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Hi All! I've started a new diet exactly 2 weeks ago, and was wondering if anyone else is "slimming" now that the holidays are over? I'd love to find some other people in the community to buddy up with, because I have a significant amount of weight to lose to get to my goal (110 pounds from my starting weight, which I'm too embarrassed to print here for the whole internets to see) and I'm going to be on this for a long, looooong time.

So far, the last two weeks for me went pretty well. I had been unhappy with myself for several months, and even tried to cut back, eat healthier, take better control of my habits, excercise more... but finally I stopped procrastinating and made the decision that I'd start as soon as the holidays were over.

Money is very tight for our family right now, since I've been unemployed for months, but I put away my birthday and Christmas money, and instead of spending it on anything else, I decided I would give myself the gift of health this year. I split it (not evenly) on three things: 3-months (discounted if you buy them in advance) at Weight Watchers Meetings (I need the official scale to keep me honest), the WW e-tools membership, and a very, very cheap discontinued treadmill so that I have no excuse about "being unable to get to the gym".

I'm not promoting WW to anyone, it's just that about 10 years ago, after I had my daughter, I lost 79 pounds on their program before getting "burned out" and giving up when I hit a plateau. (Let's just say I need to lose 69 of those 79 pounds all over again, 10 years later). I never made it to goal last time. I want this time to be different, and not make the same mistakes again. The program has also changed a lot since I was on it last - damned corporate bastards, all the old cookbooks and recipes I had are different values now, because they have this new PointsPlus plan, and I'm having to relearn everything.

Today I got my first star sticker - I've lost 6.2 pounds in the last 2 weeks. Given that a healthy weight loss is about 2 pounds per week, I won't be seeing that rate all the time, and I'm expect that this will take me about 14 months, if I can really stick to it. Would anyone like to join me? Even if you only have 10 pounds to get to your own goal, I'd love the company.

Thanks all,

Cinnamon

Originally posted to Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:39 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (28+ / 0-)

    "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

    by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:39:22 AM PST

  •  There used to be a WHEE group at teh GOS (6+ / 0-)

    modeled after GUS. It was tag centered and I have added it to yours in the hope that more of the previous group will see it.

    WHEE (Weight, Health, Eating and Exercise)

    •  Thanks aoeu, I didn't know :) (3+ / 0-)
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      allergywoman, Alexandra Lynch, hazey

      guess I was still nom-nom-noming down bernaise sauce and steak when the group was active, lol.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:52:40 AM PST

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      •  Nearly five hundred diaries worth, so far . . . (4+ / 0-)

        You may want to try and reuse some of their Chrome. They produced a useful body of work.

      •  I have been (1+ / 0-)
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        Alexandra Lynch

        doing something different that has worked for me, reverting to old fashioned diets. I eat a lot of comfort food in the winter, which ironically, helps me trim down.

        Yesterday I did an indoor "spin" on my bike for an hour and a half. Afterwords I had a few nuts and a bowl of chicken chowder I made from scratch. Even though I had really worked hard I didn't feel hungry after that bowl of chowder, it "stuck to my ribs" as the old saying went.

        The secret is not doing  the low fat version, I used 3 bacon strips and light cream. I used corn, one sweet potatoe, one regular potatoe, an onion and a parsnip. I just started using parsnips, they are very sweet and just one can add a faint sweetness to a batch that yields 6 servings. And some chicken of course. But it's the fat that combined with fiber and some protein that really helps one feel full. The low fat version of that recipe has about 300 calories, my version 400 to 450? If one eats the low fat version you will get hungry again after exercising hard like that, I didn't.  

        However, I do make sure I am eating animals that are allowed to grow naturally instead of having corn shoveled into them, and use dairy products from pastured cows. Pasture raised beef has the same fat profiles as elk, it's the horrible diets factory raised animal consume that is the problem.

        Fat works for me so I use olive oil for most of my frying, eat nuts, avocados, and other healthy fats.

        So trimming down in the winter works for me because old fashioned winter foods are satisfying in amounts that are fairly low calorie.

        Another favorite is chili made with pasture raised beef. 300 calories and you are full all night.

        3 years ago I weighed 40 pounds more. I got it off by cycling and finding a way of eating that I could really enjoy that was good for me.

        This winter I am trying to take off another 10 pounds in order to have an easier time riding uphill when I can ride outside again. The combo of spinning 3 - 4 times a week and comfort foods and I am slimming right down again.

        Lots of old fashioned solutions may be better solutions than the constantly shifting sands of modern "experts".

    •  Have added the WHEE tag to my page n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      Alexandra Lynch
  •  Walking and climbing stairs while cutting back on (5+ / 0-)

    all but basic food--in small portions.  I started Jan 16 and need to lose 80 pounds I have gained over 12 years.
    We can do it.

  •  so there wasn't another similar group on dkos? (4+ / 0-)
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    Cinnamon, Bronx59, Alexandra Lynch, hazey

    anyway, i switched from whole milk yogurt to non-fat and lost 6 pounds the last three weeks without any changes in anything else. i haven't exercised any more these last few weeks.

    now i have plateaued so I'll have to figure out something else to do.

    •  My first thought was.. (3+ / 0-)
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      Alexandra Lynch, shari, hazey

      wow, you must drink a lot of milk! But then again, given how little I drink, I'm tring to force myself to complete the "requirement" of two per day that WW wants us to have.  

      I hate excercise. But after working in a senior center, I've woken up to the fact that it's the fountain of youth... only if you do it BEFORE you hit your golden years.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 09:59:33 AM PST

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      •  "requirement" (3+ / 0-)
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        Alexandra Lynch, SuWho, shari

        i can't stand milk.

        something designed for baby cows to quadruple their weight in their first year seems like a terrible idea to drink.

        that said, i've gotten used to making a protein shake with milk after work outs, and i eat string cheese to try and get whatever goodness comes from dairy.

        We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

        by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:06:03 AM PST

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        •  I don't mind those Lite&Fit yogurts (2+ / 0-)
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          shari, Alexandra Lynch

          they are fat free. My kid eats them up though so I end up running out before the next shopping trip.

