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A lot of Democrats are pondering why so many of their politicians lost to the Republicans last night, but the biggest "reasons" given — the base wasn't sufficiently enthusiastic about the party (which, while true, doesn't explain why it was unenthusiastic), voters are stupid, those damned Greens stole Democrat votes — do not reflect reality.

I am here to tell you that you didn't lose for the reasons you think.

You didn't lose because voters are stupid.

You didn't lose because Obama tried to do too much too soon.

You didn't lose because you were "too liberal."

You didn't lose because Greens or anyone else stole votes you never owned to begin with.

No, you lost for reasons having nothing to do with any of that, and everything to do with having chosen to embrace the Republican Agenda as your own.

You lost because voters are fed up with being lied to, promised change but given more of the same far right policies Bush and Cheney delivered for eight years.

You lost because Obama not only didn't achieve progressive goals; you lost because he went out of his way to help Republicans block them.

You lost because you passed a health insurance bill that was written by the insurance industry, for the insurance industry, and that still doesn't control prices or deliver access to health care.  45,000 people, probably more, will still die each year for lack of access to basic health care.

You lost because instead of going all out to pass a jobs bill that would, you know, create jobs, you wrote trillion-dollar checks to Wall Street with no strings attached — all at the taxpayers' expense.

You lost because when decades of deregulation finally led to the worst man-made environmental disaster in human history, you handed everything over to British Petroleum.  The Gulf of Mexico is still poisoned for generations to come, and oil companies are still free to drill without safety measures in place or consequences for ignoring them.

You lost because you refused to stand up for LGBT persons, abortion rights, homeowners in peril, laborers, women's rights, blacks, latinos, and every other left-wing demographic you pretended to support in order to get our votes.

You lost because you constantly berated, bullied, and insulted any and all who dared point out that Democrats were not living up to their campaign promises.

You lost because instead of even trying to pass a progressive agenda, you helped the Republicans pass theirs and then had the unmitigated gall to blame it all on the filibuster, even though you had a filibuster-proof majority and the GOP was able to pass its agenda without one the entire eight years Bush and Cheney were in power.

And you'll still continue do the same thing over and over again, expecting you'll get a different result.  Voters demanded change, and all you could be bothered to deliver was more of the same shit sandwich they've been force-fed these past thirty years, and especially the past ten — which means you'll continue to lose elections until the Democrats are relegated to a few obscure seats from remote parts of the country, and they don't come out of their holes except to meekly ask for just a little lube before being roughly fucked up their lily-white asses.

No one likes to be lied to, and no one likes being insulted.  We don't respond to bullying, and we won't vote for politicians who don't represent our interests.  Given the options of voting for people who screw us over all the time, staying home and not voting, or voting third party, more voters are choosing the latter two.  It has nothing to do with Democrats not being far enough to the right, or voters being stupid, or third parties being too unreasonably "pure" in their ideology.  It has, in fact, everything to do with Democrats being too stupid for mere words to adequately describe.

The GOP might think its base is the scum of the earth, but its politicians will never tell its voters that to their faces.  The Republicans don't believe a word of their own rhetoric, but they will fight tooth and nail to get the policies they want and they accept no compromises — or any prisoners, for that matter.  You never see the Republicans complain that their base is too ideologically pure.  They lost nominal power in '06 and '08 because their policies are destructive and voters wanted a change.  They regained it in '10 because the Democrats refused to deliver that change.  And when people are denied what they want, they will punish the politicians who denied it.  It is no coincidence that the majority of Democrats who lost last night made up half the Bush Dog bloc, while what passes for the left wing of the Democratic Caucus lost only three seats.

You've got the next two years to get your acts together, Democrats.  John Boehner has the articles of impeachment against Obama waiting in his desk drawer, ready to be brought out on January 21st.  You can sit back and continue berating your party's base, and lose it when you need it most, all the while letting the GOP do whatever it wants without trying to put up a fight.  Or you can wake up, fight tooth and nail to protect the public from corporations and religious lunatics, and finally embrace the left as your true base.  But the latter requires that you actually govern from the left, and if you want to win elections, you have to do it.

