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OR-01: Looks like the curtain's being tugged down around the not-so-wizardly Rob Cornilles. The Republican nominee in the Oregon 1st CD special election has been touting his credentials as a businessman and "job creator" all campaign long, but new reporting indicates he's as much a fraud as he is real. From Jeff Mapes at The Oregonian:

With a marketer's flair, Cornilles repeatedly talks about how Game Face has "created 60 jobs" in Oregon. That, however, refers to the number of people who have worked at the company at one point or another. Game Face has never had more than 20 to 22 people at any one time, Cornilles acknowledges, and it's now down to four full-time employees and two part-timers.

And:

However, the firm ran afoul of the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries, which questioned the legality of Game Face's business model after three former trainees filed complaints in 2003 charging that they deserved back wages. […]

Game Face agreed to pay just over $9,000 in back wages to the trio in a settlement that ended further legal action. […]

The company's other brush with authorities came in 2007 when the Internal Revenue Service filed a tax lien of $83,284 against Game Face after it failed to pay payroll taxes for nine months.

Nigel Jaquiss at the Willamette Week has more:

But Cornilles has also made claims that he is one of the nation's top sports marketing figures. "Rob has been invited into more front offices than any person in sports," Cornilles says on his LinkedIn page.

Some sports business veterans, however, are puzzled by the claim.

"I don't know what that means," says Steve Patterson, former Blazers president and now chief operating officer for Arizona State University's athletic department. […]

Pressed by WW to substantiate his claim that he's been in more front offices than "any person in sports," Cornilles says he can't.

"Admittedly, you'd have to take my word for it," he says.

And still more:

But Oregon law requires a company to have a physical location, so Cornilles listed 19125 SW 125th Court, Tualatin, as Game Face's address.

The only catch—Game Face vacated its 6,800-square-foot office at that location in 2008 to save money.

Asked why his business registration lists an empty office, Cornilles initially denied that was the case. When showed the records, he called it "a mistake."

Carla Axtman at Blue Oregon offers her take as well. And hat-tip to SaoMagnifico for highlighting the key excerpts. Also, keep a look out for our poll of the race, to be published later today.

Senate:

HI-Sen: While Ed Case continues with his loser talk about "DC insiders," Mazie Hirono is heading to Seattle on Friday (I guess that counts as "nearby" to Hawaii) for a major fundraiser with DSCC chair Patty Murray, EMILY's List, and four members of the state's House delegation (all Democrats, of course). One person who isn't endorsing either candidate, though, is Hawaii's other representative, Colleen Hanabusa, who says "she will not take sides because she knows both candidates well," according to Roll Call. (I'm not surprised: Hanabusa and Hirono by all accounts have a pretty frosty relationship, but Case is pretty anathema to Hawaii's political establishment, and he also kept Hanabusa from winning last year's special election for the seat she later won in the fall.)

MI-Sen: Hahah! That was quick! Just over two months after hiring the notorious Dick Wadhams as his campaign manager, Clark Durant has already replaced him—with none other than Andy Anuzis, brother of Saul Anuzis, the wannabe RNC chair who pushed Durant into the race in the first place. So is Durant's campaign just turning into a way for the Anuzis clan to squeeze out some bucks? Not that Wadhams was any great shakes, given the huge black marks on his record (George Allen '06, Bob Schaffer '08), but he was at least something of a big-name get for an insurgent outsider like Durant. Oh well. I was initially high on Durant's chances of upsetting ex-Rep. Pete Hoekstra in the GOP primary, but now I'm a lot less optimistic.

NE-Sen: The National Right to Life Committee says it will oppose Dem Sen. Ben Nelson's re-election, should he choose to run again next year, even though the group has given him their support in the past. Nelson, for his part, sounds vaguely likelier to run in this new Politico interview, but he's still being coy.

NM-Sen: PPP's new New Mexico poll mostly features Democratic leads, particularly for Rep. Martin Heinrich, though GOP ex-Rep. Heather Wilson ties Auditor Hector Balderas in their head-to-head matchup. Meanwhile, Wilson has a big 55-20 lead over Lt. Gov. John Sanchez in the Republican primary. We'll bring you a full post on this survey later today.

VA-Sen: For the first time in any polling pretty much ever, there's finally some separation between the two big names seeking Virginia's open Senate seat: Democrat Tim Kaine leads Republican George Allen 47-42 in PPP's new survey. Click the link for David Jarman's full post at Daily Kos Elections, including some thoughts on why Kaine might have moved ahead and some interesting breakdowns from the crosstabs.

Gubernatorial:

ID-Gov: Republican Gov. Butch Otter, first elected in 2006 in an unexpectedly close race, says he will seek a third term in 2014. However, local Idaho political analyst Dan Popkey points out that Otter will be 72 in 2014, so he's skeptical that Otter actually means it when he says he'll seek re-election. Rather, he thinks Otter is trying to "avoid a prolonged lame-duckhood" and also raise money for his campaign account, which is currently deep in debt. He also thinks Otter feels wounded by recent accusations in the press that he's "mailing it in" and wants to repair his relationship with the media.

If Otter doesn't run, Popkey offers a number of Republican names who could replace him: Lt. Gov. Brad Little, Rep. Raul Labrador, Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Luna, and Attorney General Lawrence Wasden. While I have to laugh a little at Labrador, I gotta say what, no Bill Sali?

WI-Gov: Wisconsin Democrats just announced they've collected over 507,000 signatures to put Gov. Scott Walker on the ballot for a recall. The legal threshold is 540,208, but organizers want to get at least 720,000 to ensure against any challenges. The deadline for submitting petitions is not until Jan. 17, so this one almost assuredly appears to be in the bag. Excellent work! And hopefully this means good things about our state Senate recall efforts, top.

House:

FL-13: Former state Rep. Keith Fitzgerald, who is taking on third-term GOPer Vern Buchanan, got some help earlier this week from a prominent Democratic name: Former Sen. Bob Graham held a fundraiser for him in Tampa on Wednesday.

