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We all know at this point that Romney is a compulsive liar, probably psychotic, and even sociopathic.  He lies with impunity.  As I listened to Romney lie yet again today, I thought about those used car salesman that try to sell lemons to unsuspecting buyers.

So I'm thinking, at the next debate, instead of calling Romney a liar or saying that he isn't being truthful, President Obama should start every response to a Romney lie with:

"Show me the Carfax".

Of course, he would have to, in response to Romney's first lie, which will be in his first response (he can't help himself), Obama should say, "you know, this reminds me of the used car salesman that fixes up a car to last right past the deadline for the Lemon law when the buyer can get their money back, and when the buyer says, 'show me the Carfax', the salesman starts talking faster and pretending like he doesn't hear them."

After that, all he would need to do when Romney lies is say, "Once again, show us the Carfax" and then completely dismantle Romney by pointing out every time he said the opposite of what he just said or when he made a public proclamation only to have his campaign walk it back in a statement.

In the closing argument, focus on what he wants to do, how America always knows where he stands and how his "core" is strong. Make the entire closing statement about his principles and his core.

I'm no strategist, but it sounds like a plan to me.

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  •  Good line and one that keeps on giving (6+ / 0-)

    You may be on to something.

    Today's problems are yesterday's solutions. Don Beck

    by Sherri in TX on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 09:11:12 AM PDT

  •  Too obscure and a little weird (10+ / 0-)

    I don't think most people would get it.

    You have to choose lines that everyone will get.

  •  Even better (3+ / 0-)
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    MidwestTreeHugger, fumie, ardyess

    Show me your taxes!

    I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

    by woolibaar on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 09:30:56 AM PDT

  •  Where's the Beef? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Rather have his missing Tax Returns (1+ / 0-)
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    Than his Carfax but like the idea.

  •  HUH?? WTF is a carfax?? (3+ / 0-)
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    elmo, ubertar, wblynch

    "Bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts!" Three Dog

    by pineapple head joe on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 09:46:34 AM PDT

    •  I'm surprised more don't know it (3+ / 0-)
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      I thought it was common knowledge. A Carfax is a report you can request on a used car that often reveals if it's been in a major accident, has had flood damage, etc.

      Since it's produced by an outside agency, not the dealer, dealers have a hard time hiding what's on there, and will try to dissuade you from getting one if there's an issue with the car. "Nah, carfaxes don't mean anything! You don't need one of those!"

      If you buy a used car without a Carfax report, you're asking for trouble.

      The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them. - Albert Einstein.

      by Cvstos on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 10:04:45 AM PDT

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      •  maybe this is a regional thing? I'm in Oregon & (0+ / 0-)

        have never heard of it, although I did just find Carfax, and half a dozen other services on teh Google...

        "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

        by chimene on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 06:07:51 PM PDT

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  •  i wish we could have a (5+ / 0-)
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    elmo, JBL55, profundo, ColoTim, madhaus

    Meet the Press style debate, where Tim Russert is channeled, the questions are asked, but before Romney could answer, the moderator would say "roll the tape" and show all the flip-flopping nonsense on the issue.  Then he'd have to give an answer in context to all the lies he gave before.

  •  interesting, i like (0+ / 0-)

    it's an updated "there you go again" line for the times of today.

    -You want to change the system, run for office.

    by Deep Texan on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 10:01:09 AM PDT

  •  I like it (2+ / 0-)
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    llywrch, ColoTim

    Its certainly the right direction. I was thinking something similar. Like "I'm going to count the number of times I think Gov Romney is stretching the truth. Make it easy for the fact checkers to do their work." Obama could then proceed to number the lies without calling them lies. Eventually he'd have to group numbers together because Romney would pile a few lies in one answer. Would be funny. O could also use the tool to keep track in his own mind. When he forgets what number he's up to he could ask the town hall audience. Another amusing moment. If Romney tried the same thing he'd look weak.

    The numbered points could then be fodder for ads and talking heads, who are less likely to let lies ride after Romneys last debate.

    As the numbers go up he could also say "Looks like we may reach 47 tonight."

  •  Something more like (1+ / 0-)
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    "Does your documentation support this claim or the one you made yesterday, last week, last month, last year, in 2002, in 1998, or in 1994? Which is it? Let's see it."
  •  I want him to pin him down on his position (1+ / 0-)
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    on women's health care.  He should not be allowed to keep pretending to be "moderate" then being fact checked by his campaign once he is off stage.