          "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

          by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:58:04 AM PST

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          •  yogurt (6+ / 0-)

            i feel lucky that i do like yogurt. gives me one more option of food to eat that's healthy.

            i've found that raw, unsalted almonds and some dried cranberries pair well together as a great snack.

            also, prunes and a dab of peanut butter is like a tiny, breadless PBJ. super tasty. you can call them "dried plums" if prunes carries a bad connotation for you :)

            personally, i'm eating a ridiculous amount of protein every day. the dried plums help.

            i'm taking a one a day men's vitamin, glucosamine (no previous knee issues, but i'm doing a lot of jumping up and down and i figured a joint supplement would help), and a magnesium supplement (helps with cramps, soreness, and GI issues).

            i'm not specifically recommending p90x to anyone, it's just a workout routine that can be done at home with minimal equipment. i like it, but really i was just in the right spot personally to start something like this. for the previous year, my relationship with food had gone south. i was eating once a day, enough to keep from being a mean ol' bear, and drinking a lot of coffee. i didn't care about food, which i think helped me when i decided to completely change my eating habits. i gave or threw away allmy bad foods and started eating right and working out on dec 6, 2011.

            i am not a poster child for health or working out. i have never played sports. i'm a giant nerd involved in comic books and costuming/painting/sculpting. not a gym rat.
            if i can pick up and make these sweeping changes, i believe anyone can.

            for me, it was about finally being tired of over 3 decades of shame and self loathing.

            We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

            by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:11:31 AM PST

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        •  I can't stand milk either... (5+ / 0-)

          and I don't care if it's a requirement. I lost 80 pounds 12 years ago with the old WW method and still use that. I am in the process of losing 60 pounds, have actually lost 48 so far. I have an app on my iphone to track points and faithfully put them in there every time I eat anything, and we joined a gym in August, go every other day. It's totally possible to lose weight, but it does get really hard when I hit a plateau and just can't make that damn scale budge for a week or two. I am also very sensitive to salt and try hard not to go over 1500 mg a day but if you eat out it is often hidden in stuff and that's good for an extra two or three pounds the next morning. Sigh. The other thing I am doing right now is going through my clothes and getting rid of all the bigger stuff, because I don't want it hanging around to give me an "out" if I get careless later on. I am going to keep it off this time!!!

          "We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." Anais Nin

          by SuWho on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:21:25 AM PST

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  •  Need to lose 25+ pounds (3+ / 0-)
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    Alexandra Lynch, Cinnamon, hazey

    ...to go on a summer hike.  45 pounds would be better.  

    I'd check in or join an existing group.  

  •  i recently went on the juice fast (2+ / 0-)
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    Cinnamon, Alexandra Lynch

    and lost 17 pounds in 2 weeks.

    i've found, however, in order to KEEP those pounds off, i need to repeat the fast quarterly because after 3 or 4 months the pounds just LOVE to come sneaking back.

    hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

    by alguien on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:02:06 AM PST

    •  yikes, that sounds.. intense (2+ / 0-)
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      alguien, Alexandra Lynch

      As much as I'd love to drop it that fast, ... um... that must've been a lot of  um, "bathroom time"

      could you even leave the house?

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:06:07 AM PST

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      •  after 2 or 3 days it's fine (1+ / 0-)
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        Alexandra Lynch

        one does get tired of drinking quarts of vegetable juice for all that time.  for me, since i tend to have intestinal issues, it was absolutely great because i hadn't felt so cleaned out in years.  but i did find myself craving all the food that everyone else was eating too.

        one of the important things about the juice fast is that it gives your organs a nice chance to take a break since you're pretty much consuming nothing but nutrients which leaves your innards with a lot less to filter out.  after 2 weeks of this, your organs are pretty darned clean.

        one caveat, however, it's not a cheap way to go.  especially if you want to use organic produce for your juice making it can get pretty pricey.

        otherwise, i definitely recommend it.

        hope springs eternal and DAMN is she getting tired!

        by alguien on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:10:03 AM PST

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  •  i'm 7 weeks into (4+ / 0-)

    a diet/exercise plan (p90x). it's rough, i've shifted my eating habits considerably and am exercising about an hour to an hour and a half a day, 6 days a week.

    my entire life i've eaten like a 5 year old: no veggies really, no salads, lots of brown fried foods. lots of bread.

    my meals now are salads, a metric ton of protein, and a lot of water. i drink v8 to shore up my veggies (low sodium v8). i think it's disgusting (akin of straining and drinking a can of spaghetti-o's) but if college taught me anything it's how to down a pint of something.

    i also quit smoking about a year and a half ago.
    (i didn't join the GUS group because talking about quitting cigs just makes me think about cigs...)

    so far, i've lost 15 lbs and 3.5% of my body fat.

    good luck with your goal! you can do it. I managed to take what i needed to my mom's for xmas and get it done there (and also managed to not eat a single xmas goodie or splurge on unhealthy food). it's just one time, this one year, so that you're in the shape you always wanted to be in. (i was a fat kid and have never completely lost all my fat, or my shame...i don't go to the pool or the waterpark and family beach trips are like a time machine back to junior high misery.)

    keep going! you CAN make it happen.

    We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

    by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:02:44 AM PST

    •  Thanks so much papa monzano! (3+ / 0-)
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      Alexandra Lynch, SuWho, papa monzano

      you probably added a lot of muscle - the 15 down is probably not all you've lost! I've heard that p90x workout is absolutely amazing, a total body-sculpting program.

      When I'm further along, and in at least moderate shape, it's what I'm hoping to do as my plateau-busting strategy. A treadmill is good for a bad knee and moving from sedentary to active. p90x seems like tthe step up from active to athletic.

      Congrats on quitting smoking!! I did it back in 1997, best thing ever. Hardest thing ever, too. Makes dieting look like a day at a spa. Went cold turkey - for the first 3 weeks, the cravings were every 2 minutes. After I got past that, they went down to one an hour (huge significant difference I've never forgotten). A month later and I was only having them maybe once a week, if we went out to a bar. Now I don't know why I ever touched the evil things in the first place. Your smart to identify a trigger like that - you don't quit smoking once, you quit it every time you resist the urge to smoke. The upside is, the actual physical addiction leaves in less than a month, if you don't "renew" it by slipping. Youre very smart to do exercise instead.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:20:40 AM PST

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      •  cold turkey (2+ / 0-)
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        Cinnamon, SuWho

        yeah, i didn't see the point in prolonging the nicotine addiction by using the patches or whatever. i had only smoked for 7 years, though (started during a divorce). my friends who started in hs have a much harder time breaking all the routines.

        it's tough. i still occassionally want a cig (perversely, when i found out my stepfather had lung cancer, the stress made me immediately want the least appropriate thing - stepfather is now all clear, no cancer, btw).
        there's nothing quite like the feeling that your thoughts/feelings are not under your control. it's true, you stop smoking everytime you refuse to have a cig.