IL-10: Not exactly surprising, and I'm sure entirely un-meaningful to your average member of the public, but ex-Rep. Melissa Bean just endorsed businessman Brad Schneider in the Democratic primary in the 10th CD. More importantly, she also threw a fundraiser for him, which he probably could use after his anemic third quarter haul.

KY-04: Republican Rep. Geoff Davis just announced that he plans to retire at the end of this term—something of a surprise, given that he's just 53 and has only been in office since 2004. It's a very red seat, so not likely to produce a real opportunity for Democrats, but click the link for our full post at Daily Kos Elections, where we discuss possible successors to Davis.

MD-05: Well, okay—if you insist. Republican state House Minority Leader Anthony O'Donnell just announced a bid to challenge none other than Rep. Steny Hoyer, the number-two ranking Democrat in the House. This district went 65-34 for Obama, so really, there's just no way here.

MD-06: Businessman John Delaney is out with an internal poll of the Democratic primary (from Garin-Hart-Yang) showing him getting all of 9% of the vote… but I can understand why he released it. The nominal frontrunner, state Sen. Rob Garagiola, takes just 14%, and former Montgomery County Councilwoman Duchy Trachtenberg is also at 9. For a newcomer like Delaney, he wants to show that this race is wide-open and that even a well-established figure like Garagiola doesn't have a lock on the nomination. But I'll be curious to see if anyone releases any contradictory surveys.

NC-08: Republican perennial candidate Vernon Robinson is pretty much a joke, but this ad is apparently actually going on the air—and wow is it a nasty piece of work:

NC-11: Businessman Ethan Wingfield says he's thinking about joining the half-dozen strong GOP field that's vying to take on Dem Rep. Heath Shuler. Though he's only 26, he claims he can partially self-fund.

OH-16: This is encouraging: A new Democratic internal poll from GBA Strategies shows the nascent race between Dem Rep. Betty Sutton and GOP Rep. Jim Renacci in the 16th to be all tied at 45 apiece. The poll was apparently "released to reporters" by the DCCC, but Sabrina Eaton at the Cleveland Plain Dealer notes that Sutton is listed as a GBA client. Whoever paid for the survey held on to it for a couple of months, though, since it was taken in October—but it's worth noting that Sutton didn't announce her decision to seek re-election in the 16th until just a week ago, so presumably she (or someone else) did a bunch of polling in different districts and only decided to publish the numbers now that she's made up her mind.

PA-07: Just thought I'd get everyone's day started off wrong by showcasing andgarden's drawing of the proposed new 7th CD. Really shows you how wild a gerrymander it is when you see the district all on its own:

PA-07
PA-12: No surprise, but Dem Rep. Jason Altmire confirms that he'll seek re-election in the redrawn 12th CD (he currently represents the old 4th). So, too, will fellow Dem Rep. Mark Critz, who just rolled out a boatload of endorsements from prominent local officials, including former state AFL-CIO chief Bill George and Joyce Murtha, widow of former Rep. John Murtha, whose shoes Critz filled in a special election when Murtha passed away last year. Incidentally, Altmire's campaign has published an analysis in which they say that 66% of the new 12th is contained in the 4th, while just 27% is in the old 12th, which is Critz's current district.

RI-01: Bank president Merrill Sherman says she won't challenge freshman Rep. David Cicilline in the Democratic primary, but conservative businessman Anthony Gemma (who also ran last year) now says he's "95% sure" he will get in the race. (To give you a sense of Gemma's politics, he made this announcement while appearing on a right-wing talk radio show, something I understand he does frequently.)

TX-10: Despite not knowing what the district lines will even look like, international affairs consultant Dan Grant has decided to forge full steam ahead and file to run in the 10th CD against GOP Rep. Mike McCaul. Grant, who made an unsuccessful bid for the Democratic nomination in this district back in 2008, said late last month that he was exploring the race here.

UT-04: Dem Rep. Jim Matheson, who currently represents the old 2nd CD, has finally announced his plans: He'll seek re-election in Utah's brand-new 4th District instead. Matheson had previously ruled out running for Senate, but a gubernatorial bid was still a possibility. In any event, this move makes sense, since the 4th is actually the least-red of all of the state's House seats. Also, about a third of the district is made up of Matheson's current constituents. That's actually a smaller share than got shoveled into the redrawn 2nd CD, but like I said, the 4th is friendlier to Dems. As for who he might face next fall, several Republicans are already in the race or very close to it: State Reps. Carl Wimmer and Stephen Sandstrom, and Saratoga Springs Mayor Mia Love.

EMILY's List just endorsed four more Democratic women: ex-state Rep. Elizabeth Esty (CT-05), ex-state Sen. Tarryl Clark (MN-08), ex-Rep. Dina Titus (NV-01), and Rep. Betty Sutton (OH-16). It's a particularly good get for Sutton, who faces a tough incumbent-vs.-incumbent fight against GOP Rep. Jim Renacci. But the Esty endorsement mystifies me, because I see her as having an incredibly tough time gaining traction against State House Speaker Chris Donovan, who has shown a lot of strength so far in the primary. Indeed, Donovan just announced the backing of yet another union, the Connecticut Council of Police (an AFSCME affiliate), which represents almost 4,000 police officers.

Grab Bag:

DCCC: Not too shabby: DCCC chair Steve Israel says that by the end of the year, his organization will have paid down all $19 million in debt it accrued last cycle. (They still had about $1.3 mil on the books as of their last FEC report.) This saves the D-Trip lots of money in terms of interest payments, but also (probably more importantly) it frees them up to take on new debt next year. This is actually a good thing, for the same reason taking out a mortgage allows you to spend more on a house than you'd ever be able to if you had to pay for the whole thing in cash. But, as with a homebuyer, there's probably a limit to how much credit banks are willing to extend to the DCCC, so having a clean balance sheet likely maximizes their future borrowing ability.

