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    If you're not wondering what's going on within the Democratic Party of Ohio, you're not following the news.

    A spectacular series of corruption scandals in the most heavily Democratic counties -- Cuyahoga, Athens, Scioto, and Pike -- has left the impression that the GOP-controlled newspapers are only warming up for the sprint toward November 2010. Collectively, though not necessarily in order, the scandals involve Democratic politicians and appointees performing various "favors" in exchange for hotel rooms, hookers, hoochie, ham, home improvements, hard currency and handouts to family members.

    And no, I am not inventing the ham. Some revised Ohio bible must contain the Old Testament formula: "a ribeye for a ribeye" or "pork for pork," as unkosher as that may sound.

    Now, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner -- the woman who has tried to clean up the elections mess that stole the White House from John Kerry -- has come out swinging at her own party, accusing the Democratic machine of rigging her primary race for U.S. Senate.

    Me oh my oh, what the heck is happening in Ohio?

    More below the dangnabbed fold.      

2010: A Space Odyssey

    Jennifer Brunner has alluded to the troubles within the Democratic Party of her state in a DKOS diary that admirably frames the issue as a matter of truth-telling:  http://www.dailykos.com/...

     A more hard-core approach came in a recent interview with the National Journal -- http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal... -- in which Brunner recounts a conversation she had with congressman Zack Space. According to the Journal:

Brunner also said several mayors backing Fisher told her they were doing so to protect money headed to their cities.

    Space is arguably the most endangered Democrat in the country as of 2012, because he stands to lose not the election but his district. OH-18 is a highly gerrymandered monstrosity, almost certain to disappear after Ohio is stripped of two congressional seats following the 2010 census.
     According to Brunner, Space told her that he felt forced to endorse Lee Fisher, Brunner's opponent in the Senate race, because of the Governor's power in making decisions about redistricting. The clear implication is that Governor Ted Strickland has threatened the mayors with loss of funding, and Space with loss of his district, unless they all play ball with the Strickland machine. Strickland is backing his lieutenant governor, Fisher, for Senate, a race against Rob Portman that Fisher cannot possibly win.
     Space has denied making the statement, as he must deny it, but I know that Brunner is telling the truth. I know because I had my own "off-the-record" conversation with Space about internal party politics in 2007.
     Zack Space is a good and decent man, who detests the Ohio Democratic machine. While I am bound by confidentiality to not disclose the details of our conversation, it is public knowledge that Space won his seat only by defeating Chillicothe mayor Joe Sulzer in a bitter Democratic primary in 2006. That primary campaign was far more gruesome than the one for the general election.
     Sulzer was the candidate of the machine. He is, quite simply, a pig. He once argued publicly that developers have no obligation to disclose their plans, even if the "development project" involves a nuclear waste dump on federal land. I know Chillicothe Republicans driven into that party only because of the depradations of Sulzer's Stink-Town Democrats. (Chillicothe is called Stink Town because of the smell of the Meade paper plant, or at least that is the polite explanation.)

     If Space was willing to discuss his intra-party dilemmas with me, he certainly was willing to do so with Jennifer Brunner. We Democrats of Integrity in Ohio (it's at least a caucus if not a separate party) do occasionally need to share notes, and that is obviously what occured in the Brunner-Space conversation.
     On the other side of this side of the aisle are what a Kentucky friend calls "the Ohio style of intimidation politics." An inherited culture of the old Northwest Territory, Buckeye politicians believe it's their birthright to win office by a combination of threats and backroom deals, and to exercise that office by taking private possession of public assets. or using the withdrawal of public money, as Strickland has done, as an arm-twisting device. Ambrose Bierce, born and raised in southeast Ohio, defined politcs as "the conduct of public affairs for private advantage." He was way ahead of his time.
     Tell an Ohio machine politician that it's illegal to award public contracts to cronies who repay by kickback, and the reply will be nothing but head scratching. Why the heck else would someone want to run for office?

