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I have to wonder what goes on in the mind of a young man that proclaims, from one side of his mouth, to support democratic ideals, and from the other says all he can to quash them.

I am a delegate to the Nebraska State Central Committee and a county chair. Since I became active in the party I gradually became aware of several things that were being done that were in direct violation of our party's Constitution and Bylaws. I joined with a few others whose goal was to reform the party and insist that it abide by the rules our supreme governing body, the State Convention, had laid out for us.

I will admit that my diplomatic skills rival those of U.N. Ambassador, John Bolton, I am an old curmudgeon by nature, but I believe my goals are loftier.

Evidently my arrows have begun to hit a bit too close to the root of the NDP's problems, as this morning I found that the President of the Nebraska Young Democrats has basically called for my head. I believe he is merely serving as a mouthpiece for the NDP State Chair, Steve Achelpohl . . . but that's just an assumption based on an abundance of coincidence.

I happen to believe that the NDP should follow the guidelines set forth in its own documents, its Constitution and Bylaws and its Platform. I also believe that democracy is best practiced in the light of day and not behind closed doors with everything being held Top Secret, even from those who have the fiduciary duty of oversight. The NDP seems to have become a mirror of George W. Bush's administration than one controlled by the people.

Now Mr. Michaelis, the NYD President, would have my head served up on a silver platter because I refuse to continue the status quo that has rendered the NDP so impotent that the only candidate they can dig up to run for the Senate seat that Sen. Chuck Hagel is leaving is a man that until this month was a Republican, one once appointed by George W. Bush to be his "manufacturing czar," Tony Raimondo. We are within a year of the '08 elections and we haven't a single candidate for any of the three Congressional Districts in this state.

I would guess my sin is that of not remaining silent and accepting that Nebraska must remain a red state.

Here is the letter President Michaelis sent to the NDP State Central Committee this morning. Since I am the target of President Michaelis' missive, I believe it my right to reproduce it here.

Fellow members of the State Central Committee-

I hope the following message will not be held against Nebraska Young Democrats. Although I am writing in the interests of Young Democrats and the future of our party, I write only on my own behalf in condemning Brian Osborn as an insult to the office he holds and an embarrassment to the Nebraska Democratic Party.

For the last year, Brian Osborn has ranted incessantly about holding the leadership of the Nebraska Democratic Party accountable. As a County Chair, a delegate to the State Central Committee, and a recent candidate for Second Associate Chair, Osborn is supposed to be a leader himself, and it is long overdue that we hold him accountable to the same standard.

Now, I understand and respect that Democrats are going to have a wide range of responses to Tony Raimondo's changing his party affiliation and likely pursuing the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. Generally, I would not be troubled by Osborn sharing his concerns about Raimondo because it is antithetical to what makes us Democrats that we should be expected to give up our freedoms of thought and speech to serve our party.

What disturbs me, though, is the way Osborn has flaunted and ABUSED the titles he holds to attack and undermine a potential Democratic candidate. Osborn's letter to the editor earlier this month was featured as the first letter by both the Omaha World-Herald and the Lincoln Journal-Star precisely because he lead with his credentials as a Democratic leader then played the part of demagogue by accusing anyone who would support Raimondo of "abandoning the principles that the NDP stands for."[i] The World-Herald went on to feature Osborn in a major news story, relying on the titles he holds within our party as he denounced Raimondo as "opportunistic" AFTER his party switch.[ii] As a Democrat and as an American, Osborn is entitled to his opinions, but he crossed the line by publicly insulting a new Democrat - not to mention a probable Democratic candidate - as a member of our State Central Committee. In my opinion, he also did a great disservice to the Democrats he represents in Phelps County although it's not our place to hold Osborn accountable in that capacity. I only wish Osborn's list of misdeeds ended there, but he has instead spiraled farther and farther out of control over the last several weeks. What is said on this list-serv is said in a secure and private environment between Democratic leaders, so I can make some excuses for tolerating Osborn's more outlandish tirades and accusations in the interests of free speech and self-reflection. Recently, however, Osborn has taken up spreading his diseased and destructive view of the Nebraska Democratic Party in any forum unfortunate enough to provide him a platform. This has extended online to the two most prominent websites in the state for political discussion - the New Nebraska Network and its right-wing counterpart, Leavenworth Street.

