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There is an ESSENTIAL conversation happening in the comments on a post over at Firedoglake.

Call me stupid, but when I read these comments and the links embedded in them, it was like I was hit by a thunderbolt.  I never really understood how guys like Russert and Mathews went from being eager and earnest Democratic liberals to shills for Bushco.  Well it all comes down to one man... The widely revered eminence gris of American Corporatism, Jack Welch.

Read on if you want to understand how a pernicious form of Fascio-Corporatism has been mastered.

It all begins with Jane Hamsher's nod to Patrick Fitzgerald's brilliant skewering of Tim Russert...

The thing that they all [Matthews, Russert et. al.] seem to be terrified of is that the Democrats will gain a majority and start impeachment proceedings (or at least launch investigations) of the White House (it seems to be Chris Matthews' deepest, darkest fear).
I have to ask -- is this matter really polling that well?  Are Americans trembling in fear that the GOP might have it's dirty laundry tossed by the Democrats?  It all sounds a bit Tell Tale Heart to me.  Now I know why DeLay doesn't want it to happen, but why are Matthews and Russert so consumed with fear of Congressional oversight?

I'd like to harken back to probably my favorite story I've ever written on.  It has to do with a footnote in a Fitzgerald filing when Russert was fighting tooth and nail to keep from having to answer the Special Counsel's questions.  Russert was claiming that the general waiver signed by Scooter was "coerced," and that if he testified his "sources" would never trust him again.  To which Fitzgerald said:

It is also relevant to note that Russert has treated an asserted waiver of the reporter's privilege quite differently when convenient. When Richard Clarke published his book Against All Enemies and testified before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also known as the September 11 Commission), Clarke became subject to intense media scrutiny. On March 24, 2004, the White House disclosed Clarke's identity as the "senior administration official" who gave a "background" briefing in August 2002. When Clarke appeared as a guest on Meet the Press on March 28, 2004, Russert noted the White House had been aggressive in attacking Clarke's credibility and had identified Clarke as the source for the background briefing -- without indicating any concern about the "voluntariness" of the waiver, in which Clarke apparently played no role. (Copy of the March 28, 2004, Meet the Press transcript, Exhibit 1). Russert did not hesitate to broadcast out of any concern that such disclosure might chill future background sources.

I just love that tight, brutal paragraph.  I have to resurrect it every now and again if only for my own amusement.

Russert fucked Richard Clarke, Fitzgerald knew it and he called him on it.  Russert was willing to sell the high journalistic principles he claims to cherish so much down the river for the party and the access he values even more.  He fought relentlesslyl to keep from helping Fitzgerald (and the public) nail Scooter Libby.  How is he going to feel when people like John Conyers (whom he smeared this morning -- and Conyers fires back here) start looking into the all-too-cozy relationship that the press had with the White House in leading the country down the garden path to war?

The next time Russert and Matthews start quaking in their shoes at the thought of Democrats with subpoena power, I think it's time to remember that it's not their beloved Republicans they fear for, and given their ecstatic participation in the Cliniton hunt it sure isn't the public.  Could it be their own sorry asses they fear being exposed?  Is that why they're working overtime to spread GOP narratives and attempting  to strike fear in the hearts of their viewers at the specter of impeachment?

I thought Jane's entry was brilliant and illuminating on how these guys work.  But what has always nagged at me is the question of how Russert and Matthews came to sell their Democratic liberal souls.

Well in the comments, EUREKA courtesy of everhopeful!

I remember reading that Jack Welch considered Tweety and Timmeh his best pupils - so proud of the way he "convinced" them to give up their "liberal" ways and make GE's bottom line their new god - apparently right after Karl Rove personally convinced Welch that a dumbya victory in 2000 would result in $megazillions for Welch and GE.

Welch scoffs at the idea of real journalism and has fired journalists who asked real questions that were not in GE's best intereests. His media enterprises (NBC, MSNBC) became nothing but vehicles to get republicans elected - period.
I think Welch is retired now, but Tweety and Timmeh are still his "boys."

Jane then asks him...

everhopeful -- is that in Welsh's book?  

And everhopeful and diogenes point to a web article by David Podvin and Carolyn Kay called DEMOCRACY, GENERAL ELECTRIC STYLE that lays out that "[Jack] Welch believed that it was his responsibility to operate in the best interest of GE shareholders, and that now meant using the full power of the world's biggest corporation to get Bush into the White House."  Now I don't know anything about Podvin and Kay, and I have no idea who their sources are, but they paint a compelling case for how consent is manufactured at GE/NBC by process similar to the way a jet engine turbine is manufactured.

In the article, Podvin and Kay assert that...

Shortly after George W. Bush declared his candidacy for president in June of 1999, General Electric Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jack Welch was contacted by Bush political advisor Karl Rove. Welch later informed associates that Rove told him a Bush administration would initiate comprehensive deregulation of the broadcast industry. Rove guaranteed that deregulation would be implemented in a way that would create phenomenal profits for conglomerates with significant media holdings, like GE. Rove forcefully argued that General Electric and the other media giants had a compelling financial interest to see Bush become president.

They continue...

The philosopher Ayn Rand wrote, "The actual performance of men in society is a constant, fierce, undefined struggle between the genius and the parasite..."

To Welch, although George W. Bush might not be a genius, his policies would encourage those who were geniuses to be even more innovative and productive. Fewer government regulations and lower corporate taxes would create technological advancement, thereby benefiting society more than all of the do-gooder social programs combined ever could. The country would be run for the benefit of the "A" people who achieved great things, not the "C" people who merely existed. In such a laissez faire environment, the powerful would be unshackled to become even more powerful, and no corporation in the world was more powerful than General Electric.

By contrast, Welch viewed Al Gore as the candidate of the parasites. Gore voters were not the generators of wealth; they were the consumers of taxes. Welch privately described the typical Gore voter as "someone who needs all these goddamned social programs because she's too goddamned dumb to keep her legs crossed and too goddamned lazy to get an abortion."

This view of the world led Welch to implore associates at GE that doing whatever it took to get George W. Bush into the presidency was not only good for General Electric, it was good for America.

And here is the genius of Welch, because unlike Rupert Murdoch, he is not obvious...

Welch was absolutely determined to make his employees at NBC News finally genuflect to the most sacred words in his vocabulary: GE bottom line.

He perceived that there was a widely believed American myth of well-intended journalists selflessly seeking the truth, and that there would be hell to pay if a business leader like him were to overtly force reporters to be good corporate soldiers. So, being a very bright guy, he largely left the journalists at NBC alone.


In private, Welch was proud to have personally cultivated Tim Russert from a "lefty" to a responsible representative of GE interests. Welch sincerely believed that all liberals were phonies. He took great pleasure in "buying their leftist souls", watching in satisfaction as former Democrats like Russert and MSNBC's Chris Matthews eagerly discarded the baggage of their former progressive beliefs in exchange for cold hard GE cash. Russert was now an especially obedient and model employee in whom the company could take pride.

Podvin and Kay then contrast the experience on Russert and Kay with that of Claire Shipman...

It was bad news for NBC correspondent Claire Shipman, who made the mistake of offering a positive opinion of Al Gore on the air. Jack Welch, chairman and chief executive officer of a $350 billion conglomerate, responsible for overseeing the highly diversified activities of hundreds of thousands of employees working in over one hundred countries, was so incensed by her disobedience that he took time out of his busy schedule to personally confront her about it.

She no longer works for NBC. And her managing editor, Tom Brokaw, did not stand up for her right to journalistic independence from the corporate lord.

"I think Jack Welch's the smartest boss I've ever had and he signs my paychecks," said Brokaw, exhibiting a profound understanding of the situation.

And Welch used this standard across the board in measuring the value of his GE/NBC employees...

Welch believed that the promotion practices at NBC News encouraged disloyalty to General Electric. It was his observation that "journalistic excellence" seemed to be the flimsy, intangible standard for getting ahead in the news division. He decided that the criteria had to be changed to encourage loyal contributions to the employer, which was GE. The crucial step that Welch took was to make it well known throughout NBC News that the standard for the promotion of journalists would be the same as it was for every other employee in the corporation: outstanding contribution to the financial well being of General Electric.

The journalists who had their paychecks signed by Welch knew that favorable coverage of George W. Bush would be considered an outstanding contribution to the financial well being of General Electric.

And then it all comes back to Timmeh...

Following the conversation with Rove, Welch instructed a subordinate to impress on senior NBC executives that the news division would now be expected to show the same unqualified devotion to General Electric that was required of every other unit. He was unusually circumspect because he realized that Clinton appointees in the Federal Communications Commission would have taken a dim view of his activities. Welch knew from his company's countless run-ins with the law that the authorities could be outmaneuvered if things were handled with finesse.

He quietly began to dramatically change the way that things were done at NBC News. A link was established between the producers of the Sunday morning program Meet The Press and the opposition research team of the Republican Party. Delighted G.O.P. operatives were soon boasting that Tim Russert would go on the air just minutes after receiving their allegations of wrongdoing by Al Gore, and would repeat their charges verbatim. Russert was not functioning as a journalist; he had crossed the Rubicon and was acting as a mouthpiece for General Electric's favorite political party.

Welch greatly appreciated Russert, whose multi-million dollar contract he personally negotiated. The message circulated throughout NBC News that Russert was an excellent role model for reporters who wanted to succeed in the organization. Reporters at NBC News did not have to be verbally instructed on how to get ahead; they clearly saw that the Russert approach was handsomely rewarded by top management.

Oh yeah and Andrea Mitchell, as usual, makes a cameo...

Reporter Andrea Mitchell of NBC Nightly News was married to Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan, who was a longtime Republican and protégé of Ayn Rand. Mitchell was a Welch favorite because he liked her "objectivity", which meant that she never had a positive word to say about Democrats. After the election, it was Mitchell who repeatedly lied when reporting that Clinton aides had vandalized the White House and stolen from Air Force One. Bush operatives were later quoted as saying that the phony vandalism story was a big help in creating the desired contrast between the "sleazy" Clinton years and the "breath of fresh air" that George W. Bush wanted to represent. Mitchell never retracted or apologized when the Government Accounting Office proved that she had been dishonest, and she was never disciplined.

There is also no evidence of Mitchell ever being angrily confronted by Jack Welch.

And in the end, the Wizard makes one appearance from behind the curtain...

Welch's successful behind-the-scenes campaign to influence media coverage in a way that would get Bush into the White House has not been visible to the public, with one exception. On election night, according to an eyewitness, Welch was so angry that his own NBC News team would not call the race for Bush that he personally went to the studio from which Tom Brokaw was anchoring the coverage. Welch quietly watched the broadcast for a few minutes. Two people who were present claim that, when Brokaw and Tim Russert did not take the hint that their boss had come into the newsroom because he wanted something from them, he explicitly announced that he wanted them to call the election for Bush.

They did. As a result, Bush entered the Florida recount phase with the tremendous advantage of having already been declared the winner.

Congressman Henry Waxman questioned NBC News president Andrew Lack about the incident. Waxman requested that Lack turn over to Congress the in-studio tapes that were recorded that night, so that what Welch had allegedly done could be verified. Lack, testifying under oath, agreed to do so.

As of this writing, he has refused to honor his commitment.

