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Just a few observations...

1. The Romney campaign has been completely silent on Libya since before the 3rd debate (which was all about foreign policy).  

2. While it's completely obvious that there is no sort of cover-up, Fox, Drudge, and Twitter are still going nuts about it. (#Benghazi has been trending on Twitter all day)  Despite this, not much in the MSM and not a peep out of the Romney campaign.  

3.  Darrell Issa

4. Every indication is that the mathematical probability of Romney taking Ohio is VERY slow.  Without Ohio, Obama gets another four years.  

5. If Romney WANTED to take Ohio, he'd be lying about Libya instead of Jeep.  This is straight out of the Bush/Rove playbook, and it worked.

6. If Romney was lying about Libya, it'd be regurgitated in the MSM, just like everything else that comes out of his mouth.

These points get me thinking that they are deliberately keeping Benghazi alive in the fringe, and will bring it back up after the election in hopes to try and impeach Obama before the new year.  Disgusting, yes, but their strategy the past four years has been to delegitimize the president that they can't beat.

Thoughts?  Or have I just been thinking too much?

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  •  The Senate (21+ / 0-)

    Remember, with the latest rape-tastic comments, it's now looking like we may gain seats in the Senate.  Impeachment doesn't seem like a great strategy on their part.  Besides, the trial itself didn't seem to hurt Clinton's reputation much.

    Finally, impeachment=President Biden.  They don't give it to the second place winner from the election.

    •  Impeachment =/= President Biden. Not if we (1+ / 0-)
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      subtropolis

      keep a majority in the Senate. Senate requires a 2/3 majority to convict him and remove him from office. He could essentially be impeached on Jan 1, 2013 and still serve as President for the remainder of his term. Just like Clinton did.

      "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

      by second gen on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:13:47 PM PDT

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    •  Impeachment is a possibility (5+ / 0-)
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      ranton, OldDragon, subtropolis, Lujane, IreGyre

      But whether it succeeds or not is another story.  I have seen some comments in various forums where right wingers are talking about impeaching Obama over Benghazi.  They are really talking a lot about the incident but totally silent about the original 9/11 and other attacks on Americans when Republicans were President.  If anyone should have been impeached it should have been Bush and Cheney.

      There is a lot of blatant hatred toward Obama from the Righties and I think they will try to make Obama's tenure as difficult as possible.  I don't think they will be successful in impeaching him but I don't put it past them to try it.

      I also wonder who was behind the production of that video about Mohammed and why it was released a short time before the election.

  •  The Ads Have Exploded Here in Ohio (13+ / 0-)

    I think the conclusion of the campaign may be advertising not candidate activity. They're doing attack ads on the Dems and warm & fuzzies on their side.

    This is our first Citizens United presidential election. It's hard to be sure how it's going to work out.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:42:17 PM PDT

  •  I have come to believe that (8+ / 0-)

    Republicans will do ANYTHING. 1st inauguration the Republicans plotted to bring down pres obama by being a disloyal opposition...2nd inauguration...up the ante.

  •  This makes absolutely no sense. (23+ / 0-)

    Benghazi blew up in his face in the second debate.  Why on earth would tripling and quadrupling down on that help him now?

    He's better off lying about Jeep.  That's a new lie that he can flog until he loses.  He's more likely to gain traction from that because that issue is more relevant to Ohioans than Libya.

    Have you googled Romney today?

    by fou on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:45:16 PM PDT

    •  I have been wondering (6+ / 0-)
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      wishingwell, Sue B, fou, GAS, OldDragon, Lujane

      why he dropped that particular lie, when he has been so adamant about keeping/repeating all of the other lies that have been pointed out by fact checkers.

      You may have found the answer for me.  That one 'blew up in his face'.  Up close and personal, he was corrected in a very public forum, and to right to his face.  Not some article in a newspaper or blog.

      This actually makes sense.  A person like Mitt does not like being humiliated in public.  He can blow off the fact checkers as little people who no one would listen to.  But to be corrected in front of an audience and in front of President Obama must have been something that he is not used to, and does not want to repeat.

      •  He dropped it because it was not polling well. (0+ / 0-)

        It blew up for US but the average American could give a shit about Benghazi, all they know is they DO NOT want another ground war and Romney was talking like he thought we should go to WAR in Libya or that may have been the average voters take away.  It is all about the internals and whether it moved them closer or further away from election.

