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By popular demand, here's round 2 of "Mitt Romney debates himself":

Like the original—which now has 1.8 million views and growing—this video is a reminder that no matter what Mitt Romney says he believes, you can be pretty damn sure that not too long ago he said that he believed the exact opposite.

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  •  He debates himself, and loses twice ... (18+ / 0-)

    Very definition of a loser.

    Thank you, Jed. Terrific!

    "The opposite of war isn't peace, it's CREATION." _ Jonathan Larson, RENT

    by BeninSC on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:01:59 PM PDT

    •  And the press will declare Romney the (6+ / 0-)

      winner of the debate! Theres' no contest.

    •  Obama Team, (8+ / 0-)

      Make ads out of this!!  SPEND that $181 million we all gave to you in September!!  Start mocking the shit out of Mittens EVERY SINGLE DAY, because his own words and actions (as well as Ryan's) can be Vulture/Voucher's undoing!

      While you're at it make an ad out of the Sensata shitstorm that's arising (Mr. "Jobs" critical of China about to send American jobs . . . to China!!);

      An ad out of Ryan's "he didn't get his words right" garbage ala Michelle Bachmann, and replay the "47% video;

      An ad out of Rmoney's RIDICULOUS statement that "people don't die without insurance";

      An ad out of Rmoney's WSJ? NYT? op-ed about "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" (MI, OH);

      An ad out of how Rmoney/Ryan want to privatize SS and voucherize Medicare (Florida, AZ);

      An ad in about how Rmoney will vote against the Dream Act & "self-deporting" (AZ, FL, )

      Attack, attack, ATTACK!  We need to see more done on the national stage like what we see here with Jed's brilliant pieces!!

      All of these will show what an out of touch assholes these guys are, and how they will end the social contract for the middle class and poor as we know it!!
      "Bad for the middle class . . . bad for America!!"

      Al Rodgers, where are you?  Come back, Baby!

       

  •  I love the red and blue ties, does he decide (2+ / 0-)
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    OldDragon, Gooserock

    which one to wear based on how he thinks the wind is blowing that morning, or on which state he is speaking in?

    My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me. Benjamin Disraeli

    by pvmuse on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:03:19 PM PDT

  •  Perhaps we should call this (3+ / 0-)
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    prodigal, OldDragon, politicalceci

    "masturdebating."

    There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.

    by Phil T Duck on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:04:06 PM PDT

  •  Can't this whole thing just be use as an Ad? (6+ / 0-)

    My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me. Benjamin Disraeli

    by pvmuse on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:04:12 PM PDT

    •  Too Long, 30 Seconds is About the Max for Broadcst (1+ / 0-)
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      Anne Elk

      Part of the reason is that people get pissed off and switch channels.

      Enough material here for 2 such ads!

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:23:53 PM PDT

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  •  Even more outright than the first video (1+ / 0-)
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    vcmvo2

    Let this one go twice as viral.

  •  Why this race is close is beyond me... (6+ / 0-)

    Rmoney should be losing badly. like 10 to 15 points bad/ Hands down the worst campaign eva.

    America, We blow stuff up!!

    by IndyinDelaware on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:06:08 PM PDT

    •  We should never have debated Romney (0+ / 0-)

      We put him on the same stage and gave him credibility.  

      Since these are not real debates, there was no evaluation of the ideas, only of appearance and style.   He wins  on that, evidently.

      I can’t decide who’s cuter – the dead guy with the arrows in his chest, or the guy in the ditch with the seeping wound. -- Game of Thrones (Heard on Set)

      by prodigal on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:52:02 PM PDT

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  •  Really confused why there are no tv ads like this (3+ / 0-)
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    joeschmeaux, Ky DEM, hester

    Or are there?

  •  Personal power and wealth (3+ / 0-)
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    vcmvo2, notanoldlady, Janet 707

    by any means necessary. That is what Rmoney believes.

    •  ^^exactly!^^ (1+ / 0-)
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      notanoldlady

      He just doesn't care about anything else. He has conned the entire Republican party into that.

      He only wants to be President because he thinks that being all powerful will make him at last an important person.

      Yuck! He has no "core" beliefs except that he was born for this. He thinks he's royalty.

      In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

      by vcmvo2 on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:18:33 PM PDT

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  •  This video is freakin' awesome! Put it on TV! (1+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock

    Cut it down to a strong 30 seconds and see how it does!

  •  the problem with using facts as an argument (1+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock

    is that low information voters can't be reasoned with, they form their opinions on bias and perceptions rather than reality, thats why its easier for the right to argue their side, once they have ingrained their argument into the equation most targeted voters aren't interested enough to disseminate information that is contradictory to their opinion, ignorance is bliss seems appropriate here.

