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It's a deliberately provocative title, I know, but hey, at least I toned it down from my previous DK post.  

But it's a serious question, and I honestly am curious what people think.  Aside from the extremely noticable exception of DefCon, the larger progressive groups have been virtually AWOL on this issue. For that matter, so have the progressive blogs.   And as a result, although 75% of America supports stem cell research, the 25% who oppose it are the ones being heard on Capitol Hill.  

Here's why I hope this will change -- and why I hope all of us as progressives, progressive groups, and progressive blogs will get off our collective ass and start doing something THIS WEEK...  (go to, steal any content you want, and use it)

HR 810 is the single most important piece of Federal stem cell legislation in years.  It would rescind President Bush's draconian restrictions on funding.  Miraculously, it passed in the House last year, and as Frist announced last week, the Senate will finally vote on it too.   President Bush has threatened to veto it.   Here are some key points:

1) Though no time is set, credible sources in the Senate say this could be  the  week for a vote.  July 12th is the date that keep popping up.

2) The opposition (Focus on the Family, etc.) is pounding the Senators to vote against this.  They are generating far, far more grassroots outreach than the pro-stem cell side.  The pro stem side has been led by the patient advocacy groups.  Check out the Alexa ranking for "" vs. any of the largest patient groups, and you'll get a sense for what we're up against.   They are out-grassroots-ing us big time, and multiple Senators have specifically noted this troubling disparity, and why it makes it "difficult" to support this.  

3) The progressive community has been frankly about 99% AWOL on this issue.  The patient advocates have been doing it alone, and as great as they are, they are simply not built for this kind of fight -- at least not alone.  

Regardless of what you're hearing in the news, a winning vote is by no means a done deal.  60 votes are needed to pass this, and it will be close.   And the way the Senators are getting pounded, this thing is very tenuous.

Now, I know folks are already working on a range of critical issues, but let me make a few arguments why this one should be at least as high priority as any of them:

1) Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, paralysis, etc., etc., etc.:   I've been knee deep in this issue for most of the last year, and even the most cautious researchers are frankly elated by the potential of this research.   Animal tests with embryonic stem cells have already gotten paralyzed rats walking (   With the right funding, we're talking "years" for cures, not decades.    I mention Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and paralysis in particular, because they are among the closest (because cures would likely involve regenerating tissue specifically), but the list is much larger in the long term.

2) Personal:  I got into this because my two-year old nephew was diagnosed with a terminal illness in April of 2005.   Thanks to adult stem cell therapy, the disease (Tay Sachs) has been stabilized, but he will need embryonic stem cell research to fully recover (for the "regenerative" part).  

Of course, that's just one story.  There's a slew more that you can read, at  

3) Political:  If President Bush actually goes ahead and vetoes this, it will be his first veto. It will get a lot of attention, and will put a number of vulnerable Republicans in the extremely awkward position of sustaining his veto, or publicly breaking with their president.  There are already a number of serious groups starting to prepare ads to run in key districts.    

If you are leading one of these groups -- please do something.  If you are a part of one of them -- please tell your leaders to do something.  If you have a blog, please write about it.  Yada, yada, yada, just do something.   Seriously, this deserves at least 1/10 the attention spent on net neutrality, the Lieberman-Lamont campaign, etc., etc., etc.

I know I might sound a bit cranky on this, but bear with me -- I just was at a conference where people who were literally paralyzed managed to get across the country to fight for this cause.   If they can get off their asses -- surely we can too.  

Need more motivation?  Here are a few of the folks you could be helping (more stories at

1)  "My now 9-year-old son was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes, a chronic, incurable disease, when he was only 7. Because his pancreas no longer works at all, he must poke his finger for blood sugar tests around 10 times every day..." for full story

2)  "Sam was diagnosed on January 3rd 2003, at the age of 2 1/2 years old. He was in severe DKA, and we did not know if he would live through the night. That was the beggining to our horror story. Sam is now almost 5 and his sugar levels are still very unstable. He has to have 3 shots a day, and around 10 finger pokes. His fingers are so callused and scared, no child should have to go through so much pain on a daily basis. But inspite of everything he goes through, he is the best natured and sweetest little boy you will ever know..." for full story

