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Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2002Homeland security bill stalled:

House Republicans are threatening to stay in session in order to pressure Senate Democrats to compromise on the Homeland Security bill. Dems are insisting on union protection for the proposed agency's employees, while the GOP hates unions.
However, if no bill ever passes, that would not be a bad thing. All the new agency does is shuffle a multitude of far-flung government agencies into a brand new bureaucracy. And, those agencies most tasked with "homeland security" issues — the FBI and intelligence agencies — are not even included.

The whole Homeland Security agency idea had its genesis in the post-9-11 hysteria, and was driven hard by Democrats eager to show their "security" bona fides. While balking at first, the White House caved in to deflect attention from the whole "Bush knew" frenzy. In both cases, support for the agency hasn't been borne of actual security concerns, but political opportunism. This whole idea stinks.

Thus, if Congress can't get its act in gear, so be it. The nation's security won't be compromised in any way. Conservatives should be happy as a brand new government bureaucracy is thwarted, while Democrats should be happy that yet another civil rights-trampling agency isn't created.


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Today's pre-debate Kagro in the Morning show features Greg Dworkin's polling segment, calls from Tomtech on his low-cost, grassroots ad campaigns in Texas, and OllieGarkey on the dangers and nuances of mixing politics and religion. Then, we peeked in on the wingnuts frolicking in fantasy land, claiming "abortions" are frequently performed on women who aren't even pregnant, and that already-circulated 2007 video of then-Senator Barack Obama saying non-controversial stuff is somehow, suddenly, the worstest thing ever.


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