Otherwise, enjoy being a permanent minority in the halls of power, because that's all you'll ever be.

Originally posted to Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:19 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)

    "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

    by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:19:06 AM PDT

  •  Are you kidding me? (3+ / 0-)
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    viet vet, AKA potsi, Deep Texan

    Why'd you waste all those words "explaining" what can be summed up in one sentence: It's the economy, stupid.

    Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

    by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:20:17 AM PDT

    •  Because it's not just the economy. (3+ / 0-)
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      blueoasis, Shahryar, bluezen

      It's the wars, the trampling of our rights, the embracing of Bush-Cheney torture policies and the exceeding of them to target Americans for assassination, the neglect of the nation's infrastructure...I could go on for hours about everything it's all about, but I have laundry to wash and a paper to write up for class tomorrow.

      "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

      by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:25:15 AM PDT

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      •  You're right. (1+ / 0-)
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        Deep Texan

        It's not just the economy.  It's also the idiocy of a bunch of so-called "progressives" who'd rather the President accomplish nothing but soothing them with rhetoric and lies from the bully pulpit.  The fact that the 111th congress was one of the most productive in history is completely lost on a bunch of idiots who look to politicians (a.k.a. serial liars) to make them feel good, or who feel that politics is some kind of goddamned reality T.V. show, or who live in a "like" and "unlike" Facebook reality.

        This bullshit idea that politicians have to make people feel good in order for people to act in their own best interests is the reason progressives have been and will continue to be out of power for generations to come.  

        Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

        by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:35:44 AM PDT

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        •  What did the 111th Congress accomplish? (0+ / 0-)

          I guarantee you can't honestly point to a single good thing this Congress has gotten done that achieves anything good.

          "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

          by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:45:49 AM PDT

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          •  I've provided a link. (1+ / 0-)
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            Deep Texan

            Read it.  You didn't even know that most the Health Care bill did not pass using reconciliation, and that it's a real and durable law.  My advice to you: don't engage people in arguments with such a thin understanding of what went on for the last two years.  I know you didn't "feel good" and that for you feeling good is more important than understanding what's actually happening in Washington, but Nancy Pelosi's House passed every piece the administration's legislative agenda.  They passed health care with a public option, they passed a larger stimulus, they passed a repeal of DADT to name a few things.  And their reward?  Being ousted from power by the inaction of people who need to feel good more than they need actual accomplishments on their behalf.

            Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

            by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:51:20 AM PDT

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            •  Again, point to ONE thing they did. (0+ / 0-)

              Name one.  Just one.  What did the 111th Congress do that was so productive?  I'm asking for specific legislation, not dubious claims from party hacks.

              "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

              by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:54:19 AM PDT

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        •  Wow. You & I, fou, must be operating on (1+ / 0-)
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          Michael in Ohio

          the axiom of "great minds think alike" -- :) -- as far as our subject titles go, anyway!

          When I hit the post key, your's popped up and I thought, wow! did I double post?

          We certainly do diverge in opinions after that, tho!  I'm not really sure I grasp the point you're trying to make in (seeming to) attack progressives for being disappointed in what the administration has accomplished.

          I'm happy we got what we did, but I think the diarist is justified (as am I) in believing it could have been so much more if different strategies had been followed, specifically, not putting as much effort into bipartisanship as was done.

          The diarist sounds young, which accounts for his disappointment and (maybe) impatience, however, I'm not young, am running out of time, and would like to see a better outcome for this country and my kids before I exit the planet.  

          •  I'm thirty-six. (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm not old, but I'm no spring chicken, either.  And frankly, this whole planet is running out of time.  Did you know that the world's supply of phosphorous, a key component in fertilizer, will run out within forty years?  That's well within your kids' lifetimes.  If I live to be eighty, I'll go out when it's all hitting the fan and the whole of human society is collapsing.  I expect America to collapse much like Rome before the new decade is out.

            Yes, things are that bad.  It's much worse than any of us care to realize.