3)  "Being paralized is the hardest obstacle that i will ever have to face in my life. I am suffering from spinal cord injury from my waist down, this happened to be because someone decided to shot me after taking my money. I was robed and then shot about three months ago. I had to undergo surgery for them to remove the bullet, then i had to stay at a rehab center for about a month so i can adjust to being paralized. I used to think my life was bad before but after all this i feel as though my life was a peice of cake before. I am 20 years old and the doctors tell me that i will never walk again..." for full story

4)  "My family is affected by Huntington's Disease, which is a genetic hereditary neurological disorder with no known cure. The disease has been described as having the physical symptoms of Parkinsons and mental affects of Alzheimer's. Research led to the discovery of the Huntington's Disease gene in 1993. The gene is inherited at birth, but the symptoms do not usually develop until the ages of 25 and 50. The disease causes brain cell death in the areas affecting motor movement and cognitive ability.  Two of my three aunts have tested positive and are now in the middle stages of the disease. They find it difficult to walk, talk, swallow, follow simple instructions..." for full story

5)  "In 1993 my father, Juan, had a devastating stroke. It resulted in 80% of his cerebellum being destroyed. After 6 months in a coma my father awoke to his new fate.  Not being able to walk, go to the restroom by himself, cook, shave, brush his own teeth, or even be able to communicate verbally with his own..." for full story  

Originally posted to Hlinko on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 02:16 PM PDT.


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  •  Because Progressives are bastards... (2+ / 0-)
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    The Termite, Elise

    ...and we just can't seem to stop beating our wives, either (I know I'm not a Progressive, but the line doesn't work otherwise).

    The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

    by Jay Elias on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 02:23:24 PM PDT

  •  I think it's a bandwidth question... (8+ / 0-)

    ...but I agree with you that the Dems' general disengagement on the topic is mysterious and frustrating.  Any human being with two brain cells to rub together can be easily dissuaded of any conflation with the abortion issue, and we should make the religious right PAY for gumming up science that saves lives.

    "That rug really tied the room together." (-4.88, -5.03)

    by The Termite on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 02:24:28 PM PDT

  •  AWOL (5+ / 0-)
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    wader, Los Diablo, Elise, docangel, grayscale

    I think this is an important issue and I can answer for you why it is not receiving much attention.

    First, last legislative action was over a year ago.

    Second, it has over 200 co-sponsors, Specter offered a Senate version last February which has 41 co-sponsors, and I find it pretty unlikely that this would not pass easily.

    But by all means, write your Senators and let them know you want them to co-sponsor or support it or whatever they can do.

    We're all just monkeys burning in hell.

    by smokeymonkey on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 02:25:55 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for lighting the fire...again... (7+ / 0-)

    I've sent this along to everyone I know...and I've asked them all to do the at this point, I don't know what else I can do but pimp your diaries here and force people to come and take some action on this issue.

    hrm...maybe I'll email DarkSyde and ask him to front page this?

    If the vote is rumored to be soon...maybe he'll do, he's the science man.

    I'll do that...and I'll continue to pimp.

    Keep up the good work...and I hope you're crossposting this everywhere!

  •  Tell 'em, John! (8+ / 0-)

    According to Denver Post, Rove is affirming that Bush WILL Veto.

    Apparently, no signing statements this time.

    Well. then, Cowboys, just BRING IT ON. Since when has the Will of the People meant a damned thing to you?

    •  'Bush vetoes cure for Alzheimer's'? (1+ / 0-)
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      Thanks much, highfive.

      It's astonishing to read that this guy is still thinking of using his first veto for this.

      I can't help but wonder -- would he veto a cure for Alzheimer's?  Parkinson's?  Diabetes?  

      Well, nothing it 100%, we can't guarantee cures, but there's no doubt that embryonic stem cell research offers a good chance.  

      If that chance is even 1%, how in the world could he justify a veto?  (personally, I believe it's a hell of a lot higher, but... you get the point).

  •  This mystifies me too (3+ / 0-)
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    tlh lib, Elise, docangel

    I saw Dorgin on the Senate floor preparing for the debate.  He said if his info is correct they will discuss it next week and if not then the next.  His point was to affirm that they were talking about stem cells already existing in fertility clinics.  Not "farming" embryos as Rove would like to fame it.  The last sentence is my words.