Again, read the whole article by David Podvin and Carolyn Kay, it is a fascinating example of what Noam Chomsky called Manufacturing Consent... in fact, that would be a great title for a Business School Class taught by eminence gris... Jack Welch.

p.s. If anyone tells you that network neutrality doesn't matter, send them the link to this diary.

Originally posted to kant on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:19 AM PDT.

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  •  Honk if your a luddite on consent manufacturing! (226+ / 0-)
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  •  Thank you for a great diary. (20+ / 0-)

    I know that the influence of the boardroom on media operations and political coverage comes up from time to time but this is hard-hitting stuff.

    When the business of news is business, then news is public relations and not journalism.

    "Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will." MLK

    by jmaier on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:17:06 AM PDT

  •  I'm just glad we're still manufacturing something (14+ / 0-)

    "Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will." MLK

    by jmaier on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:17:46 AM PDT

  •  recommended (6+ / 0-)
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    tikkun, cotterperson, dpc, alnc, DaveV, Valtin

    Amazing diary, one tackling a topic I'm planning to write about.


    "If more parents home disciplined [their kids] there would be fewer people I have to smack in public." --Wilzerd Balefire.

    by TheBlaz on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:27:39 AM PDT

  •  highly recommended (21+ / 0-)

    by us C-list people, the ones who merely exist.  The rude inglorious Miltons.

  •  General Electric has been in the business (66+ / 0-)

    of manufacturing consent for a long long time.  Let's not forget that the evil Ronald Reagan was literally an invention of General Electric.  

    Reagan's political career began as a TV pitchman for General Electric.  Then he started making speeches for them.  And then he started fucking up this country for them.

    Fuck Jack Welch.  And fuck General Electric.  UnAmerican.  Inhuman.

    If we're dumb. Then God is dumb. And maybe a little ugly on the side.

    by Ghost of Frank Zappa on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:32:58 AM PDT

  •  I will read the entire article later (6+ / 0-)

    when I have more time, but just one question-

    is anything that is being said actually supported by anything in the way of direct quotes or documents?  Everything excerpted here seems to have left that out, but I recognize that you can't move the whole thing here verbatim.  But, for instance, is Clair Shipman quoted on the reason she is no longer with NBC?  Or the 2000 election night thing, is there more evidence of this occurring, other than a lack of evidence that it didn't?

    If there is anything I have learned from Scooby Doo, it is that the only thing to fear is crooked real estate developers.

    by JakeC on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:33:11 AM PDT

    •  Much of this makes me uneasy (6+ / 0-)

      I agree.  Unsourced, even if it confirms a lot of our suspicions, this must be regarded as dubious.

      •  You, like Jake, should read the whole thing (3+ / 0-)
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        In a subsequent part of their article, The authors note the nature if critism of the article note:

        The nature of the criticism indicates that some readers have missed the point of the series; it is the people with the “proper pedigrees” who have consistently deceived you.

        They note that it is worthwhile to be skeptical.  Stating that this is dubious because it appears unsourced seems irrelevent since they give adequate details to check. Do a little digging into the facts and write a diary on what you find.

        DKos Dosage Guidelines: Apply liberally as often as required. Warning: May cause eye irritation.

        by Ex Con on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:10:42 AM PDT

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        •  That's the trouble, isn't it? (2+ / 0-)
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          I don't have the time to dig into this stuff along with the job I do for a living and the sidework I do and the personal relationship I have with my fiancee and planning our wedding.

          I need to trust the people I accept my information from.  That includes people on Kos.  I trust Kos and the other blogs I read because they have not deceived me.  This needs to continue.  And the people who are reporting stories in these diaries need to do the work for us in sourcing and establishing credibility.  That is their job.  And we certainly respect them and thank them for their effort.

          •  'Job' is too strong. That's their 'courtesy'. (9+ / 0-)

            Diaries that don't provide sources and links generally don't rise to the top.  They self-winnow.  Other diarists lacking sources and links ask for them outright from other readers.

            The best end products among diaries posted here are less frequently the diaries themselves, imo, but are defined by the action they generate, the links and sources they accumulate, or the group epiphanies that occur when a fact tightens up through group work and discussion.

            For readers, dKos is (and should be) a collaborative, not a job.

    •  Point is to take this as a convincing ARGUMENT (4+ / 0-)
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      This is a blog diary entry - not a piece of investigative reporting.

      I think kant has done a fantasic job at taking his/her observations and presenting them to make a cogent scenario by which to possibly explain what the hell is going on with a particular segment of the MSM.

      The picture painted here can by extension be applied to the rest of the small circle of MSM conglomerate owners.

      Wasn't Sumner Redstone (CBS, right? And AOL/Time Warner?) also quoted before the '04 elections as saying something like he wasn't crazy about Bush, but would promote his candidacy  because it was in the best interests of his corporation?

  •  Fantastic diary (4+ / 0-)
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    Now I must logoff and practice my yoga breathing to calm down.

    Bushco, putting the mock in democracy.

    by Southern Bell on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:36:33 AM PDT

  •  Media-Owned State (10+ / 0-)

    The new totalitarianism.

    The Tweeties aren't afraid for the Republicans.

    They're afraid, when push comes to shove, the Pubs will rat them out.

    Cunningate: Coming for a Republican near you. :)

    by cskendrick on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:38:37 AM PDT

    •  Media-Owned-State-Owned-Media (3+ / 0-)
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      ad infinitum.

      •  Oh, it's definitel a partnership (1+ / 0-)
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        No one ever said media couldn't be a full partner in totalitarianism.

        On this, the righties were right: The media is the problem, a fourth and illegal branch of government.

        Oh, it's nice to have in your pocket...but it won't stay there.

        I, for one, have never glorified the press as anything but a useful weapon, dangerous in the hands of one's enemies, righteous in the hands of one's

        But neither it, nor its practitioners, hold any special moral currency.

        If they do something socially valuable, it in my opinion largely by chance, or because somebody called in a marker.

        But maybe that's just me.

        Cunningate: Coming for a Republican near you. :)

        by cskendrick on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:21:11 AM PDT

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        •  This is really exaggerated (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm an enthusiastic supporter of the idea that it looks as if the Bush Rovies have somehow bribed/threatened/blackmailed/flattered a bunch of large news organizations into submissions.

          But about half of the items here probably start with some kind of interesting excerpt from a mainstream news organization.

          So, clearly, there are plenty of reporters and news organizations still trying to do a decent job and sometimes succeeding. Skepticism about the media is great, but I think extreme hostility is as dangerous as extreme gullibility. If you really give up news organizations (including the news organizations that are growing out of the blog community), then I think you end up making it even easier for the Bush Rovies and their successors to control public opinion.

          Even in full-blown, openly censored dictatorships, reporters get a lot of real news into print through indirect methods. By, for example, the people they want to praise in the a way that gets some of the facts out. Maybe if you look carefully you'll see that's what's starting to happen in news reports put out by organizations such as NBC.

    •  You can bet they are scared (15+ / 0-)

      When the populace of Paris put heads on pikes during the French Revolution, it wasn't only the royalty, but their flattering courtiers and sycophantic journalists that shared their fate.

      We won't use pikes, Messieurs Russert and Matthews. We will use the law, trials, and imprisonment for connivance/conspiracy in defrauding the U.S. state by knowledgeably spreading disinformation to start an illegal war. The blood is on your hands, too.

      You are smart. You are reading this. You know history, even though you live in luxury-endowed circumstances that blunt your awareness. That little voice of reasonable conscience, starved, left shivering in the corner of your mind, it knows, and it tells you what you must know is true.

      Lie, lie away. Even the Big Lie won't save you this time.

      "The danger of repression is greater than the danger of debate."

      by Valtin on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:36:27 AM PDT

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  •  Diary-wise? Hell yeah. (0+ / 0-)
  •  Best Diary (8+ / 0-)

    I've read all Spring - excellent, excellent, excellent. Timmeh and Tweety should be selling vaccuum cleaners somewhere.

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    by dpc on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:43:03 AM PDT

  •  Excellent Diary--Thanx! (3+ / 0-)
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    This explains a lot.....

  •  Recco'd - (8+ / 0-)

    Many of us have suspected this, but never have I seen it laid out so starkly.  I sure hope someone emails this to MSGOP...

    "If you get an outfit, you can be a cowboy, too..." : The Smothers Brothers.

    by wozzle on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:44:26 AM PDT

  •  Recommended. (2+ / 0-)
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    Thank you for the insight.  This subject needs more exposure.  I believe we should tie Russert and Matthews  to the likes of Coulter and Hannity, every chance we get.  His ego just wouldn't like that, but it is well deserved.

  •  'liberals'? (2+ / 0-)
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    just because you work for a liberal (tip o'neil) doesn't make you one. russert and matthews were and remain hacks and whores- they've just changed employers. their "ideology" as it were, selling your ass for a buck, hasn't changed one iota.

  •  Maximum Jack. (2+ / 0-)
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    That's what they called him at G.E. and not just because he sold off every business unit that was not #1 or #2 in their market.

    One day he was coming to inspect a plant.  The place was spotless except for one storage closet.  The plant supervisor locked the door and gave the key to the shift supervisor and said, "Get lost and don't find yourself 'til he's gone".

    Jack of course makes a beeline to the forbidden door and says "Open it."

    Plant supervisor says, "Sorry, only the one key and the  shift supervisor has it and he's off on an errand right now."

    Jack says, "Well, when he gets back tell him he's fired.  Oh, and you're fired too."

    I have no idea if the story is true, but it's the kind of story they told about Jack at G.E.

  •  How many ways can we say excellent? (4+ / 0-)

    Really - very good analysis, excellent diary! We know where the RWM is coming from, but it's the Russerts that are dangerous because the appearence of objectivity.  Thanks again!

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    by dansk47 on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:49:55 AM PDT

  •  Why does Jack Welch (5+ / 0-)

    hate America so much?  Electing Bush wasn't good for America.  It was good for corporations only in the short term.  When the economy crumbles, the corporations are going to be hit hard like all of us.  And if the rapture nuts bring down armageddon the co.s are fucked as well.

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." J. Lennon

    by trashablanca on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:50:37 AM PDT

  •  What a story (13+ / 0-)

    I'm cringing inside.  Part of me doesn't want to believe that people are that corrupt.  The other part of me says, "So that's what happened."

  •  Remember when Howard Dean told Matthews (59+ / 0-)

    ... that diversifyng and re-regulating media conglomerates would be one of his first goals as president?

    That was the beginning of the end of Dean.  The corporate media went after him with sledgehammers, blowtorches and tire irons after that.  Matthews was incredulous.

    But how can we expect mainstream Party officials in Washington to back any such initiative?  I remember reading that Kerry's brother works for a law firm that does a great deal of work on behalf of media giants.

    The consolidation of media in this country has been, and will continue to pose, the greatest danger to our democracy.

    We need reform in media now.

    Visit Satiric Mutt -- my contribution to the written cholesterol now clogging the arteries of the Internet.

    by Bob Johnson on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:57:55 AM PDT

    •  not just media reforms (9+ / 0-)

      Monopolies  are being recreated as we speaks... Telecom, Oil. They have learned to bypass certain anti trust laws and the powers that be have turned a blined eyes due to the wonderful kick backs from lobbyists..

      the rebranding of AT&T has me rather worried.. Since the background owners have been gobbling up other tele coms at a frightening pace. Now they have set thier sights on the one thing they couldnt control, the Internet. All these moves indicate money and profit arnt the only thing they are after.. its the control of Content and Information.. an informed public is a lot harder to control that a dumbed down, easily distracted one.