It is one thing to suggest on this list-serv that the NDP's Bylaws might speak against Raimondo's receiving the Democratic nomination. It is quite another to do as Osborn has, threatening lawsuits to keep Raimondo off the ballot and possibly disenfranchising the Democratic voters of Nebraska if they were to support Raimondo in the May primary.[iii] Osborn has also publicly suggested impeachment for any NDP leader who would encourage Raimondo to run.[iv] I don't know that I have ever heard anything so ludicrous and ANTI-DEMOCRATIC.

Rather than working FOR a Democratic candidate in whom he could believe, Osborn would tie up resources and steal our attention, making an enemy of one who would be our ally. How does that serve the people of Nebraska or our mission to build a party in which we can all be proud???? Even worse is the IGNORANCE and RECKLESSNESS with which Osborn has written about the Nebraska Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee.[v] In a public forum, Osborn referred to the NDLCC as "a semi-private slush fund," revealing its purpose and attacking the process by which it was established without any concern whatsoever for the liabilities that creates for the Democratic State Senators who have committed themselves to BUILDING THIS PARTY and STRENGTHENING OUR POSITION in the Unicameral.

While complaining about the supposed secrecy surrounding the NDLCC, Osborn revealed precisely why he can't be trusted with any further details - freely divulging our plans and our expenditures where any Republican operative and the Nebraska media CAN AND WILL see them. Considering the dangers to our senators and to our candidates from being perceived as too partisan, Osborn has hurt our cause, owing an apology to every Democrat who serves in the Legislature and those who will hopefully still have the courage to run in 2008. When it gets right down to it, as we have all seen over the course of the last year, Brian Osborn has positioned himself as a roadblock to progress and, in fact, PRIDES HIMSELF on attacking fellow Democrats under a deceitful and self-indulgent banner of false accountability.

Need further proof? Yesterday, in a public forum, Osborn claimed that the money we received from the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee in 2006 was "LAUNDERED through the NDP for the express purpose of reelecting Ben Nelson."[vi] Of course, Osborn has already publicly accused our state chair and our state treasurer of all sorts of financial wrong-doing, but here he's actually alleging that a crime has been committed. This is LIBEL, playing directly into Republicans' hands while shaking the confidence of Nebraska Democrats and making us look like fools before Democratic leaders nationwide.

How much longer are we going to tolerate such buffoonery? Honestly, when does it end? It's gone on throughout 2007 and now shows every sign of getting even worse as we head into the 2008 election. It's gotten to the point that I can't in good conscience recommend that other Young Democrats even get involved on the State Central Committee because it is being held hostage by a tiny minority who persist in old grudges, fighting year-old battles and squabbling over money we don't have rather than looking to the future.

This has to stop. Our party has many problems and has a long ways to go on the path to political relevancy, that we might again challenge the Republican status quo that has seized control of our state. I don't seek to make Brian Osborn a scapegoat for our problems or for our lack of progress, but his continued actions are most definitely a problem that we must address. The Democratic Party has always been home to a few loose cannons, but we can not tolerate those cannons being targeted at our own party, intent on destroying the last remnants of our meager foothold in Nebraska politics.

Osborn has no respect for this party. He is so out-of-control and lost to his imagined crusade against inner party corruption that no one is safe. For most of 2007, he confined his attacks to our state chair, our Executive Committee, and Ben Nelson, our Democratic U.S. Senator. Now, in a public forum, he's attacked the entire SCC as "a flock of sheep" who do nothing but "rubber stamp" the Executive Committee and who are a bunch of head-nodding "fools".[vii] The only thing I can say in Osborn's favor is that he still has not sunk quite so low as his mentor, Tom Dorsch - a cancer on this party who thinks it funny to joke that our State Chair should commit suicide.[viii] We are lucky to be rid of Dorsch from a position of leadership in our party, and it is long past time that we rid ourselves of those who have adopted his same strategy of advancing their agenda by sowing deceit and working to destroy fellow Democrats.

