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Research 2000 for Daily Kos. 5/17-19. Likely voters. (3/8-10 results)

Republican Gubernatorial primary, likely Republican voters, MoE 5%

Meg Whitman (R) 46 (52)
Steve Poizner (R) 36 (19)
Undecided 18 (29)

Clearly, the avalanche of negative campaign ads in both directions has taken more luster off of Whitman than Poizner. Not only has he managed to drag Whitman back under the 50% threshold, but he has also, it would seem, mopped up most of those undecided voters.

Between the two of them, they could conceivably spend close to $100 million in the primary alone. Despite that, both Republicans continue to trail the all-but-certain Democratic nominee, former Governor Jerry Brown.

General Election--Governor, likely voters, MoE 4% (3/8-10 in parentheses)

Jerry Brown (D) 46 (45)
Meg Whitman (R) 42 (41)
Undecided 18 (29)

Jerry Brown (D) 47 (48)
Steve Poizner (R) 37 (33)
Undecided 16 (19)

Apparently, self-funding to the tune of eight figures, in a state like California, still cannot buy a Republican a lead, even against a campaign that seems like it has only spent about eight dollars.

Poizner has improved his primary and general position a little bit with his rather feisty campaign, but his favorabilities are scarcely different now than they were in March. Indeed, if there is an intriguing stat in the gubernatorial polling, it is the fact that the favorabilities for all three candidates have barely moved:

Favorable/Unfavorable (3/8-10 in parentheses)
Jerry Brown (D): 48/43 (52/40)
Meg Whitman (R): 47/38 (51/35)
Steve Poizner (R): 39/43 (37/40)

Whitman's dip can easily be attributed to the fact that Poizner has spent several million dollars attacking her since the last time we polled the race (Whitman had used some of her massive February ad buy to dump a pre-emptive strike on Poizner). Brown's sag can also be attributed to advertising--state buisness interests have run a smattering of ads jumping on Brown. Since Brown is not on the air (and not, it seems, doing much of anything), the attacks have been the only voice in the room about the Democratic frontrunner. Hence, the seven point drop in his net favorabilities.

Meanwhile, over on the Senate side, the DK/R2K poll has a different take on the GOP primary than most other polling we have seen this week. Most have the election as a toss-up, and one even had Carly Fiorina edging into the lead. Our poll, on the other hand, continues to show former Congressman Tom Campbell with a modest, but real, lead over Fiorina and teabagger favorite Chuck DeVore.

Republican Senate primary, likely Republican voters, MoE 5%

Tom Campbell (R) 37 (33)
Carly Fiorina (R) 22 (24)
Chuck DeVore (R) 14 (7)
Undecided 27 (36)

Fiorina's biggest liability appears to be with male voters, where she lags behind not only Campbell, but also DeVore. Fiorina runs stronger with female Republicans, but not decisively so (she holds down just 27% of the vote, still lagging behind Campbell's 33%).

Part of the problem for Fiorina is that the GOP gubernatorial tilt is sucking up an awful lot of the oxygen in the state. The incessant air war between Whitman and Poizner, especially when paired with the growing narrative that Whitman is stumbling towards the finish line, has relegated the Senate race to the back burner.

In potential general election trial heats with incumbent Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer, the race has essentially been frozen since March. This is, all in all, pretty good news for the Senator, who holds leads of 7-9 points against all comers.

General Election--U.S. Senator, likely voters, MoE 4%

Barbara Boxer (D) 47 (47)
Tom Campbell (R) 40 (43)
Undecided 13 (10)

Barbara Boxer (D) 48 (49)
Carly Fiorina (R) 39 (40)

Barbara Boxer (D) 47 (49)
Chuck DeVore (R) 38 (39)

The primaries are now less than three weeks away, as the ballots will be cast on June 8th.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:25 AM PDT.

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  •  California where men are men (12+ / 0-)

    and the sheep Demonsheep are scared scary

    Afghanistan:Graveyard to empires-It's not just a bumpersticker

    by JML9999 on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:28:05 AM PDT

    •  Dump Brown (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Shockwave

      the men don't have to be old retreads.

      I miss Johnny Rook and Ormond Otvos.

      by Nulwee on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:41:21 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  There is a perfectly good alternative to Brown (4+ / 0-)

        Peter Schurman

        A progressive candidate who can make a difference.

