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Originally posted to Comics on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 06:50 AM PST.

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  •  Drone insects serve no useful purpose (3+ / 0-)
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    wader, maryabein, Siri

    There may be a parallel here.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:08:13 AM PST

    •  actually drones (2+ / 0-)
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      wader, splashy

      are fetrile males in a haplodiploid insect system. Without them, there would be no futher generations.

      As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

      by BPARTR on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:15:38 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  fertile males (0+ / 0-)

        As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

        by BPARTR on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:15:59 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Oh, I know (1+ / 0-)
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        maryabein

        They serve exactly ONE purpose then, for a few minutes - mating flight.

        The rest of the time they are burdens on the insect society.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'ya aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il ya toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:19:05 AM PST

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        •  exactly, but (2+ / 0-)
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          blue aardvark, asym

          the evolutionary benefit of haplo-diploidy is to make the sterile workers more related to other sterile workers than to their own putative offspring- that is , they are more related to their "sisters" than is the queen. In effect, both the drones and the queen, who are 1/2 related to their offspring, are the hapless dupes of the sisterhood of workers who are 3/4 related to other workers. In that sense, feeding a few drones, and the queen, is a small price to pay for producing hundreds of thousands of sisters- and new queens who are more related to the sisteres than they would be to their own offspring.

          ( not that any of this has anything to do with the actual thread fo the diary, of course.)

          As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

          by BPARTR on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 11:42:08 AM PST

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  •  Well, see, by using them... (8+ / 0-)

    Our hands our totally CLEAN! Because no American killed them.

    The Drone did it!

    Blame Skynet, not us!

    /snark

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:10:58 AM PST

  •  who wuda thunk the solution to Gitmo was to murder (8+ / 0-)

    them before they even got there.

    Some...spoke with strong and powerful voices, which proclaimed in accents trumpet-tongued,"I am beautiful, and I rule". Others murmured in tones scarcely audible, but exquisetly soft and sweet, "I am little, and I am beloved"." Armandine A.L. Dupin

    by Kvetchnrelease on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:14:09 AM PST

    •  Murder? SERVICEMEN DO NOT INTEND TO KILL KIDS (0+ / 0-)

      Suggesting that we are killing innocents on purpose is pretty offensive. It cheapens the sacrifice that our servicemen and women are making and have made. Think what you want about the war in Afghanistan, I am probably right there with you. A few sickos in the military do not represent the whole. NOBODY likes killing civilians.

      I'd hope that you would not say something like this to a vet, I have no idea why you think its okay to say here.

      "The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian... America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance." The Real Ron Paul

      by 815Sox on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 02:36:46 PM PST

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      •  Except its true (0+ / 0-)

        We are killing innocents.  I don't distinguish between "on purpose" and "acceptable collateral damage", both are murder pure and simple.

        As to insulting servicemen I have two comments:
        1) If the servicemen find the idea offensive, they each and every one of them needs to be ready and willing to call out the military when it tries to systematize murder and turn in any soldiers who are murderers.  Instead of covering it up.  In other words, each and every one of them should be yelling and screaming for Bradley Manning to be released.

        2) Most drones are operated by CIA agents, not soldiers.

  •  I think it's my last Fiore cartoon (2+ / 0-)
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    Jaimas, 815Sox

    I used to think he was funny. Now I just find him angry. Not that it's not without cause, but I can get plenty of anger elsewhere. He doesn't do it for me anymore.

    "Reality has a well-known liberal bias." - Stephen Colbert

    by Rob Dapore on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:21:31 AM PST

    •  Best to keep your eyes shut at all the murder (5+ / 0-)
      •  So basically you are calling that person stupid (0+ / 0-)

        Because they happen to take issue with a cartoon. Civilian Casualties suck, but they were occurring before the advent of drones. Many very dangerous people would still be alive if we had not used drones. I am still forming my opinion about them. We have always known that war was going to become more remote. Drones also reduce the neccisity to send troops into very dangerous situations. I think of all my friends and relatives over there and I want them to be supported as much as possible. Drones also provide key recon info that we never had before.

        "The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian... America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance." The Real Ron Paul

        by 815Sox on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 02:16:47 PM PST

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        •  Drones are murder (0+ / 0-)

          There's no other way to put it.  It is assassination.

          We should NOT allow war to become more remote.  Once we have absolutely no "skin" in the game, it becomes easy to just give up diplomacy and let the drones do our talking.

          And then what happens when our enemies get the tech...?

  •  Wasn't it Al Gore's idea to put... (0+ / 0-)

    ...missiles on the drones?

  •  Cartoonish and yet hard hitting (9+ / 0-)

    You chose the visuals well and it really hit home - didn't even need the dialog (which was good) because you offered the storyline so effectively through visuals.

    We truly are our own enemy in this area of warfare, as well as enemies of innocents who live where we bomb and happen to fall under the umbrella of actuarial calculations that probably consider their instant destruction and despair as acceptable collateral losses.