This September, Osborn wanted to censor our State Chair. I say censoring Osborn would be too kind a response after the absolutely inexcusable behavior recorded above. Of course, I prefer to avoid wasting any more of this Committee's time with these silly and distracting back-and-forth battles, but this insanity has to end. 2008 IS AN ELECTION YEAR. Our time is too precious and our purpose too important to be hijacked as it has for most of the last year.

Last week, Maribeth Milner shared what I took to be a heartfelt concern that "NDP leadership is a top - down, autocratic structure." I couldn't disagree more, as the problems I see are far more indicative of disarray and a lack of leadership rather than its being too authoritative.

These are very big differences in how we perceive the current state of the Nebraska Democratic Party, but I trust that they can be reconciled as we move forward in 2008. The same can not be said with Brian Osborn, though - not so long as he persists in this insane scorched earth approach to remaking the Nebraska Democratic Party to his own personal liking.

We are better than this. If this party is to have any hope for its future, it is time to make a choice. There's no denying we have some long-standing failures in terms of oversight and accountability. But, corrections and reforms must be targeted at the future. The 2006 election can not be refought. It's REVENGE that is best served cold, and it's a poor substitute for true accountability. The game of got'cha that has been Osborn's obsession is not moving our party forward and certainly isn't making future successes possible.

I wish I had any faith whatsoever that Osborn had the capacity to change. His record speaks to the contrary. If 2008 is a year for making choices, let us begin by holding Mr. Osborn accountable for abusing his own office and so eagerly bringing the Nebraska Democratic Party into disrepute.

Respectfully submitted, without pleasure or malice, Kyle Michaelis President Nebraska Young Democrats kyle@nebraskayoungdemocrats.org

Brian T. Osborn
Chair - Phelps County Democrats
SCC delegate - LD38

Originally posted to NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:08 AM PST.

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  •  Shoot...I read it... (1+ / 0-)
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    ChapiNation386

    Now I have to go off and use the googles to get some background to put this into some sort of context.

    Sounds like Nebraska has some problems.

  •  One problem with this... (5+ / 0-)
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    CJB, ptmflbcs, Pager, vbdietz, EricRSINY

    You have yet to convince me that you are right and he is wrong.  All you've done is tell me that he has "lost it", and then printed a letter where it doesn't appear to me that he has.

    Also, if some of this stuff was supposed to remain private, this may not be appropriate at all.

    "I remember every detail. The Germans wore gray. You wore blue."

    by dfb1968 on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:29:51 AM PST

  •  Nebraska, not Iowa! (3+ / 0-)

    And the rest of us thought the big political conflict this weekend in the frozen midwest was in Iowa!

    Ain't no time to hate.

    by howardpark on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:32:52 AM PST

  •  If this is how you have been handling conflict (0+ / 0-)

    I can see why Kyle is calling for your head. Sounds to me like the problem isn't him...it's you.

    Did you ever get the box checked on your grade school report card: "Does not play well with others?"

    I'm guessing yes.

    "...the Edwards folks do not endorse Brittany's crotch."

    by Pager on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:37:54 AM PST

    •  Oh yeah. (2+ / 0-)
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      I'm not really into politics to win any popularity contests. If that were all I wanted I'd just go along with the crowd and happily follow the other lemmings over the cliff. The current situation in Nebraska is one of overwhelming Republican dominance and an increasingly irrelevant Democratic Party.

      What would you have me do, invite everyone over for tea and crumpets? I believe we Democrats have rolled over and let the Republicans have their way with us for long enough. Its time for us to find our nasty side and learn to fight for what is right.