    •  Facism (5+ / 0-)
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      Another decade of the current climate and we will become an utterly facist nation.  This article confirms our worst fears of the merger of the corporate and nationalist agendas of this country.  Dean's fall in '04 and Russert's embarassingly rabid attack of Pelosi are prime examples of the impending end of democracy if the democrats with the support of the American people fail to take this country back from the corporate facists.  This is an extremely scary time.  Most important is if the democrats take control they must do it only long enough to reregulate the media and break down corporations and return the power to the people.  Otherwise if they take over completely they will only fall victim to the same coporate forces that are the undoing of the Republicans.  They must restore balance to the force.    

      I take political action every day. I teach.

      by jbfunk on Mon May 08, 2006 at 01:02:11 PM PDT

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  •  Liberal Media? (15+ / 0-)

    Given the blatant favors given to media conglomerates by the Republican Party, it always amazes me that the average American still believes the media has a LIBERAL bias. People seem blind to how Dem's platforms are always dissed and their minor transgressions are turned into major issues, while Republican bad ideas are touted as wonderful and their misdeeds are ignored as long as possible. If media outlets actually did display liberal bias, they could be sued by their shareholders for not acting in the shareholders' fiduciary interests.

    When I was a kid, I used to wonder how the German people had been induced to turn on the Jews, who had been largely assimilated into the German mainstream for several generations. Now I can see how a successful propaganda campaign can easily convince even intelligent people that black is white, up is down, and war is peace.

  •  Democrats should refuse to go on any (1+ / 0-)
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    of their shows....let them all become Fox.

    Getting harder to create reality, when the CIA is on your ass. Who wants two more years like the last six??? VOTE!

    by mattes on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:59:32 AM PDT

  •  Holy shit (24+ / 0-)
    It's all starting to make sense.

    Every time it gets close to election time, the corporate media turn hard right.

    Question is, how do we win the 2006 election with this shit going on?

  •  Great diary. This also points out that those (4+ / 0-)

    that would reap the most from a Cheney/Whomever presidency care little for the morality play that was used to get them in power. (One of the reasons why I think Cheney will want Santorum to be his presidential runningmate in 2008 is just for that.) These folks will see their personal wealth grow exponentially, and they know that that money will allow them to avoid any and all religon based laws (such as banning abortion). Some of them are now beginning to understand the dirty deal that they made; others like the money too much to ever see it.

  •  When we get Congress back (11+ / 0-)

    I think there should be a great deal of corporate asset seizure and fine assessment.  I also think that either we break up the media conglomorates or we nationalize them.  And as for Diebold, just destroy that company.

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." J. Lennon

    by trashablanca on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:03:00 AM PDT

    •  Corporate Asset Seizure (9+ / 0-)

      I am very much in favor of that for all the companies that have illegally or unethically profited off of this so-called war.

      •  Are you serious? (0+ / 0-)

        Asset seizure for "unethically" profiting from war? That sounds more like payback than blind justice in a nation of laws. Creating new laws about the ethics of profiting in a war to just score a couple of political points sounds like a dangerous precedent to start.

        "It is one of the blessings of old friends that you can afford to be stupid with them." ---Ralph Waldo Emerson

        by goon 01 on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:57:33 AM PDT

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        •  Might not be necessary ... (4+ / 0-)
          It might not be necessary, if existing laws were enforced and various oversight committees could/would do their jobs.

          In any case, I find it bizarre that there seems to be more support in this country for a death penalty for actual people than the equivalent penalty for corporations.  

          There is nothing sacrosanct about a corporation.  It's a fictional construct, explicitly designed to accumulate wealth.  It's not evil, but it is amoral, in the strict sense of the word -- "lacking moral sensibility".  If, as a fictional construct, it is doing more harm than good to actual people, then there is no reason to keep it around.  Auction off the assets, provide a reasonable safety net to such former employees as need one, and let some other company fill the niche -- if there really was one.

          Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.

          by Bearpaw on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:17:50 PM PDT

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          •  What... (2+ / 0-)
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   the end game?

            Corporations scared into acting in the public interest?  Who would determine that public interest? If it were political bodies making that decision then 'acting in the public interest' would be the same as pandering to which ever political party was in charge at the time. And when political shifts occurred, there would be a "Great American Job Purge" That doesn't seem like a practical solution.

            Seizing the assets of a corporation, GE for example, would lead to the elimination of thousands of jobs. Those who were financially well off before the purge would weather the storm with little difficulty, those in middle management and below would be screwed.

            While I agree that corporations were, historically, legal fictions, recent Supreme Court decisions have made them into legal fictions with rights. They are also a useful means for limiting personal risk in the creation of new enterprises.

            I think that supporting further competition in consolidated markets and enforcing anti-trust legislation is the most effective and least likely to cause massive economic upheaval.

            "It is one of the blessings of old friends that you can afford to be stupid with them." ---Ralph Waldo Emerson

            by goon 01 on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:36:24 PM PDT

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            •  and if our country is ever to be truly (6+ / 0-)

              for the people by the people, we have to overturn that court ruling that gave corporations personhood.

              Let your conscience be your guide.

              by Jiminy Cricket on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:53:13 PM PDT

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            •  hoo boy (7+ / 0-)
              Corporations scared into acting in the public interest?  Who would determine that public interest? If it were political bodies making that decision then 'acting in the public interest' would be the same as pandering to which ever political party was in charge at the time. And when political shifts occurred, there would be a "Great American Job Purge" That doesn't seem like a practical solution.

              Lemme 'splain something.  There's these things called "courts", which are part of the "judicial branch" of the government.  They're not perfect by any means, but they're more-or-less shielded from short-term political shifts.

              Seizing the assets of a corporation, GE for example, would lead to the elimination of thousands of jobs. Those who were financially well off before the purge would weather the storm with little difficulty, those in middle management and below would be screwed.

              If we provided as much of safety net for real people as we do for (politically-connected) corporations, most folks could "weather the storm" just fine and probably be better off in the long run.  Granted, things might get tough for people who specialize in benefitting from hiding behind corporate laws, but perhaps we can send them to a good jobs-training program where they can learn productive skills they can be proud of.

              While I agree that corporations were, historically, legal fictions, recent Supreme Court decisions have made them into legal fictions with rights. They are also a useful means for limiting personal risk in the creation of new enterprises.

              That was the original intent.  With the gradual quiet elimination of transparency and legal checks, they've become a useful means for limiting personal responsibility.

              I think that supporting further competition in consolidated markets and enforcing anti-trust legislation is the most effective and least likely to cause massive economic upheaval.

              Really enforcing anti-trust legislation necessarily involves at least the possibility -- however rarely done -- of revoking corporate charters.  Regardless of the rights corporate "persons" have been granted, they are not people, and treating their individual existence as a sacred right is perverse.

              Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.

              by Bearpaw on Mon May 08, 2006 at 01:23:09 PM PDT

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              •  It's not just perverse, it's unAmerican (2+ / 0-)
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                because those three Supreme Court judgments amount to an unassailable fiscal advantage for corporations against the average working American citizen. When corporations gained the leverage of political speech, when it was equated with money, they became the loudest voice in the room and that of American citizens was quickly drowned out as the money flowed into Congress.

                Part of the real reason we are here on the net is because in the mass media world such voices as ours have been little more than a whimper. For the moment, knock on wood, we are free to speak the truth and gain power and be heard. Knock on wood...knock on wood...knock on wood...

        •  Serious? (1+ / 0-)
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          Yes, I am serious.

  •  Russert's recent praise of Bush-look alike... (11+ / 0-)

    ...and subtle put-down (without naming names) of Colbert supports your theory.

    "I am my brother's keeper. I am a Democrat." -- That's your slogan, Democrats.

    by Bensdad on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:05:12 AM PDT

  •  Thankfully those kind of broad tactics (1+ / 0-)
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    only really work in national elections. GE can not keep Dems from taking Congress with those tactics because they are local. They can TRY, in certain races, to restrict the margins, but calling Bush so he goes into the recount already declared can not be reproduced on the local or even state level. Keeping my fingers crossed.

    ...and now that I'm cooking with THAT line of seasoning...

    by bastrop on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:07:36 AM PDT

  •  Highly recommended (5+ / 0-)
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    This diary is horrifying, but a must read.  One of the best I've read lately.  

    Only question: how has KO resisted the importunings of GE?  Is it only because his show started after Welch retired?  Or does he just not care about avoiding pauperdom as much as Timmy and Tweety do?

    Sometimes you cover your ass with the lame excuses you have, instead of the lame excuses you wish for. (-3.00, -5.49)

    by litigatormom on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:10:37 AM PDT

  •  The Soviets understood this (6+ / 0-)

    ... watching in satisfaction as former Democrats like Russert and MSNBC's Chris Matthews eagerly discarded the baggage of their former progressive beliefs in exchange for cold hard GE cash. Russert was now an especially obedient and model employee in whom the company could take pride.

    Wave around enough money and you'll eventually find an American who'll sell us all down the river.

  •  I suspected this much after reading about (2+ / 0-)
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    corporate ownership of American society.

    Reading about the Coors family was enough for me.  



  •  Incredible diary! Recommended!! (3+ / 0-)
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  •  Who's organizing the boycott? (0+ / 0-)

    I'm personally boycotting all NBC enterprises starting immediately. What's a good general news site now that I'm not reading MSNBC for anything?

    The true Ben Franklin quote from Poor Richard's Almanack is "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."

    by Andy30tx on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:12:52 AM PDT

  •  Everything always comes back to 'Network' (5+ / 0-)
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    "Justice is a knee in the gut from the floor on the chin at night sneaky with a knife brought up down on the magazine of a battleship..."

    by Sylvester McMonkey Mcbean on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:13:00 AM PDT

    •  Jack Welch? (6+ / 0-)

      "Justice is a knee in the gut from the floor on the chin at night sneaky with a knife brought up down on the magazine of a battleship..."

      by Sylvester McMonkey Mcbean on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:15:11 AM PDT

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    •  Too good not to quote the whole thing: (8+ / 0-)

      Jensen: You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

      You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, Reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

      It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!

      Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

      You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

      What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.

      We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

      And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.

      Beale: But why me?

      Jensen: Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.

      Beale: I have seen the face of God.

      Jensen: You just might be right, Mr. Beale.

      "Justice is a knee in the gut from the floor on the chin at night sneaky with a knife brought up down on the magazine of a battleship..."

      by Sylvester McMonkey Mcbean on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:22:07 AM PDT

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  •  Olberman was trying to tell us (19+ / 0-)

    Watching Countdown on the Monday after Colbert's jaw-dropping rip, I had the feeling Olberman and Milbank had been instructed from on high to pooh-pooh it.  Sure enough, at the end of his lame segment with Dana Milbank, he told us so:

    Networks call the shot.  Don‘t you forget it Dana Milbank. 

    •  Milbank (2+ / 0-)
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      Dana Milbank is a arrogant as any of the new generation of Reagan youth Corp. jounrnalist as has come along in a long time. He's a punk with a suit on. I love to smash a creme pie into his pudgy smirking excuse for a face.