            "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

            by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:57:23 AM PDT

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            •  I've been saying we're headed for a violent (1+ / 0-)
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              Michael in Ohio

              revolution, for the past 25 yrs -- to myself, tho -- I'm not like Glenn Beck who wants to gin-up every disaffected voter within earshot.  It's a conclusion I came to back in St. Ronnie's day when the country's manufacturing base started disappearing practically overnight.

              Our economy is based on a false foundation right now and things cannot continue as they are, with consumer-driven debt as the engine that fuels all other sectors, such as they exist.  Dinosaur industries have a stranglehold on new ones and their lobbyists and prostitutes in Congress make sure it stays that way.

              And a comatose co-opted media helps keep the public blind, deaf, and dumb.

      •  You're right -- it's not just the economy, (1+ / 0-)
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        Michael in Ohio

        it's not moving fast enuf to fix what's broken.

        It's easy to preach patience to a sufferer, and that seems to be the administration's strategy -- hold tight and we'll get to you . . . after we help WS and Big Biz and keep funding wars we can't afford and giving aid to foreign countries instead of rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure here at home b/c we sure don't want to "insult" the Republicans and seem like we're instituting the agenda people who voted for us said they wanted . . . and the media criticism of us would be more than we could endure!!!

        We'll get to you guys in the middle class sometime in the future -- right now, you're way down on our list of priorities.

        •  Not fast enough? (0+ / 0-)

          Try not moving at all.  It's impossible to exaggerate how little Obama has even tried to accomplish, unless one realizes that his agenda was always to help the Republicans pass theirs, in which case he got quite a lot done after all.

          "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

          by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:44:15 AM PDT

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    •  They blew the first year on HCR when people (3+ / 0-)
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      NoMoreLies, bluezen, Michael in Ohio

      were looking for jobs. That's all. Unemployed people don't have health Insurance at the top of their list.I know I didn't when I was.

      •  Worst part is... (3+ / 0-)
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        NoMoreLies, shann, viet vet

        Instead of pushing for single-payer and maybe ending up with a strong public option, they began with a weak public option and settled for no more than a mandate, which Obama actually campaigned against two years ago because insurance is unaffordable.

        "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

        by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:30:48 AM PDT

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      •  Well, I agree with you (3+ / 0-)
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        that health care was very costly politically.  That's all we heard about for the first year of Obama's presidency.  However, if you're Obama, you're thinking to yourself that a 60-seat majority will only come about once in a generation, if that; and that health care is now or never.  I understand why they made the decision to go with it, and I think they made the right choice for the long term, but I agree that it's a good chunk of why they lost.

        Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

        by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:37:37 AM PDT

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        •  But... (1+ / 0-)
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          viet vet

          The Democrats ended up having to pass the bill through reconciliation anyway.  There was never a point at which a sixty-seat majority was ever going to be necessary to pass a bill.  So what we got was a dog-and-pony show that wasted a lot of time, exposed Obama as having sold us all out to the insurance industry, and that ultimately harmed women's rights as it limited abortion access.

          "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

          by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:42:25 AM PDT

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          •  My exact thoughts. (1+ / 0-)
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            Michael in Ohio

            They could do a Health Insurance gift if they wanted too.

          •  Wrong. (3+ / 0-)
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            GN1927, viet vet, Deep Texan

            The Democrats only had to pass part of the bill through reconciliation.  Recall that in the Senate, Reid was able to defeat the filibuster.  The house then passed that bill with reconciliation add-ons.  The core of the Health Care bill is a real and durable law.  It's not subject to the sunset restrictions of reconciliation.

            Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

            by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:45:07 AM PDT

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            •  Wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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              viet vet

              The bill had to pass the Senate through reconciliation.  Yes, the House amended it afterward, but the Senate still had to pass the bill through reconciliation because it couldn't be bothered to get an up-or-down vote otherwise.

              You don't know half as much as you pretend to.

              "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

              by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:59:18 AM PDT

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              •  I don't think so. (2+ / 0-)
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                GN1927, Deep Texan

                The bill had to pass the Senate through reconciliation.