WATN?: Former Rep. Tom Perriello (VA-05) has landed a job as president of the Center for American Progress's Action Fund. It's nice to see a Democratic ex-congressman wind up at a progressive place like CAP rather than some wankerish think tank like Third Way or, worse, at some unseemly lobbying shop on K Street. The question is how long-term of a gig this will be, since Perriello's name has been floated for possible statewide office, such as attorney general or governor. Those positions are next up in 2013.

Redistricting Roundup:

IL Redistricting: Quelle surprise: The three-judge panel trying the Republican suit against Illinois' new congressional map just bounced the case, saying there are no workable standards for evaluating claims of political gerrymandering, and also saying the GOP failed provide sufficient evidence that the legislature "intentionally discriminated against Latinos." Key excerpts from the decision, as well as the ruling itself, are available at the link. Republicans haven't yet decided whether to appeal; if they do, it will go directly to the Supreme Court, bypassing the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. (Why? Because that's how the VRA rolls.)

NJ Redistricting: Rutgers Law School Dean John Farmer, the tiebreaking 13th member of the state's congressional redistricting commission (and by virtue of that, its chair), says he hopes to have agreement on a new map before Christmas. However, the panel will only begin discussing plans on Monday, and they aren't legally required to finish until mid-January.

OH Redistricting: Gah. Just writing about this pisses me off. The latest Republican gerrymander of Ohio has now passed both chambers of the legislature, with most Democrats pathetically voting in favor of them. The bill now goes to GOP Gov. John Kasich for his inevitable signature. The only change between this map and the revised version Republicans put forth in November (which Democrats rejected at the time) was to move some 800 people so that Democratic state Rep. Ted Celeste's home would be placed within the new 3rd Congressional District, which he's seeking. Way to look like your looking out for the interests of Ohio's citizens, Democrats! (Incidentally, Dem ex-Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy, who is also running, does not live in the 3rd.)

And as for that restored March 6 primary, the filing deadline for all candidates is now Dec. 30.

PA Redistricting: Wow! Republicans very nearly muffed a key vote on their own gerrymander! The state Senate's initial tally came to a 25-25 tie thanks to GOP defections, but one senator, Elder Vogel of Beaver, switched at the last minute. But much like the impeachment of Andrew Johnson (who was acquitted in the Senate by a single vote), it sounds like Republicans weren't actually that close to losing: Keegan Gibson at PoliticsPA suggests that if it hadn't been Vogel, another one of the wayward members would have been corralled no matter what.

Meanwhile, thanks to some incredibly hard work by jeffmd, we now have presidential election results by congressional district for the new congressional map proposed by Pennsylvania Republicans, as well as a Google Maps version of the map itself. Click the link for all the goodness.

TX Redistricting: Michael Li has another helpful Q&A about Texas's filing deadlines and election schedule, though of course we still don't know when the primary (or primaries) will be held. As of last night, no agreement had been reached between the parties, but this could conceivably get resolved today under the auspices of the San Antonio court. Relatedly, the New York Times has a close-up look at the kind of chaos the Supreme Court unleashed at the local election board level thanks to their stay of the maps. (You know, the whole purpose of a stay is to forestall irreparable harm, not cause it. Guess the Supremos got confused.)

Originally posted to Daily Kos Elections on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:00 AM PST.

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  •  Obama approval at 44% in AP/Gfk poll (5+ / 0-)

    54 disapproval.  Down from 46-52 two months ago.

    http://www.time.com/...

    “If you think I can be bought for five thousand dollars, I'm offended." Rick Perry.

    by Paleo on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:12:22 AM PST

  •  NC-11 (3+ / 0-)
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    Setsuna Mudo, RoIn, MichaelNY

    The GOP field looks pretty crowded. I hope the primary is brutal so that the Republican is weaker against Shuler.

    Progressive Dixiecrat. 19, LSU student, NC resident

    by MilesC on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:33:08 AM PST

  •  NC Redistricting Maps head to Court (8+ / 0-)
    Friday marks the first court proceeding for a pair of legal challenges to the state's new redistricting maps.

    A three-judge panel will hold a 10am hearing at Campbell Law School in Raleigh to decide what the timeline for the challenges will be, and whether the two lawsuits against the maps should be combined into one case.

    The plaintiffs challenging the maps want the process to move quickly. They're asking the panel to rule on the maps by or before Feb 13th, the beginning of the 2012 filing period. That way, if the panel rejects the maps, new ones could be drawn before the election.  

    http://www.wral.com/...

    "Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle." Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by bear83 on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 05:35:21 AM PST

    •  The initial fight is over the schedule (0+ / 0-)

      The State of NC and the Legislature want the suit delayed and the 2012 elections to move ahead on the current schedule with the new (flawed) Republican-drawn maps.

      Democrats and the NAACP want the suit heard in February and filing (scheduled for 2/13) delayed until their suit can be heard (and judge-drawn maps used), even if it ultimately means having the 2012 election with the current (Democratic) maps from 2002. It should be obvious why they want that...

      State law requires trial judges to sit in groups of three to consider redistricting challenges. Chief Justice Sarah Parker appointed the panel. While judges participate in nonpartisan elections, two of the three judges on the panel are registered Democrats.

      10 years ago
      Republicans won litigation that focused upon whether the state constitution's requirement that the number of counties split between two or more districts are minimized.

      This year's litigation involves 48 House and Senate districts and four congressional districts and hundreds of split precincts that involve nearly 2 million people, or 27 percent of the voting-age population.

      http://www.wral.com/...

      Republicans created one hell of a mess with these maps, but want the election to move ahead with them anyway even if they end up getting tossed.

      "Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle." Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by bear83 on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 12:53:56 PM PST

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  •  GOP Debate (4+ / 0-)

    I try not to watch the whole things, but is there really any doubt that Huntsman is the most put together guy.  Maybe not the best on issues, best debaters, but just seems like he could be president.  