    Stem cell research needs to pass for just plan moral reasons and the right needs to weigh in on where they stand.  

    As far as flip flops goes....Bush on this topic has made the mother of all flip flops in one day.  Up to 9:00 p.m. on some random day it's alright after that it's immoral and not worth the hope of untold suffering.

    Thank you for this diary.  I hope you get a good response.

  •  Stem Cell Research (0+ / 0-)

    Are we supposed to take a political stand on Stem cell research? It is a losing issue for the Left.

    As has been the norm in all uncivilized societies, the ruling authority marries the religious authorities to consolidate power while science, for obvious reasons, has always been viewed as the enemy of religion and therefore the enemy of the ruling authority. That has been the case a long time before it was heresy to claim that the Earth was not at the centre of the universe.

    Science is the Genie out of the bottle and Stem cell research will happen and prosper irrespective of what the religious and the political authorities do to stop it. Even a complete and universal ban, enforced under penalty of death, will delay the research for no more than one generation.

    At this still unenlightened stage of human development, stem cell research, like religion, remains as a political tool but only for the Right.

    •  I disagree (2+ / 0-)
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      davidkc, noweasels

      I don't think they'll win on this one.  There are too many families that have suffered too much right and left.

    •  Here's what I do (2+ / 0-)
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      tlh lib, highfive

      Every time I see one of those collection jars for coins in a convenience store for a child with muscular dystrophy,cystic fibrosis etc I take out my felt tip and write on it:

      Vote Universal Health Care
      Vote stem cell research

      so these children don't have to suffer

      A mini bumper sticker with a picture would work well too to paste on things.

    •  I also disagree (2+ / 0-)
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      tlh lib, bonesy

      Here's one poll showing that embryonic stem cell research is popular with a majority of Americans.

      Most Americans approve of using embryonic stem cells in medical research (although white evangelical Christians and conservatives are more likely to oppose it), and support for it has grown since last year.

    •  Well, that's nice. (4+ / 0-)
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      Hlinko, wader, davidkc, bonesy

      Stem cell research will happen and prosper irrespective of what the religious and the political authorities do to stop it. Even a complete and universal ban, enforced under penalty of death, will delay the research for no more than one generation.

      So my paralyzed husband can go and screw himself while you toss off clever comments and dismiss this as a losing issue for left.

      Oh but wait, I forgot--he's paralyzed, so he's not going to be screwing himself or anybody else real soon.  Not for another generation, because it's a losing issue for the "Left".  You don't know from losing.

      "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." Dick Cheney

      by 2kate2 on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 09:02:32 PM PDT

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      •  Take a deep breath and let it out slowly. (0+ / 0-)

        Sorry about your husband Life must be really tough and I hope you both find the strength to manage.

        I did receive a few replies like yours (but nowhere as venomous) to my comment but did not feel the desperate need to clarify my post. I feel I owe you further clarification. ESL is a bitch so bear with me.

        All I meant was that the Left cannot use Stem cell research as a political weapon for the same reason that the Left cannot use religion and abortion as political weapons. The Right has successfully monopolized religion as their platform because they cater to the one and only majority religion in America. Unfortunately stem cell research and abortion will also be portrayed as religious issues, and therefore their issues. The Right can and will campaign on these issues because, let’s face it, they cannot run on their record, can they? Having a monolithic stance on issues paves the way for effective political campaign slogans.

        The Left is for stem cell research, caters to all religions, agnostics, atheists and is largely pro-choice. These stances do not lend themselves to good political campaign slogans and even if they did, the Right still wins the slogan wars directed at a largely Christian base. For everything we can throw at them on any of these subjects, they have a better “Christian” counter point from the Good Book as interpreted by Pat Robertson. The Right has always painted the Left as being anti-God for this very reason.

        To win elections the Democrats have to run on the Republican record of miss-achievements. We owe it to the people and to our Party to bring up issues that the Republicans want to hide – the missteps in Afghanistan and Iraq, corruption, response to Katrina, job and industry losses, staggering deficits as far as the eye can see and a hell of a lot more. All good and powerful election-winning issues that the Right does not have any good answer to.

        I would never take stem cell research, being pro-choice on abortion, or a total separation of church and state out of the Party platform. If I was that stupid, I would be a Republican.