     Since Jennifer Brunner has decided to break the Code of Silence -- and bully for her as the Bull Moose candidate for President used to say -- I will add to the spate of revelations.
     Vic Wulsin, MD, lost the OH-02 congressional race against Jean Schmidt in 2006 by a scant 1.5 points. Why? Because, as Vic herself told me, Ted Strickland threatened her and forced her to drop her centerpiece campaign issue in the final two weeks.
     That issue was opposition to the nuclear waste dump at Piketon, the same one that Joe Sulzer and Ted Strickland supported. Strickland also hoodwinked Wulsin into hiring his own staff aide, Mary Hutlinger, as campaign manager. Hutlinger thoroughly Stricklandized the campaign, and publicly denounced Vic after the election, guaranteeing Wulsin's larger loss in 2008.
     Reportedly (i.e. not from Vic herself), during the 2006 campaign, Strickland offered Wulsin the position of Ohio Health Department director if Wulsin would capitulate to his demands, but the job never materialized after Strickland was elected Governor.
     Come on, Vic, it's time for you and everyone to spill the beans. Safety in numbers and all that jazz. The Age of Arm-Twisting has to be brought to an end.

Scandals at the Gate

    The orgy of unindicted Democratic criminality has produced quite a long list of instances in the three years of the Strickland Administration. Links to sources for many of the following choice items can be found in my diaries (click on my blogroll):

  1. In 2006, while running for office, Strickland told the Pike County News Watchman that he was "against the storage of high-level nuclear waste" at the Piketon federal reservation, the same plan that congresswoman Jean Schmidt and Chillicothe mayor Joe Sulzer openly supported. Documents later reveal that both before and after that interview, Strickland wrote letters of support for the consortium proposing the waste storage, and that Strickland accepted a $10,000 campaign contribution from consortium head Dan Moore.
  1. In 2007, the Columbus Dispatch caught the Waverly Police Department in Democrat-run Pike County letting more than a hundred speeders go in exchange for thousand-dollar checks made out to the city. No indictments, and the Party punished the police chief by nominating him for county sheriff (he won against token GOP opposition).
  1. In 2008, a group chained themselves to construction cranes in Columbus to protest Ted Strickland's lack of action to address systemic corruption in the Ohio family court system.
  1. In 2008 Strickland proposed applying federal "advanced energy" money intended to help reduce greenhouse gasses to support a plain-old dirty coal plant in Meigs County.  The utility company, American Municipal Power, has since canceled the project due to environmental concerns. (see my diary on this subject.)
  1. In 2008, in heavily Democratic Cuyahoga County, virtually the entire staff at an ODOT District office was found to be diverting highway funds through kickback arrangements for in-house stripper parties, Las Vegas junkets, "and ham."
  1. In 2009, Strickland's home county of Scioto, entirely Democrat-run, became the first Ohio county placed in a state of fiscal emergency by the state auditor.
  1. In 2009, the Democratic State Representative from Scioto County, Todd Book, proposes the "Cook-the-Books" scheme to resolve the state budget crisis. The scheme would count future taxes on non-approved slot machines as state revenue for the current budget. The Ohio Supreme Court knocks out the scheme, throwing the state into a severe budget crisis.
  1. In 2009, Portsmouth labor unions discover that the same Todd Book has arranged for his father's Georgia non-union construction company to get a no-bid contract on a state-funded school construction project in Ohio. The revelation forces Book to quit the OH-02 congressional race.
  1. In 2009, an FBI probe into complex corruption charges against Cuyahoga County Democrats is revealed. Jimmy Dimora, Frank Russo and others stand accused of rigging property appraisals, accepting bribes, and assorted other unniceties. Strickland has refused to call for the officials' resignations, leaving county government paralyzed. One can only wonder what kind of dirt Dimora and Russo have on Strickland. (Google this one on your own, have a field day.)
  1. In 2009, in Strickland's old congressional district, Athens County Democratic Party Chairwoman Susan Gwinn is prosecuted for "bribery and other charges, including theft in office, unauthorized use of property, falsification and money laundering." Her trial started on Thursday. http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/...