      Gimmee back my country!

      by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:49:34 AM PST

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      •  Good to see you are open to self-criticism. (2+ / 0-)
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        You've proven Kyle's point, in my opinion. Running around claiming your party is "laundering" money? I think you ought to be removed for making an accusation you cannot seem to prove.

        I think it's time for you to take a step back and start looking at yourself in a mirror.

        As for finding your nasty side, mission accomplished, buddy.

        "...the Edwards folks do not endorse Brittany's crotch."

        by Pager on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 10:00:49 AM PST

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  •  This is why I quit working as a party regular (3+ / 0-)
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    I got so sick and tired of watching petty internal politics and backstabbing while all I wanted was to beat Republicans.

    •  Lol! One time at a county meeting (5+ / 0-)
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      red moon dog, Pd, Pager, ChapiNation386, JFinNe

      the usual suspects started rangling about Robert's Rules.  Back and forth, back and forth.  All of a sudden the recording secretary shoots to his feet and yells, "This is why we can't win elections, people!"

      Everyone except the hair-splitters burst into wild applause.

      It takes very little to derail good work and put people off.

      •  Splitting hairs (0+ / 0-)

        So shoving a lifelong, anti-labor Republican (less than a month as a Democrat) down our throats, financial shenanigans of the first order, and a complete disregard for the governing body of our party is "splitting hairs?"

        I'm glad you don't have to deal with such things in your state.

        Gimmee back my country!

        by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:54:53 AM PST

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        •  What are the financial "shenanigans"? (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm finding quite a bit about the Raimondo issue, including, I believe, your threat of a lawsuit...but haven't run across anything on the financial controversy.

          •  Financial shenanigans (0+ / 0-)

            Call it "splitting hairs" if you like, but to me, when our Bylaws say that only the Treasurer or one of our designated party officers is allowed to sign checks, but I have been to the party office and seen, with my own eyes, that was not the case. Presented with those facts our party Treasurer had the gall to say that so long as he has been Treasurer an employee was allowed to sign them. He also said that so long as he has been party Treasurer we have not had an audit, even though that is an annual requirement in our Bylaws.

            The State Central Committee voted to have an audit and what we received was a "compilation report" not an audit. Then we were lectured for not "funding" such a thing.

            A Coordinated Campaign was run with no authorization, nor oversight by, the SCC in 2006. I was personally told by Sen. Nelson, "Well, it's MY money!" The language that would have allowed the SCC to have its fiduciary duty of oversight of the CC was stricken from our Constitution between the 2002 and 2004 versions. Although all the money from the CC was paid out on SCC check blanks, no oversight was allowed by the SCC.

            Gimmee back my country!

            by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 10:16:21 AM PST

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          •  Of course... (2+ / 0-)
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            Pager, Morgan Sandlin

            Because while Brian saw fit to print the letter, he removed all of the footnotes and references that Kyle included in the leter.

        •  Dear Brian, (0+ / 0-)

          I wasn't even refering to you.  I was talking about something that happpened 1/2 a continent away in my own little county.

          If your insistance upon misinterpreting what I say is indicative of your general conversation, I think I'd be tempted to take my toys over to Kyle's sandbox.

          •  Sorry CJB (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm just a bit upset about too many of the "democrats" in Nebraska not giving a damn about the way our party is being run (into the ground). I went off on something that definitely affects politics in my own state.

            You're right though. Arguing over Roberts Rules is kinda funny.

            Gimmee back my country!

            by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 03:20:54 PM PST

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            •  I feel ya. (0+ / 0-)

              My inlaws are in NE.  Wilbur to be exact.  My Repub father-in-law is fed up with his own party, but when I try to talk about the Nebraska Dems, he just sort of chortles.

              I hope it works out over there.  It's easy for me to make fun.  I'm in Oregon which is likely to remain blue thanks to the urban areas.

              Sorry if I was snippy.  I've found myself being something of an ass lately.  I think it's the candidate diaries.  They wear me out.