    I wish he hadn't skipped Iowa, the race would be even murkier.

  •  If the SCOTUS throws out political gerrymanders (1+ / 0-)
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    I think that helps us more than it hurts us.  Presumably they wouldn't be so venal as to just throw out the IL map, so we would get new maps for a whole bunch of states.

    Here's my math:

    losses:
    MD -2
    MA -1
    IL - 4

    gains:
    MI +2
    OH +3
    PA +3
    NC +3
    FL +3
    GA +1
    SC +1
    TX +4
    UT +1

    Of course a lot would depend on the details of the ruling.  Do they insist on California style commissions for the whole country or do they just give a set of rules for legislators to follow, as in Florida?

    All of this, of course, would be incredibly surprising and contrary to all precedent.  There is a case that Gerrymandering violates voters constitutional rights, but it is tenuous. Reynolds v. Sims held that districts of unequal population violated people's rights under the 14th amendment to equal protection of the law.  Wesberry v. Sanders had earlier applied that requirement to congressional districts only arguing that wording of the original constitution implied equal size districts.  The equal protection is the stronger line of attack, I feel, but again, the courts have consistently ruled that political gerrymandering is constitutional.

  •  Minnesota State Senate (6+ / 0-)

    Republican Majority Leader Amy Koch is resigning from her leadership position effective immediately, and will not seek reelection next year. This is strange as she is only 40, lives in Erik Paulsen's district, was was first elected in 2006.
    http://www.startribune.com/...

  •  So is the debate going to change anything? (3+ / 0-)
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    I poked around red state, free republic and some other sites, and saw lots of complements @ Gingrich's performance, and lots of criticizms @ the performance Bachmann and Paul. The general consensus is that everyone else was neither here nor there.

    I could see the poll tightening being a benefit to Gingrich, if he ends up winning Iowa. I feel like Iowa "success" is a function of expectations and the ability to follow through. In 08 Edwards and Huckabee beat expectations but had no ability to follow through in NH or SC. McCain beat expectations in Iowa (with is amazing since it he came in 4th place) and was able to follow through in NH which enabled him to follow through in SC. Romney did not meet expectations.

    So now that many think that Romney or Paul wins Iowa, if Gingrich beats expectations and wins, he does have the ability to follow through and be a close 2nd (he is polling @ 10 points behind Romney on average) in NH and win SC.

    Even if Ron Paul beats expectations and wins Iowa, he seems less likely to have a close 2nd in NH (averaging about @ 18 points behind Romney) and his SC polling is awful (@ 35 points behind Gingrich). No follow through.

    If Mitt wins Iowa, he'll win NH and probably hold his own in SC (though he is 20 points behind Gingrich right now). He also has the advantage of the media and insiders being on his side.

    All other candidates are too far behind in all or most of the 1st 4 states to be worth discussing at this point.

    •  My take (2+ / 0-)
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      Because there was no one 'breakout' star among the second tier, that still leaves Gingrich as the 'not Romney'. Perry - who in theory could give him the most problems because of his money (though we don't know how much is left) was probably the weakest. Michelle did her thing, but I think she came across as bitchy and I'd be surprised to see her get any kind of a surge out of that. Ron Paul might have done better if he had not gone on and on about Iran so much.
      I thought Romney won the debate, but not sure if that will help him much in Iowa. There's going to be a massive attack on Newt via mail, TV and anonymous flyers for the next two weeks. I've no doubt it will damage him, but not sure where the support would go. Ron Paul has a hard ceiling and so unless it goes to Romney (which is possible) I would see Gingrich still winning Iowa. The fact that his expectations have now been lowered there is actually a good thing for him if he pulls out a win.

      Hush! Hush! see how the Child is sleeping; Hush! Hush! see how he smiles in dreams!

      by Zornorph on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:33:01 AM PST

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      •  I didn't think Perry was the weakest (1+ / 0-)
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        Santorum is always an afterthought.  Bachmann seemed like she was just too negative.  I don't like Luntz but in the post-debate he said that she may have increased her strength with her existing votes but she didn't grab any new voters.

        I actually thought Perry helped himself, 4th place here he comes :-)

    •  It's still basicly (0+ / 0-)

      all about Romney.  The others are either running for VP or other publicity, or they're straightforward spite-the-liberals candidates.

      I think this one doesn't decide until the first actual caucuses and primary take place- iow, Iowa and New Hampshire happen.  You're right, the results may not look decisive.  But most candidacies will collapse pretty fast in their wake.  Most support for the field looks superficial and arbitrary, it can shift fast or stay home, and I suspect there won't be much mourning as candidates drop out.

  •  I miss North Carolina! (5+ / 0-)

    NC-08: You know you've arrived when your campaign ad is adults-only on YouTube, especially if you're a Republican.  And that's before getting to the "Black Jesse Helms" stuff.  

    But nobody's buying flowers from the flower lady.

    by Rich in PA on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:43:30 AM PST

    •  that was...i have no words. (1+ / 0-)
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      gawd. i need to hatch my escape plan.

      i'm not feeling good about Team Blue's chances in 2012 AT ALL on any level and I want to get out of here before I am prohibited from it.

      I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

      by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:48:41 AM PST

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      •  From NC or the US? n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        But nobody's buying flowers from the flower lady.

        by Rich in PA on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 06:49:26 AM PST

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        •  I think he/she meant US. (0+ / 0-)

          (-7.62, -6.31), Blood type "O", Democratic-socialist, social anarchist, KY-01, Chairman DKE caucus for people who aren't chairman of a DKE caucus

          by Setsuna Mudo on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:26:16 AM PST

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          •  I was giving her the benefit of the doubt :) (1+ / 0-)
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            MichaelNY

            I've never understood that sentiment and I never will.  

            But nobody's buying flowers from the flower lady.

            by Rich in PA on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:28:29 AM PST

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            •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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              mdmslle

              if you believe martial law is imminent it's the logical course of action.