        true chemical addiction is a bitch. I find cigs are my way to deal with social anxiety, and i have to admit that being out socially is incredibly difficult for me without them, even now (i don't so much want a cig as i want a reason to walk away from the crowd for a while without being the weirdo standing alone outside a bar for 10 minutes)

        as for p90x, it is incredibly grueling. even the yoga is a beast (that's today for me). i would recommend doing it with a partner if possible, for motivation.
        There is a Power90 program that prefaces p90x. if your knee gives you any problems, i would go with power90 instead. p90x involves a day of "plyometrics", which is a fancy way to say "do jumping squats for an hour". I don't have any joint issues previously, and it's still tough as hell.

        and yes, i'm far stronger than i was 7 weeks ago. the numerical weight loss is only half the story. my gf is doing this with me, she hasn't lost much on the scale, but she's down 4 inches around her belly button. apparently the weight-loss secret that had eluded me my entire life was healthy food and exercise. :)

        We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

        by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:41:00 AM PST

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        •  jumping squats for an hour... (1+ / 0-)
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          SuWho

          yeeeeaaaaaah, I'm gonna be holding of on the uberworkouts for a while. I tink I might need to get health insurance and have the cardiologist in the room before I even open the p90x box, LOL!

          4 inches.. that would be nice. Sigh.

          No change that - that WILL be nice!  No sigh.

          My daughter has social issues. I used to have that kind of sensitivity where I just needed a break if things were noisy or crowded. A non-smoking way to get away is to let everyone think you are waiting for a work voicemail, about a fedex that was supposed to be delivered, and just say you need to step out so you can check your work's system away from the noise. You can use the excuse several times in the same night because "Nope, still not there yet".

          "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

          by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:52:48 AM PST

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          •  ooooh that's good! (1+ / 0-)
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            SuWho

            i may try that.

            i remember seeing a commercial a while back about quitting, where a guy was ostricized out on a balcony... "tired of being the lonely smoker, trapped outside the party?" and i thought "no, that's specifically why i smoke".

            sometimes i think the people in charge of quitting campaigns have never been hooked. those "i'm your red light cigarette, find a new way to cope" billboards just make me think "mmmm...red light cigarette".

            We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

            by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:00:29 AM PST

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        •  did you hear (1+ / 0-)
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          Alexandra Lynch

          in the sequel p90x 2 they decided to make plyometrics even worse?

          Tony changed it to what is now lovingly called "plyocide"!

          It's supposed to make plyoX look like childs play.

          I have to say I'm intrigued!

          My name is Legion, for we are many

          by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:17:27 PM PST

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    •  Papa, try the v-8 with a mozzarella (1+ / 0-)
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      Alexandra Lynch

      cheesestick, they go together really well. I know, I like the full sodium v-8's better too, but we gotta do what we gotta do to get this weight off!

      "We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." Anais Nin

      by SuWho on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:26:24 AM PST

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      •  cheesestick def helps (1+ / 0-)
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        Alexandra Lynch

        i drink them in one go, though, and move on to some other taste.

        the full sodium are somewhat better tasting
        (i don't care for tomato juice, tomato soup, tomatoes themselves...i order pizza with light sauce. well, i did, back when i ordered pizza :)

        when i started this program, i had no idea there was an "unhealthy" v8 i could accidentally buy!

        We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

        by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:30:17 AM PST

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    •  p90x grad here! (2+ / 0-)
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      papa monzano, Cinnamon

      I'm on cycle #2 week 4 (Core Synergistics).

      Congrats on coming this far. Some thoughts for you from someone who has already walked that path:

      1) You're 7 weeks out? Great, 8 weeks is when I finally started noticing a huge difference in my appearance. The first 4 weeks felt like all the change was inside, the next 4 I started to see a slight difference, and when I hit day 60 I said to myself 'whoa! there's what I've been waiting to see!'

      2) by now you already know this but the key to staying on the nutritional program is food access. I found it was essential that I keep meals in the house ready to be made. If I got hungry and the fridge was empty then that is when I would hit the fast food. I could not be hungry, go to the grocery store, drive home, and make the meal.  Planning ahead was key.  On the flip side of that coin is keeping bad food OUT of the house. Once it gets inside, it's only a matter of time before you are chewing on it.

      3) Careful about your 'graduation day'. I celebrated and took a week off. That turned into two weeks. I had dropped down to 13% body fat by day 90 (from 26% day 0) and I told myself 'damn! I guess I didn't need to be so crazy about the p90x diet'.  A little loosening of the diet restrictions and two weeks off and suddenly I had put on some of the weight and lost A LOT of my strength.  Especially in my back.  By the time I decided to begin cycle #2 of p90x I was back down to day 0 weights and reps.  It came back faster, but it was very depressing to see how fast I lost it on that first day of cycle #2.

      I'm now at day 22 of cycle #2 and I'm almost back to day90 strength and stamina.  So like I say, it came back faster.  What I've learned from all of this is just like the nutritional program-it's a lifestyle, not a temporary thing.  Just as a "diet" is a temporary loss of weight so is p90x a temporary gain of strength and endurance.  Both need to become permanent fixtures in your lifestyle if you wish to keep it.  Otherwise it's like renting a sports car-it's sad having to hand over the keys when the time is up.

      The other important thing I've learned is this: I know what it's like to be out of shape, and I know what it's like to be in shape. I also know what it's like to be in shape and watch it quickly slip away.  After all those experiences I've realized that what I give up (tasty food, laziness) and what I have to endure (perpetual muscle soreness, attention to food choices) is BY FAR worth it!  Cookies, cakes, pizza etc. are no comparison to the feeling of confidence you can have walking around w/o a shirt on.

      My goal for cycle #2 is more muscle bulk and the ever elusive washboard abs. (<10% body fat is where all 6 can be seen generally)

      My name is Legion, for we are many

      by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:10:14 PM PST

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      •  2nd round! baaaaadaaaaaaaaa$. (1+ / 0-)
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        Cookies, cakes, pizza etc. are no comparison to the feeling of confidence you can have walking around w/o a shirt on.

        that statement there sums it up for me.

        the friend who got me to try p90 has done it 3 times now. he's about 5'10, started at 270 and is a wirey muscley guy now. he lost weight so fast in the first round that coworkers thought he had cancer.

        next week will be our second recovery week...i can definitely see a difference already, but i have to say i'm excited to hear that the results keep coming in the final stage. :)

        agreed about the food...i simply got everything i can't have out of the house. i keep to a monthly budget, and increased my food budget by a bit to compensate for the loss of dollar menus in exchange for fresh produce. it's pricier, but worth it.

        tomorrow i'm prepping nearly a weeks worth of meals. it's the only way i can do it. i haven't caved on the diet or the workouts at all (honestly, having gone through xthe holidays without screwing up gives me the strength to push through a crappy random wednesday) but i have worked out at 10pm (then was wired and up waaay too late) and have had to prep a lunch for tomorrow at midnight (that sucked).

        i can't cave or slack. i've despised myself physically since puberty, and i'm sick of it. i feel like i'm letting that part of myself that's always been depressed and suicidal and self-loathing just go ahead and die, and the me that's left is just the kick-ass parts. from here on out if life gives me lemons i'm liable to beat life's ass.

        odd aside: we set our day off to be monday. i work a salaried m-f job, and it's great to know on a monday that i don't have to do anything except maybe stretch after work.