        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        Peter Schurman

        Dailykos.com; an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action -1.75 -7.23

        by Shockwave on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:20:32 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  who isn't seasoned enough (4+ / 0-)

          or has name recognition enough to win... (could he spoil the race and put GOP back in governor's office 2010? ) Schurman would be good Congressman does he plan on running after he loses?

          CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

          by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:47:22 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  At least he is not "overdone" like Jerry (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            Churchill

            And name recognition could change if we give him some visibility here.

            Peter will be around in California politics.  He is young, energetic, extremely well informed on all the issues, charismatic, progressive.

            What else do you need?

            Dailykos.com; an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action -1.75 -7.23

            by Shockwave on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:57:16 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  talk to twenty something (3+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              Shockwave, Churchill, flhiii88

              career working people.... they like Jerry Brown even though, in your words he is 'overdone' and 72 years old... I was surprised to find that he is likely to get young twenty something voters... Meg Whitman/S. Poizner might get new first time 18 year old voters  with the same approach that got the 18 year old voters to support Arnuld in 2003 recall campaign... not enough experience to know better

              CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

              by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 11:03:26 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Jerry Brown: 72 going on 45, energetic, visionary (2+ / 0-)
                Recommended by:
                Geotpf, anyname

                Palin's circlin & Beck's cryin; Limbaugh's druggin & Hannity's lyin; O'Reilly's hollerin & the GOP's dyin; ALSO; Tax Cuts

                by Churchill on Fri May 21, 2010 at 11:54:18 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

              •  Nice age-card at play there, anyname (0+ / 0-)

                Young people are the most democratic-voting group in history.

                It was old-white voters and Baby boomer white voters that put Arnold in Sacramento.

                Don't obfuscate or tip-toe around it by trying to blame the kids.

                I miss Johnny Rook and Ormond Otvos.

                by Nulwee on Fri May 21, 2010 at 12:06:37 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  if I had the time I'd post (0+ / 0-)

                  the Brown-gov race poll that broke down the groups I mentioned that support my comment

                  you have a suspicious mind to call my comment age care play..... and then you use the work obfuscate....

                  and then you said I was trying to blame kids....

                  one you can't be from Ca.

                  because any one from CA has to have a forgiving nature because the kids in 2003 came out and gave us Arnuld... and by big numbers so did the rest of the Dem base.... all idiots or temporarily on some
                  euphoria substance in any case

                  you are rude

                  CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

                  by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 02:36:27 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

        •  I wish this kid was 45; he's got a big future (0+ / 0-)

          Palin's circlin & Beck's cryin; Limbaugh's druggin & Hannity's lyin; O'Reilly's hollerin & the GOP's dyin; ALSO; Tax Cuts

          by Churchill on Fri May 21, 2010 at 11:54:56 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Dump Brown (0+ / 0-)

          Ask yourself ,as Atty. General what has Jerry Brown done for consumers? Ok as you think ,think really hard ,you have the answer .You don't know because as AG Brown has been missing in action. The state needed (past tense)  a strong AG to go after the scammers that robbed California. Did Brown do that? MMM  we know the answer.

      •  The Brown campaign is nonexistant (2+ / 0-)
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        paradox, Nulwee

        ...gives me very little hope they will be competitive in the general.

        Can anyone explain to me why I should vote FOR Brown, as opposed to voting against the (R) candidate?

        Absent this, I'm voting for the Schurman on June 6th.

        --
        Make sure everyone's vote counts: Verified Voting

        by sacrelicious on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:25:47 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Anybody who wants to be Cali Gov isn't qualified (8+ / 0-)

    for that office because they're nuts to want it.  

    Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

    by Jonze on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:28:48 AM PDT

  •  Meg Whitman has imploded here in CA, thanks to (18+ / 0-)

    over-spending and saturating the TV so much that everyone I talked to ended up HATING HER GUTS.

    It's called overkill, Meggie.  Glad you wasted so much of your ill-gotten gains.

    Jerry Brown and Barbara Boxer are gonna win these races, IMHO.  

    I'm gonna work my ass off GOTV.

    I guess President Obama meant it when he said he was just getting started!

    by Little Lulu on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:29:51 AM PDT

  •  Any word on how Prop 16 is polling? (11+ / 0-)

    If anyone here doesn't yet know, it's one of the worst ideas ever -- bankrolled solely by PG&E, which will be its sole beneficiary.  There is no organized opposition, so we need to rely on word of mouth.