                This statement is just factually incorrect.  The Democrats defeated a Republican filibuster in the Senate and passed a health care bill.  That bill then passed the House with assurances that it would be later amended through reconciliation in the House and Senate.  Recall that the House cast two votes (well actually, three but that's another matter): one one to pass the unreconciled Senate bill and another to pass the reconciliation amendments that then later passed the Senate.  The unreconciled portion of the bill is now the meat of the law, and it is not subject to any sunset provision.  Why do you think the yahoos are bothering to challenge it in court?  If it were passed via reconciliation, they could just let it expire.

                I watched every second of this process.  I 100% certain of what I'm talking about.  Go back and familiarize yourself with the record.

                Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

                by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:33:56 AM PDT

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                •  I know you don't. (0+ / 0-)

                  Nevertheless, you don't know half as much as you think you do about how the bill finally passed.  After-the-fact amendments helped solidify the bill's status as a law on the books until it is repealed, or overturned in the courts.  But it still had to pass the Senate through reconciliation.  It never went through the normal process in that legislative body because the Democrats coddled the Republicans by joining filibuster threats if it wasn't watered down sufficiently enough — and they still didn't get a single Republican vote.

                  Follow your own advice.  I watched the same sick process unfold, and you are spinning it to fit your interpretation.

                  "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

                  by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:40:48 AM PDT

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                  •  No I'm not. (0+ / 0-)

                    You initially said that the Health Care bill passed via reconciliation.  That is factually incorrect.  Of course passing the Senate version of the bill required assurances that it be amended via reconciliation, but that's very different than saying flatly that the entire bill passed via reconciliation.

                    The bill had to pass the Senate through reconciliation.

                    Not the initial bill.  Reid and the Democrats overcame a filibuster threat with sixty votes.  That bill then passed the House.

                    The fact is Democrats passed a durable Health Care law, with amendments passed through reconciliation.

                    Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

                    by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:59:36 AM PDT

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                    •  Sure you are. (0+ / 0-)

                      You demonstrated how little you choose to know about how the final health insurance bill was passed, and in an effort to avoid embarrassment, proceeded to spin things to the point where it became a lie.

                      "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

                      by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 02:49:43 PM PDT

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                      •  What lie? (0+ / 0-)

                        If you're going to accuse someone of lying, prove it.  Of course you can't, because I haven't lied.  You've asserted that I lied when I haven't either you're dense, or because you're the liar.

                        Oba-MA bumaye! Oba-MA bumaye!

                        by fou on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 03:16:32 PM PDT

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                        •  Let it not be said... (1+ / 0-)
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                          viet vet

                          Let it not be said that I can't admit to being wrong.  You were correct after all.  The Senate bill did, apparently, pass by a vote of 60-39, according to GovTrack.us.

                          I apologize for suggesting that you had lied.

                          "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

                          by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 06:02:18 PM PDT

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  •  they have this thing over at Soapopera central (0+ / 0-)

    where they merge threads that repeat the same topic. I wish Dkos would adopt that technology.

  •  Hm. (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    I dont buy a single word of it.

    WE, the Democrats, lost because George W Bush fucked the country up so severely that we actually won the right to try to fix it.

    WE havent been able to do that in two years, due in part to total obstruction by our opponents.

    It's the economy, and you are stupid.

    I am really enjoying my stimulus package.

    by Kevvboy on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:25:19 AM PDT

    •  Then enjoy what's coming. (0+ / 0-)

      Because you're not going to win elections by forever blaming Bush and Cheney.  At some point, you have to take ownership of the mess they made, and that requires fixing it — not kicking the proverbial can down the road and hoping voters are too stupid to notice.

      "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

      by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:28:52 AM PDT

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    •  why would you make it personal like that? (3+ / 0-)
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      NoMoreLies, bluezen, Michael in Ohio

      tut tut....

      But, as the diarist has recapped, the way the Administration has dealt with the economy has been to give Wall Street what it wants. Don't you remember all of those "Main Street, not Wall Street" speeches? And yet we got the opposite.

      •  Well... (1+ / 0-)
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        Shahryar

        Some people prefer to keep their heads buried in the sand.  Those are the ones who never take responsibility for anything and are content to insult others thinking it'll get them what they want.  And then they have the temerity to wonder why they're disliked.