    •  Not a losing issue at all (0+ / 0-)

      I disagree strongly with the notion that stem cell research is a losing issue. The Democrats are attracting moderate Republicans over such issues.  The hard core religious nuts on the right are inflamed.  But middle ground folks have a more open mind.  They want to see medical progress, too.  I think everyone agrees there are limits to what can be done under the heading of humane research.  And, the middle is with us here.  We should move forward with something less restrictive with what we have now.

      Who are the leaners in the Senate?  Who needs to know it matters to people that we go forward?

  •  Our son has Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy, (6+ / 0-)

    He's a fine young man, he's going to be tall, at least over six foot plus,he's going to be eleven this Wed. He loves sports, but will never be able to play sports. His muscles are dieing every day. The heartbreak is tremendous for us and for him. He cries every night because as his life goes on he's getting weaker and weaker. Researchers are working on gene therapy. Mr. President, I ask you this question. Why would anybody oppose or veto passage of HR810? Would you enjoy seeing a son or daughter of yours struggling to crawl, get up off the floor, walk,or go to bathroom? Why stop a possible cure for any progressive life ending disease? Oh that's right, you only care for you and yours.

    •  This is what I mean (2+ / 0-)
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      docangel, bonesy

      who could be so heartless.  My heart goes out to you!

    •  No he worships the stem cells and the embryos (1+ / 0-)
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      children are of no concern  to him. They are in god's hands after all. It is god's will.  Poooey.

    •  I am praying for your family (2+ / 0-)
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      wader, Pam from Calif

      I missed this diary today because I was at work.  My niece has brittle juvenile diabetes (diagnosed at age 16 months - she is now 15).  I want these creeps to explain, in person, to your son and my niece why the "life" of an embryo that will never have one and whose creators donated it so that other children could be saved, is more valuable that the health and well being of your son and my niece.  I put up a separate diary tonight after I heard that Rove said Bush would veto this bill.  They are heartless.  Just heartless. But my heart is with you and I am profoundly moved by your comment.

      1-20-09 the darkness ends

      by noweasels on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 09:05:42 PM PDT

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      •  Thankyou for your kindness (2+ / 0-)
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        Pam from Calif, noweasels

        I also read your diary,and my thoughts and prays are with you and your niece. We received guardanship of our grandson,his twin sister and older brother when the twins were 2 weeks old, older brother was 13mos.old. We adopted them three years later. They have been a God sent to us. So, I'm paternal grandma, and momma of these angels. Ex-daughter in law had three brothers who passed away,at 13,18,and 22yrs.of Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy. You are so right,"I want these creeps to explain, in person, to your son and my niece why the "life" of an embryo that will never have one and whose creators donated it so that other children could be saved, is more valuable that the health and well being of your son and my niece."Thankyou for replying to my post. When you love someone as much as we love our son, you need as much support as you can get to hold you up. Thanks again, and yes, "They are heartless"
        ps:Our son's Heart Specialist just started him on heart medication, his heart needs some help, not working right,after all it's a muscle. Thanks again, for caring.I needed to talk to someone tonight, thanks again.

  •  Nose cells help rats (1+ / 0-)
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    At least ten operations will be carried out to test in humans a technique pioneered in animals by the neuroscientist Geoffrey Raisman, who heads the spinal repair unit of University College, London. He discovered 20 years ago that cells from the lining of the nose constantly regenerate themselves. Professor Raisman's team believes that if those cells were implanted at the site of the damage they would build a bridge across the break, allowing the nerve fibres to knit back together
    Studies in animals have established that the cell implants can restore nerve functions. Rats with severed nerves have regained functions of a forepaw.

    •  The Journal of Neurology (2+ / 0-)
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      Hlinko, bonesy

      in its July issue had an article about a group of scientists at Johns Hopkins who had CURED paralysis in rats with embryonic stem cell research.  There is so much promise in this research, and this is the country that had lead the world on this issue.  Shame on the President for denying our country the chance to be first in medical research and first in finding cures for horrifying diseases.  Shame.

      1-20-09 the darkness ends

      by noweasels on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 09:08:26 PM PDT

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  •  Why the nose is unique (1+ / 0-)
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    What sort of cells are going to be used to try to repair nerve damage?