    Filled with personal agendas, egotistical drama queen, community tossed aside; still twittering RL_Miller

    by RLMiller on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:30:57 AM PDT

  •  Love to see this! (2+ / 0-)
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    Pangloss, mahakali overdrive
    I crack up watching those two battle it out on the airwaves, while Brown hasn't had to spend a dime.
  •  California is practically ungovernable (3+ / 0-)

    because of the budgeting rules, propositions, etc.

    Gray Davis got screwed because of Enron.  Arnie found out pretty quick that enacting GOP rhetoric would sink the state like a rock.  Now you've got Jerry Brown coming back for more, 30+ years after he was first elected.

    Crazy.

    "Just because I'm skinny doesn't mean I'm not tough" --Barack Obama, Oct. 26, 2009

    by Pangloss on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:33:40 AM PDT

  •  It's bad enough that you have to govern (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mahakali overdrive, anyname

    a crazy state with impossible rules and lunatic factions.

    But on top of it, you have to live in Sacramento.

    "Just because I'm skinny doesn't mean I'm not tough" --Barack Obama, Oct. 26, 2009

    by Pangloss on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:35:37 AM PDT

    •  Best sandwich in the world is in Sacramento.... (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      tmo, anyname

      La Bonne Soupe Cafe - a one man show from a fantastic French chef who makes every sandwich from scratch. The lines are long and slow, but by God you will not forget it.

    •  better to govern from Sacto in a state that (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      anyname

      should be divided north/south for bioregionally(sic) appropriate reasons.

      "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

      by annieli on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:52:36 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Not true these days (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Pd, annieli

        because of urban sprawl the "dividing lines" are extremely blurry.  The state is becoming one megalopolous. As someone who grew up in the south part but now lives in the north part, I say the whole North v. South arguments are ridiculous and overblown.  

        My Karma just ran over your Dogma

        by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:14:01 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  of course but that doesn't stop the attempts (0+ / 0-)

          There have been at least 26 different proposals to split California.

          Perhaps the most radical suggestion, and also done facetiously, would make California a separate nation. This proposal was the brainchild of San Jose Mercury newsman Ted Bredt, who noted that California's resources and financial potential were larger than those of many nations.

          California. Legislature. Assembly. Office of Research.. 1992. Two new Californias: an equal division : historical and financial analysis. Sacramento, CA: Assembly Publications Office.

          DiLeo, Michael, and Eleanor Smith. 1983. Two Californias: the truth about the split-state movement. Covelo, CA: Island Press.  

          "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

          by annieli on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:19:41 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Coastal vs Inland is the real split nowadays (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          tmo, annieli

            There are differences between the SF Bay Area and L.A. (like Dodgers vs Giants) but the politics are more similar than either is to the Central Valley or mountain counties. There are exceptions to the rule--Orange County is still more conservative than other parts of the coastal megalopolis, and Alpine and Mono Counties vote more progressive than other rural counties. But of course hardly anyone lives in Alpine or Mono and they are a bunch of DFH ski bums...

          I'm not a Limousine Liberal; I am a Prius Progressive

          by Zack from the SFV on Fri May 21, 2010 at 11:22:37 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  There is NO WAY IN HELL that Brown (4+ / 0-)

    has spent eight bucks on his campaign.

    It's like two bucks and change. Period.

    P.S. If we get another Republican Governor, I will probably shoot myself. Of course I'll probably be too busy dying of poverty to have to shoot myself. There they go, saving costs again. Someone tell Jerry Brown to get in the effing race.

    "Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." -- MLK Jr.

    by mahakali overdrive on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:36:47 AM PDT

  •  Go, Jerry Brown, Go (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mahakali overdrive, annieli

    because God help us if one of those Republican clowns ends up California's Governor with the mess the state is already in as it is.

  •  Boxer-Campbell-Inhofe (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    AllanTBG, davehouck, anyname

    Tom Campbell is the only Repub who could theoretically beat Boxer.

    What the Dems will do - or those of us who can speak -
    will be to emphasize the consequences for the state if the Dems lose the Senate.

    Boxer will be replaced as chair of the powerful Committee On The Environment and Public Policy by none other than James Inhofe.

