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I am ready, believe me, I am so ready, for the nomination contest to be over.  For the full-on assault of an aggrieved populace against a miserable ideology to roll over that ideology and its adherents like a tank.

But there is the question first of who shall lead the charge.  Per all the rules and regulations of the party that is going to do the steamrolling, the candidate with the most delegates is that leader.  We all know the dynamics of how we got here, we all know that in some respects this drawn-out primary has gotten more people invested in the political process than ever before.  But there's a crucial thing that has to happen before it continues.  People keep telling us, here on Kos, that the Obama movement needs to embrace the Hillary partisans and wrap us all in a glowing fog of lovin' before we can continue on with the charge.

That's great.  But there's a problem.

I've tried to approach this several ways, and by no means am I the source of sweetness and light in this world.  I self-assess as a pragmatist and a realist and a skeptic.  I do not suffer fools or nonsense.

I'm willing to compromise to get things done but I don't tolerate bullshit.  I prefer people who stick to the facts and belittle people who make things up.  Sorry.  I don't have time for fairytales or the people who tell them.

There's a nut of a problem here that is going to be hard to overcome.  The Hillary campaign has, to sustain itself since February, entertained several delusional notions that cannot be suffered anymore.

In order for there to be unity, the party must accept Obama as the legitimate candidate.  In order for that to happen, Hillary has to walk her supporters back from the cliff she's talked them to.  It's a hell of a high cliff, too.  Listen to enough of them and it's a thousand-foot drop onto the jagged Cliffs of McCain below, and no mean ol' sexist Obama Campaign can possibly talk them out of rushing over it like a herd of fucking lemmings.

This cannot be fixed by Obama supporters.  We are told that there is NO FUCKING WAY he can be the winner, because she's ahead in the popular vote.  Because Michigan voters have been disfranchised.  Because caucuses don't count.  Because she's won more states (since some arbitrary date which is not the beginning of the primary).  Because Obama is unelectable.  Because she has more Electoral Votes.  Because McCain has more valid experience.

Hillary has fed these absurdities to her supporters.  Every time the Obama partisans see the light at the end of the tunnel, more absurdities arise.  Every time he wins big in a state like North Carolina, or crosses the threshold of the pledged delegates, or settles an issue such as Michigan and Florida, Harold Ickes or Bill, or even Hillary herself goes out and says something so mendacious it can scarcely be believed.  And since Hillary supporters are listening to her version of the events, only Hillary can convey the message.  That it is time.  To stop.

Hillary is the only one who can stop selling the myth that she is ahead in the popular vote.  I have had arguments with supporters about this.  They literally are incapable of viewing the world without this made-up metric.  They cannot count caucus states.  They cannot stop from counting Soviet Michigan.

Hillary is the only one who can stop selling the myth that caucuses don't count.

Hillary is the only one who can reverse her judgment that McCain and herself have passed the CIC threshold, and Obama has merely made a speech.

Hillary is the only one who can put the charges of sexism to rest.

Hillary is the only one who can make the admission that phantom Electoral Votes are not the measure by which the primary is won.

Hillary is the only one who can concede.

Every time an opportunity exists for Obama to claim victory, at a time when you would expect the gracious loser to concede and admit that yes, it is in fact over, and that the Obama movement might lean over and give the defeated but friendly opponents a hand up so we can join together and move on to the real fight, the Hillary movement gives us the finger.  Every time we turn to calm ourselves from the storm, we get a spear between our ribs.

Just today, we have had the hokey-pokey AP announcement that Hillary would, then later WOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT, concede the nomination.  On the eve of the end of the primary, when a clear leader in pledged delegates is still going to be ahead no matter what happens.  When the phonied-up issue of Michigan and Florida has been clearly and unambiguously resolved, by the STATES THEMSELVES I might add, dripping with derision and sarcasm for those who think those solutions were imposed on the states by the RBC.

There is nothing left to contest but a scorched-earth campaign to Denver where history suggests we will destroy our party and ensure another generations' domination by Republicans.