      "It's better to die on your feet then live on your knees"

      by Blutodog on Mon May 08, 2006 at 01:04:45 PM PDT

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  •  Oh the irony: Bush was a C-student (4+ / 0-)
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    ... and apparently, many were "gentleman's C's" -- i.e., the kind you give to rich kids to keep their daddies happy.

    For someone apparently a devotee of Ayn Rand, isn't it obvious that GWB is James Taggart -- the child of wealth who couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag, bankrupts his company and brings down the entire economy?

  •  What's New? (3+ / 0-)
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    Excellent Diary

    So what's new?

    I think there is a hefty majority of kossacks who could see this in the Mainstream Medias News patterns but didn't have the evidence you presented here. You can't help but notice the hardcore sucking up to Republicans that was done by most of the pundits.

    I think this is in the Top 5 of Issues that Americans Should be FURIOUS OVER!!! (But it is such a long list)

  •  Recommend (2+ / 0-)
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    The title of this diary alone is worth a recommend.

  •  Should be front-paged. (3+ / 0-)
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    This makes so much sense, it hurts.

  •  Now I know why I've always had (0+ / 0-)

    the urge to retch when seeing a picture of that ugly little gnome, Jack Welch.

    I never quite understood the buzz about him or his mistress.  I never understood why he had to write a book about himself.  

    Now I see that I was reacting to the sheer accumulation of wealth and power.  Nauseating.  Just who in the hell does he think he is?

  •  V for Vacuous (1+ / 0-)
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    Which I hope the V for Voting population is not.  The uncomfortably Visionary V for Vendetta paints a caricature Very close to this path.  V is for Venom..Tweety and Russert help to pump the half-truths through the semi-comatose body of public reality.

  •  I have recommended the diary..BUT.. (10+ / 0-)

    I would like to see sources, citations or something and till then, everything is speculation and hearsay.

    I have my doubts and I have my agreements with the diarist.

    I don't think Chris Matthews is a GOP plant. Seriously, I don't. He is a shill for himself, an influence peddler. He is a wannabe who loves the company of the kool kids and the influential. He sees himself as the bridge between blue collar, hard drinking, football watching Pittsburg to the intellectual, rich and influential DC/coastal crowd. Next time Stanford is mentioned on the show, I bet anyone here $10 that he will say the words, "My wife's alma mater". Wanna bet?

    I didn't have an opinion either way of TR till yesterday. I saw the morning diary calling TR an asshole and I thought that he must have made 1 off the cuff remark to get someone offended.

    Then I watched the 10pm re-cast and I was shocked! I've seen other TR MTP shows and he is generally friendly to his guests and doesn't follow through hard.

    Yesterday, with Pelosi, it was like he was under some pressure to make her crack. Did you guys watch Pelosi shaking and a quiver in her voice by the way? But TR was a very hostile interviewer for that portion and then back to his normal self in the next segment.

    I've always wondered what is the true reason behind the media's inability to report the truth:

    1. Because as Colbert said, reality has a liberal bent and if they reported it, the O'Reillys of this world would yell "liberul"?
    1. Or is it as some here allege that this is because of corporate ownership?
    1. Or is it that they love their access, their high salaries and have some ideological identification with the Republicans?
    •  All of the above, I'd bet (3+ / 0-)
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      Haven't read the article yet, but all three factors combine.  Very few people walk around saying "hell, yeah, I'll sell my principles for the highest bidder, no problem." It becomes part of the corporate atmosphere, there's varying degrees of pressure, one likes having access and not having to worry about money, etc.  Suddenly you're in deep and, yeah, I can imagine having to face that would terrify them.

    •  Boy, you haven't seen Russert very much (4+ / 0-)
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      if you think this is not normal for him.  

      He regularly grills folks like Biden and Dean in the same accusatory manner.  

      It is painful to watch.

      He is generally quite civil to more GOP leaning types or those who want to promote W's agenda.  The only time that I can remember Russert being tough on the Bush administration was after Katrina.  Perhpas others can provide more information.  

      I have more than once wanted to throw my tv out the window while watching him.  

      In answer to your questions, I think that it is a combination of two and three, intertwined so that you could not tell which motive was driving them.  

      There is no doubt in my mind that corporations and the Whitehouse put pressure on the media to conform, Lou Dobbs talked about how he was pressured by the Whitehouse to shut up about the ports deal.  

    •  please editor and maintain a good rep (1+ / 0-)
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      The news business is very peer-group in Washington at least. They are nice people with elite educations and a certain ambition. The main thing is to please your editor who is usually all-powerful and the editors are editors because they know what toes not to step on and what stories are "news". It is also important to maintain a good standing among peers who could be your editor in the future and whose good opinion makes a difference. In this group of peers there are certain fashionable opinions and phrases that pop in and out of favor--if I had to describe it reporters are very sensitive to "fashion" not truth or ideas and certainly not "crusading" for justice etc.-- that is definitely considered impolite. In short their situation is much like people in most any industry only with a bit more pressure to conform due to the very high stakes involved. To be branded as "irresponsible" is the kiss of death.

      Om Lokaha Samastaha Sukhino Bhavantu (may all beings in all the worlds be happy)

      by Chris Cosmos on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:32:24 PM PDT

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  •  Public Ownership (3+ / 0-)
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    What type of Subsidies/Freebies are these Companys getting, anything that can be taken off the table by the American People for this sell-out?

  •  Great post. (6+ / 0-)

    I had long suspected that it was cold hard cash, and your prose and links make it all clear just how that worked.  We can see more evident links of similar behavior from Sumner Redstone and his minions at Viacom over CBS news.  There is in fact as far as I have read very little substance to the panel report slamming 60 minutes, but it was wielded to great effect to tame  the news division there.  I am sure that Time-Warner, where Richard Parsons is an acknowledged republican, have placed similar pushes on the CNN crew.  When you reflect on it all, there is no doubt that Olbermann could not have returned to MSNBC if Welch were still the big cheese.  

    Clearly, Welch is an example of what Galbraith calls predators
    in the predator state.  He cares not one whit about the
    circumstances of the world, whether people are better off or not.  The greedy bastard obviously only cares about what enriches him, and by extension, GE.  While Galbraith's column is, in some sense, nothing new, explicitly labelling BushCo, Welch, and the ilk as `predators' is a good effort at a new meme.  I urge you all to read it.

    •  That's a fine reference. Thanks, dlcox1958 (0+ / 0-)

      Also mentioned in the article is Richard K. Black's The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One.

      James Stewart's Den of Thieves about Michael Milkin, et. al., touched on the process of the ultra complex transaction at the very edge - and over it - of the law.

      And this is a great quote by Galbraith:

      "[Black's] theory of 'control fraud' addresses the situation in which the leader of an organization uses his company as a 'weapon' of fraud and a 'shield' against prosecution - a situation with which law and economics cannot cope."

      Can you say Enron? This is exactly what was, and still is, going on with many corporations. And I bet there are many more which can be named right now engaged in such predatory process, as well as NBC under Jack Welch who lied to the FCC (as noted upthread) and subverted the Constitutional directive of Freedom of the Press.

  •  Hypocrisy = Russert (3+ / 0-)
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    He wrote that book about his dad. What does he do in his professional life? He becomes a shill for the powers that make the lives of those men like his father much, much harder. His support for a party that gives billions of taxpayer money to the energy, pharmaceutical, and media companies while clamping down on men like is father with the bankruptcy bill is outrageous. Watching Sunday him grilling Pelosi about the Democrats getting rid of the tax cuts for the rich made me realize just who he cares about. He must need a new vacation home or something. The interesting thing is that we might not win in the 06 but we will in the end. The Democrats have to contend with right wing radio, a corporate media with shills such a Russert and a Republican party while having no conscience are geniuses at marketing. Their message is believe what we tell you and not what your lying eyes see. Selfishness and greed always lead to disaster and at some point the scales will fall from the eyes of those who are now fooled. I thing that is starting to happen

    "If standing up for the Constitution and rule of law is a "stunt," then I'll take it."

    by Jlukes on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:33:56 AM PDT

  •  Nice work (3+ / 0-)
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    This has to be in the top 5 best diaries I've read on KOS.  Thank you!

    Liberals and conservatives are two gangs who have intimidated rational, normal thinking beings into not having a voice on television or in the culture.

    by Dave B on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:36:48 AM PDT

    •  I second that motion (0+ / 0-)

      Superb dairy, thank you for taking the time to put it together.
      The more I read, the more I research, the more I understand, the more I feel the rage purcolating inside me. As god as my witness I hope to see the day all of these bastards are mounted on pikes in front of the Washington Monument.
      They are truly evil incarnate. You heard me NSA, go fuck yourselves.

      Impeach and Imprison! -6.63/-6.10

      by FireCrow on Mon May 08, 2006 at 03:50:32 PM PDT

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  •  NBC poll response increasingly likes Hayden (1+ / 0-)
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    Another Good-Ole-Bush appointee is headed for increased acceptance! At first "Today's Question" on MSNBC had a 60%-40% unfavorable response when viewers gave opinion about Hayden. Since then, the conservative blogs must be aksing for a freep. Go there and do some counter-freeping!

    •  They've conditioned the public...... (0+ / 0-) think of the military as big daddy. It's part of the genius of how they've used the boy and girl troops as cover for the more sinister people who actually call the shots. It's funny how they cried that ex-generals critizing Rumsfield was undermining civil control of the military but thinking nothing of putting a general in charge of the CIA.

  •  The same to you (2+ / 0-)
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    Before you even get past the title of the diary, you have managed to insult women, homosexuals and even female dogs.  I guess you don't feel you can properly insult a man, unless you suggest he's a woman, gay, and/or a dog.  Well, if you exclude the women and homosexuals (I doubt the dogs are reading your diary), you'll still have straight men for an audience.   I hope you all enjoy your "in" joke at our expense.  

    Real bitches are actually quite respected.  The ferocity with which a female will guard her young is lengendary, and it is this courage and strength that gave rise to the term.  Did you actually mean to compliment Russert?

    Regardless of whether you meant to insult him, or compliment him, it is a huge distraction from the actual meat of your diary.

    •  Most women put up with it. (0+ / 0-)

      Seriously, most women don't realize the inherent insult to the entire gender when a man is called a "bitch".  It's the more obscene version of saying a guy runs like a girl.  

      The title is offensive and unnecessary, but despite all the women here on DK, there's only a few of us who are going to get upset at the title.  And we're already being dismissed with the wave of a hand.  I'm counting the minutes until we're accused of overreacting or being "feminazis".

      Yeah, we're really progressive over here in Leftbloggerland, aren't we?

      -4.88, -8.21 "I love this country!" - Yakov Smirnoff

      by CommiePinkoScum on Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:35:20 PM PDT

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  •  makes me vomit (1+ / 0-)
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    somebody should question Russert on this.

    Bush gives pubic hair a bad name.

    by seesdifferent on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:38:24 AM PDT

  •  Outstanding diary... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...I was glued to every paragraph.

    You've given me yet another set of facts to support my contention that Jack Welch is an over-rated shitbag.

    Not that I needed any more reasons (I briefly worked for a division of GE Financial).

    As for the title, which some consider offensive - if you change it to "butt-boy," I won't mind.