    Given Boxer's unwavering support for investments in renewable energy and R&D into alternative energy technology, and Inhofe's opposition to it, the state would lose massively.

    Then throw in the possibility that McConnell would be replaced by DeMint as majority leader, the conclusion is that no matter how moderate Campbell is, the consequences would be disastrous.

    That's the message to get out.

    •  being replaced (0+ / 0-)

      by Inhofe should be enough to GOTV if Rose-Boxer's campaign manager gets the message out

      CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

      by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:41:56 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I am just absolutely in disbelief (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    esquimaux, annieli

    I grew up in California, lived there from 1969 to 2003 with a few years away at college in the 80s.  And I am absolutely gobsmacked that it is really possible for Jerry Brown to be elected governor again.

    Anybody else grow up in CA in the 70s and know what I'm talking about?  This is just amazing to me.

    "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression." -Thomas Paine

    by sierrak9s on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:41:56 AM PDT

    •  Not really. He got a bad rep when the press (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Geotpf, FoundingFatherDAR, GlowNZ, annieli

      referred to him as "Gov Moonbeam" because of his innovative idea of having an orbiting satellite over California to improve intrastate communication.  

      "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

      by sfcouple on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:46:10 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Is THAT what "Gov Moonbeam" was about? (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        tmo, annieli

        Of course I remember the whole "Moonbeam" thing, but I was an adolescent at the time and didn't pay attention.  

        "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression." -Thomas Paine

        by sierrak9s on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:50:54 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  satellite may refer to Plymouth he drove instead (0+ / 0-)

          of the state limo and of course his mattress on the floor in his one bedroom apartment where he lived instead of the Governor's mansion. Actually it referred to the sixth largest global economy having its own scientific and technological infrastructure.

          "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

          by annieli on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:57:08 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  radical concepts are not impossible (0+ / 0-)

            Brown's 1980 platform, which he declared to be the natural result of combining Buckminster Fuller's visions of the future and E.F. Schumacher's theory of "Buddhist economics", was much expanded from 1976. Gone was his "era of limits" slogan, replaced by a promise to, in his words, "Protect the Earth, serve the people, and explore the universe." Three main planks of his platform were a call for a constitutional convention to ratify the Balanced Budget Amendment, a promise to increase funds for the space program, and, in the wake of the 1979 Three Mile Island accident, opposition to nuclear power.

            "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

            by annieli on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:02:48 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

          •  Gov Brown was also in favor of Universal (4+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            tmo, Anne Elk, annieli, anyname

            Health Care and referred to the Health Care Insurance problem as something like "Medical Arms Race."  He was socially very liberal and maybe a little ahead of his time.  He is a good solid progressive candidate that will definitely get my vote.

            "It took us a couple of days because I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." President Barack Obama 3/24/09

            by sfcouple on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:06:02 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  what a radical concept; geosynchronous orbits n/t (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        anyname

        "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

        by annieli on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:53:36 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  What's wrong with that (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        tmo, annieli

        Australia has half the population of CA and has its own satellite. At the time, it was probably a pretty forward-looking thing to do. I like Brown.

    •  everybody I know can't stand (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      tmo, sierrak9s

      the idea of Meg Whitman ( third term of Schwarzenegger - Hoover Institute driven shock doctrine capitalism ) as governor

      or the idea of Steve Poziner CEO Capitalism - a vote for Steve is 'vote for unemployment' as governor

      update your info on Jerry as CA Atty. General because he would be a good next governor to follow the Arnuld mess

      CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

      by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:10:11 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Wait, don't misunderstand (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        davehouck, anyname

        Maybe I didn't express it well -- probly didn't -- but nowhere in my amazement and disbelief is there disapproval of the idea.  I honestly don't know enough to have a strong opinion either way, except that any Dem at this point is better than any alternative, frankly.

        I am just really amazed that he's electable, is all.  Not because I personally think he shouldn't be, but because of the mockery I remember from the 70's.

        "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression." -Thomas Paine

        by sierrak9s on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:17:58 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  he has been on side of consumers (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          annieli

          as Atty. General as far as I know the public is aware of him doing so... he should campaign on his good record there to let the VOTING public know that he really worked the job very well...

          CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

          by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:21:43 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  What happened... (0+ / 0-)

    to the undecided numbers when Boxer is matched up against Fiorina and DeVore?

  •  Campbell's mentor - Milton Friedman (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    esquimaux, annieli

    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    Tom Campbell running for Senator Barbara Boxer's seat

    Campbell:

    Born in Chicago, Campbell obtained his B.A. and M.A. degrees from the University of Chicago (1973), a J.D. from Harvard Law School (1976) and then a subsequent Ph.D. in economics from the University of Chicago (1980).[1] He served as a clerk to U.S. Supreme Court Justice Byron White from 1977 to 1978 and, the year before that, for U.S. Court of Appeals Judge George E. MacKinnon. His mentor was Milton Friedman. He was raised in a Democratic family, but became a Republican during college.

    CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

    by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:44:07 AM PDT

  •  Not to be picky, but (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    tmo, davehouck

    Jerry Brown (D) 46 (45)
    Meg Whitman (R) 42 (41)
    Undecided 18 (29)

    Does this mean that 6% of the voters are both undecided AND for one of the candidates (46% + 42% + 18% = 106%).  Or maybe that they're for both candidates?

  •  Election night dreaming (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    tmo, calichristi

    On election night, I would laugh my head off if both the GOP's overhyped self-funding candidates, Whitman and Fiorina, both lost their primaries.

    You have the power to change America. Yes We Can. Yes We Did. Yes We Will.

    by CA Pol Junkie on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:48:37 AM PDT

    •  I would only laugh my head off if (0+ / 0-)

        the winner of the GOP Senate primary is Chuck "Q: Is He Not Man? A: He is" DEVOre!!

        That would be entertaining, however unlikely. Then Babs would be as safe as Schumer and I could send all my Senate contributions to Sestak and Hodes and Conway...

      I'm not a Limousine Liberal; I am a Prius Progressive

      by Zack from the SFV on Fri May 21, 2010 at 11:32:04 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Brown could campaign on consumer protection (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    sfcouple

    this isn't the only consumer protection he has championed as Atty. General as far as I know he has been doing good job for the people of CA since he won that office:

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/...

       

    "This company was just a boiler room, long on promises and upfront fees but short on foreclosure relief," ... "Its operators cruelly defrauded citizens trying valiantly to hang on to their homes" - CA Attorney General Jerry Brown

       

    Five San Fernando Valley men are being sought in connection with an elaborate home-loan modification scheme that defrauded 1,500 homeowners out of $2.3 million, state prosecutors said Thursday.

       Four of the suspects were owners of bogus companies called Mason Capital Group and Gretchen Fox and Associates, according to a statement released by state Attorney General Jerry Brown. The fifth was identified as a salesman.

       During an investigation launched in March 2009, authorities determined that the companies duped homeowners facing foreclosure into paying fees of $1,500 to $5,000 for mortgage modification services that were never provided.

       Instead, the fees went to pay private school tuition, travel, entertainment, shopping and other personal expenses, prosecutors said.

    CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

    by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:48:40 AM PDT

    •  He could campaign on anything (0+ / 0-)

      But he has not.  Right this second terrible cuts are taking place because of screwed up taxation.  Where is the Democratic leader to uphold principle for the little people?
      Where?

      [spits]

      The campaign of an over-cautions coward, so classic of the modern career politician.

      We don't need technocrats.  We don't need careerists.  We need liberals for the little people.

      Good luck, Jerry.

  •  A few people I knew in High School have gone (0+ / 0-)

    somewhere I did not. A few I have found recently on FaceBook are supporting Chuck DeVore. Seems that a real big anti-immigration push, reduce the numbers of legals back to 1950 numbers theme, is part of the attraction.

    There have been others where we have picked right up like it was yesterday. That is what happens when you lose touch for thirty years. When Jerry Brown was voting for President I had just moved east and voted, the one and only time in Md, for him in the primary.

    Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices -- François-Marie Arouet

    by CA Berkeley WV on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:52:12 AM PDT

  •  Undecideds breaking for Poisener: more to come? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    anyname

    asdf

  •  RASMUSSEN says Sestak leads Toomey by 4% (0+ / 0-)

    Rasmussen, the evil prince of darkness of pollster, says that Sestak leads Toomey by 4%.

    A sure loss seat by Specter is now a likely win for Sestak and Democrats.  