I've tried pointing out the obvious.  For Hillaryites who are planning on taking their ball and going home, or even worse, voting McCain, I have provided diagrams of coathangers and homelessness, maps of Iraq and photographs of flag-draped coffins.  This is not a vanity contest.  This is not a popularity contest (though, in some ways it actually is).  This is a quest for the leader of our nation at a time of burgeoning crisis.  It is not about who we like the most.  I am not a TV person and I have actually listened to/watched only one or two of Obama's speeches.  I'm not into this because of how I personally feel about him.  I am into this because I have seen that he has the leadership abilities required to get the United States out of the hole that 30 years of inept Republicanism have dug us into.

And I'd love to stand down on Hillary.  But her campaign keeps charging like Don fucking Quixote.  The Obama camp cannot bury the hatchet if the Clinton camp keeps digging it back out and swinging it at our necks.

Hillary.  Must.  Concede.  She must stop making these claims.  Her supporters will NEVER stop the hysteria until she does.  And if she doesn't, I really don't think this thing can make it to November, even with Mr. Short Temper and Shorter Memory McCain as the opponent.

Originally posted to slippytoad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:07 PM PDT.

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  •  Even If Youre Absolutely Right About (2+ / 0-)
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    ssgbryan, princess k

    ...where we need to go... how do you suppose this helps us get there?

    ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

    by TooFolkGR on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:10:05 PM PDT

    •  You don't stop a fight (6+ / 0-)

      By turning your back on someone who keeps attacking you.

      Which is what Very Concerned People keep telling us to do.

      It.  Can't.  Work.  Until she stops.

      Warned you we tried. Listen you did not. Now screwed we all are.

      by slippytoad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:12:52 PM PDT

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      •  Actually turning your back works really well.... (0+ / 0-)

        unless they are in a violent rage then it just exposes yur back.

        Has Clinton and her supporters reached the violent rage stage......perhaps.

        "I would like to see less people go to church on Sunday and more people volunteering among the poor and hopeless"

        by comeinpbrstreetgang on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:15:34 PM PDT

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        •  As a judoka with 6 years' training (0+ / 0-)

          I can unambiguously state that you are wrong.  Turning your back on an opponent before the match has been called is an invitation to be attacked.

          Warned you we tried. Listen you did not. Now screwed we all are.

          by slippytoad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 02:41:52 PM PDT

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      •  She Hasn't Run a Negative Ad (2+ / 0-)
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        Sanuk, crazyshirley2100

        Since IN & NC.  She actually hasn't even been on the offensive... it's just that nobody here is able to get over their hatred long enough to see it.  Obviously nobody can concede for her, and that's something everybody already knows.

        So again:  How does this diary get us any closer to that?

        ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

        by TooFolkGR on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:16:06 PM PDT

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        •  Holy mackerel..... (0+ / 0-)

          open ur eyes and ears.

          "I would like to see less people go to church on Sunday and more people volunteering among the poor and hopeless"

          by comeinpbrstreetgang on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:18:40 PM PDT

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          •  Nah, Get Out In The Sun (2+ / 0-)
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            Sanuk, crazyshirley2100

            You spend too much time here, you think that a diary here is news and that a poster here is a source.  Go out in the world and look at what's really been going on since Indiana and North Carolina.  You're going to see a whole bunch of nothing stirred up into big shit by some of Obama's ugliest (and tragically loudest) supporters, all the while he himself stayed above it all and kept racking up the delegates.

            ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

            by TooFolkGR on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:20:49 PM PDT

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        •  Did you miss the RBC meeting? (6+ / 0-)

          Did you miss the crazed supporters screaming "Denver!"  Did you miss the aggrieved older woman who lashed out in front of the cameras?

          There's some hate going on here.  But you're mistaking the reaction of people who are really just tired of the lies and distortions as "hate."

          This is not the only board I frequent.  There are posters on other boards who CONTINUE to foment these delusions.  And the Clinton Campaign CONTINUES to make these claims.  They didn't stop after IN & NC.  Hell, they are still doing it TODAY.

          You give me a ringy-ding when Clinton stands down.  It is the only thing she can do to stop this monster that she's made.   Her remaining supporters are not living in the fact-based world.  They are not ready to concede, until she does.  That's the simple fact.