    These are only the highlights of the low-lifes. The list does not speak to the every-day corruption that Ohioans witness and experience in the awarding of state jobs and contracts, and in the workings of the state courts and county offices.
    So now you may begin to appreciate why Ohioans increasingly spell Strickland: C-O-R-Z-I-N-E

The Elephant in the Room

    An apropos Russian proverb about political corruption goes: "a fish rots from the head."      
    At the risk of mixing animal metaphors, when Governor Ted Strickland toured the state in 2008 as an alleged Obama surrogate, his stump speech started off with the rhetorical question: "What's the elephant in the room?"
     Wisely, he did not allow time for any answer from the audience. He'd jump in and answer his own question:

"The elephant in the room is RACE!"

     Too bad the Obama campaign had specifically asked its surrogates to NOT raise the racial question, since it only played to Republican subliminal strategy. Never mind, it was clear that Strickland, he of the "shame on you" nod, had his own 2010 reelection in mind, and so he had to signal his good ol' boy stalwarts with the exculpation that he was embracing the "black man," if only reluctantly as Ted would proceed to explain, for good ol' boy reasons.
     Them's Ohio politics, you could say, and Ted cannot escape his south Ohio upbringing. But if you say that, you'd be ignorant of the facts. You see, Ted Strickland grew up not only in the same country town but on the same street as Branch Rickey. Rickey, one of the great figures in U.S. civil rights, is the man who integrated major league baseball by recruiting Jackie Robinson to the NY Dodgers. Rickey always attributed his progressivism to the proud history of his home town as a key station of the Underground Railroad, and to the racial blindness preached in the same Methodist church where Ted Strickland was ordained.
     Strickland could have followed Rickey's lead by advertising Ohio as a standard-bearer for racial equality. Instead, throughout the 2008 campaign, Strickland intentionally fed the media lie that Barack Obama might be too black to win over the key swing area of south Ohio. Strickland actually said to national media before the general election that Ohioans might be too racist to elect Barack Obama, providing himself with a ready excuse if Obama did lose the state. (Taking a cue from the governor, CNN sent a crew to Strickland's home county of Scioto, looking to capture racist voters on air. They never mentioned that in the 1990s, the overwhelmingly white city of Portsmouth had elected a black mayor.)

     You see, Ted Strickland had planned on becoming Vice President in Hilary Clinton's Administration. All's fair in love and Ohio machinations.
     Predictably enough (and I did predict it), after a year of countless state budget fiascos and Democratic corruption scandals from the Erie lakeshore to Southpoint, Obama is polling ahead of Ted Strickland in the Buckeye State. We in the governor's home province now refer to him affectionately as Otto Strickland. "Otto" is an acronym: One Term Ted of Ohio. The only published poll of the governor's race since early November has Strickland losing to John Kasich by 9 points-- http://www.rasmussenreports.com/... -- and the trend is going down like that other kind of party girl.
    So it's time to revisit the question allowing for an audience response. What is the elephant in the room?
   The elephant in the room, Ted, is you.
    Not since Warren G. Harding brought his "Ohio Gang" from Washington Courthouse to Washington DC, resulting in the Teapot Dome scandal, has one group of Ohio henchmen gone on such a rampage of incompetent greed. Strickland has tried to turn the great state of Ohio into some unholy cross between Hudson County, New Jersey, and Joe Manchin's Mountaintop Removal State.
    Bob Taft, the former governor? There's almost Taft nostalgia in Ohio now. At least when the Republicans stole state money, they tried to do it quietly, and they sometimes went to jail (i.e. Bob Ney and the other nabobs). But now, the Democratic plunderfest is unconcealed, and the former Ohio attorney general, who was sacked after his own office sex-ring fiasco, has been replaced by a guy whom Strickland personally picked and pocketed.
    The chance of this attorney general going after corrupt machine Democrats is about the same as the chance of Joe Lieberman filibustering for a public option. And that's why the major indictments happening in Ohio are arising from cases prosecuted by the feds.
    Strickland has yet to formally announce his reelection bid, or to name a running mate as lieutenant governor. He's expected to do both shortly after the New Year. At the rate things are going, however, down-ballot Democrats would be best served if both of the top state-office spots are left blank.
    Even Stink-Town voters have a limited capacity for nose-holding.

Is ODP Down for the Count?