    "...psychopaths have little difficulty infiltrating the domains of...politics, law enforcement, (and) government." Dr. Robert Hare

    by RubDMC on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:40:12 AM PDT

  •  Top 10 on the all-time list, this (4+ / 0-)
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    Excellent work. A new starting point from which to not only launch into Russert and Matthews, but also to dig into their shenanigans, especially Russert. It is so infuriating that he kept reporting on the Plame issue for so long never informing his viewers that he was involved in the story and that he knew the answers to what he would publicly question people about. That is so. wrong.

    But hey—I guess he knew Welch had his back.

    Thanks for this

    Today's Special: Chickenhawk, slow-baked in its mother's basement.

    by Earl on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:41:57 AM PDT

  •  Pravda (4+ / 0-)
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    Except our corporate media whores make a lot more money.

  •  I rarely comment, (9+ / 0-)

    but this so hits the mark that I have to. As a former Fortune 500 exec, and one that worships Jack Welch to boot, this sounds like just how it works.  Wink, nod, clear throat, DONE.

    •  yes, such people know (0+ / 0-)

      what's good for themselves and each other and take care of their mutual interests. but worship jack welch? want to say more?

    •  please speak more (4+ / 0-)
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      We want and need your perspective and insight.  I say this as someone who has written on business for nearly 25 years.  People like you know that things have gone too far -- way, way too far.  You and I could talk about it over lunch, as interviewer and interviewee -- I've had the conversation many times over the years with people who've grown more earnest and concerned with the passage of time.  But it's time to take the quiet conversations and make them more broadly audible.  Please post a diary.
    •  I have had the opportunity(?) of attending... (2+ / 0-)
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      many symposia / business conferences wherein Jack Welch was one of (in his view, undoubtedly the major) speakers.  With a couple of thousand mid to high level corporate executives in attendance...the audience (in most every case, pre and post Welch at GE) was if the second coming...Christ, Himself on stage.  At the last conference that I attended with Welch present...the evening cocktail hour was across the pool from the was rumored that Welch didn't need to walk around the pool to hit the bar...he just walked straight across the water.

      Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

      by TheRef on Mon May 08, 2006 at 06:07:26 PM PDT

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  •  GE = IG Farben (la plus ca change...) (9+ / 0-)

    The most powerful German economic corporate emporium in the first half of this century was the Interessengemeinschaft Farben or IG Farben, for short. Interessengemeinschaft stands for "Association of Common Interests" and was nothing other than a powerful cartel of BASF, Bayer, Hoechst, and other German chemical and pharmaceutical companies. IG Farben was the single largest donor to the election campaign of Adolph Hitler. One year before Hitler seized power, IG Farben donated 400,000 marks to Hitler and his Nazi party. Accordingly, after Hitler's seizure of power, IG Farben was the single largest profiteer of the German conquest of the world, the Second World War.


    And Wikipedia's history adds:

    Of the 24 directors of IG Farben indicted in the so-called IG Farben Trial (1947-1948)c before a U.S. military tribunal at the subsequent Nuremberg Trials, 13 were sentenced to prison terms between 1½ and eight years.

    Due to the severity of the war crimes committed by IG Farben during World War II and the extensive involvement of the management in the Nazi atrocities, the company was considered to be too corrupt to be allowed to continue to exist, and the allies considered confiscating all of its assets and putting it out of business. Instead, in 1951, the company was split up into the original constituent companies. The four largest quickly bought the smaller ones, and today only Agfa, BASF, and Bayer remain, while Hoechst merged with the French Rhône-Poulenc Rorer to form Aventis, now based in Strasbourg, France.

    After the Holocaust, I.G. Farben joined with Americans to develop chemical warfare agents.

    "The danger of repression is greater than the danger of debate."

    by Valtin on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:49:10 AM PDT

    •  I see I.G. Farben, (1+ / 0-)
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      I immediately think Gravity's Rainbow.  Like Pavlov's dog.  

      I think Gravity's Rainbow, I immediately think "massive, global conspiracy," so it's not too far off the mark.

      Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

      by pico on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:52:47 PM PDT

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    •  I used to work for Hoechst. (1+ / 0-)
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      I heard the history of its involvement with Hitler and the death camps back during the pre-war. It was a shameful history that many Jewish Physicians I called on let me know about. Hoechst had a poor history like Bayer in the 1930's.

      That comment by you is so true as to the evolutions of many bad things that happened, long ago by corportations that do not have the national interest at heart, rather than profit.

      See, Fox, GEgopNBC.

      "These guys are biggest bunch of lying crooks I have ever seen" John Kerry

      by alnc on Mon May 08, 2006 at 08:47:45 PM PDT

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  •  And there's no better stenographer than (2+ / 0-)
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    ... Norah O'Donnell. At my home, we call her "Norah! Norah! Norah!" when she's on the attack. Jeez. On Hardball Friday she did an initial brief piece on Porter Goss and spent the remainder of the hour castigating Pat Kennedy. She really got so enflamed, it was obvious where her heart lies ... in her bankbook.

  •  I was hoping to see a diary on yesterday's MTP... (9+ / 0-)

    Did anyone see the fervor, the passion, the BULLYING that Russert attacked Pelosi with yesterday? I've never seen Russert attack any guest ever the way he spoke to Pelosi, sarcastic, skeptical, like a dog with a rag. It was disgusting. Didn't anyone else see this?

    •  I saw it (4+ / 0-)
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      and I agree that Russert was excessively harsh and unfair, at times to the point of being ridiculous.  He kept pushing her to say that the Dems would raise taxes, among other things.  He also tried the "bipartisan corruption" thing, and brought up the specious arguments about Reid having taken money from Abramoff clients.  Pelosi was clearly shaken, but she did quite well.  For some reason, though, she didn't address the Reid issue.  I think by that point she was drained.

      •  And I saw it.. (3+ / 0-)
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        Frankly, if TR were always like that with McCain and Frist and Delay and Boehner and other Republicans, I would have zero problems with him taking Pelosi to the mat (ok, no dirty jokes here! ;)). But does he follow up hard and ask them if they endorse the illegal acts of the Bush Administration like he did on the tax cut rollback question?

  •  Best Diary (2+ / 0-)
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    This is both the best and the scariest diary I have ever read on DailyKos.  The thing is it makes so much sense.  Somehow this needs to get greater play.  Also, what was the relationship between Welch and Don Imus who also seemed to change.  He was no genius in New York thirty years ago, but he wasn't a corporatist.

  •  Saturday Night Live an obvious victim (3+ / 0-)
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    I personally like the idea that SNL and other comedy shows stay reasonably bipartisan, but SNL's performance during and even after the 2004 election was just truly scandalously neutered. It didn't even make fun of Kerry very much, let alone Dubya.

    I've met several SNL cast members, and I think that most of them are way to the left of me. Lorne Michaels gives heavily to Democrats. So, obviously, someone at NBC who's over Lorne Michael must have told him something like, "You can do one or two segments about national politics, and a few Weekend Update jokes about politics, and that's it. Any more, and you're welcome to do open mikes in Gary, Ind."

  •  their name is mud (1+ / 0-)
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    Well, thank you for that information.  I will never watch NBC again, nor will I ever buy GE products.  

    The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. Thomas Jefferson

    by Thea VA on Mon May 08, 2006 at 11:59:44 AM PDT

    •  But what about Keith? (0+ / 0-)

      I can't give up Olbermann.

      Sometimes you cover your ass with the lame excuses you have, instead of the lame excuses you wish for. (-3.00, -5.49)

      by litigatormom on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:19:39 PM PDT

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      •  He's the exception (0+ / 0-)

        Welch can point to to refute the rule. One liberal a pattern breaks. Except it doesn't. Anyone paying attention realizes the disclaimer is about as valid as the fact that Tony Snow has criticized Bush - for not being more conservative.

        With Olbermann, Welch will continue fooling only the people he's already fooled.

  •  recommended, recommended, recommended! (2+ / 0-)
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    If I could hit the button a thousand times, I would!

    Damn, great stuff.

    Don't forget -- GE's own annual report for 2003 said clearly that the Iraq war would be worth something like 9 billion to their bottom line!

    I'm gonna go look for the link now.  I used to have it somewhere.

    The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer -- Henry Kissinger

    by theyrereal on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:00:04 PM PDT

  •  'Congress shall make no law... (2+ / 0-)
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    "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..."

    So reads the First Amendment to that goddamned scrap of paper, the United States Constitution.  I would submit that the laws facilitating corporate consolidation of media ownership have in fact so abridged both of those freedoms.

    But that's just me...

    "...the big trouble with dumb bastards is that they are too dumb to believe there is such a thing as being smart." -- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

    by Roddy McCorley on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:06:27 PM PDT

    •  The Framers (2+ / 0-)
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      lived in a pre-industrial backwater, a collection of 13 primitive little colonies clinging to the edge of a huge, largely unknown (to them) continent still dominated by hostile or potentially hostile powers (Great Britain, France, First Nations).  It was the 18th century's version of West Bumblefuck.  

      In their experience, the only power capable of systematically depriving (priviledged, propertied) people of their Creator-given freedoms was a government controlled by a despot, usually in concert with a hereditary aristocracy.  Ergo, if you severely limit the power of government, through restricting its power in the Constitution, and then dividing up the power it does have among three rival branches of government; and then if you eliminate hereditary Titles, liberty is maintained, QED.

      They never contemplated Rockefeller or Carnegie controlling all of the nation's oil or trains; they never contemplated company towns, or private gangs like the Pinkertons hired by superrich bosses to murder workers.  And they never imagined a company like GE or a person like Jack Welch or Rupert Murdoch, who can single-handedly warp the nation's press and government to their own private, selfish, and evil designs.

      Had they had any experience with industrial or post-industrial capitalism, they might have written a different document.  Naturally, however, they wrote the Constitution based on their experiences in a set of small, irrelevant agrarian colonies.  But anyone who thinks government is the only threat to personal liberty in the world of the 21st century is an idiot.

      "Run, comrade, the old world is behind you!" -- Situationist graffito, 1968

      by Pesto on Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:12:27 PM PDT

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      •  And yet strangely enough (1+ / 0-)
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        They had an appreciation of fighting for one's liberty - and had a first-hand knowledge of the immorality and injustice of a form of government in which small elites of individuals were given WAY too much power.

        One of the big problems with most Americans right now is that the idea that a small elite of people might be trying to wrest away their power seems like a fairy tale as opposed to something that could ACTUALLY happen.

        In a manner of speaking, the majority of American people live in a MENTAL political backwater - totally disengaged from their own participation in a democratic form of government and leaving themselves vulnerable to getting screwed over because of it.

  •  Everything's good, but ... (0+ / 0-)

    How is he going to feel when people like John Conyers (whom he smeared this morning -- and Conyers fires back here) start looking into the all-too-cozy relationship that the press had with the White House in leading the country down the garden path to war?

    I'd be shocked if anything remotely resembling this scenario happens in the event of a dem takeover of Congress. I don't believe Rep. Conyers has the guts to go that far and may not see anything to gain by doing it anyway. He and his pals will be too busy grilling the pols.

    •  Are you for real? (2+ / 0-)
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      Seriously, upon what do you base this astute analysis and prediction? Could it be Conyers' relentless attempts to hold hearings and conduct investigations into the GOP's election fraud and Bush's illegal wiretap program? Could it be the book his committee published last year on the 2004 election fraud in Ohio? Could it be the numerous articles he's written condeming Bush and the GOP and calling for real oversight?

