I live in IN, and actually voted right after the polls opened at 6:00 AM. I'm home watching the kids now, and got a phone call from the Clinton campaign a Clinton phonebanker asking if I could count on their vote. I told them no, I would not be voting for Hillary Clinton. They asked if I would be voting for McCain. I said, "Oh heavens, no!"
That's when the fun started. Below the fold is a paraphrasing of the conversation. My responses are in italics.
(Eeek! I'm on the rec list for an angry rant! You out-of-touch, bitter, elitist, latte-sipping folks are too kind!)
UPDATE: I almost forgot the most important part, about Hillary losing the independent vote. I did mention it, Markos! Thanks for that story!
UPDATE II: As mentioned below, I'm sure it was just some phonebanker, and not some official higher-up in the campaign. They still ought not teach those people to lie like that. :-P
According to the lady from the Clinton campaign Clinton phonebanker that I spoke to, Michigan and Florida are going to be counted. Howard Dean said so today. He said so. So did Politico. There is going to be a DNC rules committee meeting on May 31, and all the delegates will be seated.
We can't win without Florida and Michigan.
No, Hillary can't win the nomination without all the delegates from Florida and Michigan being counted, and her chances are still slim even then.
If we don't seat Florida and Michigan, we'll lose those votes and McCain will win in November!
Actually, the last I saw Obama was polling ahead of McCain in Michigan. Granted he's way behind in Florida, and Hillary is trailing slightly. But Obama was ahead in Michigan
Obama can't win. Reverend Wright! Reverend Wright! He's lost the white vote! The male vote! The . . .
No, that's not true. There was a recent NBC/WSJ poll that showed people are more concerned about McCain's ties to Bush than Obama's ties to either Wright or Ayers. And besides, Hillary can't win the independents. She's losing the independent vote in most swing states, except Florida. (Thank you, Markos!)
But we need Florida and Michigan. If we don't count those votes McCain will win! They are going to seat the delegates. Hillary will get 70 from FL and 60 from MI (I'm assuming she meant percentage?).
How can they do that? Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan
He took his name off . . .
I know he did. He and everyone besides Hillary had their names removed from the ballot. How can she claim that's a fair contest?
Would you still vote for Obama if you knew the election wouldn't count?
Yes.
No you wouldn't.
You don't know that! Stop putting thoughts in my head and words in my mouth! You can't say that at all! I'm sorry that facts keep flying in the face of your talking points. Now the real truth of the matter is that Hillary Clinton signed a pledge agreeing to not count FL and MI. If she didn't need them to have any chance at all of getting the nomination, she wouldn't give a crap about them. It wasn't until she realized that she needed them that she became this great crusader against disenfranchisement . . . .
I said more, but realized in a bit she had hung up on me. I guess the truth hurts.
Goddamn lying fucking sack of shit motherfucking assholes!
Okay, now I feel better.