    The Ohio Democratic Party (ODP) recently held a series of events around the state, given the unfortunate title of "Knockout" rallies. I went to one. It was an upbeat even jovial kind of affair, full of good zinger lines for deployment against the GOP. ODP Executive Director Kelly donned a pair of boxing gloves, and did a little mix-em-up dance reminiscent of Muhammed Ali.
    One big problem. In the hour or so presentation, there was not one mention of Democratic Party corruption. Not a hint or a whisper that Rome was burning as Kelly fiddled with boxing gloves.
    After the New Jersey disaster, one might think that mention of an anti-corruption campaign might be in order? Not a chance. Denial is river that runs through Columbus, Ohio.

    Then there are the self-proclaimed "progressive" Ohio bloggers -- I mean the Plunderbums and the O.D. and B.S. websites. (In defense of their choice of names, I think the shit4brains.com domain name was taken.)
     This whole gang of six in total, has taken the curious common position of claiming to support Jennifer Brunner, while maintaining the Code of Silence on Big Otto's depradations. The solution to that enigma lies in the fact that another former Strickland staff aide, and former Hillary Clinton supporter, and former Scioto County machine Democrat named Brian Hester (whose blogging name is ModernEsquire) has dominated all three sites, at least ideologically.
     
     But never mind. The battle lines are drawn in Ohio this election year, though they aren't the familiar lines of red and blue. Instead, the wannabe Boss Tweeds of both major parties have joined forces. And against them stand people of integrity -- Democrats, Independents, and yes, Republicans, too. And our side wins in 2010, because whatever happens at the polls, 2010 represents the end of the 175-year Democratic Ohio Machine.

     Which side are you on?
   

Originally posted to Ohiobama on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 05:35 AM PST.

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    •  Thanks for the in-depth analysis - it's hard (6+ / 0-)

      to keep up with all the political dynamics in various states, so I appreciate the information you've provided.

      The land was ours before we were the land's...Robert Frost, The Gift Outright

      by HylasBrook on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 05:52:51 AM PST

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    •  HIGHLY recommended (5+ / 0-)

      As a former Ohio resident (and someone who has to read those right-wing "news"papers), you should be on the rec list.

      Unfortunately, Kossacks are too busy trying to defend mediocrity to care about Ohio.

    •  I'm confused (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm in Cuyahoga, follow poltiical news obsessively and blog about local politics. We have had a corruption "scandal" (mostly the way our local daily the Plainly Republican (Plain Dealer) has inflated the possible (uncharged) misdeeds of a cuple of county office holders. I have never heard about a local ODOT "scandal." It must be very tiny; in any case, it's been dwarfed in local headlines by these other two.

      Our real issue up here in Democratic women in revolt against the slating of Garrison for secretary of state.  Cuyahoga women are not happy campers about the party offering us such an anti-choice extremist and telling us "She won't change her beliefs; you have to sacrifice yours." The anger is palpable.

      Strickland will be fine. I saw him last night and he's in fine form. His "support" for Lee Fisher isn't clear.
      If Space thinks there's a problem, I think Space is a tad paranoid.

      Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com/

      by anastasia p on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 07:45:24 AM PST

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      •  You don't remember the ODOT Hooker-Ham Scandal? (0+ / 0-)

        Either you've been drinking Lake Erie water unfiltered, or you've been living on the planet Alzheimer.

        Check my blogroll from 2008. It wasn't a small scandal. Everyone who worked for any state office office knew about it and joked about it, until the probe was extended to those other offices and every state employee who had vacationed in Las Vegas was investigated.

        Look you can pretend to be unaware of all these things all the way to next November, but that only makes you the Queen of Cluelessness.

        You're the one who wanted a rundown of the corruption scandals. Well there you go.

    •  But I thought (1+ / 0-)
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      that Ted Strickland is the greatest governor in the history of Ohio.  That's what Lee Fisher claimed.

  •  Correction for you (7+ / 0-)

    It was Warren Harding, not Hoover, who was from Ohio and had the Teapot Dome scandal.

    I think that I have had enough of you telling me how things will be. Today I choose a new way to go ... and it goes through you!

    by Norbrook on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 06:00:03 AM PST

  •  I'm from Ohio (8+ / 0-)

    And Strickland is STILL better than Kasich.

    Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

    by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 06:04:24 AM PST

    •  And Corzine was better than Christie (3+ / 0-)
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      but the leaders of openly corrupt administrations don't win. If you don't want Kasich as governor, work to get Strickland off the Democratic ticket.

      •  We're not NJ (1+ / 0-)
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        Its not going to be a blowout, but Strickland is still going to take it with 51-52% of the vote.

        Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

        by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 06:10:00 AM PST

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        •  Yeah, NJ had a third Republican running (2+ / 0-)
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          who drained away some of Christie's votes. And NJ is a more Democratic state than Ohio. And Corzine had more deniability in the scandals than Strickland does. And there was no left-wing move to drain votes from Corzine as there is now in Ohio.

          Strickland has zero chance. Zero. He may lose in his home county.

          •  Kasich wants to cut the state budget by 30% (0+ / 0-)

            on TOP of Strickland's already draconian cuts, and Strickland is going to get to tie that around his neck like an anvil.

            When the choice is a crook or someone who is going to drastically cut the budget of social services you depend on the voters are going to go with the crook each and every time.

            51-52% Strickland win. Bet on it.

            Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

            by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 06:55:41 AM PST

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            •  No. That's what YOU wish that Kasich would say (0+ / 0-)

              But Kasich is a smart guy. He hasn't actually released his budget plan yet, and when he does, it's not going to look like the one that Strickland supporters are now projecting.

              It's a set up. When voters do hear Kasich's budget plan, they are just going to think that Strickland lied yet again.

              Not even clear that Otto will stay in the race. I predicts he drops out, he's smart too.

              •  He's on record for the 30% cut. (0+ / 0-)

                Oh, he backpeddled later, sure, but that's nothing a good spin doctor can't fix.

                When Kasich releases a budget plan, Strickland can hit him with the 30% cut he's on record as supporting and then Kasich looks like the liar.

                People just aren't going to take a chance on the services they depend on being cut that much.

                Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

                by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 07:09:05 AM PST

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                •  Um, just a little problem (0+ / 0-)

                  If PAST budget proposals count, then Strickland is on the hook for TWO Cook-the-Books proposals that were both struck down by the Supreme Court.

                  Counting former budget proposals is the LAST thing that Strickland wants to put on the table. Kasich has a totally clear slate to make his chosen moves.

                  •  Sorry (1+ / 0-)
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                    Maybe its different in the rest of the state, but here in Mahoning County I can promise you that no one gives a damn about past proposals of Strickland's and the Supreme court.

                    Not when they're faced with someone who wants to gut the services they depend on- and has gone on record about that (even with subsequent attempts to cover his ass later).

                    Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

                    by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 07:23:09 AM PST

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            •  Kasich is a Bush styled crook (0+ / 0-)

              Even a conservative blogger thinks that Kasich will
              raise taxes.

              And Ted Strickland does have support of pro-business groups.

              •  Both parties just agreed to cancel tax cuts (1+ / 0-)
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                in the state budget compromise. The Republican Senate won that standoff, hands down, and Kasich will follow the Senate position.

                If you want to stop Kasich, get Strickland off the ticket.

                •  There is no way to get Strickland off the ticket (0+ / 0-)

                  And I refuse to accept that that means governor Kasich.

                  Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

                  by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 07:35:40 AM PST

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                  •  Sure there is (0+ / 0-)

                    Strickland has the best polling resources in the state. He's a smart man. He knows he's cooked. Why do you think that he's waited so long to launch his campaign?

                    Look, the fact is that a very large fraction of the Democratic Party has committed itself to NEVER CAST ANOTHER VOTE FOR TED STRICKLAND.

                    You are not going to sway us, and we have the power to swing that race. And we demand that Strickland get off the ticket.

                    We'll support Lee Fisher for Governor, allowing Brunner a clear shot against Portman.

                    The choice is between a guaranteed loss of both top races, and a possible win of the Senate race. That's the only choice, because of Strickland's history.

                    Deal with it.

                    •  So despite the fact (1+ / 0-)
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                      that not voting for Strickland will put Kasich in charge and thus damage the state you still don't plan to do it.

                      God save us all from those who are willing to turn state and country over to the truly evil because they're mad the other choice is sucky.