        "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

        by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:33:03 AM PDT

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  •  this week will be fun (1+ / 0-)
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    Michael in Ohio

    I agree with everything in the diary and it's always interesting to read comments from people who are on a totally different wavelength.

    I'm intrigued by the concept of knowing exactly why we did poorly last night while other people have an alternative view that makes as much sense to them.

  •  Funneh! (0+ / 0-)

    last month, it was reported that the GOP in Colorado was in danger of losing its major party status if it failed to garner ten percent of the vote.

    http://blackchristiannews.com/...

    According to CNN, Tom Tancredo, the independent right-winger, got 37% of the vote to Democrat John Hickenlooper's 51%.  Republican Dan Maes got 11% with ninety percent of the vote counted.  If the remaining ten percent of the final tally ultimately shows Maes getting less than that crucial ten percent, the GOP will officially become a minor political party in Colorado.

    Just something to gloat over.

    "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

    by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:39:50 AM PDT

  •  Your own state is a perfect example of why we (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    lost.  Unfortunately, the majority community (white voters) reflexively vote Republican.  Until that changes, nothing can change.  

    "Because I am a river to my people."

    by lordcopper on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:44:24 AM PDT

    •  Not really. (0+ / 0-)

      Strickland basically sat on his ass for four years waiting for the state legislature to send him bills he could sign.  But that's not what a governor, president, or even mayor should be doing.  In addition to enforcing the laws passed by the legislature, an executive is obligated to make recommendations as to what the legislature must do to address problems.  In short, he could have used the bully pulpit that came with his office to make sure he got bills that solved some of the state's problems.  Instead, by his own admission, Strickland refused to do so.

      And Cuyahoga is predominantly Democrat, and it's one of the largest voting blocs in the state.  So the notion that the whole state of Ohio reflexively votes Republican is dubious at best.  Furthermore, I expect evidence of GOP vote fraud to come out sooner or later.  When Jennifer Brunner ran her vanity campaign against Lee Fisher for the nomination to run for U.S. Senate, she left in place the institutional corruption in the boards of election that allowed the Republican Party to steal elections through dirty tricks including voter intimidation, electronic voting machines rigged to deliver false counts, destroying ballots, and shortchanging Democrat precincts.

      "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

      by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:52:43 AM PDT

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      •  The POTUS can't educate every citizen on the way (1+ / 0-)
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        Deep Texan

        govt works.  It's the citizen's job to educate themselves on policy, if they can get over their preconceived notions.  When they can't, we get the type of policies that we've had for the last 30 years.  We get exactly the quality of government that we collectively deserve.

        "Because I am a river to my people."

        by lordcopper on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 10:59:51 AM PDT

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        •  Wrong. (0+ / 0-)

          An executive cannot simply be passive and expect citizens to educate themselves on what said executive thinks is good for them.  He has to get out and hit the pavement to make sure people know what he thinks will work, why it will work, and why it needs to pass.  If he can't or won't do that, he's not doing his job.  People have jobs that pay little and force them to work longer and longer hours.  They haven't the time or energy to do the governor's job for him.  That's why they elected him in the first place.  Saying it's up to the voters to educate themselves is simply making excuses for political laziness.

          "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

          by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:06:42 AM PDT

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          •  I've been approached by my local Democratic (1+ / 0-)
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            Party to run for office a couple of times and I've always refused because I know you can't count on Democratic voters.  Look at all the time, effort, and money the Democrats have to spend to GOTV, and the GOP gets theirs for free.  This is a center right country.  It's as simple as that.

            "Because I am a river to my people."

            by lordcopper on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:10:49 AM PDT

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            •  So go Green. (0+ / 0-)

              Seriously.  If you don't think you can rely on Democrats to vote for you, don't run as a Democrat.  When I went independent this year, both major parties buried me in glossy campaign literature and filled up my answering machine with their phone calls.  The country is not center-right.  It is in fact quite liberal, founded on liberal ideas.  It's the political establishment that is to the right, and by dominating for over thirty years, they've dragged the rest of the country kicking and screaming to the right.  Less than half the electorate bothers to vote anymore unless it is seriously motivated, as in 2006 and 2008 when things were so bad they got angry enough to show up at the polls.  That's more than half the country that doesn't bother with voting, people whose political ideology isn't counted because it goes unexpressed, or else gets spun by the corporate-owned media.