    •  This Avoids Both Fact and Argument, It Presents (3+ / 0-)
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      OldDragon, chrississippi, Janet 707

      a guy who'll say anything, including making the liberal case on every point.

      It's a man whose word is clearly shit.

      Couldn't be a more pure presentation of character for low information low reasoning voters, I'd think. Subject to focus testing of course; the customer is what it is.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:22:40 PM PDT

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    •  Every human being has a bullshit detector ... (1+ / 0-)
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      hester

      and it's way back in our lizard brain. There's just no avoiding blatant evidence that someone isn't being straight with you.

      This idea would make amazing ads, IMHO. However, we're very close to being past the point where character ads are going to matter much ...

    •  That's why the Ronney v Romney ad (0+ / 0-)

      has to be as simple and stark as possible. One clip has him say yes and the other no. Then the word Huh?

      For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

      by Anne Elk on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:38:17 PM PDT

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  •  How about a Romney Vs. Bush ad (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite

    Show Bush calling himself a compassionate conservative, then remind everyone the destruction that Bush caused.  Then show Romney calling himself a "severe conservative".   If a "compassionate conservative" caused all these problems, how many wars and economic destruction will a severe conservative cause?

    If that ad wouldn't swing the election back to Obama, than nothing will.

    Watching Mitt's strategy is what it looks like when you try to put an etch a sketch in a centrifuge.

    by AppleP on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:16:00 PM PDT

  •  asdf (3+ / 0-)
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    OldDragon, IndyinDelaware, hester
    Look, the right course for America's government, we were talking about the role of government, is not to become the economic player.

    The last player that can step forward is government, and that's why we're going to have to have our government take action to stimulate the economy.

    I think it's frankly not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in.

    On the spending front, though, we also have to spend more. I hate doing that, as a conservative, but I think we ought to spend more.

    Regulation is essential. You can't have a free market work if you don't have regulation.

    But I'm gonna cut back on regulation. I'm gonna put a cap on regulation.

    Cuz I wanna bring back housing.

    Don't try and stop the foreclosure process. Let it run it's course and hit the bottom.

    Cut taxes for the rich? That's not what I'm gonna do.

    We're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country by 20%, including the top 1%.

    And the key to great schools, great teachers.

    More teachers? Did he not get the message in Wisconsin? The American people did. It's time for us to cut back on government.

    In fact, I do have a plan that deals with people that deal with pre-existing conditions, that's part of my healthcare plan.

    You've gotta get insurance when you're well, and so and then if you get ill then you're gonna be covered.

    And we have to have a President who can reach across the aisle, and fashion important  legislation, with the input from both parties.

    Time and again, I vetoed measure after measure.

    As President, I will sit down on day one, I'll sit down with leaders, the Democratic leaders as well as Republican leaders.

    If I were President, day one, I will take action to repeal ObamaCare.

    I figured out from day one, I had to get along. And I had to work across the aisle to get anything done.

    I was a severely conservative Republican Governor.

    Weathering Michigan's recessions since the '70s.

    by jennifree2bme on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:19:41 PM PDT

  •  The Clips are So Short You Could Easily Make a (0+ / 0-)

    great 30-second spot for air with 4-5 examples on key issues voters are weighing.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:19:53 PM PDT

  •  Jed.....the INCREDIBLE THING is that Candy (3+ / 0-)
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    Lying eyes, Gooserock, hester

    Crowley will act as though she has no clue what you are talking about......'The Best Political Team in the History of Advertising.'

  •  Needs more Gish Galosh. (0+ / 0-)

    Don't Roofrack Me, Bro

    Peace?

    by aoeu on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:35:12 PM PDT

  •  You sure pegged it! (1+ / 0-)
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    lawwoman

    This is exactly what I was yelling at the TV during the first debate. Barack simply had to start each reply with 'Mitt, you're debating yourself yet again'. Plain and simple.
    It would've gradually deflated everything the Lying Liar spewed, turning it all into nothing but sounds and hot air.
    I hope the Obama team is watching this.

    the only constant is change

    by tomnobombadil on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:35:18 PM PDT

  •  "Smallish" crowd in Portsmouth OH (1+ / 0-)
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    notanoldlady

    According to Mark Halperin, Romney only has a 'smallish' crowd at a rally in OH. "@MarkHalperin  
    Portsmouth,OH Romney pre-game speaker, Auditor Dave Yost, focused on apple pie, coal, and asking smallish crowd, "Are you hungry?!?!"
    http://thepage.time.com/

    (sorry to post here, no open thread)

  •  Watching that reminded me of this... (0+ / 0-)

    Mitt Romney treats people like things. And he treats things - corporations - like people.

    by richardak on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:46:50 PM PDT

  •  The Stench (0+ / 0-)

    is a master debater if I've ever seen one.  And I've seen quite a few.