              Thanks for your civil reply.  Not sure I deserved it.

              Peace.

              •  It's OK (1+ / 0-)
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                CJB

                I got called on the carpet this afternoon by a really, really fine Democratic woman whom I have the utmost respect for. She asked me to (PLEASE) knock it off. I'd rather keep her as a friend than keep Kyle Michaelis as an enemy. So I've signed off on his little blog and will bother him no more.

                The blogs have a way of bringing out the worst in us don't they?

                Gimmee back my country!

                by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 04:15:29 PM PST

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  •  Raimondo's BBF Ben Nelson (1+ / 0-)
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    red moon dog

    Raimondo is perhaps running with the blessings of Schumer, Emmanuel, and of course, Ben Nelson.  He originally threw his name out as a Republican candidate but decided not to compete with Johann's.  To some of us old long time FDR Democrats, this is unacceptable.  I don't know the numbers, but NebraskaLefty carries the torch for some of us.

    Still, I agree, posting here is rather like hanging dirty linen out to dry.

    "Man's life's a vapor Full of woe. He cuts a caper, Down he goes. Down de down de down he goes.

    by JFinNe on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 09:48:11 AM PST

  •  The Nebraska Democratic Party (0+ / 0-)

    'Leadership' has always been (at least for the last 30 years or so) a pretty closed bunch and they don't like people bringing up silly things like rules.

    On the other hand, better SOMEBODY on the ballot than NOBODY.  A Conservative Democrat will still vote with us more often than a Republican.  I absolutely agree that our state and local parties have collapsed since the 'glory' days of Jim Exon and Bob Kerry, but throwing grenades isn't going to get us anywhere.

    I'd love to have a Kennedy-type Progressive here who had a prayer of winning, but this ain't New England.

    I've been in and out of State Party politics since Jimmy Carter and there are always folks who (rightly or wrongly) think the leadership is a bunch of crooks.  If you have any evidence of criminal wrongdoing, take it to the AG (he'd LOVE you for it).  Otherwise, STFU and try to find us some good candidates.  You're a part of the party structure that's supposed to be doing that, not just complaining about it.  

    •  That's the thing (1+ / 0-)
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      ptmflbcs

      All they do is talk and talk and they don't accomplish anything!

      The rest of us at NNN are trying to change the landscape in one way or another and all Osborn and Dorsh do is sit on their butt and complain. (We volunteer, we help fundraise, we blog for, etc...) They do nothing!

      I don't want to see Raimondo as our nominee either which is why I am trying to Draft Scott Kleeb to run rather than waste my time on nonsense.

      These two are a joke and they need to grow up or go away.

      •  Bullshit (0+ / 0-)

        Mike, you are speaking out of your ass and you know it. I volunteer, I fundraise, I waste my time blogging at least as much as you do. I have also been instrumental in the formation of the 3rd Congressional District Organization, I help put out a newsletter, designed a website for the 3rd CDO, I sit on three different NDP committees.

        So for you to say such things then follow Mr. Michaelis' lead in condemning me for giving a damn is disappointing. I expected better from you.

        Gimmee back my country!

        by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 10:34:33 AM PST

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        •  Ha! Expect better from me...? (0+ / 0-)

          Why? Because I gave you the benefit of the doubt when everyone told me I shouldn't?

          You always say that you aren't entitled to your own set of facts. Well, is anything Kyle wrote in that letter inaccurate? Hmm. Because it isn't.

          I don't blame Kyle and everyone else for being tired of you and your self serving bullshit. What you fail to realize is that I agree with you more than you know but you have no credability to make any arguements or alliances with.

          •  Facts (0+ / 0-)

            Several of the things Kyle wrote in his rant are factually inaccurate.

            Tell me Mike, what is self serving about banging my head continuously against the brick wall of resistance I have gotten to reforming the NDP? I'm not a masochist.