              Give voters a real alternative and then come back and tell me they can't be relied upon.  Either that or move to where you think you'll be better represented.

              "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

              by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:37:45 AM PDT

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              •  I'm not interested in wasting my time. Maybe (1+ / 0-)
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                the country isn't center-right, but the voters who show up on election day sure are.

                "Because I am a river to my people."

                by lordcopper on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 11:43:31 AM PDT

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                •  There's no such thing as a political center. (0+ / 0-)

                  Define it if it exists.  What's the middle ground between enabling/instituting torture, and prosecuting the criminals who committed and authorized the crime?  There is none.

                  That right-wing voters show up to vote while left-wing voters give up and stay home if they can't vote independently doesn't mean that the electorate is right-wing.  As the past two years demonstrate, leftist voters don't vote for Democrats because the Democrats are a right-wing political party that doesn't represent them, heaps abuse after abuse upon them at every opportunity while enabling the depraved policies of their so-called opponents, and then has the audacity to come around every election cycle with threats and intimidation tactics demanding our votes.  No one on his or her right mind is going to cast a ballot for such people, not unless that person is suffering a severe case of political abuse syndrome (which is like spousal abuse syndrome, except that in this case the abusive spouse is a political organization).

                  Like I said, give people real alternatives at the polls and watch what happens.  Polls are showing that more Americans than not want a third political party, because the two big ones aren't representative of their interests.  This is according to a recent Gallup poll conducted with USA Today.

                  Again, it's no coincidence that half the Bush Dogs lost their House seats.

                  According to an analysis by The Huffington Post, 23 of the 46 Blue Dogs up for re-election went down on Tuesday. Notable losses included Rep. Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (D-S.D.), the coalition's co-chair for administration, and Rep. Baron Hill (D-Ind.), the co-chair for policy. Two members were running for higher office (both lost), three were retiring and three races were still too close to call.

                  The Blue Dogs, a coalition of moderate to conservative Democrats in the House, have consistently frustrated their more progressive colleagues and activists within the party . . . .

                  Glenn Greenwald writes:

                  Half of the Blue Dog incumbents were defeated, and by themselves accounted for close to half of the Democratic losses. Some of us have been arguing for quite some time that the Rahm-engineered dependence on Blue Dog power is one of the many factors that has made the Democratic Party so weak, blurry, indistinguishable from the GOP, and therefore so politically inept, and would thus be stronger and better without them -- here's a 2008 Salon article I wrote making that case.  Despite viewing last night's Blue Dog losses with happiness, I wouldn't point to this outcome as vindication for my argument, as there are many complex factors that account for last night's crushing of Congressional Democrats: widespread economic suffering, anxiety over America's obvious decline, the perception that Obama has done little to undermine destructive status quo forces and much to bolster them, etc. etc.

                  But for slothful pundits who want to derive sweeping meaning from individual races in order to blame the Left and claim that last night was a repudiation of liberalism, the far more rational conclusion -- given the eradication of 50% of the Blue Dog caucus -- is that the worst possible choice Democrats can make is to run as GOP-replicating corporatists devoted above all else to serving corporate interests in order to perpetuate their own power: what Washington calls "centrists" and "conservative Democrats."  That is who bore the bulk of the brunt of last night's Democratic bloodbath -- not liberals.

                  It's dangerous to assume that the nation as a whole is right-wing when half the Democrats who lost re-election last night were from the far right of the political divide, among the worst corporate-beholden politicians within that party.  The losses in the other races have more to due with political blunders on the campaign trail combined with unpopularity as a result of having been too accommodating toward the Republicans.

                  "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time." -- Harry S. Truman

                  by Michael in Ohio on Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 03:07:04 PM PDT

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