        We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

        by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:51:00 PM PST

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        •  people talk about "cheat days" (0+ / 0-)

          I've heard different versions. The one I strongly disagree with is the 'one day eat whatever you want' cheat day. I think that is asking for trouble.

          What I do to keep myself from going crazy is I have one day where I get that 1 thing I've wanted all week (within reason). For example, I love the chocolate chunk cookies they sell at Starbucks. One day a week (usually a weekend) I get a cookie with my coffee.  Or, maybe I'll get a chipotle burrito instead of a turkey sandwhich.  After that one ticket is cashed for the week then its 6 more days of health food.

          That way I get the occasional treat without harming my diet.  As long as its just once there's no risk of me falling off the wagon.  But I've found as soon as I insert that second time everything goes to hell. Slippery slopes when you invent an excuse for the second time.

          Another thing I do to beat cravings is I make a mental note of how I feel having passed up fast food and eaten good food at home. I ask myself 'now, do you still feel like you needed that fast food?' and my answer is always 'no'. Because I feel full.  The cravings are a FALSE SENSE OF NEED due to hunger.  Once I eat good food at home I feel just fine. I can't even understand why I craved fast food just an hour earlier.  That to me is the key to beating the mental chess game that is bad food cravings. Ignore how you feel when you want it, but focus on how you feel after you've passed it up and eaten a normal meal.

          My name is Legion, for we are many

          by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:03:14 PM PST

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          •  eating (0+ / 0-)

            eating, for me, had become a thing i did when i was starving, fullfilled emotionally (my day sucked, i'mma stop at fast food chain x and get a box of brown fried crap x). after eating i always felt super full and nearly ill.

            now, i feel fueled up and ready to go. food is fuel. would I like to have a burger from Burger Tex and some old school cafeteria fries? Yeah. Hell yeah. But i'm not close enough to my goal to fit that in yet, and I'm enjoying not needing a coma after every meal.

            We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

            by papa monzano on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 07:04:57 AM PST

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      •  Your thought #2 (1+ / 0-)
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        is key to any successful change in eating if you want it to become a new way of eating instead of a temporary diet.  And just reading about your physical activity makes me tired :)  OK. I have anemia, but still.

  •  I prefer "getting in shape." (1+ / 0-)
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    Weight loss, dieting, all make me hungry. :)

    Go ahead, buy my husband's art. Please. http://www.etsy.com/shop/Windthin?ref=ss_profile

    by allergywoman on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:11:08 AM PST

    •  The funny (or not so funny) thing is that it's the (3+ / 0-)

      hunger from dieting - eating less - that keeps people from dieting.  The Atkinson diet works well early on because there is less hunger at the start of dieting than there is with overall cuts in calories.

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:20:18 AM PST

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    •  LOL! (2+ / 0-)
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      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:22:52 AM PST

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      •  Use what works. (2+ / 0-)
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        If weight loss motivates you, Gods bless you. Use it. For me, all it does is make me feel like I'm going to starve. :)

        Go ahead, buy my husband's art. Please. http://www.etsy.com/shop/Windthin?ref=ss_profile

        by allergywoman on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:32:07 AM PST

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        •  Hungary is how cutting calories makes me feel. (3+ / 0-)

          So when I decided to lose my extra weight I knew cutting calories wouldn't work for me.  I also knew I couldn't exercise because of anemia and other health issues (Dr.'s orders).  Cutting carbohydrates has worked really well for me.  My first step was to give up sugar, grains, potatoes, and most fruit.  It was difficult for the first 2 weeks, then I no longer craved those things.  Getting into and staying in ketosis is key.  I eat unlimited protein, unlimited lower carb veggies.  I  eat moderate amounts of nuts, berries, dairy (no milk, too high in carbs).  Cheese is good in moderation and it keeps me sane in my new way of eating.  Fats are your friend if you are low carbing, as long they are the healthier fats.  Fats help to keep me satiated and have helped me lose 50 pounds (even without exercising).  Occasionally I miss bread because it is a comfort food for me (especially when I smell it toasting), but I really feel like I can continue to eat in this new way for the rest of my life.

  •  I'm in (3+ / 0-)
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    Ive had a weight prob for a long time

    •  Cool! Welcome billydelawder! (2+ / 0-)
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      Me too - 10 years of it all creeping back on me. Then the heart palpitations started last spring, and I can't afford insurance.

      That wake-up call was loud and clear.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:25:29 AM PST

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  •  Why do you think Kos needs to lose weight? (7+ / 0-)

    (I'm joking, of course.)

    For me, it's walking, walking, and walking. I leave the car parked on the weekend, or try to, and I live in nothingness, so that means I'll break my rule for church or groceries only.

    Also, I skip supper routinely and will opt for pickles and other objects that hardly count as food. The biggest thing, though, is to not make it a diet. If it's a diet, it's a remedy, and weight loss has to be a change.

    If it's a change, it means not worrying much about this deviation or that, but rather what the new "normal" is.

    That said, I've only managed 40 lbs. in 6 mo. (male, and we can hide it better than women, but not as well as we inevitably think).

    Every reductio ad absurdum will seem like a good idea to some fool or another.

    by The Geogre on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:20:00 AM PST

    •  Oh sh*t. Oops. (4+ / 0-)

      From lifetime member to banned in less than a month... that would be my luck.

      And no, I don't think Kos needs to lose weight. I think he might weigh about as much as ONE of my thunder thighs. If he had a big lunch.

      40 lbs in 6 months is awesome! It's only 24 weeks - you are right on target for healthy weight loss. I totally agree on pickles, too, for some reason they are so much more satisfying than just plain veggies. I'm addicted to Claussen kosher minis - they have a lot of garlic in the brine.

      walking, I hafta say, is the one excercise that I don't find "too scary" and, if I have a tv on, i can zone out and the time goes faster.

