and red logo on a black background that says: DailyKos: Special Victims Unit."

      •  you forgot the necessary (none)
        bum bum

        sound  :)

        I wanna watch Ice-T wipe the smirk off O'Liely's face! I wanna see Richard Belzer bury him in cynical facts until he wimpers for mercy!

        Ignorance killed the cat. Curiousity was framed.

        by Lashe on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:25:26 AM PST

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        •  I wanna watch (none)
          Vincent d'Onofrio catch him in a lie. I wanna watch Kathryn Erbe make one of her spot-on clever remarks as the show goes to break. I wanna watch Sam Waterston nail him on the stand and make him cry like a little boy.
    •  Kennedy, are you saying that (4.00)
      Bill O'Reillyis a Sexual Predator?
      Because i did not know that Bill O'Reillywas a Sexual Predator!
      If someone had told me that Bill O'Reillywas a Sexual Predator, then I would have told my mom that Bill O'Reillywas a Sexual Predator.
      •  oops (none)
        just click on the sexual predator links y'all
      •  That is some poll (none)
        So biased!

        "Which politician would you trust most to solve complicated problems?"

        And four choices, Bush, Cheney, Dean, or H. Clinton.

        Never mind that two are currently serving in the highest offices of the land, and one isn't even a government official.  This question totally glosses over the fact that the Democrats on the list have a VERY limited capacity to solve problems single-handedly at the moment.  I notice he didn't put Kerry, Edwards, Gore, or W. Clinton in his jerkoff poll, now did he?  

        But am I really surprised?

        War is NOT a preventative measure.

        by demandcaring on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 02:14:35 PM PST

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    •  A better plan (none)
      The best way to deal with O'reilley is to ignore him.  He's doing a fantastic job of making himself irrelevant so just stand back and let it happen.  The more his ratings drop, the more he'll scream and flail about, and the more people will see him for the wind bag that he is.

      The last thing we should do is make any effort to go after him.  Then the media has a story to run with and then he can talk about the VLWC coming to get him.  Don't feed his paranoia, just let him fade away like he's doing already.

      --- If trickle down economics worked, Marie Antoinette wouldn't have lost her head

      by sterno on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 02:03:15 PM PST

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    •  Did you know? (none)
      that Bill O is an entertainer.  He makes his living selling goods and services on the radio.  Why would anyone with more than a dim IQ listen?
      •  Those... (none)
        "goods and services" deceive a lot of people, and get them to vote for weasels and crooks. O'Reilly, unfortunately, has huge political capital and there are many who set their political watch by him.

        Hence the "sexual predator" angle. It is what turned  a lot of these people against Clinton. It will kill his credibility to these dupes. What O'Reilly is accused of (and settled to make go away) is way worse than Clinton's mistakes.

    •  DaliyKos SVU (none)
      Ok. That's funny.

      I laughed.

      If it wasn't for the good times fun moments, I would never waste my time with you people.

      I'm not so big on hippies, but I do love the funny.

      Lou Dobbs is the straight dope. Volvo Liberal is the clown.

      by DLC Overlord on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 02:21:18 PM PST

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  •  Sorry, about that. (none)
    I got distracted with the telephone and unrec'd your diary. I'm sorry! :(

    "...the United States is looking forward to eating Indian mangoes." - George W. Bush

    by Ari Mistral on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 07:59:49 AM PST

  •  Falling out of the sky (none)
    Bill O'Reilly's fate is sealed.  He is on a parabolic trajectory, and well past his apex.  No one of consequence has ever bothered to listen to him or pay him respect, and for this reason alone I think we should focus our energies on scuttling other, more influential enemies.

    <snark> Like Chris Matthews. </snark>

    Some things are not for sale. Send the Republicans home in 2006.

    by The Termite on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:08:39 AM PST

    •  Once we show.. (4.00)
      we can take one of them out (of the media chair), then others will have been warned. Btw, we now know that Tweety is officially a right-wing whore, and should be dismissed as someone the right wing has "bought."
      •  I Like It (none)
        Very much!

        we now know that Tweety is officially a right-wing whore, and should be dismissed as someone the right wing has "bought."

        Err, has it occurred to you that you kind of have a knack for this?  Mary Beth Cahill (KE04 Camp. Manager) sure could have used your skills a couple years ago!!

    •  Agree, but... (none)
      ..it's important to take him down.  This will do a lot to penetrate the myth of right wing invincibility, and bolster our own confidence and efforts, and willingness to fight.  It will also speak volumes to advertisers, and help defund the right.

      Obnoxious gasbags like O'Really are hugely strategic both because they make civil discourse impossible by legitimizing bullying, and they dupe huge masses of people who could otherwise be in our column.

      There are people for whom this - the dethroning of O'Really, Limbaugh, and Coulter - is a special, personal calling, and you know who you are.  Yes, there are other important strategic goals to focus on, but reclaiming the media is hugely important.