          Warned you we tried. Listen you did not. Now screwed we all are.

          by slippytoad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:22:35 PM PDT

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          •  Exactly.... (1+ / 0-)
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            squirecam

            the reason Clinton can't bury the hatchet is she's too busy falling on her sword.

            "I would like to see less people go to church on Sunday and more people volunteering among the poor and hopeless"

            by comeinpbrstreetgang on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:25:05 PM PDT

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          •  No I Didn't Miss Any Of That (1+ / 0-)
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            Sanuk

            But I'm confused.  Was it Hillary screaming, "Denver?"  Was it Hillary lashing out at the camera?  All election season, people have told me in the bile-filled comment fields of DailyKos that it would be "Unfair" to hold Obama responsible for some of the awful and senseless things his supporters here have said (and recced) and I completely agree.

            So tell me, how are the words and actions of those people at the RBC meeting hers to make up for?

            ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

            by TooFolkGR on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:25:54 PM PDT

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            •  The fact that she was trolling (1+ / 0-)
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              squirecam

              for delegates this late in the game and stirring the pot of MI/FL is all the evidence I need o know that Clinton hasn't been living in a reality based world since last November or so when so many nincompoop Supers endorsed her.

              "I would like to see less people go to church on Sunday and more people volunteering among the poor and hopeless"

              by comeinpbrstreetgang on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:27:51 PM PDT

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              •  What's Funny Is (0+ / 0-)

                Obama's going to be the nominee anyway, and the fact that the RBC seated part of their delegations will help us in November.

                So she may be living in a non-reality based world, but at least she's got you to keep her company.

                ---- now they sit and rattle their bones and think of their bloodstone days...

                by TooFolkGR on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:29:41 PM PDT

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                •  So seating the delegates... (0+ / 0-)

                  was really a plan for Obama to win in November and not Hillary to win the Primary.

                  Wow how altruistic of her and her campaign. Lucky we have an insider like you to splain things to us...cuz for a minute it just looked like she was a egomaniacal shithead bent on ambition without a shred of regard for the party.

                  My bad...

                  "I would like to see less people go to church on Sunday and more people volunteering among the poor and hopeless"

                  by comeinpbrstreetgang on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:32:10 PM PDT

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        •  Yesterday Bill hacked on Obama to Mayhill Fowler (1+ / 0-)
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          slippytoad

          saying he gets the media to lie about Hillary, that Obama is not running the clean campaign he claims.

          Also, realize that every time Ickes, McAuliffe, Bill or Hillary throws out their contrived popular vote, primaries won since a certain date, etc. what they are saying is that this primary is a fraud, and that Obama is the fraud nominee.  It was stolen from them and Obama is the thief.  That pisses people off.

      •  Remember the movie Million Dolar Baby? (1+ / 0-)
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        comeinpbrstreetgang

        "Always defend yourself at all times".

  •  Bring on Sebelius (3+ / 0-)
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    vtdem, Hastur, PittsburghPete

    A Sebelius VP selection would go along way towards healing the rift within the party

    a white lady who is professional, dad was gov of ohio and can reach across the isle.

    Sebelius neutralizes hillary

    •  GREAT VP PICK, but.... (3+ / 0-)

      ...what would Hillary's supporters do when (if) Sebelius is given the VP slot?

      They would go BESERK!

      Even more than they are now.

      •  I agree. We shouldn't just pick any woman just (1+ / 0-)
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        Dennnis

        because; that didn't help Mondale in 84 and it certainly won't help Obama in 08. I'm not against Sebelius but I think  We should still go for most qualified for the coalition Barack has built and the most relevant to making the best ticket (not saying that is not Sebelius).

        •  The VP is mostly ceremonial (0+ / 0-)

          ...and the real heavy lifting will be done at the cabinet level, and to the hundreds of presidential appointees.

          The Democratic party needs the ladies.

          For me, HRC, by her actions, has disqualified herself from consideration as Vice President. She couldn't even throw him a bone last night, and congradulate him on his victory.