              (-7.62, -6.31), Blood type "O", Democratic-socialist, social anarchist, KY-01, Chairman DKE caucus for people who aren't chairman of a DKE caucus

              by Setsuna Mudo on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:30:14 AM PST

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            •  here's the thing: there were jews who fled (1+ / 0-)
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              Setsuna Mudo

              before kristallnacht because they read the writing on the wall.

              were they wrong to do that?

              I don't think so.

              do i expect to be loaded up into a cargo train and put in a gas chamber? no.

              but if we look at the people who are running for office on the GOP side, and the ominous laws and decimation of the bill of rights and the constitution that is cementing itself into place right now as we speak, almost completely under the radar of 99% of american public; if we look at the fight JUST TO KEEP the internet as we have it (!) and the incredible state sanction brutality of police departments in America against protesters who are completely non violent; I'm wondering how bad to do I need it to get before I think it's worth a second look at leaving?

              our party is fucked up. we can't even stand up for medicare in an election season. the other party is literally a bunch or religio-facists who would classify YOU, Rich as a subversive and brand you a terrorist. And thanks to the NDAA which will still be in effect if/when they retake the white house, theyll be able to send their militarized policemen to your house because you posted on a "known communist website" or "sent money to support OWS a terrorist organization". And they won't need to charge you or anything. YAY NDAA.

              Or do you forget the 50's red scare and the americans who were labeled and blacklisted? Are we past that? I don't think so. And I hope you don't either.

              So yea, that's my thought process.

              At what point to I believe it's too far gone and is becoming so dangerous that my life might depend on my leaving? That's the balancing act I play in my mind when I observe what's happening in our society.

              I won't even get into the inherent issues of decreased life expectancy and quality of life due to the income inequality being built into the system here, the rush to eliminate what little social safety net exists and the lack of access to the privilege of health care. I;m not even addressing that. But it's also a factor.

              That explain "that sentiment". I hope.

              I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

              by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:41:53 AM PST

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              •  Alarmist much? (2+ / 0-)
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                25, originally OK-1, currently NY-8. Former swingnut.

                by okiedem on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:01:22 AM PST

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              •  As bad as things could get... (5+ / 0-)

                Comparing the situation we would be in after a hypothetical Republican victory to kristallnacht  is pretty outlandish.

                25, originally OK-1, currently NY-8. Former swingnut.

                by okiedem on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:04:44 AM PST

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                •  It's not alarmist. We just had a major (1+ / 0-)
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                  Setsuna Mudo

                  company remove ads from a innocuous TV show because it didn't portray muslims as extremists.

                  40% of the country believes YOU are "against america". Our media is compromised. Our pols are compromised. our highest court is compromised. where do we get recourse of action?

                  The rules are changing right under our noses. It's not meaningless. What happened in germany did not happen overnight. And while I'm not in any way suggesting that we'll see liberals marched into concentration camps or gas chambers, I;m saying that what's happening in America is very dangerous and  is just as much a matter of life and death. Ho wmany people would die if Ryan-Wyden's plan was adopted/ How many people are already dying because of lack of health care? How many people are going to suffer and die if the GOP policies to stop any and all social safety programs are implemented? Who will have access to education? What will happen to worker's safety? 40 hour work weeks? What will happen if they are successful in eliminating "job killing" environmental regulations? How about starving out public education? How about a run wild financial sector that bleeds the 99% to death? What about loosing business regulations to the point that there are no protections for us? How about debtor's prisons? How about child labor? How about people so desperate for food and shelter that they'll take any job that a business offers? Want to work for $3.43/hr? No rules against it, no overtime, no hope.

                  I;m not pulling this stuff out of my ass. ITS HAPPENING and ITS ACTUALLY PART OF THE GOP PLATFORM.

                  they don't need to load people up into trains. there are 45 million poor americans right now. 1 in 4 families have food insecurity right now. And our "leaders" are arguing about cutting unemployment and medicaid and medicare and "reforming social security" RIGHT NOW. And this is with a democratic president and senate.

                  This is not alarmist. This is happening right now. And YES lives depend on it.

                  We are fighting to keep the internet (our only source of communication that is NOT biased and driven by corporate media) open and available. We're fight ing for it because ONE POWERFUL lobby wants to protect IP. And our lawmakers are ignorant and compromised.

                  We are watching NDAA codify an egregious decimation of our bill of rights. RIGHT NOW this is happening. And what happens when the next wackadoodle president decides YOU are a terrorist (whatever that means) because you post here on DailyKos? Or because you supported the Ocuppy movement, who President Wackadoodle decided is a subversive anti-american organization? You find this improbable? You're more forgiving than I am. I don't. I'm disgusted by the sheer number of people who cheered the police as they sprayed down SEATED NON VIOLENT protesters. yay.

                  And this with a democratic president and senate. The reigns are still on right now. That may not always be the case. If the senate had flipped as the house did in 2010, we wouldn't be having this conversation at all because every crazy piece of shit legislation that came out of the house in the last year, that we've been able to prevent because we still hold the senate and the WH, would be IN EFFECT today. Think about that and how CLOSE we came to losing the senate.

                  This isn't alarmist at all. It's observational.

                  I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

                  by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:26:16 AM PST

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                  •  Just as an FYI (3+ / 0-)
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                    I've not noticed your screenname on DKE before, but DKE is a little different from the rest of DK.  You can probably read the DKE mission and what not, but in short DKE tends to focus on elections and such pretty directly and not policy.

                    I'm not a spokesman for the board, but in the past the people who run DKE have tried to steer conversations more towards elections than policy.

                    •  this was sort of a rabbit hole of a discussion (0+ / 0-)

                      I rarely ever comment in DKE. If ever. I don;t believe I've ever posted in it because I usually dont read it.

                      It started with that NC08 ad. It saddened me and I just made an off hand comment that has sort of led to this thread.

                      I won't comment further.