      I want this to be my new normal.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:32:58 AM PST

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    •  "Delete my f*king bellyroll, Kos!" (8+ / 0-)

      Had to say it.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:59:46 AM PST

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  •  I have challenges in weight loss (2+ / 0-)
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    as currently my metabolism is in the basement, due to not being on my thyroid meds, and I have orthopedic issues.

    however, once I get paid for a couple jobs I have done, I will be able to go to the doctor and get back on my meds, and start working on weight loss.

    I have about eighty pounds to lose, which would drop me to 180. That probably still counts as overweight at 5'7", but I am built with spectacular curves, and don't want to lose those. I admit that I will be dieting with the aid of amphetamines, but primarily what they do is to give me more ability to focus on what my actual goals are in this, as opposed to, "I could have a second helping." (I am actually taking them for severe ADHD.) The disinterest in food fades off pretty fast.

    I do yoga twice a day as my exercise, and it is useful not only because it stretches and tones but because it calls you to be present with and mindful of your body. Indeed, as I work on yin practices to deal with contractures, I find myself overwhelmed with emotion and weeping as the contracture loosens. Not from pain, but apparently from having stored that emotion in my body.  Apparently I am working on more than just the obvious.

    When you come to find how essential the comfort of a well-kept home is to the bodily strength and good conditions, to a sound mind and spirit, and useful days, you will reverence the good housekeeper as I do above artist or poet, beauty or genius.

    by Alexandra Lynch on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:32:46 AM PST

    •  So true! (2+ / 0-)
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      probably still counts as overweight at 5'7", but I am built with spectacular curves, and don't want to lose those.

      I swear, every time I lose weight, it comes right off from the parts that I want to stay curvy and last fromthe places I wish didn't bulge so much!

      It sounds like we're just around the same size. I've thought about yoga too, since it's non-impact (anything to save the damned knee). I'm going to have to google contractures, because I have no idea what they are.

      My daughter has ADHD, her med for that kills her appetite, but "luckily" she also has ODD and other issues and the secondary med she's on ramps it up - so she stays around a healthy weight, without my issues.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:41:56 AM PST

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      •  I'm an F cup with ass to match, so I can afford (0+ / 0-)

        to lose a little there. I wouldn't mind being able to buy a bra at a regular store for twenty bucks, as opposed to a specialty shop for sixty.

        The other reason I want to lose weight is I want plastic surgery on my midsection to deal with the stretched skin from pregnancy and weight gain, and that won't happen without being down to something within the guidelines. I know it's stretched skin because fat doesn't compress, and in a real corset I can go from 51 inches in the waist to 38.

        When you come to find how essential the comfort of a well-kept home is to the bodily strength and good conditions, to a sound mind and spirit, and useful days, you will reverence the good housekeeper as I do above artist or poet, beauty or genius.

        by Alexandra Lynch on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:01:36 AM PST

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        •  Ah-ha! Another Rennfaire fan? (1+ / 0-)
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          There is nothing like a good steel-boned  corset. The next one I invest in is going to be emerald green, and have celtic embroidery. I ws drooling over it all this past season.

          "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

          by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:06:35 AM PST

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          •  Historical and fetish, but yeah. (0+ / 0-)

            Given the high hip, I'm going to have to drop serious money in custom pieces. Off the rack works but rubs on that hip after about four hours.

            I have the body for an S-bend, and I'd purely love to own one and the outfit that goes with it. Talk about a reward for weight loss! cause you don't invest money in that much fabric if you're not going to stay that size.

            When you come to find how essential the comfort of a well-kept home is to the bodily strength and good conditions, to a sound mind and spirit, and useful days, you will reverence the good housekeeper as I do above artist or poet, beauty or genius.

            by Alexandra Lynch on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 05:49:47 AM PST

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      •  Contractures are places where (1+ / 0-)
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        a muscle or ligament has shortened itself up in response to not being used fully.  I have severe orthopedic issues in my foot, and of course that has caused issues all the way up that leg, in my pelvis, and in my lower back. I now have one high hip and lumbar scoliosis thanks to the foot injury. Blah.

        I really recommend Iyengar yoga, because that form tells you how to use straps and blocks to maintain form when you can't reach, and you just do what you can, each day, and gradually it gets easier. I lost twenty pounds and five sizes last time I was on medication dealing with yoga, and frankly I'm not as worried about poundage as I am looking good dressed.

        When you come to find how essential the comfort of a well-kept home is to the bodily strength and good conditions, to a sound mind and spirit, and useful days, you will reverence the good housekeeper as I do above artist or poet, beauty or genius.

        by Alexandra Lynch on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:05:35 AM PST

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        •  yoga (1+ / 0-)
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          agreed. yoga is both workout and recovery in one. a block is essential for me to be able to do my best at the positions, and i've eventually gotten better at them so i need the block less.

          i did think it was silly to buy a foam block. my gf assured me it was a good item. she was right, she usually is :)

          We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

          by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:20:28 AM PST

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  •  Republished to (1+ / 0-)
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    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:40:46 AM PST

  •  asdf (1+ / 0-)
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    For me, it's an ongoing goal. Craigslist is a great source for inexpensive ($20-$50) used exercise equipment. I've set up a few things (Gazelle, PowerGlide) in the basement laundry room so I don't have to exercise outdoors in this frigid weather. I'm hoping to get an actual treadmill some time.

    Weathering Michigan's recessions since the '70s.

    by jennifree2bme on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:41:17 AM PST

  •  asdf (2+ / 0-)
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    Weathering Michigan's recessions since the '70s.

    by jennifree2bme on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:43:29 AM PST

  •  well (2+ / 0-)
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    don't hate me, but I've lost 20 lbs in the last 2 months, without really trying.  Never had that experience before.  

     I call it the "lust diet" because there's this guy...  long story.

    However, I still have at least ten more to go, and need to step up my exercise program because he's significantly younger. :-)

    So I'm in.

    There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

    by puzzled on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:12:28 AM PST

    •  Shirley Valentine called it "The F Plan"? (2+ / 0-)
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      There is nothing like a younger guy... (grin). My own hunny is 17 years my junior. God bless him, he loved me when I was fat, he gets to keep me when I'm thin :)

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:16:05 AM PST

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  •  I gotta scoot, guys... (1+ / 0-)
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    Need to pick the kid up from school. Be back later. Thanks so much, everyone!

    "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

    by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:23:17 AM PST

  •  I'm in! (4+ / 0-)

    Trying to lose ten pounds, but this is tricky: I don't want to lose hard-won muscle while I'm at it. I work out about 5 times a week, and am trying to build muscle while losing weight, since obviously, muscle fiber burns calories more efficiently.  
    Your first 5-6 pounds of weight loss are going to be about 2 pounds weight, and the rest water. Don't worry about to occasional plateaus; they will happen, and you have to remember that this is for a lifestyle change; not a diet.
    More later!