            The NDP will never be as Liberal as I would like it to be. What I've been fighting for, at great personal cost in both time and money, has been to revive a Nebraska Democratic Party that those Independents and moderate Republicans that left us would be proud to come home to.

            I've begun to think I'm wasting my time. When the President of the Nebraska Young Republicans supports an oligarchy rather than the people, when the best we can offer our fellow Democrats is a washed up Republican on our ballot, what's the point?

            Gimmee back my country!

            by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 03:28:22 PM PST

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        •  Really? (0+ / 0-)

          This is your M.O., every time someone points out that you're full of shit, you attack them.

      •  Are you the newly appointed fuhrer at NNN? (0+ / 0-)

        I have read NNN but not commented there... mostly because it is mostly a whole bunch of people whining and making personal attacks, much like you just did above..

        BT - Ne Lefty surely kicked a hornets nest when he posted that letter here... but as far as I can tell, he is right in the fact that the by laws are being broken by the Leadership, and their response when questioned about it is... too bad.

        Don't make out that he is some Idiot crying in the wilderness, he has a lot of supporters here in NE, that will back his stance that the BYLAWS should be followed. Up to and including filing a lawsuit against the NE Dem leaders to make them answer for it.

        I agree that drafting or getting Scott Kleeb to run is the best course, (and I am registered to support him) but I also believe laws are laws.
        And BT has a very good point.

        Also - You must be another young college age kid like Kyle... the point of his whole letter and your post above is you wanting people to go away that you don't like to hear from, or dislike hearing an opinion different from your own.  

        The very reason BTO posted that letter here, and has had to go public with some dirty laundry is... people like you, and Kyle and the leadership don't want to face facts and answer the basic question
        WHY is the NE Dem party not following their own bylaws?

        There are a lot of people on NNN that need to grow up and act like adults... but I would say in my opinion that You and Kyle should be at the top of that list.

        •  There are those who watch... (0+ / 0-)

          And those who act. I refuse to sit on the sidelines or simply complain. I'm actively working to change the Democratic Party in Nebraska. So is Kyle. So is Mike. Brian believes by simply complaining loudly about it and removing one figurehead leader of the NDP you will magically change the culture here. And he insults anyone who tells him it's not that easy.

          P.S.: A helpful hint, and this is really meant as constructive criticism, your blog would be a lot easier to read if you made it clear which material is yours and which material you are copying from another source. A "blockquote" tag should do the trick.

          •  See my other comments above...and (0+ / 0-)

            You only reason you are here is to back up your friend Kyle, who stepped way over the line with his letter..

            Everyone  - (including Brian) is entitled to their own opinion about where OUR party goes and what is best for it... not just YOU and your little crowd of Young Dems.

            Kudos for all your work trying to build the party, but in that same vein... don't tear down other people that are not like you, and don't think like you, people that also care about the party and the future, like Brian.

            Change will come the NDP, it can come from inside via the leaders or from the outside via the grassroots... but it is coming.

            Brian believes by simply complaining loudly about it and removing one figurehead leader of the NDP you will magically change the culture here. And he insults anyone who tells him it's not that easy.

            That's your opinion.. I disagree.

            And thanks for the hint about using block quote... I am using it... when I am not rebuilding the site from scratch with a backup after being hacked - twice, or fighting off trackback spams from servers in China owned by someone from the Netherlands...

            I must have pissed someone off somewhere...

      •  Um no... (0+ / 0-)

        All they do is talk and talk and they don't accomplish anything!

        You know better than that... what magical part of thin air are you getting your ideas from to make a false statement like that?

        So far my opinion of you, Kyle and Dave and all the other activist NE Young Dems is that you can't handle people that disagree with you.

        AND You all complain just as much as anyone else that posts on NNN, and here..

        You seem to want to be invovled in politics on your own little "life in a bubble" terms, well your inexperience is showing, badly.  Life and especially politics is nothing like that.

        I am coming to the conclusion that you and all your friends, Kyle, Dave, etc bring youthful energy to the party but not much else, and you surely don't respect people with more worldly and political experience than your own.