    “when Democrats don’t vote, Democrats don’t win.” Alan Grayson

    by ahumbleopinion on Thu Oct 11, 2012 at 10:21:15 AM PDT

  •  Funny, I was thinking along these same (0+ / 0-)

    lines but I was thinking in terms of Biden/Ryan. Every time I see and hear Ryan he reminds me of a slick talking used car salesman, and Biden has that earthy regular-joe quality to make it work.

    I was picturing something like this:

    "The congressman here would like sell the American People on the Romney/Ryan tax plan, but he thinks you're ok with hearing the details later, after the election.

    "Folks, I know you're smarter than that, the American people are smarter than that. Would you buy a used car from a salesman who says 'Sure, I'll show you the carfax, just sign here first.' The American people deserve real answers, upfront, or they certainly won't be buying."

  •  "Look, everyone KNOWS Mitt Romney is a Liar..." (1+ / 0-)
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    Of course we all know it but he could cement the meme just by saying it two or three times.

    Maybe say it before the debates.  Drill it into people's consciousness.  Let it get out and get around then in the debate just say:

    "Look, everyone KNOWS..."

    That could be his tag line.  Short and Sweet.

    "Look, everyone KNOWS..."

  •  The concept here is good - though the carfax (0+ / 0-)

    reference is a bit obscure for too many people to be effective.  The key is that in the previous debate - as President Obama himself has said, " was too polite".  The answer is that Romney basically doesn't deserve any deference or respect or opportunity to get away with stating his lies or plausible denials.  Every time he starts to interrupt - shut him down.  Every time he starts to deny something he has previously said - briefly reference the cite and say "the truth is against you".  Don't get into a wonkish debate over the details.  Push CHARACTER and push believability.  Push the FACT that things, despite concerted, intentional obstruction by the GOP leadership, that things ARE getting better.

    Good Sense is Seldom Common

  •  I thought everyone knew what Carfax was. They even (0+ / 0-)

    have several commercials.

  •  He could say, "show me the carfax, because I can (0+ / 0-)

    show you the video".

    •  Maybe just start with an acknowledgment (0+ / 0-)

      "I know both Governor Romney's campaign and mine will be showing you over the next several days how they feel we may have misspoken tonight.  Well, let me start off by saying at least you won't have to watch multiple commercials from his team, but if the Governor doesn't control himself tonight we'll have a different commercial at least once per day now through the election on his changes of position".

  •  Time to call like it is: sociopathic (0+ / 0-)

    That's what it is. Deliberately lying and misleading, without remorse or consideration of the repercussions, strictly for selfish gains, is sociopathic.

    Below are the common features of sociopaths. How many apply to Romney? Almost all of them, as I see it.

    Profile of the Sociopath

    Glibness and Superficial Charm

    Manipulative and Conning
    They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

    Grandiose Sense of Self
    Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

    Pathological Lying
    Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

    Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
    A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

    Shallow Emotions
    When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

    Incapacity for Love

    Need for Stimulation
    Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

    Callousness/Lack of Empathy
    Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

    Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
    Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

    Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
    Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

    Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

    Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
    Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

    Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
    Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

    Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
    Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

  •  we do not all know Romney is psychotic (0+ / 0-)

    I have to point this out since they say we are a "reality based community".

    My guess is that most of us know Romney is not psychotic. He does not act psychotic. If you mean 'delusional escape from reality", perhaps you do, than I guess you are joking.

    Romney's escape from Reality is denial based, and a bit narcissistic (he is a success entirely because of his own efforts, he thinks) is not psychotic.

    I am not sure he is a full fledged sociopath either, though he may be. That is more arguable (I am using psychopath and sociopath interchangeably...some experts do, some do not).

    I know you mean well...just pointing out that words and how we label people matters. We can't counter Romney's true nature effectively if we don't acknowledge (including with how we label him) with what he really is.
    If he's narcissistic and has a sociopathic tinge to his character/psyche that many high level venture capitalists seem to have...that is a TYPE that is good to discuss, appropriate label, and attack in public.

    As we do!

    He's can't hide behind mental illness. His flaws are personality defects and flaws of character (if not also brain damage).

    See that new "look" of empathy and concern on Mitt's face whenever he is now interviewed. I believe it is fake and that he's been taught to do that. He does not feel it.
    I have not seen compassion or empathy ever flash across his face.
    I felt he was cold when he was my Governor as well. We all talked about how he had no heart.

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