    "I'm sorry, I have no pithy, insightful, enlightening quote for my signature." --- Me

    by liberalagogo on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:49:08 PM PDT

  •  Tremendous. (0+ / 0-)

    I'd really like to see an ad with just the parts about pre-existing conditions, running non-stop in every swing state. I think it's very....   effective, what Mitt says about Mitt.

    Lover, fighter, dreamer

    by kate mckinnon on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 01:50:02 PM PDT

  •  Obama ahead in AZ poll per Nate S on Twitter (0+ / 0-)

    Let's take the battle to these Republicans and win this thing, if we can take the lead in AZ we can push the electoral college over 270 !!!

  •  One house in my neighborhood has always (1+ / 0-)
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    Janet 707

    had a huge Halloween display. I mean enormous. Everything you could think of. Spider webs, ghosts hanging, skeletons, all of it. All over their front yard.

    This year, in addition to all the stuff they have cardboard cutouts of the Potus and Rmoney playing tug of war with the American Flag. A sign says, "Romney: the guy who'll say anything to get elected".

    "Say little; do much." (Pirkei Avot: 1:15)

    by hester on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 02:05:28 PM PDT

  •  Malarkey (0+ / 0-)

    I was thinking that in all likelihood, Romney has been coached on a way to use the word malarkey against Obama before Obama gets to use it.

    In fact, Obama preparers should watch the debate for cool anti Romney/Ryan zingers and anticipate what to say when Romney tries to use them first.  

  •  Working across the Aisle (1+ / 0-)
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    ayjaymay

    While Governor, Romney vetoed 833 pieces of legislation and the Massachusetts legislature overrode 700 of those vetoes  That's real bi-partianship there, Mitt .  

  •  Great job on that video....thank you for your work (0+ / 0-)
  •  Marathon Man (0+ / 0-)

    Paul Ryan is the well-known marathoner, but he has nothing on Mitt.

    Mitt started running away from his positions on October 4 and he's still going strong.

    That's a lot more running than a marathon!

  •  As fr Romneys tax plan.. (0+ / 0-)

    ..check out Mark Cubans latest blog post which seems like he's trolling Republicans. He states that after watching all the debates and Romney interviews he's convinced that the plan can work but he provides no concrete details in his blog post as to how and says he has no time to go into enough details (sounds familiar?). No seriously I am not kidding. Call it Cubans "Jack Welch BLS jobs tweet" moment.

  •  RUN THIS AS AN AD (0+ / 0-)

    Don't have Andrea Mitchell refuting Mitt's lies using some obscure study in your commercials, use Mitt's own god damn words! This isn't brain surgery.

  •  Great job Jed. Idea for another video... (0+ / 0-)

    Ive been watching the number of views on you tube of the original.  It's been neck-and-neck with the WhyObamaNow video.

    What I think would make a great mashup is comparing John McCain's statements saying "He doesn't know how to get Bin Laden, and I do. I know how to get him"  ... Cut to Obama announcing that we got him.  Then show Romney saying that he knows how to create jobs in the economy and Obama doesn't... Cut to announcer saying that 5.2m jobs have been created in the last 3 years. Short and oh so Sweet.

    "If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right"

    by ayjaymay on Sat Oct 13, 2012 at 10:44:12 PM PDT

  •  The Republicans DID_NOT Vote on the American jobs (0+ / 0-)

    The Republicans Congrees DID_NOT VOTE on the Americans job Act !
    Also the Republicans Congees DID_NOT help President Obama at all
    Why ?
    the Republicans Congrees & the tea_Party did not work with President Obama at "ALL"
    President Obama help to help the "American_People" out !

    Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan "DO_NOT" help to help the 98 or the 47% and Paul Ryan "DO_NOT" help to help the 30% out !

    Would you like someone in the White House if they DID_NOT tell you about their "income taxes" ?

    Did you know that Mitt Romney tooks "American" Womens & Mens jobs away from them and sends the jobs
    "ALL_OVERSEA" ans to "China" also to "Mexico" !
    if Mitt Romney & Paul ryan get in the White House when 100 day pass that what Mitt Romney will do !

    Thank you for your time,
    nigle77

  •  Mitt Romney Lies on October 3,2012 (0+ / 0-)

    Mitt Romney Lies to the American_People on
    October 3,2012 !
    That Why President Obam LOOK_DOWN most of the time on October 3,2012
    Why ?
    Presidend Obama DID_NOT want to Lies to  the American People
    if Mitt Romney was telling you the "Truth", then why don't Mitt Romney tell the American_People about his income taxes ?
    ps
    if you have a job, and the Boss come up to you and want to know something ?
    will you tell him to kelp your job ?
    1) Yes,
    or
    2) NO,

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