      BTW, I somewhat disagree with the main thrust of this post.  I don't think "O'Reilly = sexual predator" resonates with that many people - most are unaware of this fact.  OTOH, "Obnoxious, lying bully, on prime time television" is what I think of when O'Really comes to mind, and I think this has far greater currency and offense.  But to each their own.

    •  That's so true. (none)
      Karma has already gotten him. He just hasn't realized it yet (he's slow that way).
    •  Yup (none)
      Bill O'reilley is going away.  The only thing he's had going for him is outrage and it's hard to keep the outrage plausible when your objects of worship control all of the goverment.  

      Rush will probably continue to be around though.  He's obnoxious but he's at least entertaining to listen to.  There's a certain personality to what he does that goes beyond O'reilley's anger management issue.  

      And yeah I used to listen to Rush before I reached the age of enlightenment :)

      --- If trickle down economics worked, Marie Antoinette wouldn't have lost her head

      by sterno on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 02:08:34 PM PST

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  •  lets get him! (4.00)
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    You can't lick the system...but you can give it a damn good fondling!

    by buhdydharma on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:11:35 AM PST

  •  Um, maybe you don't understand our justice system (4.00)
    When a liberal or a Democrat does something wrong it's due to our evil nature and we must be punished (or impeached). Republicans and conservatives are pure and good by nature, therefore when they do something, er, "wrong", it's because they were caught in a moment of weakness and therefore need our sympathy and support.

    [/extreme sarcasm]

  •  Media justice.. (4.00)
    is about mastering and repeating a powerful talking point. It's just taken the Left a little longer to get this tactic down, and to learn to take-no-prisoners, and never let up.

    We've allowed this double-standard to flourish because we haven't engaged the fight. It's time to go after BOR like we mean it.

    •  I've been practicing subliminal speaking.. (none)
      Sweet Jebus I hate Bill O'Reilly(cough-pervert-cough), there is not one word of truth that comes out of his (ahem pervert ahem)mouth.

      An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep. - Arab Proverb

      by Esjaydee on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 12:17:01 PM PST

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  •  Fox News is in USDTV's 'family friendly' lineup (4.00)
    and its only news channel. USDTV is currently in 4 test markets with a 5th coming soon.
  •  I'm trying to call into his show and what I'll say (4.00)
    is

    Hi Bill love your show....its nice to see sexual predators can keep their jobs.

    probably get flushed at that point and have to go into hiding from fox security. :)

  •  Or.... (none)
    .....the DA could just prosecute, right? Wasn't the settlement over a civil suit?

    Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell's ass. - Barry Goldwater, 1981

    by Doug in SF on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:24:59 AM PST

  •  Yes, civil suit (none)
    ..but that doesn't mean O'Reilly's actions were not crimes. A DA should have prosecuted it, but it may have meant further stress for the victim.

    Perhaps Mackris hoped that her releasing the transcript and getting BOR to settle was enough to incriminate him, and the public audience would do the rest. Let's not let her down.

  •  Mockery works better (4.00)
    Ever since Colbert came up with truthiness, mockery has been deadly effective at getting to BOR.  He's really losing it lately.  Whenever I hear a winger spout some stupid talking point, I laugh and say, "Where'd you hear that?  From O'Reilly, the father of truthiness?"
    In fact my mom was saying how Wittington shouldn't have snuck up on Cheney implying that the victim was to blame.  So I used the line above.  She looked so embarrassed.  Gee, I hate doing it to my mom but she is one of the resistant ones.  Eventually, something has got to snap her out of it.  

    -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

    by goldberry on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:38:45 AM PST

    •  EXACTLY!! (4.00)
      I was frankly amazed at Keith Olbermann's great use of the "Falafel King" moniker to mock O'Reilly last night.  What's needed is incessant, unmerciful mocking of this guy, in Internet references and calls to his show.

      On all of them:  Rush "Oxycontin" Limbaugh, Sean "I'm REALLY Not Gay" Hannity, the whole bunch.

      Years ago I read and saved a brilliant quote on the effectiveness of such a strategy:

      "A walk down the path of history is crunchy with the crispy corpses of
      those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it
      pulled up to the curb.  Who would have thought such a tiny car could
      contain so many infectious and revolutionary guffaws?  Satires,
      parodies, blue humor, pants-to-the-ground ass-wavings, tea-dumping,
      Modest-Proposal-submiting, seven-dirty-word spewing, flag-burning, frankly
      impolite, just plain rude and improper expressions of ridicule have
      either ignited reform, fanned the flames or kicked the corpse to make
      sure it was dead."

      --Stephen Jones

      Rubus Eradicandus Est.

      by Randomfactor on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:43:41 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Mockery works well.. (none)
        for our side, but it does not shame his viewers or advertisers. We need his viewers and advertisers to be confronted with their support of criminal sexual predation.

        The falafel jokes are great to make us laugh, but they don't get at the root of his misdeeds, and they don't reach his audience with the whole story. O'Reilly didn't just talk dirty to this gal, he stalked and threatened her. Every one of his viewers and sponsors should be asked why they promote a sexual predator. Every one of his arguments, when presented by a defender, should be met with "why do you listen to a sexual predator?" It will destroy his credibility on the right, or bomb their corner on the sexual morals market.