    Cells from the nose. The all-important discovery made in 1985 showed that in one section of the nervous system, a part of the nasal cavity concerned with smell, nerve fibres are in constant growth - even in adulthood. Though people with a bad cold may lose their sense of smell, it does come back.

    The nasal cells have the added advantage of belonging to the patient, so there is no risk of their being rejected.

    What do the cells do when transplanted into the spinal cord of rats?

    They mend the break in the pathway that nerve fibres need to take if they are to rejoin. When a nerve is severed, it tries to regrow, but the pathway has been disrupted. The transplanted cells have the capacity to integrate with the pathway cells, laying a "bridge" across the gap and enabling the nerve fibres to reconnect.

    What improvements were shown in the animals?

    The transplants enabled animals that had been paralysed to reach with a paw and to climb. They also restored the ability to breathe.

  •  here you go (1+ / 0-)
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    maybe it's cause we're mostly interested in issues that divide democrats.

    what's there to talk about if susan sarandon and hillary clinton agree on it??

    "if you believe in nothing, honey, it believes in you/ for god's sake don't waste any faith on me." - Robyn Hitchcock.

    by BiminiCat on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 09:01:15 PM PDT

    •  Bejebus -- we even have some REPUBLICANS (0+ / 0-)

      on this.  Why can't we get this done?  

      1-20-09 the darkness ends

      by noweasels on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 09:12:01 PM PDT

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      •  The problem is... (0+ / 0-)

        75% of the population agrees with us, but the other 25% is generating a hell of a lot more grassroots outreach to Congress.  

        Remember, they've got the forces of the anti-abortion movement, and those are powerful forces.   In theory, we have the forces of the progressive blogosphere -- unfortunately, only "in theory" however, since there's almost no actual ACTION on our side.

        It's got bipartisan support, big time.  But one small sliver of the right wing is holding it up.  

        Hopefully, the progressive and mainstream political movements alike will stop sitting on the fence, and actually do something to help.

  •  Im not sure if this has anything to do with it (0+ / 0-)

    or not, but theres a movement on the left that is opposed to stem cell research as well. They think its exploiting women, and bio-tech capitalism, and messing with nature, etc.... I know one of the guys that advised Bush on the issue was on the far-left. It wasnt Jeremy Rifkin I dont think, but somebody that has a simlar 'we shouldnt mess with nature', environmental,... philosophy.

    •  What movement are you talking about? (0+ / 0-)

      Just asking.  I am very involved with this issue and am unaware of any such movement on the LEFT.  Pls. advise soonest.

      1-20-09 the darkness ends

      by noweasels on Mon Jul 10, 2006 at 09:13:04 PM PDT

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      •  I didnt look very hard, but here's a general (1+ / 0-)
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        overview of the divide on the left on this issue:

        I have read alot more about this over the last few years on other blogs and in articles about how some people on the right and left are finding they have more in common on this issue than they do with people that are supposedly of their same political philosophy/party.

        I would sum it up as Libertarians and Liberals joining together against Leftists and Conservatives.

        I couldnt find the name of the guy that advised Bush. But Bush did something tricky, he found advisors on the left and right that opposed stem cell research as his advisors on the issue. That made it appear that he was being bi-partisan, when in fact both sort of shared the same luddite philosophy.

      •  Heres another link that deals specifically with (0+ / 0-)

        opposition on the left to embryonic stem cell research:

        Thats the best I can do without doing an in-depth search, and you can do that yourself, so Ill just leave it to you to decide if this is enough info or not. Hope that helps.

  •  Tay-Sachs (0+ / 0-)

    Tay-Sachs disease is a fatal genetic lipid storage disorder in which harmful quantities of a fatty substance called ganglioside GM2 build up in tissues and nerve cells in the brain. The condition is caused by insufficient activity of an enzyme called beta-hexosaminidase A that catalyzes the biodegradation of acidic fatty materials known as gangliosides. Gangliosides are made and biodegraded rapidly in early life as the brain develops.

    Infants with Tay-Sachs disease appear to develop normally for the first few months of life. Then, as nerve cells become distended with fatty material, a relentless deterioration of mental and physical abilities occurs. The child becomes blind, deaf, and unable to swallow. Muscles begin to atrophy and paralysis sets in. Other neurological symptoms include dementia, seizures, and an increased startle reflex to noise.