          One of the talking heads on CNN, a lady, pro-Hillary, last night said: "But this is HER night!" She got STOMPED by the other panelists. The audacity and arrogance of this was astonishing.

  •  The V.P. slot is given by the nominee (6+ / 0-)

    not taken by the runner up.

  •  My gut feeling .... Richardson as VEEP (3+ / 0-)
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    Rex Manning, princess k, DFutureIsNow

    Hillary brings the Bill baggage and Obama just won't trust the two of them working behind his back.  

  •  Edwards..... (2+ / 0-)
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    Ed in Montana, oldjohnbrown

    Hillary, no-way!

    Richardson....snore.

    "I would like to see less people go to church on Sunday and more people volunteering among the poor and hopeless"

    by comeinpbrstreetgang on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:14:04 PM PDT

    •  Richardson...snore, is right, and good for (0+ / 0-)

      that.  You don't want the VP to upstage the P, not that anyone could, but still.  Plus, once in office, his foreign policy experience will be invaluable!  He is my pick, hands down.

      "The man and the hour have met!" Ladies and gentlemen, the next President of the United States, Barack Obama!

      by PittsburghPete on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:18:13 PM PDT

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  •  Mark Warner wants it and is on (2+ / 0-)
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    squirecam, PittsburghPete

    message with everything Obama wants to do. And he has the best chance of carrying the party forward in 2016.

    Barack and Mark! Obama/Warner '08

    by DWKING on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:16:21 PM PDT

  •  I am Clintoned-out. (6+ / 0-)

    As someone from a caucus state, I am tired of the implication that Maine doesn't count.  I'm tired of the self-serving claims that can only cause greater division in our party.  I'm tired of the obfuscation.  I'm tired of Bill's baggage.  

    IMHO he should ask her to accept nomination to the Supreme Court when one opens up, and I hope she accepts it.  But I don't want her in the cabinet and I certainly don't want her as VP.

    "War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate." - Marvin Gaye (-5.25, -4.97)

    by JBL55 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:18:55 PM PDT

  •  Bury the Hatchet??? Stop all this Violent Talk (0+ / 0-)

    please.

    someone may misinterpretet your words and be inclined to do something stoopid.

    Notice: This Comment © ROGNM

    by ROGNM on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:27:16 PM PDT

  •  Hillary. Must. Concede. (2+ / 0-)
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    ssgbryan, comeinpbrstreetgang

    Yep.

  •  The problem is (1+ / 0-)
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    comeinpbrstreetgang

    Will she? It seems to me that she and her surrogates are trying to force Obama to pick her as the running mate.

    Not sure if she can see beyond her own personal goals at this point.

  •  Dems on track to lose (0+ / 0-)

    After reading countless postings here arguing about what slot Hillary should be given, I'm discouraged.  Hillary lost.  Hillary's supporters need to get over it and support Obama.  Those are the facts.  Hillary is in no position to demand VP, Supreme Court, Cabinet, or any other such thing.  She slimed Obama and did everything possible to weaken him for the GE.  She is a horrible administrator as evidenced by her incredibly disorganized campaign, and her husband is thoroughly corrupt and out of control.  We have a chance now to put a terrific team in place headed by a fresh face that's captured the imagination and hopes of independents and even Republicans who would never have considered voting for a Dem.  It's time for Obama supporters to start thinking about the GE--the primary is over.  It's not a question now of giving Hillary a consolation prize that will please her supporters.  It's a question of organizing a campaign that will win a working majority of GE voters and will allow Obama to govern effectively.  Winning isn't enough.  He has to be able to govern effectively to deliver on his promises.  The Clintons need to get on with their lives, and there's no doubt they'll do just fine without having to be part of the Obama administration.

  •  Outstanding diary! As I'm fond of saying (0+ / 0-)

    once you know the nature of a thing, then you know what it's capable of.  Hillary and Bill Clinton problems w/ conceding, arguing positions that make no sense, simply is reflective of their nature.  By no means an attempt to excuse their behavior just that probably will take Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, Feinstein, et al to take her to the woodshed because otherwise, her nature is to obfuscate.

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