    Life is a shipwreck. But we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats. — Voltaire

    by agrenadier on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 11:51:48 AM PST

  •  other to check for me. If it tastes good, spit it (4+ / 0-)

    out.

    •  lol reminds me of what (2+ / 0-)
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      a trainer once said to me:

      "stop thinking of food as anything other than fuel. Eat it because you must, forget about qualifying it by taste"

      Granted this was 'off-the-record' advice he gave me and in response to a very specific request by me. Namely, 'how can I get washboard abs?'

      When he responded by asking me if I put milk in my coffee I knew this wasn't going to be easy.

      My name is Legion, for we are many

      by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:43:55 PM PST

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      •  Have you read (1+ / 0-)
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        The 4-Hour Body?  You might find it interesting.

      •  coffee (0+ / 0-)

        i used to drink a cup of syrup with some coffee flavoring. since starting this, i drink it with a single serving of non-fat, non dairy creamer. it's the furthest compromise i've been able to make.

        good to know about the <10% mark for washboard abs. i'm going there eventually, and when it happens i will probably cry like a child at the realization of that goal.

        We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

        by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:16:53 PM PST

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        •  meaning (0+ / 0-)

          "a cup of syrup with some coffee flavoring" meaning i used to pour enough cream and sugar into a cup of joe to give my whole family type 2 diabetes. drank it constantly. thankfully, sodas were never my bag, but my coffee was candied enough to be a soda.

          We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

          by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:19:00 PM PST

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        •  my first cycle through (0+ / 0-)

          I couldn't do a single pull up at day 1.  By day 90 I could do 8 without any help.  That's not a lot I know. I watch people do 12-15 with weights hanging off of them and that's just fine for them.

          But to go from zero to 8 was incredible.  

          I'm really proud of you and your gf for sticking this thing through.  It really takes over your fricking life with the 6 days a week and the meal planning and all.

          My second cycle through I'm leaving the cardio days out and focusing on the strength training. The cardio I do when I feel like it or else I just consider the 20min treadmill warmup before lifting to be my cardio.  The weight is coming off slower but I'm okay with that. I'm not in a rush. I'm eating right and working out 4 days a week. The fat will burn off.

          My name is Legion, for we are many

          by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 10:11:22 PM PST

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  •  I need to lose another 113 pounds! (6+ / 0-)

    I had a pituitary tumor that raised my cortisol levels and I gained 190 lbs over 8 yrs b4 I was diagnosed. I went from 112 lbs to 310 lbs two days b4 surgery to remove the tumor.

    The hormones cause weight gain, and a ferocious appetite, as well as destroying the metabolism, muscles/bones/sanity, etc!

    So it's been an adventure. I'm 3 yrs post-op, doing SO much better, and I've lost 65 lbs!!!!  I can shave my own legs, put on my own bra (I was too weak to do that prior to surgery), I can paint my own toes, do my own dishes and now I'm walking BRISKLY a mile a day!!!!!!  Feels so wonderful I can't even tell you!

    The metabolism is still whacky, so I still have to eat a lot, and the weight loss is very slow. This last year I averaged about 2.5-3 lbs. per month. But it's happening and my Endocrinologist is thrilled....  so I am too!  

    I eat primarily raw veggies, raw coconut butter and extra virgin olive oil, and cooked meat protein. I eat all of my eggs raw with almond milk in a shake.

    My main carbs get eaten late at night. For some reason (I suspect hormonal as my system is still recovering) I crave them then. So I'll have some crackers, or an apple, or some grapes, or pop in a microwave mac-n-cheese and have a few bites of that!!  Yummmm....

    Anywho, I've given away about 8 boxes of clothes since the surgery. I cry everytime they are taken away. The tumor destroyed my career, most of my friendships, I missed my daughters graduation from college, and my grandmother died and I couldn't visit her because I was bedridden for so many years. So the whole thing is very emotional for me, and a painful part of my life is wrenched from me everytime I give away anything related to that illness. But once it's gone, I feel a huge sense of relief, and like I've taken the next step towards health and regaining me physically and emotionally.

    So here's my goal for 2012. I would like to lose 50 lbs this year!!!!  Don't know if I can do it, but that's what I'm shootin for. I'm going to start doing strength training shortly, and I've already started increasing my walking to 1.5-2 miles per day on days when I have the energy to do so.

    I'd love to touch base with you and encourage each other, etc,  on our adventure!  Congrats on your loss so far!

    "the election of Barack Obama may stand as one of the single most devastating events in our history for civil liberties." Jonathan Turley

    by Lucy2009 on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 12:30:56 PM PST

    •  wow (4+ / 0-)
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      Great story.  Congrats to you--what a roller-coaster ride you've been on.

      Sounds like you know what to do, and I'm sure you'll be able to keep it up and lose those 50 lbs.

      There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

      by puzzled on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 12:58:42 PM PST

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    •  Wow. Way to go. (3+ / 0-)
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      You have made great progress.  It's really hard to be so limited in physical activity and not have control of your life.  And I totally relate to missing important events and the emotional trauma of feeling withdrawn from regular life.  It sounds like you are on the mend and taking back control of your life.  

      I finally got a good diagnosis from a great doctor and spent last year turning my life around.  I had to travel 450 miles once a month to see him which took herculean effort and lots of resources, but worth it.  I still can't exercise but low carbing has helped me lose 50 pounds with only 10 pounds left to lose.

      One thing that helped me was to set small goals so instead of thinking I wanted to lose 50 pounds last year, I would set a goal of losing just 5 pounds with no time limit.  I would say to myself "I will be really happy with myself by losing 5 pounds even if it comes off at a half pound per week."  And when I reached that 5 pounds lost goal, I was really happy and proud of myself.  Then I was ready for the next goal and pretty soon, after about 9 months, I was down 50 pounds.  Don't know if this will work for you, but I wish you well on your journey.

      •  Congratulations!! (1+ / 0-)
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        These bodies can be very tricky sometimes to sort out!   :)

        Thanks for the tip on setting goals. It all helps.  At this point, any weight I lose, I'm very happy about and thankful for!!

        Here's to a great year of increased health, and decreased weight for both of us!      :)     :)

        "the election of Barack Obama may stand as one of the single most devastating events in our history for civil liberties." Jonathan Turley

        by Lucy2009 on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 01:01:39 AM PST

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  •  I'm in, too! (3+ / 0-)
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    How do we start? I've been doing WW and have had good success, but I'm not really very social and don't attend meetings like I should. I haven't done any "joining" things and I think it's high time I started. So, thanks for the right offer at the right time!