                      Strickland's not getting off the ticket, and turning over the state to the truly evil because of that is insanity.

                      Deal with it.

                      Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

                      by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 07:49:27 AM PST

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                      •  You are turning the state over to the truly evil (0+ / 0-)

                        by refusing to hold Democrats accountable to minimal standards of truth and decency.

                        Plus you sabotage the Senate race and all down-ballot races, only because you hold to to some fantasy delusion about Ted Strickland.

                        The voters in Ohio are too smart to swallow those lies.

                        Don't you dare blame us. Blame the man and the party apparatus that created this problem.

                        There are times when the head of the party MUST be deposed. We are at that point in Ohio.

                        •  Youre welcome to your effort (0+ / 0-)

                          But when it fails, and it will fail- if you dont suck it up and vote for Strickland your are every bit to blame for the damage done by Kasich as Kasich himself.

                          And we are NOT at that point. You're proposing a cure that will kill the patient. The patient needs to recover far more before we can attempt such a surgery.

                          Count me OUT.

                          Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

                          by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 09:40:56 AM PST

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                          •  Twist enough arms and you break some (0+ / 0-)

                            Those people don't vote for you. Call that the golden rule of politics, and Strickland broke the rule.

                            You sound just like lots of Corzine supporters in New Jersey.

                          •  And after a year or two of Christie (0+ / 0-)

                            I guarantee you that people like you in NJ, who withheld their vote for Corzine will tell you it was one of the greatest mistakes in their life and if they had it to do over they'd make sure Corzine got it, just to spare the state the suffering they'll see all around them.

                            Freedom of speech does not mean the freedom to lie without consequence; unless, apparently if you're a right wing talk-radio host.

                            by Whimsical on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42:07 AM PST

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                  •  Not only that (1+ / 0-)
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                    he's in full campaign mode and getting enthusiastic support up here in Cuyahoga — ∑here most of the votes are. I don't know what's happening down Ohiobama's way in Pike or Scioto, but look them up and compare the population and the number of votes. I think my neighborhood has more votes than both combined.

                    Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com/

                    by anastasia p on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 07:47:01 AM PST

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                    •  Kasich is a disaster to Ohio (1+ / 0-)
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                      Here is Democratic Governors Association on Kasich:

                         John Kasich, the former Republican House Budget Committee Chairman, is earning vehement bipartisan disapproval for his current unrealistic budget plans.

                         Kasich’s state budget proposals have been derided as "pie in the sky"1 ideas that would be "radioactive in the legislature."2 He has suggested completely eliminating the state income tax – which makes up about a third of the state’s revenue – at a time when Ohio is facing revenue shortfalls in the hundreds of millions. Even fellow Republicans like Rob Portman, George Bush’s budget director, say Kasich’s proposal is "not a good idea."3 In fact, Kasich has avoided answering hard questions about his proposal, according to a senior editor at the Columbus Dispatch: "If you’re looking for answers from Kasich on how he might lead the state through a budget crisis, don’t bother. ‘I’m not messing in that,’ [Kasich] told reporters...Instead of answers, Kasich offers an unrealistic plan."4

                         Just before he offered this budget plan, Kasich was making as much as a million dollars a year5 while working on the leadership team that drove Wall Street firm Lehman Brothers into bankruptcy and sparked the tumble into this recession. He’s directly associated with the very practices that forced the government to bail out other Wall Street firms and pushed the economy over the edge, such as bad derivatives and credit swaps.6

                         Earlier in his career, when he was leading the House Budget Committee and running for the Republican nomination for President, Kasich used the budget process to promote GOP orthodoxy and boost his aspirations for higher office. "By using the budget to promote tax and spending cuts far bigger than were called for in (1998’s) balanced budget deal, Kasich...created a situation in which for the first time in 24 years, Congress failed to pass a budget resolution."7

                    •  The idiotic population argument again (0+ / 0-)

                      For the umpteenth time, population density is irrelevant. Because Ohio is nearly evenly divided between red and blue, it only matters where the swing voters are. The swing regions are the south central area centered at Pike, and the southwest suburbs of Dayton. Strickland is bombing in both those areas, and in traditional Democratic strongholds like Athens County and the eastern border.