    If Rasmussen's pro-GOP polling shows Sestak ahead, we are safe in believing it.  Additionally it's a PLUS 6% change for Sestak vs. Toomey.

  •  Boxer will win (3+ / 0-)
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    tmo, Zack from the SFV, sfcouple

    Campbell might give her a run for her money but she hasn't done anything crazy or extreme. I think she will win, but it will be close.

  •  isnt Boxer supposed to be trounced (0+ / 0-)

    in the election?   I dont see that happening, I guess it was all just right wing wishful thinkin?

    "why isn't FEMA considered Socialism?"

    by KnotIookin on Fri May 21, 2010 at 09:57:53 AM PDT

  •  e-Meg's latest ad shows her idiocy. (4+ / 0-)
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    tmo, sacrelicious, juturna, annieli
    She says she'll send CA National Guard to secure the borders?  Um, Meg honey, where are you going to get them?  The Governator couldn't even get enough NG to fight the massive wildfires all over the state a couple years ago because so many were out fighting the wars.  Not to mention it's ridiculous reasoning from someone who wants to cut govt. spending.  

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:07:57 AM PDT

    •  Maybe she means the California Militia? (1+ / 0-)
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      sacrelicious

      The California State Military Reserve (CSMR) is the state defense force of California. The military reserve was formed to provide California a trained and organized military force in the event of a state security emergency when the National Guard is deployed. Its current mission is to assist the National Guard especially in concern to homeland security.

      Article VII of the first California Constitution gave the Governor the power “to call for the militia, to execute the laws of the State, to suppress insurrections, and repel invasions.” In his annual address to the California Legislature on January 7, 1851, Governor Burnett highlighted significant events that transpired during 1850, including “repeated calls…upon the Executive for the aid of the militia to resist and punish the attacks of the Indians upon the frontier.” During 1850, Governor Burnett called out the militia two times. The first order was prompted by incidents at the confluence of the Gila and Colorado rivers on April 23, 1850; in response, the Governor ordered the sheriffs of San Diego and Los Angeles to organize a total of 100 men to “pursue such energetic measures to punish the Indians, bring them to terms, and protect the emigrants on their way to California.”

      "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

      by annieli on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:13:16 AM PDT

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  •  I really like Brown (3+ / 0-)
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    tmo, annieli, sfcouple

    Calling Whitman and Poizner "apostles of darkness and ignorance"? Gold. California is a mess and will stay that way. But Brown is a pretty direct, tough guy who may be just direct and tough enough to turn things around.

    Killing, or at least limiting, the stupid initiative system could be a good start. This is a system that changed the Constitution to specify the size of chicken cages but denied gays the right to marry. If that's not broken, I don't know what is.

    •   the next time you see a Prop 65 notice (2+ / 0-)
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      Zack from the SFV, annieli

      or visit a park that was funded by bonds approved via the initiative system, you may want to rethink that.

      Killing, or at least limiting, the stupid initiative system could be a good start.

      My Karma just ran over your Dogma

      by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:20:36 AM PDT

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      •  & I think Prop 13 when I see fewer arts pgms n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        "...calling for a 5" deck gun is not parody. Not by a long shot." (gnaborretni)

        by annieli on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:22:41 AM PDT

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      •  One swallow doesn't make a summer (2+ / 0-)
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        Just because you can point to one good thing doesn't make any difference to whether a system is a bad idea in total. The Loma Prieta earthquake caused the elimination of the Embarcadero freeway - a good thing. But are you really advocating earthquakes as a good system for urban renewal. You may want to rethink your logic. There are plenty of parks built with public funds that did not need some goofy initiative to make it happen.

      •  Prop 65 warnings are stupid (2+ / 0-)
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        CA Pol Junkie, sacrelicious

        Prop 65 Warning: This is a parking lot.  Parking lots have oil spils in them, a chemical that the state of California has determined causes cancer.

        Prop 65 Warning: This is beach.  Beachs have sand, which contains silica, a chemical that the state of California has determined causes cancer.

        Prop 65 Warning: This is a chicken restraunt.  Grilled chicken contains PhIP, a chemical that the state of California has determined causes cancer.

        •  ...usually (0+ / 0-)

          There are some cases where companies have actually made products safer to avoid the label.  Mostly, the signs are stating the obvious.