    The revolution will start when somebody starts it. Well, somebody started it. OWS. It's on.

    by lexalou on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:20:42 PM PST

    •  I only do the meetings for weigh-in (2+ / 0-)
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      I got pulled into the meeting today because the leader asked me to stay for the 5-pound star, then she started late and talked for 2 hours before she finally gave me my damned star sticker and membership book back! I had gotten there at 8:30 for the 8:45 opening, and didn't get back out to my car until 10:55! Needless to say, that was my first and last time staying for a meeting run by that leader.

      I'm only there in person because having to face the scale is hugely motivating for me: it's real and I can't fudge it. I even step on the same scale each week (they have 2 at my site) and wear almost the same outfit.

      I love the e-tools though. Love that I can even do my tracking on my smart phone.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:09:17 PM PST

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  •  I'm not fouced on weight loss (2+ / 0-)
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    I have 5-6 inches on my waistline that are the target.

    When I start going to the gym more often, I gain weight and retain shape, but kinda like the being stronger part.

    I want to push both the diet and exercise for a more fit and healthy me.

    "All things are not equally true. It is time to face reality." -Al Gore

    by Geek of all trades on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:24:42 PM PST

  •  a few points (3+ / 0-)
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    I won't call them tricks, because they're just changes.
    * I find it very helpful to have more protein than carbs in my diet. I only have carbs after lifting weights. I have also used the South Beach diet (though a less radical version, since I need coffee in the morning!) to jump-start my diet. The focus on protein has its basis in the GI Diet, and your glycemic levels. South Beach immediately targets the belly area, so a lot of people find that builds in a lot of incentive to continue.
    * I seldom eat anything after 7:30pm.
    * Has anyone considered WeightWatchers online? Some colleagues are doing it, and find the point system a good way to keep track of their intake.
    * Don't beat yourself up about gaining a pound or two! Keep your eye on the big picture.
    * Any other writers out there? I find I get very noshy when I'm doing original work that requires a ton of thinking, as opposed to just editing. In those cases, I eat nuts; about 1/4 cup of walnuts, or pistachios, since they take a few seconds to open.
    If any of you don't have a gym nearby, what are you doing for your cardio/weights?

    Life is a shipwreck. But we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats. — Voltaire

    by agrenadier on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:47:48 PM PST

    •  Thanks very much! (1+ / 0-)
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      And yes, I do WW online, as well as the meetings. I love the tools.

      I really like the new PointsPlus system because there's more emphasis on choosing "good" carbs (whole grains, potatoes) at lower points than junk calories like booze and sugars. I'm still losing the weight, too, even if I decide to have a bad night and make my "dinner" a giant bowl of popcorn and save the points for another glass of wine.

      And putting bananas as 0 is such a kindness - nothing is more filling and easy than grabbing a banana when you are hungry. I'm now eating them at least every other day.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:16:08 PM PST

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      •  bananas and peanut butter! (0+ / 0-)

        Yesss! Mid-morning or late-afternoon snack. Bananas are also very important for potassium.
        Here's another thing that I found helped my workout: a cup of Spiru-Teen protein shake before the gym. I also use nuun tablets to hydrate during my cardio; they're really great, have no sugar, only 8 calories, and all the electrolytes you need to make it through.
        For several years, I have heard that weight gain during menopause is a real problem, and I'm trying to bust that myth. I'm 5'8" and 158 lbs, and 55 years old. The reason why I would like to take off ten is because I have lower back issues, and figure that schlepping an additional ten isn't helping.

        Life is a shipwreck. But we must not forget to sing in the lifeboats. — Voltaire

        by agrenadier on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 06:29:35 AM PST

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  •  some people work much (4+ / 0-)
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    better with partners/cooperation.

    Others work well with competition.  When my buddy heard I was starting p90x he decided to get a personal trainer and get in shape too.  We were on opposite sides of the country but were going to meet up in 4 months for a ski trip. It was a constant texting and emailing back and forth of how grueling our workouts were and how much we've gained/lost in strength or fat.  We were always trying to keep the other guy from pulling ahead in the race.  The competition did wonders for our dedication.

    My name is Legion, for we are many

    by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 01:51:43 PM PST

    •  partners (1+ / 0-)
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      hazey

      i have to know that if i skip, i'm letting the other person down. keeps me from letting my depression litany get the best of me and stick me back on the couch.

      We keep electing whores to congress, and we wonder why we get screwed while the money flows to their pimps.

      by papa monzano on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:20:33 PM PST

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  •  I'm a member of the group (2+ / 0-)
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    Weight Loss Kos.  Nobody has posted recently, but it's there and available.

    Strength and dignity are her clothing, she rejoices at the days to come; She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the law of kindness is on her tongue.

    by loggersbrat on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:49:18 PM PST

  •  The first ten pounds are the easiest (4+ / 0-)

    As near as I can figure, those are the pounds of material in your bowel that moves through while you are taking in less food.

    After that, you need to actually work at losing the weight.

    First, do not "reward" yourself for losing some pounds.

    Second, cut out all high fructose corn syrup, and its just as evil twin, high maltose corn syrup. Adopt the following philosophy: If it wasn't food in 1900, it still isn't food today - don't eat it.

    Third, don't get discouraged when you plateau (and you will plateau). Just keep at it.

    Fourth, if you absolutely feel that you need a snack, flavor a quart of water with a tablespoon of lemon juice (no sugar necessary) and drink it all.

    Finally, get some exercise. Go for a walk, Ride a bike. Just get off the sofa for 30 minutes a day.

    I've lost 100 pounds in the last year following this routine and I am feeling a lot better about myself and life in general. My waist has gone from a 54" to a 46" and I still have another 30 pounds to go - I'm aiming at 220 pounds.

    One caveat: People will want to feed you. Your spouse will want to take you to dinner. Your co-workers will want to go to lunch. Your friends will want you to come over for a meal. Do not project evil intent upon them, but limit such excursions to only once a week. Sure, you may gain a pound or so after a meal out, but that's just the nature of civilization - you have to be social. Have a salad without the dressing and don't scold them for trying to kill you (they are, but they just don't know it).

    Good luck.

    Life is hard, it's harder if you're stupid. - John Wayne

    by gilacliff on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 02:54:10 PM PST

    •  I think this is all great (0+ / 0-)

      Except for one small thing: I like rewarding myself for my accomplishments. I find the practice motivating, and it gives me some added incentive and a positive thought to look forward to. Not with food, of course. For each time I hit a 5- or 10-pound numbered milestone, I buy a new pair of sweat-wikking workout socks (instead of the cheapo haines 6 pack), or give myself a face mask and deep conditioning hair treatment, or a new light cookbook or a pedometer.