      When Conyers assumes the role of judiciary committee chairman next year, he will absolutely launch major investigations and conduct prominent hearings into each and every suspicion of wrongdoing by Bush and the GOP, including collusion with the media to help throw elections and win the public over to its agenda, including the war and the lies spread to promote it.

      If you don't believe this, then either you don't know the first thing about Conyers, are a defeatist troll, or else you're a right-wing shill.

      So which one is it?

      "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

      by kovie on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:53:10 PM PDT

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      •  You need to read more carefully ... (0+ / 0-)

        The suggestion in the quote (that's the bit in italics) is that Conyers would use investigative resources to expose the "cozy relationship" between the press and the White House. It is my belief that he would do no such thing beause it would be a strategic blunder and a waste of time and resources.

        Then I said this: [Conyers] and his pals will be too busy grilling the pols..


        So, which part of my comment did you actually read and digest? You seem to have missed much.

        •  I read the part where you said that Conyers lacks (0+ / 0-)

          the GUTS to go after the media and its relationship with the WH in the run-up to the war. It is THAT part that I took issue with--and still do.

          You seem to have conveniently left this part out of your response, instead making it sound like your reasons for predicting that Conyers wouldn't do this was because he'd decide that it was a waste of time, and he'd be too busy anyway.


          I think you need to read your own comments more carefully.

          "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

          by kovie on Mon May 08, 2006 at 01:58:56 PM PDT

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  •  The solution is simple (4+ / 0-)
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    The above is right out of the 70's movie Network. Life imitates art sometimes, clearly, down to the trashy programming and the famous "fear of god" speech that the Ned Beatty character (who played the role of the CEO of the megacorporation that owned the station on which the movie was based) gave to the Peter Finch character (who played the angry and slightly crazed news anchor who was "Mad as hell and was not going to take it anymore!") to get him to play ball and shill for the company's interests.

    When Demcocrats retake Congress and the White House, they need to:

    1. Pass legislation that forbids media ownership by non-media companies. Independance in the financial and accounting industries was a big issue several years ago. Given the power of the media, it should be an even bigger one for the media industry.

      Sorry, but companies that make multi-billion dollar weapons systems should not be allowed to use the media companies they own to shill for war (or actively cover up their complicity in promoting media deregulation let alone their refusal to pay for the cleaning up of PCBs in the Hudson River).

      GE should be forced to divest itself of NBC and MSNBC, and barred from investing in or starting up new media ventures. They can continue to build media hardware, but not deliver content.

    2. Similarly, passs legislation to drastically lower the percentage of market share that any one media company can own in any one market or segment. Competition might be a bitch for shareholders but that's the price of being a capitalist--and in the end what makes it succeed. Clear Channel, News Corp, etc., should similarly be forced to break up their vast media empires.
    3. ENFORCE the above.
    4. Re-enforce the Fairness Doctrine, which requires that media companies allow equal airtime to differing positions and factions.

    Then, George Soros should buy NBC/MSNBC and FIRE half the staff, including Tweety, Russert, Carlson, Scarborough, Cosby and Abrams--not because they're right-wing shills, but because they SUCK and are hurting the country not to mention an embarrassment to the journalistic field--all the news directors (except for Olbermann's--let that be his choice), and hire real journalists and fair pundits to work in front of and behind the camera (imagine having Dan Rather, Ted Koppel, Aaron Brown, Robert Scheer and Phil Donahue all on the same channel!). And then issue a directive: No more missing white woman stories!

    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

    by kovie on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:12:20 PM PDT

    •  good idea but not very likely (0+ / 0-)

      Power is what it is. You don't take a bone away from a snarling dog unless you are ready to mix it up big-time. No such laws can be passed under any circumstances. I was working as a temp in a big-time lobbying concern in DC when the Clinton health plan hit. Man money came pouring into DC like you wouldn't believe--I stayed long enough to get to know the scene and was asked to stay on but it was too sleazy for me (not that I was a stranger to sleaze). In Washington money talks, bullshit walks.

      Better solution is to stop watching TV and encourage your friends to do so as well. This is particularly true for kids--believe me there is a lot more to life.

      Om Lokaha Samastaha Sukhino Bhavantu (may all beings in all the worlds be happy)

      by Chris Cosmos on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:40:52 PM PDT

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      •  The Clinton health plan isn't a good example (0+ / 0-)

        of why corporate money always beats sound policy, because it was a half-baked policy that was thrown together in a couple of months and then sold poorly. It would have died even without massive corporate lobbying against it.

        I've worked in the health insurance field on the tech side but working very closely with front office professionals and this stuff is incredibly complex from a legal, medical, business and technical perspective, and there's NO WAY this could have been done with a hacked-together panel led by the first lady, who knew nothing about health insurance.

        Plus, Republicans controlled both houses of congress back then and Clinton was sinking in the polls. So this isn't the best of examples to cite.

        I don't know how hard Democrats will try to push through the sort of legislation I proposed when they retake congress and the white house, and you do make very valid points about the corrupting power of money in DC (and you should know having worked on the K Street side of things). But I wouldn't rule it out completely, either.

        There's a huge populist and reformist movement growing in the country at the grass-roots level that spans the political spectrum, and it's going to come down hard on congress and the white house to do something about existing corruption and corporate-friendly laws.

        We're in a very different political climate these days, and done right, some of this might actually happen, I believe. And much of it HAS to happen. We'll have to wait and see, though, and do all that we can to pressure politicians to do the right thing.

        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

        by kovie on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:59:19 PM PDT

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  •  kant... excellent diary (3+ / 0-)
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    I think the performance of Jack Welch is overrated. Most of the shareholder growth during his long tenure was built on acquisitions. If one looks at year-over-year growth of most operating units over any significant period during his tenure, the results are far less mouthwatering. He mainly grew GE by a) removing deadwood (his dictum that each business unit had to be within the top 3 of their vertical), and b) acquiring companies with the vast cash holdings of GE.

    But this kind of lasting damage he has done, and now revealed, will truly have set this country back by several years!!!

  •  What can we do? (0+ / 0-)

    Besides passing this astonishing diary on to everyone we know?  Sign me up for the boycott!

  •  This is a great diary. (0+ / 0-)

    I do wish you hadn't quoted Noam Chomsky, as he is a dishonest hack.

    But it's a great diary and I agree wholeheartedly that we need neutrality in news.

    Or at a minimum, honesty in bias. Fox should not be allowed to claim they are "fair and balanced".

    That's false advertising.

    "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players" - Ben Domenech

    by Brownian Motion on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:20:29 PM PDT

    •  Huh (1+ / 0-)
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      Chomsky is a dishonest hack?  What are you smoking?  If anybody actually sources claims to facts, its Chomsky.  

      •  Follow the link. (0+ / 0-)

        And overcome the propaganda.

        Chomsky shills for holocaust deniers, amoung other things.

        Some advice for you, my friend... be skeptical and don't believe th hype.

        "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players" - Ben Domenech

        by Brownian Motion on Mon May 08, 2006 at 01:11:06 PM PDT

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        •  ? (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm not sure if I would call it shilling:

          It reads more like a defense of freedom of expression, more info at Wikipedia

          I never understand this weird "debate" about Chomsky - I've not read a lot of his work but somehow he is very popular with a lot of people and absolutely despised by many others - every time I've seen one of these allegations about him it always turns out to be an apparent misrepresentation.
          I'm sure the anti-Semitic guy is a big asshole and I can understand why the French hate him so much but you've got to admit that a fundamental principle of freedom of expression is that the guy has a right to express himself. Unless you also think the ACLU are holocaust deniers/anti-Semites?

          Howard Dean has a posse (buy my t-shirts so I can afford YearlyKos!)

          by Jett on Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:25:32 PM PDT

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          •  The holocaust denier business (0+ / 0-)

            is part of a larger pattern of sleaze. As is true with all demagogues (including Bush) his supporters will twist facts and come up with all kinds of specious arguments to defend their Hero.

            Chomsky is of course defending freedom of speech, what a guy!

            It couldn't be that he had the remarkably poor judgement to write a forward for a holocaust denier's book because he didn't bother to do any research on what exactly he was attaching his name to. That couldn't be it.

            Look, I don't know that Chomnsky is especially sympathetic to the holocaust denier crowd. But he is a charlatan. He throws shit on the wall and doesn't really care if it sticks or not. When you're that intellectually dishonest and ethically bankrupt, I guess you're bound to wind up writing forwards for books written by holocaust deniers.

            Freedom of expression? Please.

            "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players" - Ben Domenech

            by Brownian Motion on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:33:32 PM PDT

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            •  here's the thing (0+ / 0-)

              I'm not a "Chomsky supporter" - to me he's just another author. I also don't understand your criticism, as I said - when I look into allegations like yours there never seems to be any substance to them. From what I read about the holocaust denier's book Chomsky did not actually write the forward to his book - he wrote an essay in support of freedom of expression that mentioned that guys situation which was then taken by that guy and included as an intro to his book. To me your allegations seem questionable whereas the explanation for Chomsky's "transgression" seems perfectly plausible.

              Howard Dean has a posse (buy my t-shirts so I can afford YearlyKos!)

              by Jett on Tue May 09, 2006 at 07:59:07 AM PDT

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        •  don't be an ass. (1+ / 0-)
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          Chomsky doesn't believe what that guy belives, he believes in his right to say it, which is WAY different.

          Do your homework.


          Electronic miscounts of votes are a fact, not a theory, so let's fix it!

          by Neutron on Mon May 08, 2006 at 05:33:29 PM PDT

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          •  I believe the KKK has a right to free speech. (0+ / 0-)

            But I won't be writing any forwards for their books.

            You condescendingly suggest "do your homewwork". Have you done yours?

            Did you even read the DeLong post? He meticulously documents Chomskys' literary atrocities.

            It's a pattern of dishonesty and hyperbolic twisting of the truth with this guy. You cannot read one of his books without seeing it.

            He's a demagogue. You don't see it because you don't want to.

            "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players" - Ben Domenech

            by Brownian Motion on Mon May 08, 2006 at 10:26:37 PM PDT

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  •  bets on the Wag the Dog (0+ / 0-)

    this fall?  I mean, it's gotta happen, right?  Given our permanent temporary state of emergency and everything.

    The way to disempower fearmongering autocrats is to examine them so minutely that their activity seems ridiculous and hyperactive. Patricia Taylor

    by station wagon on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:20:34 PM PDT

  •  unsourced (0+ / 0-)

    The greatness of this diary shouldn't be dampered by the fact that it is relaying unsourced information. It's ridiculous to tie one hand behind our back, facing the kind of poor journalism embodied by Tim Russert, by some blind allegiance to "facts" or "jounralistic standards". Let's say it turns out to be "untrue"? What's the harm in that?

    As for the title, while some people have called for a more polite title, its clear that this will get the unsourced title the most attention and scrutiny possible. In fact, the title is so convincing on its own that it might help convince people who are otherwise hung up on "credibility," "truthfulness" or "documentation".

    Daily Kos in general will be a lot stronger if more pieces of writing combine this kind of language and this kind of sourcing.

    "We have found the weapons of mass destruction" -- George Bush, May 30, 2003

    by awol on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:23:26 PM PDT

  •  Outstanding diary, thank you. (3+ / 0-)
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    Truly makes one unerstand why they want to control the internets and keep
    we peasants down.