                      That's why he's finished. Cuyahoga has practically no swing voters, it's irrelevant.

    •  And Strickland will beat Kasich (1+ / 0-)
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      Keep in mind that this diarist has an obsessive hatred of Strickland and finds negative in everything  he says and does.

      Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com/

      by anastasia p on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 07:46:01 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Keep in mind that this poster (0+ / 0-)

        has been spinning her flowers & fairies version of the Democratic Party for years, resorting to pure ad hominem attack when she runs out of arguments.

        She also predicted that Corzine would win in NJ, which ought to tell you where this ends up.

        •  And keep in mind, also (0+ / 0-)

          That this diarist has been caught, red handed inventing quotes from Vic Wulsin in the past and is pushing a Blue Dog, pro-oil, self-described "Reagan conservative" Democratic candidate in the Second Congressional.

          •  No you mean that YOUR candidate (0+ / 0-)

            was caught red-handed and forced to withdraw from the OH-02 race. How conveniently you overlook that.

            So now you attack THE ONLY DEMOCRAT LEFT IN THE OH-02 RACE -- effectively shilling for Jean Schmidt.

            Oh, and you're a former Strickland staff aide, which you failed to mention YET AGAIN.

            Pathetic times ten.

    •  Want Strickland to win? (0+ / 0-)

      Here's the campaign slogan... "Remember Bob Taft???"

  •  Could you add this link to the K +9 poll? (1+ / 0-)
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    It was the 12/7/09 poll by Rasmussen which had Kasich +9 I believe.

    no remuneration was received by anyone for the writing of this message

    by ItsSimpleSimon on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 06:29:11 AM PST

  •  different perspective (2+ / 0-)
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    I live in Cuyahoga county and no one ties Ted Strickland to county's corruption. Yes, Strickland's numbers are sliding but so are almost all the incumbent's numbers in the country. It has more to do with recession related general environment than anything else. Quinnipiac's last poll had Strickland in 40 - 40 tie with Kasich. There is still long way to go to election day. It is very simple.. if economy and job situation improves by November then Ted Strickland gets reelected and Lee Fisher/Jennifer Brunner becomes next Democratic senator from Ohio. Yes there are some county level issues in some counties but next election is all about economy!

    The difference between this year and 2006 was that the republicans like gov Taft were associated with corruption and scandals like Coin-gate. But no one thinks that Ted Strickland is corrupt.

    •  Just you wait (0+ / 0-)

      You think the GOP is going to shoot it's wad in December of 2009?  Strickland hasn't even started to campaign yet, the candidates are not engaged.

      By the summer of 2010, that Cuyahoga mess is going to be dripping from every pore on Strickland's face. Kasich is going to make him eat Cuyahoga County.

      And all the rest of the state has heard is that Strickland refuses to call for the officials' resignations. We know exactly what that means.

  •  I Really Want Brunner to Win (2+ / 0-)
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    A person born on the date that Lee Fisher last won a statewide race in Ohio in his own right will be old enough to vote in 2010.

  •  Ohio Dems slammed constantly in East Ohio (1+ / 0-)
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    and considering that the Nutting family owns every newspaper from Youngstown to Marietta, that's not going to change any time soon.

    Every week, there's at least 3 editorials blaming everything that's every happened in Ohio history on Democrats.

    I think Strickland is toast, Space will lose (which pisses me off), and Chabot might win back the OH-01. As Belmont, Monroe, and Jefferson Counties become more red, the Democrats will lose more often in Ohio.

    •  Space will win in 2010 because he's clean (0+ / 0-)

      The clean Dems will survive, but they have to learn to put distance between Strickland and themselves. Anyone tied to Strickland will go down.

      •  Don't be so sure (0+ / 0-)

        Space is losing votes in Belmont and Guernsey Counties. The Wheeling and Martins Ferry newspaper (Ogden-owned) constantly slam him. He even got berated and attacked for supporting the hate crimes bill.

        People here think he's evil for supporting Cap and Trade. Democratic numbers in this once-reliably Democratic counties are tanking as more and more union jobs are lost and union members leave. Therefore, I'm very pessimistic about his prospects in 2010.

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