        AND someone YOUR age telling people much older than YOU are, to grow up or go away... is pretty laughable.

         

    •  Leadership... (0+ / 0-)

      'Leadership' has always been (at least for the last 30 years or so) a pretty closed bunch and they don't like people bringing up silly things like rules.

      On the other hand, better SOMEBODY on the ballot than NOBODY."
      ----------------------------------------
      So accepting the status quo is good?

      And I don't care HOW anyone casts a light on it...
      Raimundo is WORSE than nobody... he's a lifelong Republican switching sides to get a Senate seat.. and the power that goes with it. I suspect his motives in doing so, and I won't support him.

      And the leadership is either ignoring the FACT that this violates the NE DEM Constitution...  or they don't care.

      And either way...  it's not good.

  •  Calling Out In A Diary Title... (1+ / 0-)
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    Pager

    I know our little website has allowed you to get away with personal attacks of this sort, Brian, but I'd remind you of a few things.

    - Kyle and the New Nebraska Network have a very good reputation around here. - Kyle is a member at this site. - There isn't a single inaccurate statement in that letter.

    As an officer of Nebraska Young Democrats, and contributing editor of the New Nebraska Network, I fully stand behind what Kyle wrote. If you disagree, you could have e-mailed him. But that's not your style. You like to air everything in public. Including confidential strategy about legislative campaigns.

    •  Should have emailed him? (0+ / 0-)

      You're kidding me, right? If President Michaelis wants to use the power of his office to attack me for abusing the power of my office, then we're going public.

      You and Kyle are legends in your own minds. Because you sit around and pontificate on your precious NNN you've started to believe that what you think is the truth just because you wrote it. As I have told you and Kyle, time and again, the truth is the truth ... not what you say it is.

      Gimmee back my country!

      by NebraskaLefty on Sun Dec 30, 2007 at 11:03:32 AM PST

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    •  As an aside.... (1+ / 0-)
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      In my use of the googles this morning I ran across New Nebraska Network.

      My compliments. A very well done site.

    •  No I disagree. (0+ / 0-)
      1.  Kyle and the NNN do NOT have a good reputation except maybe in your mind... NNN is full of people making personal attacks on each other, And Kyle is right there too leading the way. It is a well done site, and gets lots of traffic and comments... but after you simply read there for awhile, you realize WHY the NE Dem party is so darn disfunctional.
      1. Kyle took it one step farther issuing that personal diatribe against Mr. Osborn using his personal office to other leaders in the SCC..

      Kyle went public with these issues... when HE could have kept it between him and Mr. Osborn.

      1. While his letter might be factual, it is still a diatribe and unbecoming someone in the leadership to write something like that, very unprofessional on Kyle's part I would say.

      The other thing both YOU and KYLE (and I e-mailed him this point personally) need to realize is, in a Democracy everyone gets to talk and voice their opinion, and everyone's opinion carries just as much weight as yours does.

      •  Read again... (0+ / 0-)
        - NNN has a good reputation here at Daily Kos and across the state of Nebraska. It's something Kyle has earned over the last 2 years and I've been lucky enough to contribute to for the last few months. The personal attacks on our site didn't start until a user named BTOz decided to devolve every single thread into a personal diatribe against the NDP leadership.

        - That was most definitely a private correspondence between the members of the State Central Committee, which Brian decided to make public.

        There are two diverging cultures right now - the complacent leadership and those who have no understanding of how to tackle the real problems we face. Both sides are engaged in a virtual pissing contest, but only one side has routinely dragged it into the public sphere.

        NNN is dedicated to the idea of finding a new way, recognizing that the current leadership does not know how to win elections, and the current opposition has no idea how to change things.

        Brian Osborn is his own worst enemy. If he'd understand the value of building a coalition, maybe it wouldn't have come to this.