      I'm already planning that when I get on the other side of "halfway" - the 55 pounds lost mark - I'm going to reward myself and buy that p90x workout that papa monzano and pullbackthecurtain were talking about. By then, I should be active enough and in-shape enough that it will be time to upgrade my workout anyway.

      "When gratitude replaces judgment, peace spreads through your body, gentleness embraces your soul, wisdom fills your mind." - Neale Donald Walsch

      by Cinnamon on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 08:24:56 AM PST

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  •  If I want to keep my inexpensive insurance (2+ / 0-)
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    for 2013, I have to work on getting myself in better shape.  This involves both exercising and volunteering for the program option that looks easiest for me to complete.  I expect NN12 to involve about 5 hours of hard labor for me, if NN11 is anything to go by.

    My belly didn't appreciate all the white flour I ate in December, so I'm going to cut way down on even whole wheat for a while.  I read the book Wheat Belly during the time I was having all the bellyaches, and learned some stuff I had never known before about wheat.

    Recently, I've been sorting through my stack of photocopied and torn-from-magazines and found-on-the-net recipes and getting them organized in useable order.

    Strength and dignity are her clothing, she rejoices at the days to come; She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the law of kindness is on her tongue.

    by loggersbrat on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 03:00:54 PM PST

  •  When I saw this post I was simultaneously curious (3+ / 0-)
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    and scared at the same time.  It's that primeval voice of failure trying to shout down my celestial voice of success.  Crazy how that works.

    I'm reading such great stories of success, challenges, tips, wisdom and am not as freaked out anymore.  Truth be told I'm not a joiner of groups but this one may be different.

    My story: In Aug 2007 I lost about 17 pounds in 3wks.  I called it The Grief Diet b/c my mom passed away in July and I simply had zero appetite and often couldn't manage much more than a handful of soda crackers in a day.  That's what stayed down as most anything else would simply come right back up and out.  I'd been meaning to take weight off so when my pants felt looser, that's when I weighed myself and discovered the loss and figured I'd keep going.

    I refused to go on a structured diet like WW, Jenny Craig, NutraSystem...Personally I don't care for them because I always end up feeling trapped, depressed, then pissed off.  I don't need to pay to be pissed.  If they work for others here, great!

    My approach was to keep it as simple as possible: eat less, move more.  Do one thing til it becomes a habit then move on to the next thing to become a habit.  I also found great value in eating mindfully.  Everything from rediscovering when I'm satisfied, to making sure that the flavor bases of salty, sweet, sour, bitter and umami are covered at some point in the day as much as possible.  I let my body tell me more and more what it wanted to eat and denied myself nothing.  Yep!  That meant if I wanted french fries I ate them.  Funny thing I began to notice that I didn't really like the taste of a lot of stuff like fries, fast food, etc.  Now even the SMELL of McDonald's makes me sick!!

    I lost a total of approx 35 pounds in four months and managed to keep it off until May of 2011.  Ugh!  That's when I got the idiotic idea of trying to go vegetarian, then vegan.  Well I managed to get through the 60 day challenge but honestly, after that point, something in me went snap!!

    After the challenge was over I couldn't shove meat, chicken, fried anything and everything, candy, cakes, processed foods down my gullet fast enough!  It's like I went totally off the reservation on food, food, food!!  And I just kept on going, and going, and going until now.  I guess emotionally I was making up for the vast and intense deprivation I felt putting myself through the idiocy of converting cold turkey to something my body wasn't ready for, let alone desired.  Plus I think there was the crazy notion of contentment I felt being in a solid, long term relationship - and I got lazy and cavalier about what hard work maintaining one's weight really is.

    So here I am.  Back up 30 pounds and wanting to take it off the body again.  So I'm in.

    BTW - I'm 52yrs old, 5' 4" tall and currently weigh in at 182 pounds.  I won't be ashamed.  I spent too many years doing that and I won't go there anymore.  My body is an absolute miracle and so I will care for it again, since I've been a bit negligent, as it has cared for me faithfully and unfailingly all these years.

    When everybody talkin' all at once no one can hear the wise one speak, So just be still and silence will provide the wisdom that you seek - by Tori del Allen

    by Dumas EagerSeton on Fri Jan 20, 2012 at 03:12:04 PM PST

    •  What I love about eating low carb (3+ / 0-)
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      is that I am denying myself certain carbs but I don't feel deprived.  After eating low carb for a couple of weeks my body stopped craving carbs, including sugar.  This was like a miracle to me.  Before I started to eat low carb I too was listening to my body and it was telling me to eat salty, then sweet, then fried, then repeat.  After changing to low carb my body stopped wanting those things.  By reading about eating low carb I learned that the cravings were caused by spikes in insulin production to deal with all the carbs I was eating.  Low carbs = stable insulin = no cravings!  It has worked for me for a year and I feel like it really is a permanent change in how I eat.

      BTW, your stats sound familiar:)

      •  I'm glad this approach is working for you. (0+ / 0-)
        Low carbs = stable insulin = no cravings!  It has worked for me for a year and I feel like it really is a permanent change in how I eat

        Sorry to comment and run, and I don't log on over the weekends as I fast news.  (Can't take too much bad news...Ha!)

        What I see on this sector is a lot of different approaches that seem to be working, or starting to work for people.

        Something that I've not done pretty much ever is eat breakfast consistently as an adult.  That's my first goal, in addition to listening for hunger signals, and satiation again.  I think a lot of my problem when I went nutso was emotional eating/overeating/unwise eating borne of severe deprivation.  I'm certain that's why structured programs never worked for me.  I never get past the feeling of being trapped and stuck.

        Funny how we all relate in different ways to food.

        Good luck to you!

        When everybody talkin' all at once no one can hear the wise one speak, So just be still and silence will provide the wisdom that you seek - by Tori del Allen

        by Dumas EagerSeton on Mon Jan 23, 2012 at 10:11:39 AM PST

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  •  It's not a diet trick for me - I love carrots - (0+ / 0-)

    but snacking on raw veggies (no dip, for my taste) keeps the calorie count down and the fiber count up.

    Also, one thing that invariably works for me, when I actually do it, is drink lots of water.   The tip I ran across is to take half your weight and drink that many ounces of water a day.  2/3 your weight if you exercise enough to work up a hard sweat.

    Strength and dignity are her clothing, she rejoices at the days to come; She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the law of kindness is on her tongue.

    by loggersbrat on Sat Jan 21, 2012 at 05:01:16 PM PST

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