                      I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

                      by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:37:34 AM PST

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                  •  I suggest that you write a diary on the topic (3+ / 0-)
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                    btw, this is Daily Kos Elections (we focus on the horse race), so it's not really the best audience within DK for what you're saying.

                    "I hope; therefore, I can live."
                    For SSP users, see my Tips for Swingnuts diary

                    by tietack on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:34:12 AM PST

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                    •  yea, i never visit the series. I didnt mean (0+ / 0-)

                      to get off onto a tangent. I saw the NC08 ad and commented on how it saddened me that such an ad could run. Then got waxing about emigration and that led to the thread.
                      sorry. i'm out. didn't mean to interrupt the normal "vibe".

                      I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

                      by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:39:40 AM PST

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                  •  Not to minimize the impact of Rep. policies but... (3+ / 0-)
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                    as damaging as they would be it doesn't really make us look credible if we go full Godwin and compare it to the systematic murder of 6 million people.

                    As a side note, I do generally agree that a lot of politically interested people sometimes fail to grasp the importance of election outcomes for the lives of millions of people. It just sort of baffles me whenever I see an otherwise liberal Democrat complaining about gerrymandering or fundraising from rich donors or something like that.

                    It's pretty silly to get queasy about the sausage-making process of winning an election in the face of the very serious implications they have for people's lives.

                    25, originally OK-1, currently NY-8. Former swingnut.

                    by okiedem on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:40:01 AM PST

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                    •  actually i wasnt comparing it directly (0+ / 0-)

                      i didnt say we were headed for that. The OP questioned how "some people" have a sentiment like they want to leave the country. I used kristallnacht to explain my position. I only used the reference to indicate that sometimes if you see the writing on the wall and believe that the policies being implemented are a threat to your life, that YES, its legitimate to consider fleeing.

                      I could have used a kitchen fire as an example too. Same thing. Bottom line I was explaining why I struggle with whether to stay in the U.S. or not based on some, IMO, very ominous and worrisome developments. And I'll say again, no, i don't expect to be loaded into a train and taken to a gas chamber. But where we are i the country right now and the dangerously thin line we walk between where we are now and complete a right wing take down of this country, is real. And it's just as dangerous and just as life threatening.

                      I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

                      by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 10:29:46 AM PST

                      [ Parent ]

        •  US. But that such an ad would run in NC (4+ / 0-)

          (yes, I know NC is very southern but relaly this ad is over the top) just saddens me and shows how deeply fucked up we are. We are really really down the rabbit hole.

          And as an AA, it disturbs me even more because this guy is basically saying "I'm not like all the other blacks" which is something I've heard people say to me far too many times in my life.

          I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

          by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:29:19 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

      •  You might like this one. (3+ / 0-)
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        Setsuna Mudo, mdmslle, pademocrat

        This is from a local race here on Long Island. Perhaps I am making too much out of this, but this seems like a hint that Obama and his Democratic pals are (black?) thugs that will rob you.

        •  ugh. (1+ / 0-)
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          Setsuna Mudo

          sometimes i wish i had no self-respect. I'm black and I am a gifted speaker and persuader. I could go far and make a fortune in the GOP.

          I've become re-radicalized. Thanks a lot you bunch of oligarchical fascist sons-of-bitches. But once again, I have no choice. Bring it the fuck on.

          by mdmslle on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:31:07 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  I didn't (1+ / 0-)
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          I didn't see that. Perhaps it was just my eyes, but isn't the candidate who was in the ad a black woman? What I thought was funny was how easily the guy with the crowbar got the backdoor open - not only was it clearly not locked, it doesn't seem as if it was even closed properly. No wonder the place was going to get robbed - the burglar didn't even need a crowbar!

          Hush! Hush! see how the Child is sleeping; Hush! Hush! see how he smiles in dreams!

          by Zornorph on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:41:31 AM PST

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  •  I don't know if one can call the ad (2+ / 0-)
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    Setsuna Mudo, MichaelNY

    of this Vernon Robinson guy a joke. It's the kind of dirt that is so toxic that it incites fires of hate.

    If I just had an idea how something like this couldn't make me upset.

  •  Gingrich, Romney, Justin Bieber, and Obama (4+ / 0-)

    I haven't seen this posted here, so I will do it. Apparently, Evanston Township High School in high school was suffering a budget cut to its arts program, so two seniors came up with a plan: play Justin Bieber's "Baby" during the passing periods for at least a week, or until the money was raised. The students coughed up $1,000 in three days. Here's the story.

    Perhaps this is a method that either Gingrich or Romney can use in Iowa and/or New Hampshire. (Can I suggest "Just Can't Get Enough" by the Black Eyed Peas?) Might it also work during the general? At this point, nothing would surprise me.

  •  Job creator is a funny thing. (2+ / 0-)
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    Minnesota Deb, akovia

    Disclaimer:

    Not paying payroll taxes and not paying wages is NOT a funny thing.  That by itself should disqualify the guy from any credence as an economic actor.

    However...

    I know more than a few small businesses that have been decimated by the current economy.
    I know more than a few people who are very very worried if things don't pick up in a serious way.

    Currently unreported story:

    More than a few small businesses are drowning in accounts receivable.  More than a few have stayed alive by dipping into credit lines, waiting for the turn that always -- at least up until now -- comes.

    Those businesses eventually have to let people go, no matter how hard they try.

    Things could get really ugly soon.
    Pray or hope manifestly (as is your wont) for a real pickup in the economy.

     

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:02:42 AM PST

    •  How is the last half unreported? (3+ / 0-)
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      Setsuna Mudo, askew, MichaelNY

      Companies borrowing to stay afloat is not unreported.... can't swing a dead cat without hearing about a small business struggling.

      •  Compared to many of the "important" stories (0+ / 0-)

        being reported, there doesn't seem to be much awareness of the cascade effect lurking in the shadows.