        Every time the Right makes some sexual reference to a Dem, it should be countered with, "Well, now, if you support O'Reilly, you really have no credibility on this issue."

        •  PS (none)
          We can certainly use both mockery AND righteous indignation (hell, they did it so well against Clinton), we should just not forget the power of righteous indignation as a tool, to slice the Right with their own blade. It worked to get Livingston(e) fired after Clinton's impeachment, and worked to bring down Newt as well, and they weren't even predators, just hypocrites!
        •  mockery.. (none)
          I'm with you: the double whammy is best.
          The devil...the prowde spirit...cannot endure to be mocked. -- Thomas More

          Do not be overwhelmed by the enormity of the world's grief...You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it.

          by Albatross on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:08:00 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  His audience (none)
          doesn't even know what falafal is.

          Not the church. Not the state. Women will decide their fate.

          by JaciCee on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:36:58 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  I'll tell you why that doesn't work (none)
          Cause I already tried that with my BOR subject, mom.  She said, "If that woman had the goods on O'Reilly, why didn't she sue him?"  
          Because he paid her mucho dinero to keep her mouth shut, hand over the tapes and go away.  
          "If I were her, I would have sued.  How much money did she get?"
          No one knows.  She signed an agreement not to discuss it.  
          "Well, then, she probably didn't have a case in the first place.  O'Reilly knows how to take care of people who threaten him.  Do you want some more pot roast?"
          She bought an apartment.  In Manhattan.  During the peak of the housing bubble.  Don't you think she got a lot of money?  
          "I just don't believe it because she didn't go public.  She has no case."
          Didn't you read the Falafel tapes?!!
          Oh, nevermind.  

          -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

          by goldberry on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:20:40 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Tell your mom (none)
            she took the money and ran. It was millions.Ask your mom what she would have done, knowing the story would get out without her input. Then tell her a segment on Countdown - actually, a number of them - discussed the case thoroughly, including a rough dollar amount. Finally, remind her you love her in spite of her obstinence and refusal to believe what she just doesn't want to.
      •  Fits with my Bully theory (none)
        Derision is bullying adult-style. Just like in school, everyone avoids being associated with the person who is getting bullied.

        Rove used it against Kerry (the "academic", the band-aids for his Purple Hearts).

        No one wants to hang out with the captain of the chess team (sorry to all you bright chess players) or with the guy who gets sand kicked in his eyes at the beach.

        Kick sand at O'Reilly and he cries. The ultimate unmasking of the Bully. He'll get dropped like a hot potato.

      •  Don't forget Joe 'I had nothing to do with my (none)
        dead congressional aide found in my office, just before my resignation and marriage falling apart' Scarborough.
      •  There is a great French film ... (none)
        called "Ridicule" that highlighted how mockery was raised to an art form in the Versailles court.  Definitely worth renting if you like that sort of stuff.  Very sharp, witty writing that proves "a pen is mightier than a sword".
        •  Speaking Of Revenge Through The Pen... (none)
          (From "A Knight's Tale"...it's one of my favorite film exchanges...)

          Simon: "It's sixes and sevens tonight, Chaucer. Do you feel lucky?"

          Peter: "Do you wear enough clothes?"

          Chaucer: "Go on. Be gone. I'm done with you. (Pause) Except - to exact my revenge."

          Peter: "What on earth could you possibly do to us?"

          Chaucer: "I will eviscerate you in fiction. Every last pimple; every last character flaw. I was naked for a day - you will be naked for eternity."

    •  No Kidding (none)
      Gee, I hate doing it to my mom but she is one of the resistant ones.  Eventually, something has got to snap her out of it.

      Tell me about it, my mom still listens to BoughtandpaidforTweetyMatthews.  

      •  Just point out his Hilary obsession (4.00)
        "I think Tweety is in love with Hilary.  Didn't you ever notice how his eyes light up and he gets all excited when he mentions her name?  Let's watch him.  He's going to mention her again.  Here he goes.  See , didn't I tell you?  The man gets absolutely unhinged whenever he thinks of her.  Pretty funny.  He just doesn't stop.  No, no one on the left is like this about Hilary.  It's all in his head.  Amazing, isn't it?  He's going to be so disappointed  when we nominate Clark or Feingold."

        -3.63, -4.46 "Choose something like a star to stay your mind on- and be staid"

        by goldberry on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:25:50 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Good Call (none)
          He is eerily obsessed with ATH (all things Hillary), no question.  In fact, my mom has even commented on how he treats i.e., Norah O'Donnell; basically worships her.  

          Thanks, I will point this out.  

  •  He seems to be doing a good (none)
    job of self-destructing. Why get in the way?