  •  'click' -- Dots connecting. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Smoking Gun --this diary/post (2+ / 0-)
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    This is a great piece of information.  We need to spread this information, especially Rove's involvement to show how this is been working.  

    When I recently saw Russert literally cut up Al Franken into little pieces (either CNBC or MSNBC) -- at one point Russert looked at the camera before a break, smiled and said (regarding his cutting up Al) "...I'm really enjoying this.."   I saw for myself the Russert style that I'd been reading about. He was truly gunning for Franken, there was no doubt.

    Now, how to we turn this into a giant growing snowball that develops more and more momentum?

    Good Luck --- per Murrow.


  •  speaking of net neutrality, is DKOS running slow? (0+ / 0-)

    mine sure seems to be running slower.  while i trid the GE website and it came right up.


    as GE says, how do you picture a healthy world?

    I picture it by full disclosure.  I knew Timmiah and matthews have changed.  It's been sickening.

    "It looks like a one man show here, although there are two men involved" - John Motson

    by blur991 on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:30:05 PM PDT

  •  Fantastic Diary (2+ / 0-)
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    Real eye opener, thanks.

  •  I wondered why NBC went out of its way... (2+ / 0-)
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    Agathena, boofdah kill West Wing.  Too. Damned. Liberal.

    -9.50;-6.62. But it don't mean nuttin if you don't put your money where your mouth is

    by ultrageek on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:38:57 PM PDT

  •  Hate to be a buzzkill (0+ / 0-)

    But are there any actual verifiable facts in this diary?  It all sounds completely plausible and reasonable, if sinister.  But I kept looking for on the record comments, double sourced quotes or anything grounding all this to reality.  I hope its all true, but it doesn't exactly read like an issue of Nature.

  •  NBC=NothingButCheaters (except KO off course) n/t (0+ / 0-)

    Los Blogueros "Faith-based surrealism from Washington, DC"

    by chechecule on Mon May 08, 2006 at 01:00:39 PM PDT

  •  I'm SO GLAD to see Jack Welch getting called out (3+ / 0-)
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    He has been such a sleaze. This is exactly what we have to do. List the crimes of the CEOs who are ruining America and the world.

  •  Good stuff, but please change the title (1+ / 0-)
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    It makes you sound like a skinny highschool boy with a little car that he spends too much money on.

  •  GE - who helped launch Ronal Reagan (0+ / 0-)

    he was a GE spokesman

  •  Hell Yeah! Change the title! (0+ / 0-)

    It should be "How Tim Russert became Jack Welch's bitch".

    •  Change the title, it is offensive (0+ / 0-)

      because it leaves out salivating Matthews.

      It should be

      "How Jack Welch's Two Bitches, Russert & Matthews Became Karl Rove's Bitches too."

      On second thought, maybe that's too long.

      This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS

      by Agathena on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:52:49 PM PDT

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  •  Infuriating. (2+ / 0-)
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    The hell with the people. Gives new meaning to the conversation between Twittie and Welch on Hardball several years ago:

    T: Do you think George W. Bush is a nice guy (on your many golf outings with him)?

    W: Yeah. I think he's a nice guy.

    The male Marie Antoinette. The hell with the peons.

  •  Tim Russert is not a 'shill for BushCo' (0+ / 0-)

    He grills both sides, hits both sides with "gotcha" quotes.  You're just making the error of getting your back up when he does it to liberals and disregarding how much he does it to conservatives.

    Chris Matthews is another story, though still a more nuanced one than you present.  He's a pain in the ass, and often a big jerk.  He was never really a "liberal" as you claimed (people seem to forget that Carter as president was a conservative Democrat, which is why he vetoed so many bills passed by a liberal Democratic Congress, and why Teddy Kennedy ran against him for the 1980 nomination).  He has said that he voted for Bush in 2000.  But today, there's no question but that he is pissed off at Bush--over the war, primarly, but over a few other things as well.  So how can he be a "shill" either?  

    C'mon, people, let's try to think in more complex terms.  It's supposed to be the other side that reduces everything to black and white, to "you're with us or against us".


    -9.00, -3.69 Bush, 12/12/05: "I think we are welcomed [in Iraq]. But it was not a peaceful welcome."

    by SlackerInc on Mon May 08, 2006 at 01:50:31 PM PDT

    •  He may not be a shill but his POV leans (1+ / 0-)
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      and there's nothing wrong with that in my book. The MSM in general caters to the powerful and this is normal and to be expected. Once we know that we can work around it--I mean, why would Russert or anyone else not take the money and do the act? It's theatre and Russert has the advantage of looking and sounding lively which makes for some entertainment. Too many people take the news shows too seriously--they're mainly BS.

      Om Lokaha Samastaha Sukhino Bhavantu (may all beings in all the worlds be happy)

      by Chris Cosmos on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:15:42 PM PDT

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    •  I would have to see come clips of (0+ / 0-)

      Russert being non-partisan, some records of him giving follow-up questions to Republican lies.

      Russert has to give the appearance of objectivity and that's all it ever is, 'appearance.'

      This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS

      by Agathena on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:57:04 PM PDT

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    •  Technically right (2+ / 0-)
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      Russert isn't a shill for Bush.  Russert is a slave to power and the Establishment.  His god is respectibility.  Forty years ago, he'd have crucified Goldwater and the GOP's conservative insurgents, while backslapping Robert McNamara and McGeorge Bundy.  He'd have laughed at the punk beatnik kids protesting the war.  He'd have been bipartisan -- he'd get along swell with both LBJ and Rocky, and he'd have unbridled contempt for crazy Gene McCarthy and that B-movie hack Reagan.

      Russert is as protean as the streets of DC themselves.  He changes to fit the times.  He will always be respectable.

  •  But I Thought... (0+ / 0-)

    that what's good for GE is good for the country.

    Don't tell me it ain't so!


    This is CLASS WAR, and the other side is winning.

    by Mr X on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:00:43 PM PDT

  •  HOO-LEE S**T! (3+ / 0-)
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    It's one thing to suspect this kind of stuff, but it's another thing to read it in black and white.  I've heard the story about Welch intervening in the call for W in 2000.  Much of the other stuff is new, however.

    I believe the stuff about Timmy and Tweety b/c it rings true.  How else would you explain how guys who started out w/ Cuomo and O'Neill, respectively, could become such whores for this WH?  Of the 2, I find Timmy more dangerous and reprehensible.

    Timmy's dangerous b/c he'll occasionally pick on a Gooper so that he can look like someone who still earns his check while working in a vertical position.  He put Coors through the wringer on Press the Meat and Sideshow Mel through the wringer in a debate that was carried on FL NBC stations in 2004.  He'll pick on those who aren't really capable of fighting back out of general principles.

    Tweety, OTOH, veers all over the place unless they remember to keep him on his meds.  It's obvious that he's a few cards shy of a deck, and sometimes he seems to be an entire suit shy.  He doesn't carry the same gravitas as Timmy.

    I also believe in Rove selling Welch on the massive profits to be enjoyed from telecom dereg.  It's really scary to think of the power that Welch could wield in his own self-interest.

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

    by RFK Lives on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:19:55 PM PDT

  •  This seriously pisses me off (3+ / 0-)
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    I was cursing under my breath the entire time I was reading this diary. I don't know why I didn't put two and two together before and realize this was going on. It makes perfect sense, you know. I used to like Tim Russert and loved watching his election coverage, but he's turned into another Bush zombie over the years. I guess everybody's got their price for drinking the kool-aid.
    Now I am definitely glad I didn't buy Jack Welch's book, that farging icehole!
    Great diary, BTW. Recommended.

  •  Thanks for sharing--great read-- (1+ / 0-)
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    and it makes "Network" look, well, entirely true, hell, pretty tame comparativley--even the killings, given what Bush has done since he's ascended the throne.

    YearlyKos is gonna ROCK.

    by wvillmike on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:36:24 PM PDT

  •  NBC changes Bush perch story (2+ / 0-)
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    At 2:36 PM, on Hardball, under the video of Joe Wilson on a panel on Iraq intelligence, comes the following scroll:

    "German Reporter: President Bush said the 'Best moment' of his Presidency was 'when I caught a seven-and-a-half pound large mouth bass on my lake'"

    "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.

    by bewert on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:39:08 PM PDT

  •  EFD (4+ / 0-)
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    Excellent Fucking Diary.

    I remember saying to some skeptics about how bad things were going to get back in 2002. I remember pointing out to anyone who would listen that GE owns NBC/MSNBC and that it was in their interest to make sure Bush and republicans owned all three houses so that GE could loot the American Treasury and wreck the country.

    And now we have the details of the inner workings before us. And the folks who thought I was a nut back then are now part of the 69 percent who have buyers remorse.

    And I, the ex-wife who didn't cross her legs for her husband and had three children instead of aborting them and now needs the help of her government so her kids can get higher education will take great pleasure when the Dems take back the houses and get supoenae power and crucify all of these thieves.

    But I'm telling you, the biggest shock of what this administration has actually done to America has not been revealed yet. But it will. And we will all be in shock and awe before we try them all for treason.

    "For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted" -8.13/-7.03

    by donailin on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:43:10 PM PDT

    •  About your comment (2+ / 0-)
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      And I, the ex-wife who didn't cross her legs for her husband and had three children instead of aborting them and now needs the help of her government so her kids can get higher education will take great pleasure when the Dems take back the houses and get supoenae power and crucify all of these thieves.

      OT, but it is simply amazing to me that people like Welch would have the audacity to classify the non-powerful as "parasites."  Your kids in college does a net benefit to society, hands down.  Defense contractors installing corrupt officials to instigate bloody worldwide conflict and start unnecessary and resource-draining bloodshed does us a net harm.  Who's the parasite?  Seems like Welch and his ilk feed more off of you and I than a low-interest college loan.

  •  OMG, the pieces of the puzzle are fitting (5+ / 0-)


    The puzzle of how the worst President (31% approval today) in the history of the USA came to be in the WH.

    The mystery of how it came to be that the Florida recount was stopped and an incompetent stole the election with the help of the Supreme Court. And where was the press?

    The good press Bush received all through that election vs the bad press Gore received when by all non-partisan appearances Gore was more qualified.

    As I read the diary, memories kept flooding through my mind. That suck-up interview of Bush by Russert in the White House. Most of all I remember Chris Matthews actually salivating and gushing over Bush in pilot's costume on the aircraft carrier. "Wasn't he something?!!! Wasn't he great?!!!" he slobbered.

    This above all: to thine own self be true...-WS

    by Agathena on Mon May 08, 2006 at 02:47:20 PM PDT

  •  Rove's Bitch (0+ / 0-)

    They are all Rove's bitches. He controls the purse strings.

    inspire change...don't back down

    by missliberties on Mon May 08, 2006 at 03:30:49 PM PDT

  •  Number 3 CIA guy resigns!!! (0+ / 0-)

    WTF is going on????

    sorry read about on  raw story!

    If they hate us for our freedom, they must really love us now! - MQAblog

    by FakeNews on Mon May 08, 2006 at 03:45:59 PM PDT

  •  thank you for this important diary (0+ / 0-)

    Highly Recommended

    "A child miseducated is a child lost" John F. Kennedy

    by Pam from Calif on Mon May 08, 2006 at 03:48:32 PM PDT

  •  brian williams wuvs rove, too (0+ / 0-)

    Shortly after it was announced that he would succeed Brokaw, NBC's Brian Williams appeared on Heil Hannity's radio show. They yukked it up like a couple of old pals, particularly when Williams effusively praised Rush Limbaugh.

