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Fun times for House leadership, Speaker John Boehner, Rep. Paul Ryan, Rep. Jeb Hensarling, Majority Leader Eric Cantor and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
Rep. Paul Ryan and his counterparts in the Republican leadership are going to have a helluva time selling their budget to the American people. They can't even sell it to other House Republicans, apparently.

One branch of the caucus will be presenting a budget that's even more dystopian than Ryan's, "that claims to balance the budget in just five years, [...] pressing for larger cuts to Medicaid and the agency budgets passed by Congress each year." Another, working with a handful of Blue Dog Democrats, is going to introduce a budget based on the recommendations Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles made when their Catfood Commission failed to pass a report. That one is interesting because one of the favorite complaints of Republicans is that President Obama ignored Simpson-Bowles, so here's their chance to do something about that. It will be interesting to see how many line up behind that one.

But, as is pointed out in the AP story, none of these budgets is really going to be implemented, even if passed this week.  

Instead, lawmakers will advance more pedestrian, politically safe goals: passing a routine round of annual spending bills as well as a special budget bill that would block automatic spending cuts to the Pentagon and domestic agencies from taking effect in January.
To protect the Pentagon and domestic priorities like education from $78 billion in cuts next year alone, House Republicans would substitute a larger, $261 billion set of spending cuts—but ones that would take effect more slowly over the coming decade.
The result? A higher deficit in the coming budget year than if Congress simply put the government on autopilot and went home
What can be expected, though, is a House Republican bottom line in the final spending limits that breaks last year's debt ceiling deal. Reneging on that deal is apparently one of the few things House Republicans are united on.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 02:01 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (26+ / 0-)

    "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." —Warren Buffett

    by Joan McCarter on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 02:01:06 PM PDT

  •  The President will veto any renege (5+ / 0-)

    of the sequester.

    How will they get around that?  Will they find 67 votes in the Senate?

    And will this even be brought up in the Senate?

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 02:47:04 PM PDT

  •  I would feel sorry for the Orange Man, (2+ / 0-)
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    Palafox, Randomfactor

    if he did anything to make me feel sorry for him.

    I think, therefore I am. I think.

    by mcmom on Tue Mar 27, 2012 at 04:02:44 PM PDT

  •  When will we have a budget (0+ / 0-)

    Obama has been in office now for 3 years.  We have not had a budget to work under since that time and 2 of those years we had a majority democratic congress and president.

    I can not operate my household without a budget to work under.  At least not efficiently.  

    The same applies to our government.

    Only horses should wear blinders.

    by independantman on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:38:40 PM PDT

    •  They have a working budget. No point in (2+ / 0-)
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      Randomfactor, tb mare

      putting any budget before this Congress.  Not this year.  A budget is a political tool during a mega-recession when revenue estimates are all over the board.  All I know is that we continue to spend more on things that are death-dealing than are life enhancing.  More weapons, more war contracts, more carbon subsidies, and more prisons.

      Romney went to France instead of serving in our military, got rich chop-shopping US businesses and eliminating US jobs, off-shored his money in the Cayman Island"s, and now tells us to "Believe in America."

      by judyms9 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:47:03 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  This ain't your household (4+ / 0-)

      ...and your household's rules don't apply to our government.

      America, we can do better than this...

      by Randomfactor on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:50:25 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Right (1+ / 0-)
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        madgranny

        I have seen the argument that a household can't borrow money at the rate or pay-back agreements the government can so it is not the same.

        Increasing debt for any entity on ever increasing levels with no end in sight is not good strategy.  I don't care who does it or what size the entity is that does or what interest rate is associated with it.  

        Anyone that thinks that America should continue to accumulate more and more debt for decades to come is not someone I consider someone that cares about our future generations.

        It's a republican and a conservative view and I know it will not be accepted here.  I do have the right to say it however.  I am sorry we disagree.

        Only horses should wear blinders.

        by independantman on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:56:06 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Guess what? (1+ / 0-)
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          mikejay611

          "Anyone that thinks that America should continue to accumulate more and more debt for decades to come is not someone I consider someone that cares about our future generations.

          It's a republican and a conservative view and I know it will not be accepted here.  I do have the right to say it however.  I am sorry we disagree."

          Guess what?

          Anyone that thinks that America should continue to try to gut social services for the elderly, poor, disabled, and children for decades to come is not someone I consider [to be] someone that cares about our future generations.  Sounds like a lot of dead and/or suffering folks to me.

          It's a Democratic and a liberal view and it will be accepted here, because it's the humane thing to do, something republicans don't seem to comprehend.