    Blogatha! The political, the personal. Not necessarily in that order.

    by ksh01 on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:42:04 AM PST

  •  expand the call script (4.00)
    wanna drive him nuts

    when you wingnuts harrass  oooops i mean call his call in show expand your script to ask him which pisses him off more being outted as a sexual pervert or losing his audinece to keith olberman  :)

    maybe you can get TWO calls from his private security force instead of one  :)

    "if all the world's a stage, who is sitting in the audience?"

    by KnotIookin on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:42:28 AM PST

  •  have Franken Security call him (none)
    that should work
  •  Google bomb! (4.00)
    Here, I'll start.  

    Sexual predator

    Good stuff.  

    When facts threaten true believers, they simply close their eyes and pray harder. -- Naomi Klein

    by Billy Shears on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 08:55:35 AM PST

  •  Slurp! (none)
    Ah, the falafel is gaining steam, Billy Boy, and it's comin' in sideways, aimed where you like it the most.
  •  we can send him to Berkeley (none)
     or tie him up and make him watch Outfoxed, or better yet, have Michael Moore move in with him. We could give him a year subscription to the ACLU, or a liberal magazine. George Soros could buy out Foxnews, and hire Olbermann to run the place.
  •  don't just call him... boycott him! (none)
    It seems to me that this would be a much better tactic for a boycott of his show and his advertisers--boycotting Bill O'Reilly's show due to his own hypocrisy, and lack of basic human decency. That's right, folks, this is a 'moral values' issue. What gives Bill O'Reilly the right to tell me how to live my life? Absolutely nothing--he has no standing, no credibility. Maybe if he admitted some remorse, some personal responsibility for anything, some basic level of honesty, he could at least tell people how not to end up like him. But no, he's far beyond any help now.

    So. Don't tell his advertisers to abandon him just because he's a liar--tell them to abandon him because of his inability to take personal responsibility for his lack of moral values, contrary to his hypocritical holier-than-thou rantings. Judge not let ye be judged, Bill. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw falafels.

  •  uh (none)
    Can we please not use patently absurd arguments?

    I'm not talking about your diary in general - O'Reilly is awful, no doubt - I'm talking about statements like these:

    Bill O'Reilly is after our children. He even wrote a book targeting kids. A book for kids! By a sexual predator!

    Do you mean to imply that Bill O'Reilly wants to rape children?

    If you don't mean to imply that, what possible valid reason could you have for conflating these two unrelated facts?

    •  He is targeting children. (none)
      From the Amazon.com review of his book "The O'Reilly Factor for Kids: A Survival Guide for America's Families"

      "Grade 6 Up-Advice on issues that confront today's teenagers is given in a confident manner by the talk-show host. Factual information supports personal, no-nonsense guidance in navigating life's various challenges on the road to adulthood. Examples from the author's life further augment the points being made, illustrating both triumphs and mistakes, and their natural consequences. Content adequately covers relationships, sex, music, school, and philosophical reflections that will aid teenagers in developing their unique identities and value systems."

      I personally don't think a sexual predator should be targeting children with his advice on sex or values.

      "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

      by RonV on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:14:36 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Not a conflation (none)
      He engineered (I'm sure he didn't have a thing to do with writing it, what, and give up on possible masturbation time?)a book aimed at children so as to appear more sympathetic to the true target of his sickness, younger women of childbearing age. I see the two as very much related, since predators often use every tool in their arsenal to assist them in their need to lure the helpless.

      The diarist never stated that O'Reilly is a pedophile, which is a seperate diagnosis entirely. But he is correct to point out the gross impropriety involved in addressing children and parents directly when one is responsible for serious sexual impropriety. The reviews at Amazon were small revenge compared to the fact that the guy is still pulling down a regular paycheck (though I'm glad Ms. Mackris got a slice of his retirement account).

    •  it's called (none)
      using the underhanded, slimy, take-no-enemies, Rovian strategies of the Rs that have worked so well for them. Because people with integrity find lying, deception, innuendo, and slander offensive to honest debate, those of us who still naively beilieve in the social contract have a hard time winning against cheap tricks. The diarist is being perhaps a bit hyperbolic with that example, but surely you get the point.

      This signature line confers blanket acknowledgment and correction of any tpyo's that may or may not exist in the above text.

      by oregon blue on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:21:28 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Yes (none)
      Keeping my integrity while smearing Fox News bafoons is so much more important than winning.  

      My wife may have to wear a burqua and bear me five more children, but at least I'll have my integrity!

  •  hmm (none)
    aside from the fact that I think that you are a troll sent by O'Reilly to mess with the kossacks, I would say you should give up on the idea to spread the word among the media that they should watch out for sexual predator Bill O'Reilly.  

    All I see in the media these days, after they got their couple of political shows on the air, are 24/7 exlcusive reports about the dangers of evil, violent men, sexual predators taped live, exclusively reported by our own reporter xyz.

    The whole Amerinan media universe is saturated with predators, eating up little children and killing run away beauties, be it MSNBC, CNN and Fox.