  •  Media musings (0+ / 0-)

    t's not hard to imagine that some years ago some media conglomerate heads (like Murdoch, Welch)  were the ones to approach the Pubs to work out a 'dea'l ('we will shill for you if you pass legislation allowing conglomerates to own as many media outlets as we like).

    That is to say - "I scratch your back, you scratch mine"

    It's pretty 'interesting' too that so many cable outlets were allowed to establish themselves in many areas as monopolies (such as the case has been in New York City).

    In any case, considering how blatent their bias is to the Pubs, I have to wonder if the Corporate Media heads  did not 'play' Bill Clinton into thinking they would play ball for him - considering this anti-monopoly law (or whatever its called) was passed under his watch.

    But they sure 'turned on' Al Gore during the '00 campaign, didin't they?

    In any case - I wonder if these conglomerate owners feel indifferent to all the death and destruction for which they are indirectly responsible or if they feel proud?

  •  Dave Letterman (1+ / 0-)
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    used to really mess with GE when he was on NBC.  He hated them dissed them on air every nite.  

    Corporate government...didn't Musolini have a word for that?

    Great diary.  It really made me nauseous.  But in a good, enlightening way.

    These are the times that try men's souls. Thomas Paine

    by x on Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:06:57 PM PDT

  •  In 2004, GE was 6th largest media conglomerate (2+ / 0-)
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    SarahLee, Blue Generalist

    Below is info about the "big five" from the expert, Ben Bagdikian. His book The New Media Monopoly has been updated and was published in its seventh edition in 2004. It was first published in 1983, and one of my professors insisted I read it. I thought those of you want to do more research might be interested.

    Here's a snip from Bagdikian's home page:

    Five huge corporations — Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch's News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany, and Viacom (formerly CBS) — own most of the newspapers, magazines, books, radio and TV stations, and movie studios of the United States.

    These Big Five (with General Electric's NBC a close sixth) do not manufacture automobiles, or clothing, or nuts and bolts. They manufacture politics and social values. The media conglomerates have been a major force in creating conservative and far right politics in the country. They have almost single-handedly as a group, in their radio and television dominance, produced a coarse and vulgar culture that celebrates the most demeaning characteristics in the human psyche — greed, deceit, and cheating as a legitimate way to win (as in the various "reality" shows).

    You can read excerpts here. A snip:

    By 2003, five men controlled all these old media once run by the 50 corporations of 20 years earlier. These five, owners of additional digital corporations, could fit in a generous phone booth. Granted, it would be a tight fit and it would be filled with some tensions.

    There are comments about his work here. A snip from someone familiar:

    "No book on the media has proved as influential to our understanding of the dangers of corporate consolidation to democracy and the marketplace of ideas; this new edition builds on those works and surpasses them."
    -Eric Alterman, author of What Liberal Media?

    You can buy his book at your favorite online bookseller if you can't find enough to read online.

  •  omg Noam Chomsky !! (0+ / 0-)

    Oh you just made a huge boo boo. No one in the "liberal media" is allowed to discuss Noam Chomsky!!

  •  Katie Couric has a $40 million contract (0+ / 0-)

    When did journalist start to have multimillion contracts?  

    Stop Corporate Influence; buy DEMOCRACY BONDS!!!

    by timber on Mon May 08, 2006 at 04:53:27 PM PDT

    •  When, we the public... (1+ / 0-)
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      began to treat pretty/handsome little dingbat girl and boy news readers as larger than life important persons.  When (if) she raises CBS Evening News ratings, more revenue comes in, the bottom line grows and her next contract will probably be for $100M.  Remember productivity is measured in dollars produced by a given employee or group of employees...if Katie raises the revenue...she will reap the rewards...just like baseball, football, basketball stars; the head coach syndrome, etc.

      Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

      by TheRef on Mon May 08, 2006 at 05:38:07 PM PDT

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    •  Couric leaves NBC for CBS (0+ / 0-)

      You know, so much of this is groupthink, and as hink commented above, these guys could be obeying Welch without realizing it.

      I wonder if Couric will get to CBS and change a little. Bob Schiffer (sp?) has been pretty darn good, and 60 minutes does some hard-hitting stuff.

  •  Lol (1+ / 0-)
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    I was nodding right along until someone put "Ayn Rand" and "philosopher" in the same sentence together.

  •  Ah, KKKarl, something wicked this way comes. (0+ / 0-)

    He is simply too savvy and too slick and I fear he's got his fingers in too many pies to allow Patrick Fitzgerald his day in court.  Turdblossom Rove fixed every major news organization the same exact way he fixed NBC, while fixing the Diebold fraud machines to steal the second election.  He, alone, should be tried and prosecuted for high treason.  He understands too well the power of the image and how to control that image through the press.  And he has, until now, succeeded.  But with the blogs rising and Bu$hCo's polls dropping, the bought-and-sold press is learning they can't fool all of the people all of the time.  Bu$hCo's beginning to rot all over and the stench has reached the people, despite KKKarl's spraying tons of perfume all over him.  Beware as the next few months turn into an all-out assault on Democrats threatening to impeach our president!  That will be the Rovian press mantra and we must shoot it down at every turn, praying daily for KKKarl's frogmarch.

  •  While I have great sympathy for the views... (0+ / 0-)

    expressed in this Diary, the Party of facts and truth, the Democratic Party, cannot stoop to Swift Boat tactics...slanting the facts or arguing without the benefit of facts in our desire to slay the villianous, other side.

    Much of the info cited rings true.  However, I suspect that much that "rings true" could not be corroboerated by other sources.

    Much of what David Podvin and Carolyn Kay write in their original piece ( is good, but I note that it is not footnoted, sources of facts (generally) are not identified.  Speculation, insinuation, innuendo, wishful thinking seems to be their stock-in-trade.  

    It provides substantial grist for the mill.  It (as condensed into this Diary) has generated many excellent and enlightening  "comments", but it would be dangerous to  believe that there is a vast "Welch" inspired conspiracy that is controling the Media and holding the progressive movement down.  I rather believe that apathetic Americans are the actual villians in this Play.

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    by TheRef on Mon May 08, 2006 at 06:42:19 PM PDT

  •  What a poweeful diary! This explains NBC/MsGOP (2+ / 0-)
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    totally. I think we have all seen and heard the last 6 years and with outrage about the antics of Russert, Matthews and Couric. That they have taken off on anything Democratic with the excitement of a vampire killer, after bats. They have bashed and KISSED RNC ASSES, over and over.

    I think we have questioned what is going on with the doublemint twins Russ and Chris and why they have gone Bush ga, ga. This piece nails why they have totally sold out, why Russert was up Scooter Libby's ass and was his bitch and alibi. They were bribed by that adultering, lying and stealing Jack Welch. This confirms our worst fears about why the media has grown lazy and worthless. THEY ARE BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.

    This is unreal, frightening and almost chilling to the point that my Communications Degree and all that bullshit they told about being ethical and not selling your soul is utter bullshit. Russert and Matthews should have stepped down, rather than be sold off to Welch and not working for the American people. I have stopped supporting either of those men, that network and will not ever watch Katie Couric lie at CBS.

    "These guys are biggest bunch of lying crooks I have ever seen" John Kerry

    by alnc on Mon May 08, 2006 at 08:35:28 PM PDT

  •  Amazing (0+ / 0-)

    Should be preserved as a tale for our children's children, so they are aware of how far things can fall apart

  •  Reminder... (0+ / 0-)

    Call your congress members about preserving net neutrality.

    Keep the American Dream alive.

    Can we wait even a SECOND longer? SEE GRAPHIC...

    by STOP George on Mon May 08, 2006 at 09:39:16 PM PDT

  •  Comparison (0+ / 0-)

    This is one of the best diaries I have ever read here. Great piece of intellectual history, which really doesn't require sourcing. All it needs is a counter argument, which has been tried. And failed IMHO.

    On the HBO series OZ, there was a character who became a prison bitch. He was Tobias Beecher, played by Lee Tergerson. Here is the url of the scene:

    Interestingly enough, Tergerson looks a lot like Time Russert would were he good looking. Maybe someone with photo shop knowlege can work with this.

  •  Fitzgerald (1+ / 0-)
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    is Superman. Please save us!

  •  DAMN FINE DIARY (1+ / 0-)
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       This diary was definitely an eye opener!  I have realized on intuition for years since I did not have this kind of inside look at the scandal that is called GE-NBC-MSNBC. I damn well knew that Nbc, starting with Brokaw had sold their soul to the Republican devil. This was very clear in the 2004 election as Republican talking points dominated the presidential campaign. Hell, one only has to look at how Clinton was crucified in the press to realize the crime the media has committed on the American public for profits. No wonder the democrats have gotten stingy coverage over the years. And if they do come on television, they are reamed a new one by the likes of bulldog face Russert.  Russert, Mathews, Tucker , Oreily are all corporate whores of the worse kind. I can't believe the FCC does not fine these bastards for obscenity. Outright lying in the style of tabloids should be a moral outrage.
    Cbs was fined for a tit shot of Janet Jackson, and yet these bastards continue to broadcast with impunity. But, the tide is turning as the people begin to awaken to the criminal monstrosity in their midst. Of course the Russerts of television will end up with egg on their face as their role as Corporate and Republican puppets and mouthpieces becomes evident. I wish we could impeach them along with Bush and the corrupt politicians that dominate our politics and national discourse. These crooks that are called talk show hosts have blood on their hands as well as they continue to carry water for the Republicans.
    I saw the Russert Pelosi interview and I was outraged. Russert, the prick, was about as hostile towards Pelosi as Libby and Rove were to Plame. Funny how these repug talking heads are mysogonists.  Russert , of course he is scared, because he is not out of the woods yet, when it comes to being a witness for the "Libby's scandal trial."
       COLBERT WAS RIGHT, when he described Bush as believing on Wednesday the same as he had believed on Monday , no matter what happened on Tuesday. This applies as well to Russert. As the republican party begins to implode, he is still pushing hard the talking points that have been emailed to him from the RNC. Russert is about as thick headed and stubborn as Bush is. How will he change his tune when the democrats come into power and who will he have on his show then? Ann Coulter?

  •  Good article but.... (0+ / 0-)

    If all this is true, what is Keith Olbermann doing at MSNBC?

  •  I know. (0+ / 0-)

    a bottle of KY jelly and being told to pick up the soap.

    a splendid time is guaranteed for all

    by KBueno on Tue May 09, 2006 at 07:45:43 AM PDT

  •  Jack Welch is an Asshat (0+ / 0-)

    OK, so Jack Welch (retired or not) owns Tim Russert & Chris Matthews, whether by intimidation or bribery. Won't be the first time that something like that ever happened. Based on what I view on the NBC channels every day, Welch's tactics appear to be exceptionally effective. One would think that (especially given Claire Shipman's experience) everyone at NBC would be totally cowed. But, that is not true.

    Keith Olbermann either has the goods on the members of the GE executive suite, or he is the exception which proves the rule. He is the only network newsperson I will watch. The rest (especially the NBC crew) are just a bunch of suckups.

    The friend of my enemy is my enemy. Dump Chafee in '06.

    by jayatRI on Tue May 09, 2006 at 12:30:03 PM PDT

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