          •  It has to be paid for plooka32 (0+ / 0-)

            The money is not neverending.  If you think so, you think wrong.

            We have to control costs and if it means stopping things other than the social safety net, then I am for it.  You should be too.  We can not continue to live on borrowing half of ever dollar we spend as a country.  There is no way to continue to sustain that.  Anyone that thinks so is not thinking.

            Only horses should wear blinders.

            by independantman on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 04:19:19 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

        •  what are you talking about, though? (1+ / 0-)
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          mikejay611

          The president's proposed budget for fy2013 is here.  You do know that only congress can pass a budget, right?  All the pres can do is propose one, which he has done each year.  Explain how the lack of a budget is the president's fault when he has both proposed budgets and it isn't actually, you know, his constitutional obligation to set the budget.

          Thought is only a flash in the middle of a long night, but the flash that means everything - Henri Poincaré

          by milton333 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 03:40:44 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I do not blame the president (0+ / 0-)

            2009 and 2010 we had a majority house and senate and the presidency.  We needed a budget and did not have one.  I am with you.  The congress we have and it includes both sides of the aisle is about as useless as tits on a boar hog.

            Only horses should wear blinders.

            by independantman on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 04:20:54 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Hopefully Ron Wyden will stay out of this one. n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    judyms9, gmartini, madgranny

    GOP = Greedy One Percent

    by Palafox on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:38:53 PM PDT

  •  Now in the 3 rings of the circus, (1+ / 0-)
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    vzfk3s

    we present for your amusement the main event of the evening.  A cage match of astounding size and scope. Yes thats right folks, way far away too right. We have the republican insane clown posse battling it out in connected steel cages. Winner to lose the respect of everyone. Those with medical conditions and faint hearts are encouraged to leave the tent before we let the clowns loose and the carnage begins. Betting is allowed and encouraged. Place your bets on who you think will survive the battle for supremacy in the republican party.

  •  Oh look (2+ / 0-)
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    vzfk3s, madgranny

    There's a lady in that photo.  See, Republicans don't hate the ladeez...

    Do you not see that it is the grossest idolatry to speak of the market as though it were the rival of God?

    by kismet on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:49:03 PM PDT

  •  Paul Ryan (1+ / 0-)
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    madgranny

    was born and raised in Janesville, Wisconsin. And the people are saying that he is no longer representing them in Congress.

    I'm running for the Wisconsin State Assembly. Chip in a few dollars.

    by AsherHeimermann on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:49:47 PM PDT

  •  Still find it hard to believe that Boehner (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    NamelessGenXer, tb mare, gfv6800

    would let that bunch stand behind him. I guess he never heard about what happened to that dude in Rome.

  •  Can we then agree that last year's budget (1+ / 0-)
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    bryduck

    deal was a mistake by ALL parties, including the Democrats?

    Who made the bigger mistakes, and who bargained in bad faith or worse faith, can be mooted.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra En théorie, il n'y a aucune différence entre théorie et pratique, mais en pratique, il y a toujours une différence. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Wed Mar 28, 2012 at 02:55:09 PM PDT

  •  at the risk of getting torched (0+ / 0-)

    at least they HAVE a budget ... where the hell is the Dem's?

  •  A little OT, but still on the budget topic. (0+ / 0-)

    I was checking on the history of the A-10 "WartHog". Seems that the Air Force NEVER really wanted to be in the business of supporting ground force troops, but they also did not want a Army/Marine  wing to do so. There answer was to limit the planes cost to 1.2 million per copy.

    Due to hard work by an AF Col. the A-10 was born, with great results.

    MAYBE, the lesson is to make sure the best and brightest have to prove themselves. FDA/USDA, NASA/FAA, etc.

  •  This is just another fine example to win... (0+ / 0-)

    The big picture here is to re elect President Obama, achieve a filibuster proof majority in the Senate; with 64, 65, 66 or 67 seat advantage, to guard against Democrats that are bought by rich guys and do not like President Obama.

    It is imperative to take the House back and send Boehner and Cantor packing. (Paul Ryan among them.)

    It is an absolute must to shift the Supreme Court back to the center. Citizens United must be overturned through a Constitutional Amendment.

    We also need to take as many Republican controlled State Houses back as we can and start to reverse the damage they have caused.

    I am sure they have Cathy Rodgers standing there to give the people the impression that they like women...

    Let's see what we can make happen...

  •  The picture offers some symbolism for the right (0+ / 0-)

    wing.  The "backup" for Boehner is split:  a "boys' club" with the only "girl" excluded.

  •  Lollipop Guild? (0+ / 0-)

    Those 2 in the middle?

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