    We really can't see the forest for the trees anymore for all those predators roaming the landscape and the media isn't able to find the friendly sexual predator fellow in their own rows in the neighboring cubicles or so.

    I suggest we cut down the forest completely to have a better view on the trees.

    Whatever.

    A country is not only what it does - it is also what it puts up with, what it tolerates. - Kurt Tucholsky

    by mimi on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:11:34 AM PST

    •  Let Keith handle O'Reilly (none)
      a little more finesse and credibility than these diaries.
    •  Are you seriously defending this guy? (none)
      Have you researched the harassment suit? You don't think harassment and stalking are serious issues? From guy who is supposed to be the champion of right-wing sexual morality, who helped destroy Clinton on sexual grounds?

      Don't you think these guys should at least be held to their own self-proclaimed standards?

    •  If he's a troll (none)
      sent by Billdo to infiltrate dKos, he's a sleeper agent......uid 45819.

      Things fall apart-the center cannot hold...The best lack all conviction While the worst are full of passionate intensity (-8.50\-7.13)

      by kestrel9000 on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:38:34 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Whoa (none)
      A little harsh there, dontcha think -- fine to question the tactics / wisdom of going after BOR, but to impugn someone's integrity is another matter entirely.

      Look, I come down as hard on Repub agents as anybody (see any of my comments re: Joementum), but to call someone a troll just because you don't like their tactics is really uncalled for, and I think you crossed the line.  

  •  Hannity is the demon I'd (none)
    like to see taken down.

    He not only wants to rape your children, he wants to eat them aftewards.

  •  A sad day in the life of dailykos (4.00)
    where crap like this gets a recommended diary status.

    A country is not only what it does - it is also what it puts up with, what it tolerates. - Kurt Tucholsky

    by mimi on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:14:48 AM PST

    •  Agree with Mimi (4.00)

      This is a very-unbecoming little hate fest.

      HOWEVER, O'Reilly wouldn't have got his pulpit in Canada, and it would have been torn down long ago.

      We hold our hockey announcers to a higher standard than what O'Reilly has gotten away with.

      the blue sea seethes with reason

      by howth of murph on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:28:46 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Unfair settlement. (none)
      Part of the out of court settlement was, I believe, that Mackris could not talk about the allegations anymore. However, there was nothing in the court settlement that prevented this drunken pervert from using the term "family values" as a way of bashing liberals and Democrats on virtually a nightly basis -- and so we are left with this monstrous hypocrite as if nothing ever transpired or saw the light of day. If this guy were just a sports announcer I could see letting this go. But the "family values" canard is this Republican shill's bread and butter.

      In light of this, I agree with the poster of this diary: what the fuck is this man still doing on TV?

      And then 2/27/33 happened, and that changed everything.

      by Julian on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:31:32 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I'm just going to keep commenting about this: (none)
    1. Stop buying from anyone who advertises on Fox. Yes, this does mean car companies. Yes, this means Tide. Yes, this means McDonald's.

    2. Look at who is contributing to major politicians in big ways - what companies are putting $10,000 into a campaign? What companies are getting tax breaks? Where is the money flowing? Stop buying from them as well.

    3. Now that you're screaming "How do I eat?" - go to a co-op. A farmer's market. There isn't one near you? Move if you can, but I suspect that there's a small, local grocer who can sell you local, organic food already. Why organic? Because some of the biggest, nastiest companies on earth are the ones providing the fertilizers and seeds for conventional crops - and they're the same ones buying your politicians.

    4. Can't get by without a car? Try biodiesel if you can get it in your area (and can get a diesel vehicle), or again, look into moving, changing your career.

    For too many years, decades, we scream and cry about what's "going on", without doing any of the difficult, permanent individual changes in our lives that stop it from happening permanently. We've come up with lots of solutions, but none of them are sustainable. We need slow, permanent change. These are actionable items you can do today, and every day.

    http://higherfrequency.blogspot.com

    by Bensch on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:35:19 AM PST

  •  I am merely suggesting.. (none)
    that the kind of language that the Right uses all the time against people on the Left be applied to someone (BOR) who uses it often. Obviously, the tone and words I used in the diary were borrowed from the Right, as a strategic parody. And they will doubtless recognize it.

    But the facts are these: According to Andrea Mackris, O'Reilly sexually harassed and stalked a co-worker. Behind his wife's back. He threatened his victim with retailiation until it became clear she had taped him. Then he settled the lawsuit. And he has not denies its charges.

    Why should BOR retain his position, particularly when the woman he harassed worked with (for?) him? Why should FOX News not be pressured to dump him over this?

  •  BOR, relatively speaking, is (none)
    the LEAST of our problems...
    •  He is a classic symptom.. (none)
      of the GREATEST of our problems, which is that we can't seem to get rid of right wing bad guys even when they grease the way for us. We really need to learn how to fight these clowns, or they will own us forever.

      I am not suggesting that we lie. I am suggesting that we use the material at hand--i.e., their own language, and their own misdeeds--to hold them to account.