        I do hear people talk about "double dip recessions" -- as if we've ever come out of the Depression that we're in, but not much emphasis on what happens when the dominoes start falling:

        companies that can't pay their bills to other companies that then can't pay their bills to other companies that can't pay their bills.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:19:46 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I'm not really sure of what you (6+ / 0-)

          are talking about. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I am honestly not sure of where you are coming from.

          While this sort of thing might not be explicitly mentioned in every economic story, the basic idea behind increased government spending to make up for the private sector shortfall is to prevent the sort of spiral you are talking about from getting worse. In particular, this notion is often mentioned when talking about public sector layoffs.

          •  It might be nice if people talked explicitly about (0+ / 0-)

            the problem, if only to ask whether the increased government spending you talk about will actually make a difference.

            And I don't say that to sound like a dick, but a lot of money's been spent -- even if it's not enough -- without making much impact.  It's not just a question of how much you spend, but how and where.

            LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

            by dinotrac on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:44:19 AM PST

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            •  I meant explicit in the sense (2+ / 0-)
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              Setsuna Mudo, MichaelNY

              of specifically talking about small businesses and their struggles.

              I disagree that the money hasn't made much impact. It's just harder to get people to visualize and accept an alternative of "it could have been worse." However, I do agree that there needs to be a better set of talking points when it comes to government spending. It almost needs to be dumbed down to how Republicans talk about tax cuts.

              •  It doesn't need to be dumbed down at all. (0+ / 0-)

                The problem isn't talking points but policies that haven't reached very far if you're not a government worker or contractor.

                Pretty nice if you're a university researcher, though.
                So much money was earmarked for research in that package that Scientific American felt to ask whether the normal mechanisms for preventing and detecting scientific fraud were adequate to handle the influx.

                LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

                by dinotrac on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:18:14 AM PST

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            •  President Obama has frequently talked (0+ / 0-)

              about businesspeople struggling to make payroll.

              Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

              by MichaelNY on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:11:54 PM PST

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  •  Game Face Headquarters (2+ / 0-)
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    The Better Business Bureau list the address for Game Face's massive corporate headquarters as xxxx SW Chotaw St, Tualatin, OR.

    This 4279 square foot single family home has 4 bedrooms and 4.0 bathrooms. It is located at xxxx SW Choctaw St Tualatin, Oregon. This home is in the Tigard-Tualatin Sd 23J School District. The nearest schools are Edward Byrom Elementary School, Hazelbrook Middle School and Tualatin High School.

    [I put the Xs over the street number for privacy reason, but it is public record.]

    It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. - Molly Ivins

    by se portland on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:11:59 AM PST

  •  "The Black Jesse Helms" ??? (5+ / 0-)

    seems, to me,  that is like calling yourself the Jewish Adolf Hitler?

    and "Black Jesse"  Does know it isn't a tan he is sporting, right?

    so is Vernon Robinson the ONLY Black Person living  in the district he is running in or is he just a deeply repressed self loathing kinda guy?  

    "Orwell was an optimist"

    by KnotIookin on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:13:17 AM PST

  •  "Useful Idiot" Wyden undercuts Dems in OR-1 (2+ / 0-)
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    se portland, Setsuna Mudo
    We know some Democrats think they can STILL run against the Romney-Ryan plan, but the bipartisan stamp of approval in push-backs from someone that isn't viewed as someone who is simply a centrist Democrat trying to survive in a red state, is a pretty good response. And get this: Democrats are trying to win a special congressional election -- on Medicare! -- in Wyden's home state of Oregon."

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/...

    “If you think I can be bought for five thousand dollars, I'm offended." Rick Perry.

    by Paleo on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 07:55:08 AM PST

    •  Quite a bit of speculation and projection from (3+ / 0-)
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      sawolf, Setsuna Mudo, askew

      First Read there, no?

      •  Paul Ryan means more than Wyden (2+ / 0-)
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        tietack, Setsuna Mudo

        While I won't proclaim to be all that familiar with the issue, can't the Dems just frame it as the GOP (Ryan) is trying to change your Medicare?  If there's one thing seniors don't like, it's change to their entitlements.  

        Wyden doesn't give them much cover in this framing because people don't know him well nationally, while Paul Ryan can't be much more of a media hound.

        •  Yup, if Romney's on board as they suggest (2+ / 0-)
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          Setsuna Mudo, MichaelNY

          then I'd frame it as Romney accepting the public option for health care (again).

          From yesterday's discussion, I feel like so few here understand the art of jiujitsu.

          "I hope; therefore, I can live."
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          by tietack on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:23:28 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  Doesn't matter (1+ / 0-)
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          Setsuna Mudo

          Every time Obama, or any Democrat, attacks the Republicans on Medicare, they can point this "bi-partisan" proposal.  It gives them cover.

          “If you think I can be bought for five thousand dollars, I'm offended." Rick Perry.

          by Paleo on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:23:29 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  There's that, but then there's the issue (1+ / 0-)
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          tietack

          of Wyden only being one guy and it being highly unlikely, to say the least, that any sort of legislative progress is made on this. I could be wrong, but I suspect that it's fairly for Democrats to separate themselves from Wyden--if that's even necessary. Plus, there's the fact that Ryan's plan is pretty different from this. It's not entirely different, as it would make changes, but it's different in the sense that, while both cars, a Ford Escape and an Audi A6 aren't the same thing. I think the distinction between the two plans can be expressed during a campaign.

          Also, has anyone considered the fact that the way the A.C.A. and Wyden-Ryan meet in the middle will force the Republicans to run against this? I would be kind of stunned if they toned down their attacks on Obama over health care, but wouldn't they have to if they wanted to not look insane?

          •  "if they wanted to not look insane?" (2+ / 0-)
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            tietack, MichaelNY

            Welcome to 2012.  

            I don't think not looking insane will matter to many GOPers, but more importantly it will matter 0 to certain GOP PAC's.