    Inherited defects in the lysosomal degradation pathway of glycosphingolipids (GSLs) result in a group of autosomal recessive disorders predominantly characterized by severe neurodegeneration and death in infancy or childhood. In both Tay-Sachs (MIM#272800) and Sandhoff (MIM#268800) disease massive accumulation of GM2 ganglioside is seen in cells--particularly neurons--where its rate of synthesis is the highest. GM1 gangliosidosis (MIM#230500) and Gaucher disease type 2 (MIM#230900) result in GM1 ganglioside and glucosylceramide storage respectively. Despite our understanding of the enzyme deficiencies in each of the GSL storage disorders, very little is understood about the molecular pathogenesis of neurodegeneration. No effective therapies have emerged that can successfully preserve CNS function.

  •  To cure Tay-Sachs (0+ / 0-)

    you ought to get the deficient enzyme in the existing cells.

    If the existing cells are not saved, the neurons that make the child a unique person will die.

    You should either attach a cell removable leader to man-made copies of the enzyme or put something like RNA in a coating protein able to enter neurons.

  •  Incurable? (0+ / 0-)
    1.  "My now 9-year-old son was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes, a chronic, incurable disease, when he was only 7. Because his pancreas no longer works at all, he must poke his finger for blood sugar tests around 10 times every day..."

    A pancreas transplant may be recommended for people with pancreatic disease, especially if they have type 1 diabetes and poor kidney function.

  •  More pain and heartbreak (0+ / 0-)

    brought to you by the Heartbreak kid, if HR 810, passes and Bush vetoes it. I know this man is evil down to the core of his being. I want a cure found for our son, this guy, doesn't know the first thing about love, family values, Christianity, forgiveness, and most important, helping your fellow man. He's a sheep in wolves clothing, and if he doesn't get impeached for all the crimes he has already committed, he should get impeached if HR 810 comes to him and he vetoes it.

  •  Bush Stem Cell Veto Threat is Dems' Opportunity (1+ / 0-)
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    Bush's 2006 base-baiting, red meat strategy could well backfire when it comes to stem cell research.  Unlike other aspects of the "fags, flags and fetuses" program contained in the Republicans' so called "American Values Agenda," stem cell research bans don't enjoy much support among either the conservative chattering classes or Americans overall.

    For more on why Bush's veto could be just what the doctor ordered for Democrats, see:
    "Bush Stem Cell Veto Threat is Dems' Opportunity."

  •  If the Religious Reich (0+ / 0-)

    doesn't like stem cell research, they have every right to refuse any treatment that is developed through that research -- so if a cure is found for Parkinson's, they can decline that cure.

    But they should not have the right to tell the rest of us what treatments we can or cannot receive, or stop research that can lead to future treatments. Jehovah's Witnesses will not receive blood transfusions...yet they don't tell the rest of us we can't either.

    While we argue over these matters, research continues in England, in South Korea, and in other places...and Bush wonders why we're falling behind scientifically. He wants to put more math and science teachers in the schools...why doesn't he try telling his buddies in the Religious Reich to stop meddling in "science" education?

    Here endeth the rant...

  •  thanks for lighting a fire under my ass, John. (1+ / 0-)
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    If you're subscribed to the ActForChange mailing list, you'll get an alert in your box tomorrow AM.

    Or, you can go straight to the action here:

    Tell the Senate to Support Stem Cell Research

  •  Call your Senator today, NOW... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...(hell, call Sen. Frist) and urge them to support HR 810. It's easy:

    1. Visit this page.

    2. Look up your Senator's phone number, fax, and/or email address.
    3. Contact them today, and tell them this: "I strongly urge you to support HR 810 and support the funding of stem cell research."

    It's that simple. Please do it NOW, before you get another email, or read another post, or get another cup of coffee.

    Please do it NOW, before it's too late and we lose this crucial vote in the Senate.

    Please support stem cell research and the promise it holds for millions of suffering people.


  •  Senate Bill #? (0+ / 0-)

    I'll call my Senators. Does anyone know the Senate Bill #?

    •  S.471... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...but it's a little complicated; we want to say "pass a bill identical to H.R.810, that is, no amendments to S.471 as currently written."

      If they amend it in any way, it'll have to go to conference committee, where it can be mucked with no end....if it passes as-is, it goes straight to Bush's desk.

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