      We did not invent the language of right-wing hysteria. But if we mirror it back to them against one of their own regarding their own actions, making it clear we know it is THEIR song, their hypocrisy becomes evermore evident.

  •  Sex (none)
    It is not ok for Clinton but for the repugnants it is not only ok it is excusable.

    The shrub needs to be pulled he is terrifying

    by libbie on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 09:42:58 AM PST

    •  It's NOT sex.. (none)
      You're right about the double-standard, but this issue goes beyond it. Clinton had consensual sex. (And he hit on Paula ONCE.) O'Reilly repeatedly stalked and harassed his victim.

      What O'Reilly did is a crime. What Clinton did (to Paula and Monica) was boorish but not illegal. (Unless you get him lying about it under oath. D'oh!)

  •  Maybe, just maybe (none)
    It might be better if Bill remains ... he is becoming a good marketing tool to bring back people whose hinges have always been intact and who just had a temporary fling with his brand of nutty.
  •  on neutering O'Riley (none)
    Like it or not, a majority of the voting public gets its news from FOX, and talk radio. As we have continued to thumb our nose and dismiss these yahoos as beneath us, they have continued to turn the tide of American public opinoion over the last 15 years. Taking down thugs like Limbaugh, O'Riley, and Hannity is far more important than we'd like to admit. The right wing is much better at this type of thing than we are, only because we'd like to think we are above it. Neutering these guys would be easy, we just have to commit to it in a uniform and constent way.

    "The [National Government] regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life." -- Hitler

    by dolcissimo1 on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:26:54 AM PST

    •  Indeed. (none)
      Taking down the thugs like Limbaugh, O'Riley, and Hannity is far more important than we'd like to admit.

      Snobbery is easy, but the fact is Yahoos get one vote just like intelligent and informed people.

      There is an assumption from many on the left that the people who gravitate to Fox News as viewers are already Republican. Already stupid, yes, but not necessarily already Republican. And it is precisely for this reason that the predigested (interpreted) "news" of Fox is so insidious.

      And then 2/27/33 happened, and that changed everything.

      by Julian on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:43:54 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  first a stake through the heart (none)
    and then you have to take the heart, lungs, brains, liver and burn them.  Then you take the ashes and you throw them into 10 separate volcanos.  He probably won't be able to come back from that.

    Fight global warming. Be a pirate.

    by Orangebeard on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:29:07 AM PST

  •  I have owned (none)
    the domain name fuckfox.org for quite a while now, just waiting for some enterprising ppl to put some use to it...if anyone needs a place to house mp3s of their threatening calls from fox security, or their calls to Piggy Bill himself, perhaps it could be put to good use.

    btw, hi-quality in-line phone recording devices are available from radio shack for about 20 bucks (not the crappy suction cup things).

    "The future will be a struggle between huge competing systems of psychopathology." - J. G. Ballard

    by RabidNation on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:35:12 AM PST

  •  I dunno.... (none)
    I have mixed feelings about this.  The devil you know, etc.

    I kinda like having Felafel Bill right where he is -- with his ratings dropping and his grip on reality publicly and glaringly slipping -- so he can continue to act as the wingnut poster boy.

    God forbid he should be run off the airwaves on a rail, only to be replaced by someone who projects more credibility than he does.

    Yep.  I like having him right where he is.

    Sincerely,
    Your friendly neighborhood devil's advocate

    •  Good strategy (none)
      It's similar to don't impeach the President. Let him grow increasingly weaker. But meanwhile it's so tempting.
      •  Errrrr.... (none)
        It's similar to don't impeach the President. Let him grow increasingly weaker.

        No, I don't think it's similar at all.  Even a very weak Bush can still do an awful lot of damage, because nobody in Washington is checking him; I am not, however, convinced that O'Reilly can really do much -- if any -- damage in his current state.  

        But I'm open to being convinced otherwise...

  •  I don't know how well this would work (none)
    but every Democrat running against a Republican that has appeared on BOR should run an ad or press release saying something like, "My opponent has appeared on a television show with an alleged sexual predator..."

    [-7.88/-6.67] Forged Demon - Zen Politics

    by sohei on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:51:20 AM PST

  •  This (none)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/...

    Andy Pandy ( brit version of Howdy Doodee maybe?) clone has been shown to be mentally syphillitic - see Outfoxed. Isn't there legislation on passin on such unpleasantness?  

    Quis custodiat ipsos custodes?

    by fatdave on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 10:52:29 AM PST

  •  What FOX should have done.. (none)
    the second the alleged tape transcripts came out, they should have done exactly what W should have done with his staff when Plame was outed.

    First they should have brought Mackris in (if she was still working for them) and said:

    "Here is an affidavitt form. In it you will swear to everything you have accused O'Reilly of here. Then you will be under oath, under penalty of perjury."

    Then they should have brought O'Reilly in, and said:

    "Here is an affidavitt form. In it, you will write that you are innocent of every one of these accusations, or explain how it is that they are exaggerated. Then you will sign it, and be under oath.