        •  I disagree.. (0+ / 0-)

          If NNN has a reputation across the state of Nebraska... it's more like what I posted above...
          Mostly personal attacks and bickering comments..
          And it has been going on for awhile... Sure BTO feeds it... that's his style, but he isn't the only one.

          Kyle could be acting more as moderator to end the pissing contests, instead he climbs right down in the mud in the middle of it...  That's his reputation, in MY own opinion.

          I personally know 4 other Democrats that don't and WON'T post there for that simple reason, and we all donate time and money to Dem causes here locally, including volunteering.

          Regardless, the letter Kyle wrote was a diatribe..
          Personal / Private or not..

          There are two diverging cultures right now - the complacent leadership and those who have no understanding of how to tackle the real problems we face. Both sides are engaged in a virtual pissing contest, but only one side has routinely dragged it into the public sphere.

          No there are two different mind sets... those that support the same old status quo.... and those who want and embrace change...  

          You can't be an enabler of the current state of affairs, and an agent of change at the same time.

          Hint here -  NNN is a public sphere... and from the view of an outsider Dem, it ain't pretty, and don't lay it all on BTO...

          NNN is dedicated to the idea of finding a new way, recognizing that the current leadership does not know how to win elections, and the current opposition has no idea how to change things.

          OK, so how do you get NNN back out of the mud, and back to something close to the mission statement you just posted above?

          For a start, You and Kyle and everyone else involved with the Party Leadership could quit acting like your opinion carries more weight than everyone else's does, it's nice to have the insight NNN posts,
          But if you are an editor or Blogger on that site, you should not be down in the comments section engaged in warfare with people that disagree with you.

          And second, if you DO start arguing about posts. Then don't complain about pissing contests in the NNN comments when Kyle and most of the other regulars there jump right in and enable that to happen.

          A smart Webmaster / Blog Editor would have taken the time to stop the personal attacks a long time ago...
          on NNN it hasn't happened, and I don't have much faith in that happening any time soon either.

        •  Just a little more. (0+ / 0-)

          Here's a direct comment quoted off NNN...

          I'm as dissatisified as anyone with the current state of Democratic politics in Nebraska, but the bickering and down right disgraceful fighting on this site is turning too many good Democrats away. This site should be a place for good substanial debate. It should be a place to promote local Democratic candidates, to discuss the issues, keep up to date on Nebraska politics, etc...

          Sorry but the fact is... NNN isn't that great for NE Dem's ... because the bloggers and webmaster - KYLE - keep going down into the comments and stirring up pissing contests.

          I really don't know or care if Kyle is your buddy and you are here and there just to defend him.

          But NNN in it's current format is just driving people away from our party, and contributing there.
          And THAT is not an enviable reputation to have, no matter how you spin it.

          Politics gets ugly sometimes, and people spew out angry opinions that you surely won't agree with.
          If you look back in history, this has not changed from the time our country was founded.

          The main thing is allowing discourse without going to the point of nuking each other..
          (within our party and supporters).

          And no matter how you are trying to make it look good for Kyle, he is JUST as guilty for where this thread, and original post is today.

          This whole thing issue should have been settled a long time ago, when it started and should not have been allowed to fester into a drag down fight.

          And you claiming it's all BTO's fault is not factual, because it takes 2 sides to have a war.
          BTO verses you and Kyle, or who ever.

          Brian and Kyle both let their emotions get the best of them and just ran off the deep end to get in a few more digs at each other.

          I am not in the party Leadership... although I bet this is being discussed at that level, But I do think both of them bring good things to our party...
          (Brian and Kyle).

          They BOTH just need to use this as a coaching moment
          and learn to cool their emotions before they push the SEND button.

          The entire Democratic Party of Nebraska would be well served if they used the Newspaper rule..

          As in - How would this look if the entire story was printed in the local paper...

          If you can't tell.. I AM an advocate for open source politics, and a whole lot more honesty in the same.

          In my opinion, from what I see you posted here, you value your friends or party loyalty over facts... which is not my choice, nor my set of values.

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