          You have the power to change America. Yes We Can. Yes We Did. Yes We Will.

          by CA Pol Junkie on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:58:52 AM PDT

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          •  The problem is is that there's... (0+ / 0-)

            ...no measuring of real world risks.  If there's a small amount of something that might cause cancer if a thousand pounds were snorted up your nose, you have to put up a sign.  So the signs are everywhere, so everybody ignores them.  Completely useless.

  •  Whitman's sliping because she's mean, (1+ / 0-)
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    sfcouple

    it may be as simple as that. Poizner, despite his farther-right stance, sounds more reasonable when he talks. Jerry Brown is going to have a problem seeming like he is not light-weight in comparison, and that's a big problem for California because it will kill us. No education, no environment, no labor, no state.

    It's sad the Boxer has gotten no traction. Somebody tell me why. Tom Campbell is unreasonably popular; his solutions are as bad as any tea-partier but, like Poizner, he doesn't come across as a nut.

  •  Boxer i going to kick ass (2+ / 0-)
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    Churchill, Zack from the SFV

    Carly Fiorina is pro-outsourcing US jobs.  She thinks outsourcing is good for America!  Try running on that as a platform Carly.

    I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.

    by noofsh on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:24:54 AM PDT

    •  yep Boxer (1+ / 0-)
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      Zack from the SFV

      can campaign against the Fiorina lies that she is for job growth when the facts show she is for downsizing, and unemployment; her policy positions/tax positions/ GOP CEO Capitalist ideology would be just awful addition to the Senate.....

      CEO CAPITALISM: Steve Poizner & Meg Whitman's tax plans would only really serve "to benefit the wealthy and ultra rich." - David Kersten, Tax Analyst

      by anyname on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:53:40 AM PDT

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  •  How are CA's congressional races going? (2+ / 0-)
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    tmo, annieli

    Incumbent Geo. Miller (CA-7) has a challenger this year. I can't even imagine...

    "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

    by Sybil Liberty on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:24:54 AM PDT

  •  IT's telling that Poizner's ad describes him as (3+ / 0-)
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    tmo, Churchill, annieli

    "conservative businessman", with no mention of the political offices he's held.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:25:05 AM PDT

  •  Whitman's saturation campaigning (2+ / 0-)
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    tmo, Churchill

    appears to be pissing some people off. They are getting sick of her and it is still 5.5 months out. It is so bad that we shut the volume off on the radio when her ads come on. 10's of millions and all she is buying now is further aggravation of the listeners - chalkboard meet fingernails.

    The Ongoing Drama of Palin's Place - for your latest in faux outrage and professional victomhood.

    by delmardougster on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:28:52 AM PDT

    •  Her ads have gone from annoying to hilarious (0+ / 0-)

      For me at least, that one ad she's running against Poizner and how LIBERAL he is, and how he's just another LIBERAL politician, is hilarious. That must still be a red-flag label for Republicans, but geez for normal people, it just sounds stupid. It's like saying he's so THOUGHTFUL and GENEROUS! Is Whitman is trying to get Democrats to vote for Poizner?

      Californians: The Courage Campaign is working for changing the 2/3 budget rule and for ending Prop 8. Go!

      by tmo on Fri May 21, 2010 at 02:39:37 PM PDT

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  •  Hey Steve, any crosstabs? (0+ / 0-)

    tks

    Ok, so I read the polls.

    by andgarden on Fri May 21, 2010 at 10:43:46 AM PDT

  •  Supporting Boxer.... (1+ / 0-)
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    tmo

    Tom Campbell is the only Repub who could theoretically beat Boxer.
    What the Dems will do - or those of us who can speak - 
will be to emphasize the consequences for the state if the Dems lose the Senate.
    Boxer will be replaced as chair of the powerful Committee On The Environment and Public Policy by none other than James Inhofe.
    Given Boxer's unwavering support for investments in renewable energy and R&D into alternative energy technology, and Inhofe's opposition to it, the state would lose massively.
    Then throw in the possibility that McConnell would be replaced by DeMint as majority leader, the conclusion is that no matter how moderate Campbell is, the consequences would be disastrous.
    That's the message to get out.

  •  How Brown Can Win (0+ / 0-)

    Brown needs to pledge to serve only one term. And to stake his long political legacy on addressing the fiscal situation.

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