    If you won't, your resignation is expected. We will not tolerate harassment of our workers, nor will we tolerate false accusations against them."

    Then it would have been much more solidly cleared up.

    On the other hand, O'Reilly could march down to his friendly neighborhood notary, sign an affidavitt swearing to his innocence of Mackris' charges, and release it to the media.

    Weird how none of these right wingers want to go under oath, though, don't you think?

  •  Spread the word (none)
    Is his book still on the market? Make some photocopies of the transcript link and insert them into the books on the shelf at your local B/N.
  •  I have to disagree (4.00)
    what I think you meant to say was:  

    I have read with great amusement the antics of Mike from Florida on Keith Olbermann's show, kickin' some sexual predator ass.

    But it's so small time. Why is sexual predator still in a media chair? Sexual predator is a sexual predator. Sexual predator should have lost sexual predator's job over the Mackris case. Sexual predator should be a media pariah. It is our fault Sexual predator isn't. Sexual predator gave us the sharpened sword, and we refused to run Sexual predator through. Why?

    We need to finish Sexual predator off. Right now.

    Bill Clinton, loved around the world, guilty of little more than Prosperity-gate, was ruined over consensual sex. Ruined. He could not even fight back against al Qaeda without the Right screaming "Wag the Dog!" and "No war for Monica!"

    Sexual predator sexually harassed and stalked a co-worker. Then sexual predator threatened her. Those are crimes, people. She gave us the transcript. Sexual predator settled, after issuing all manner of vile threats to her. This is not (just) funny. Sexual predator is a criminal. Just because sexual predator got her to "shut up!" doesn't mean we have to.

    Sexual predator should've been toast after settling with Mackris. Seriously, what the HELL? Sexual predator should be washed up. On skid row somewhere. Period.

    We can still do it. We can still do the right thing. We can still hold sexual predator accountable. But we need to be relentless. We need to be as ruthless as sexual predator is to sexual predator's critics on this one. For the nation's sake, and for what sanity we might possibly rescue from sexual predator's viewers.

    Sexual predator is a sexual predator. No one should be saying or writing or thinking "sexual predator" without the words "sexual predator" attached to it. No one should be interviewed about sexual predator on the air without calling sexual predator a "sexual predator." Every one of us who calls into sexual predator should get the words "you are a sexual predator" in before sexual predator pushes the "dump" button. Media people should be asking if sexual predator is allowed around children, and if parents feel safe with kids near sexual predator. Every argument sexual predator makes should be dismissed as the vile oozings of a sexual predator. Boycotts and protests of FOX should be centered around FOX's celebration and promotion of a sexual predator. Complaints to advertisers should be prefaced with asking them why their "family conscious" company advertises for a sexual predator. What message are they sending to the kids? Such companies should be accused of sponsoring sexual predation.

    Sexual predator is after our children. Sexual predator even wrote a book targeting kids. A book for kids! By a sexual predator! FOX parents should be reminded every day that every time they turn on sexual predator, they are letting a sexual predator in the house, to influence their kids. Any parent who buys sexual predator's book is buying the work of a sexual predator for their kids. How is that responsible parenting?

    It would have been wonderful if Olbermann had raised enough to rescue the actual Mackris tapes. We do have the transcript, and plenty of people who can do a dead-ringer sexual predator voice, and who can make dance-mixes and raps and Wagner pieces with them. But what is dangerous about this is the temptation to view the Mackris incident merely as an irresistible chance to ridicule.

    We must get past the joy of ridicule to the righteousness of outrage, at least as it should be modeled to these holier-than-thou sex-police right wingers. Why should one of the Right's main sexual predators (and Clinton evicerators) get away with sexual harassment and stalking, when sexual predator butchered our guy over consensual sex?

    We need to master this talking point, and spread the word so that it blankets blogsylvania and penetrates the SCLM. We should at least be able to take this page from the "Rove frame" playbook, since it involves fact. Sexual predator is a sexual predator. Sexual predator should not be in a media position to influence kids. Sexual predator should not be left alone with kids. Sexual predator should not be allowed to buy Sexual predator's way out of the social consequences of harassment and stalking. FOX should be ashamed of promoting sexual predation by retaining Sexual predator. We will not rest until Sexual predator is run out on a rail.

    By the way, if Sexual predator decides to sue over this, won't the discovery process be fun?

    Did I get that right?  
    .

  •  typo (none)
    i think you meant "o'lielly."

    weather forecast

    The palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. - Paine

    by Cedwyn on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 11:46:45 AM PST

  •  Yes (none)
    I have been posting what you are saying for a long time now..I think your words are better and might have an impact. YES! Throw the facts out there with NO SPIN! Then go after Hanity for his lies http://www.ifilm.com/... and then hammer the fact that Rush is a drug addict.

    These are simply facts and nothing more. Why should we have these assholes on the airwaves 24/7 acting like they are righteous when that facts show that they are far from it. Kind of reminds me of Jimmy Swaggart!