            •  Fair enough, but explain to me how (0+ / 0-)

              they can seemingly agree with Obama and the Democrats AND run against the A.C.A. and everything similar to it at the same time? The Democrats, aside from Wyden, seem to have far less to lose here: they can simply oppose it and, in the process, go really negative against Ryan and the Republicans. But if the Republicans want to show that their ideas are far less radical than they are, which would itself require a lot of obfuscation on their part, they will need to have a good reply to the claim that their new preference, Wyden-Ryan, isn't all that different than the A.C.A. (If they don't do this, they are back to fully embracing the Ryan plan itself, which probably doesn't do them any favors, to say the least.) And while I would never want to underestimate the stupidity of some voters or the uselessness me of the media, I think they would need to be far more skilled than they are to blur the differences.

              When I said "insane," I am thinking of Romney or Gingrich being pounded with questions on this in a debate and, in the process of trying to go against Obama, contradicting themselves and making no sense at all, as if they were having some sort of mental break down.

        •  Yes, but (2+ / 0-)
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          Yes, but presumably people would know him in Oregon and that was the race First Read was referencing.

          Hush! Hush! see how the Child is sleeping; Hush! Hush! see how he smiles in dreams!

          by Zornorph on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:51:17 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  Former MS-1 candidate makes admission (4+ / 0-)

    You may remember that former Rep. Travis Childers defeated Davis twice for MS-1.

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/...

    Receipts from embattled Southaven Mayor Greg Davis reveal that he had the city pay for wide-ranging expenses including thousands of dollars worth of liquor, expensive dinners at a local restaurant and a visit to an adult store catering to gay men while on a recruitment trip to Canada.

    As details emerged Thursday from the receipts, provided by state auditors to Southaven aldermen and subsequently obtained by The Commercial Appeal, Davis conceded publicly for the first time in an interview with The CA that he is gay and has struggled to keep the issue from affecting his public life as mayor of Mississippi's third-largest city.


    25, Male, CA-24, DK Elections Black Caucus Chair.

    by DrPhillips on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:04:24 AM PST

  •  WI Supreme Court: Gableman ethical troubles? (3+ / 0-)
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    Setsuna Mudo, KingofSpades, MichaelNY

    This is a very interesting article about Michael Gableman, the most unpleasant, defiant, agressive, and unethical Judge in the state of Wisconsin.  He race-baited Louis Butler to win the seat.  As unpleasant a person as Justice Prosser is, it is Michael Gableman who is the worst Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice in my opinion.  

    Gableman is Wisconsin's very own Justice Jim Johnson.

    link to article: http://www.jsonline.com/...

    "My name's Dr. Multimillionaire and I kicked your ass." --Rep. Steve Kagen D-WI to Karl Rove

    by walja on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:14:45 AM PST

    •  I read about this on FactCheck (4+ / 0-)
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      itskevin, sawolf, Minnesota Deb, MichaelNY

      Ladies and gentlemen, Exhibit A of why electing judges is a really dumb idea (Prosser being B).

      21, male, RI-01 (voting) IL-01 (college), hopeless Swingnut

      by sapelcovits on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 09:28:09 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I'm beginning to think (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        MichaelNY

        That selection of judges needs to be some mix of voting and appointments.  Obviously appointments with confirmation seem to work well, but then we just end up with our fantastic Supreme Court we have now 9sarcasm) so that makes me unhappy.  Straight elections lead to some very right wing courts in states so that's not helpful too.

        Maybe do what "Dancing with the Stars" does, make 50% of the selection based on voting of the people and 50% based the scores of an independent judicial rating service....if one exists.

  •  Raul Labrador (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Setsuna Mudo, MichaelNY

    I know very little about this guy, but I do remember an appearance on one of the Sunday shows, I think "Meet the Press," where he was discussing deficits and debt. He commented that President Obama and the Democrats hadn't done much of anything, whereas the Republicans had come up with a plan and passed it in order to tackle the biggest part of the problem in the future, health care. He was, of course, referring to the Ryan plan. Regardless of your feelings on it, to almost blithely state that a solution was unfairly rejected when it was a massive change to the nation's most significant program is ludicrously disingenuous. It's as if the Democrats were criticizing the Republicans for not taking climate change seriously and not agreeing to their plan when their plan was nationalizing the entire energy industry.  

  •  WI-1: Paul Ryan v. Rob Zerban (3+ / 0-)

    Rob Zerban continues to press Paul Ryan.  I've sent Zerban a contribution already so I am doing my share :)

    link: http://gazettextra.com/...

    "My name's Dr. Multimillionaire and I kicked your ass." --Rep. Steve Kagen D-WI to Karl Rove

    by walja on Fri Dec 16, 2011 at 08:51:57 AM PST

  •  Former heads of Fannie/Freddie charged (3+ / 0-)
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    Setsuna Mudo, HoosierD42, MichaelNY

    The former heads of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac charged with securities fraud.

     So get ready Iowans, you're going to see a lot of ads featuring Newt and the 3 heads of Freddie charged today in ads for the next 2 weeks +.

  •  Why does it seem every 10 year cycle is the same. (6+ / 0-)

    Republicans Gerrymander the district maps, assume power, screw everything up so bad they get kicked out of power, then 2 years later everyone forgets how bad they screwed everything up and vote them back in just in time for redistricting again.

  •  This is the same Vernon Robinson got his.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Setsuna Mudo, MichaelNY

    ass served on a silver platter by Keith Olbermann on MSNBC Countdown's WPITW segment.

    This Vernon guy is one happy meal away to be locked up in a mental institution.

  •  Rs need new message, economy improved with BO (2+ / 0-)
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    Setsuna Mudo, MichaelNY
  •  This AD rather show the hyprocrisy of ANTIs (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Setsuna Mudo

    He's complaining about spending money of those cute little white babies born out of wedlock, but I thought those so-called Lifers loved those babies. Oh no, I forgot it just in they are  a fetus in the womb.

  •  So where can I get the pic of that guy cr@pping on (0+ / 0-)

    the flag?  (I.E., in the Vernon Robinson commercial?)

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