    "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

    by wader on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 07:28:01 AM PST

    •  What is important to politicians are polls (3+ / 0-)
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      wader, OldDragon, NinetyNineNorth

      82% approval on National Defense from Democrats.

      They really believe that drones killing people around the world are keeping America safe. Safe from what? The greatest threat to the USA is global warming/climate chaos. That's according to a Pentagon report.

      ❧To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 08:18:13 AM PST

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  •  Makin' new (6+ / 0-)

    friends enemies every day.

    FriendsEnemies that last for generations.


    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 08:16:38 AM PST

  •  The drone issue is obviously not this simple (0+ / 0-)

    The United States is not going out an killing civilians on purpose. Civilian Casualities are terrible and one of the worst things about war/military action. However, drones obviously have quite a bit of benefit as well. They let us hit targets in very remote areas of places like Afghanistan, they reduce the need of sending our brave fighting men and women into dangerous positions and also provide recon to headquarters instantly, thus allowing us to be better prepared.

    Sadly, the nature of the war in Afghanistan puts families at tremoundous risk because the males in the community have chosen to fight as insurgents.

    I don't like the war in Afghanistan, but I want my family and friends over there to be as safe as possible.

    So I guess I ask, how do we make up for the massive benefits we would lose by stopping the use of drones? Again, the cartoon presents them as machines built to go kill innocents (its satire I know), but drones have also killed very many dangerous people.

    Drones are piloted by a person who is in no danger of being killed/harmed and lessens the need for very dangerous building to building combat. Afghanistan is the perfect control to engage in guerilla combat, and they have proven that time and time again.

    The two most famous examples recently are Anwar al-Awalki who was killed by a drone strike and Osama Bin Laden, for which drones provided information that allowed such a mission to be successful.

    If the Pakistani's were more helpful and trustworthy, maybe we wouldn't have to use drones more often. Of course, that is a very complex situation, but it infuriates me we send military aid to a nation that is basically shaking our hand with a knife behind its back.

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/...

    "The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian... America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance." The Real Ron Paul

    by 815Sox on Thu Feb 09, 2012 at 02:31:04 PM PST

    •  "the males in the community have chosen..." (1+ / 0-)
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      asym

      "...to fight as insurgents," eh? Every single one of them in the entire country, you say, or is this just a collective guilt thing? As long as one person somewhere in Afghanistan attacked a US (volunteer, professional, paid) soldier there, it is valid for the US to kill anyone and everyone because one man is every man?

      Talk about over-simplification! Not to mention sickening.

    •  Murder (0+ / 0-)

      "The two most famous examples recently are Anwar al-Awalki who was killed by a drone strike and Osama Bin Laden, for which drones provided information that allowed such a mission to be successful."

      So you approve the power of the President to kill USA citizens based ONLY on his own authority?  Judge, jury, executioner; no trial necessary?!

  •  I got jumped on the other day by my "lefty" in-law (1+ / 0-)
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    Oaktown Girl

    Just this last weekend I expressed concern about the use of drones/killing innocents to my quite left wing brother-in-law, whom I generally like and usually agree with, and he just about ripped me apart and would not stop. In the context of the overall conversation, it was largely because I was implicitly daring to question in even the slightest way his god Obama, who can do no wrong in his eyes and makes only perfect decisions. He was gushing - the only possible description - just before this about how the Libyan war had been the only really moral and completely positive US war in the last forty years, and denying that the US had ever claimed it was only there to protect civilians but always been totally upfront about planning to bomb Gaddhafi out of power. Okay.... However, his basic argument (that he went on about at length, and even after I decided I simply was not going to argue the point but just listen and nod, kept badgering me to answer dialectic questions and try to get me to agree with his points) was that at least these methods only kill people a few at a time instead of in hundreds of thousands.

    The point this cartoon makes well is that it likely is not going to make the Afghans (likewise Pakistanis, Yemenis, Somalis...) like us any better because we are "only" slaughtering innocents "by mistake" or "unavoidably in an important cause" in groups of 20 or less per occurrence. What is also interesting to me are the people who absolutely refuse to believe that there is any possible criticism to be made of these drones, any moral question in their use, and that to even raise the issue is to declare war on and total disdain for Obama, the US, and every American soldier. Wow.

    •  Wrong label (0+ / 0-)

      That's not a "lefty", that's a "Democratic".  Lefty's are very, very, disappointed with Obama.

      •  Says who? (0+ / 0-)

        Has it never occurred to either of you that Obama is a HUMAN BEING JUST AS WE ALL ARE, capable of making both right and wrong decisions?

        And since when is accusing someone of worshipping a human being (a very serious allegation)  an acceptable way to avoid an uncomfortable debate? If you don't want to talk about it, admit it.

  •  Speaking the Truth through a cartoon. (0+ / 0-)

    If only our "news" media would do the same.

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