    O'Reilly Hit With Sex Harass Suit

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/...

    Bill O'Reilly, Producer Settle Harassment Suit
    Fox Host Agrees to Drop Extortion Claim

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

    BILL O'REILLY: Well, if I took you down there then I'd want to take a shower with you right away, that would be the first thing I'd do... yeah, we'd check into that room, and we would order up some room service and uh and you'd definitely get two wines into you as quickly as I could get into you I would get 'em into you... maybe intravenously, get those wines into you...
    http://www.ledgeofliberty.com/...

  •  O RLY? (none)
    I know this is cliche by internet standards, but sorry it had to be done:

    This is what goes through my head whenever I read or hear anything O'Reilly says.

  •  Don't pay attention to him. (none)
    Bill hates one thing. And that's not being talked about!
  •  Audio Clip of O'Reilly Reading From His Sex Novel (none)
    If the TV networks, or Olbermann, would just repeatedly play this audio clip of Bill O'Reilly reading from his own steamy sex novel called Those Who Trespass, we'd be well on our way to ridiculing him out of his job.
  •  Another way to finish him off is via his WALLET (none)
    Ratings keep this thug employed.  Which is why Ad Nausea targets advertisers of right wing radio.  

    As diaried here yesterday, http://www.dailykos.com/...

    a good way to stop this harrasser-with-a-mic, is to speak to those who pay his salary.

    Insure.com was our initial target.  Apparently though, the CEO, Robert Bland is a HUGE supporter of O'Reilly's.    

    Ad Nausea http://www.adnausea.org is in the process of compiling a list of insurance companies which are sponsored by Insure.  (We could use some help or volunteers, by the way.)

    Money is the only thing these Rethugs understand.  Speaking to their pocketbook, may get their attention -- and perhaps stop their vile rhetoric.

  •  OK. I'm calling bullshit. (none)
    I mean, someone go get the hyperbole police.

    Bill O'Reilly is a creep. But he's not a sexual predator.

    Rapists are sexual predators. Dudes like Michael Jackson are sexual predators to a lesser degree.

    But O'Reilly is just a creep. Bill Clinton's critics called him a sexual predator because he was messing around with his intern.

    I'm sure some feminist consider this sort of thing to be a form of predation, but it isn't. It's maybe creepy. I guess that really depends. If you're using a position of authority to pressure someone sexually when the attention is definitely not wanted, well, that's harrassment. And harrassment isn't cool.

    But it doesn't make you a rapist. So lets keep it real.

    Bill O'Reilly is a creep. I do think it would be great if the media gave as much attention to O'Reilly's creepiness as they did to Clinton's (considerably less creepy) indiscretions. But I do wish people wouldn't throw around accusations of sexual criminality so liberally.

    People seem to do that alot these days. It troubles me, to be honest.

    Lou Dobbs is the straight dope. Volvo Liberal is the clown.

    by DLC Overlord on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 02:16:14 PM PST

    •  READ.. (none)
      the freaking transcript! A person doesn't have to RAPE someone to sexually intimidate someone and make their life miserable. I never called him a rapist.

      What Clinton did, as I said ad nauseum, was consensual (except his hot on Paula, which was ONCE.)

      What O'Reilly did with Mackris he did after she'd let him know it was unwanted. And he coupled it with threats. (Scroll up.)

  •  I hope O'Reilly stays (none)
    In some rather fundamental respects, O'Reilly never made the full leap to adulthood.  The longer he stays on the air, the more likely we are to witness a spectacular public flameout that will reduce him to a laughingstock even among those who don't already view him as such.  The falafel incident will pale in comparison.  

    The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. - John Adams

    by tipsymcstagger on Fri Mar 10, 2006 at 02:21:43 PM PST

  •  Link him to Michael Jackson (none)
    Jackson settled his first  molestation suit out of court, but how many people believe he's innocent? It was the beginning of the end of his career. O'Reilly should be compared to Jackson at every available opportunity.

    Another idea: start a whisper campaign about the details of O'Reilly's suit.  "I know a guy who knows a lawyer who says that the evidence that WASN'T made public is much, much jucier. Bill begged her to make him wear patent leather mary janes and a Heidi wig as she did him from behind with a strap-on loofah."

    It gets spread around and eventually accepted as truth by a percentage of the population, like any other smear campaign or urban legend. Or if it gets big enough, he has to come out and present the actual facts as a rebuttal--in which case the tapes are finally heard and the story is in the news once again.

    Of course, this stuff is fun to talk about, but it takes concentrated effort to make it happen. And that's something the other side is much, much better at.

    But I'm sure that I actually DID hear that strap-on story somewhere. Didn't you?

  •  Congratulate San Francisco (none)
    for becoming an O'Reilly free zone since the predator announced he would not be visiting the city.  I live in Seattle and I can assure you he will not be visiting here either since the populace is well read and have him figured out.  He and Hannity need mindless sycophants to prosper, as does Rush Limbaugh.

    BillH77  

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