  •  not thinking too much, just thinking. (11+ / 0-)

    I noticed today that every fricking commercial was a health insurance advertisement, when it should be a political ad, no?  That says to me that the insurance companies have already given up on the election and they realize that Americans are going to be searching for health insurance either because 1) they know Obamacare requires people to buy their own healthcare if they don't have any and 2) they know that more companies are going to dump health coverage as a benefit for employees.  Just thinking.  

    It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom — for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. - The Declaration of Arbroath 1320

    by htowngenie on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:47:14 PM PDT

  •  I was wondering if they are sandbagging (5+ / 0-)

    because there's going to be massive election fraud in Ohio [or wtf knows where else], so they are setting up "the narrative". Republicans and the newsies are all acting like it's too close to call.

    I'm about sick of term "the narrative".

  •  I don't think the Rethugs................ (12+ / 0-)

    in the House thought the Senate impeachment trial would end in Clinton's removal either. Impeachment was then, and will be if attempted on BHO,  all about delegitimizing a Democratic president, obstructing any progressive agenda and just plain theater and power politics.

    If the Rethugs retain control of the House I would put the odds of impeachment hearings on BHO at about 80%. If they can’t find a reason, real or imagined, they will manufacture one.

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation--HDT

    by cazcee on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:53:10 PM PDT

  •  You need 2/3 of the Senate to convict (5+ / 0-)

    Article 3 of the Constitution.

    Which is why Clinton was never in any danger of conviction (removal) after he was impeached by a simple majority of the House.

    So even if Obama is impeached he will never be removed.

  •  There's nothing about Benghazi for which the (4+ / 0-)

    gop House can impeach the Pres.
    They may try, for something, and make something up.
    It's looking like they're going to lose some House seats if they don't lose the House itself, and I think their obstruction blockade is going to break this time. It won't mean the Pres. gets a mandate, but he will get a sliver of leverage with which to operate.  Reid has already said he's not going to let the gop Senators block everything with the filibuster this time.
    I think it will be back to "business as usual" and we'll start to see deals being made and a trickle, at least, of progress being made.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:54:02 PM PDT

  •  You are seeing things that are not there (6+ / 0-)

    Romney has not given up.

    I suspect their internal polling showed them that Libya was not a winning topic and that is the sole reason it is not being discussed by Romney.

    Another possibility is that since Romney is now getting intelligence briefings, he knows something that the rest of us don't and knows that repeating the Republican nonsense would come back to bite him later.

  •  can someone explain to me why they are hiding Paul (4+ / 0-)
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    Ryan? have not heard from him since the "poverty" speech. What is going on? Why is he in Witness Protection?

  •  Was (2+ / 0-)
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    with you till impeachment.  Impeachment requires law-breaking (think perjury for Clinton).  So, impeachment based on Bengazi ain't on the table.

    I think Romney blew it with Bengazi in the second debate.  Romney polled and focus grouped, and realized it was a loser.

    I'm not sure that Romney is transitioning to a post-election, but rather, they are beginning to doubt they are gonna win.  They are avoiding hail mary passes so as to not destroy Romney's reputation more than they already have.

    "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

    by Empty Vessel on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 05:55:48 PM PDT

    •  Impeachment is a political offense (2+ / 0-)
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      No real crime need be committed.  All you need is a majority of the House to declare that the President has committed "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".  It doesn't say what those crimes need to be.  So the Rethugs can impeach the President any time they want.  Getting 2/3s of the Senate to vote for removal is a whole different story.  I think they would just be chiseling out their own grave stone if they did this.  

      "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength", George Orwell, "1984" -7.63 -5.95

      by dangoch on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:24:58 PM PDT

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    •  impeachment only requires a majority vote (1+ / 0-)
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      subtropolis

      in the house. the crime can be whateverthefuck that majority says it is.

  •  Huffpost is also featuring Benghazi as the lead (3+ / 0-)
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    story, quoting Fox News on this and articles front page.

    They say they have CIA sources who requested security and troops and troops were told to stand down. CIA chiefs deny that and say it is a lie.

    But online media sources are covering this story big time and quoting Fox News.  So that is why it is trending on Twitter and Teabaggers are all over this. But i do not think Mitt will do this, he learned that is not a winning issue for him .

    The TV media, except Fox, does not appear to talking about this but I am sure this will be the lead topic for Fox this weekend. The thing is , All stories, even on Fox will soon be this Unprecented Hurricane that could affect as many as 65 million people according to the WEather Channel.

    All media will soon have this hurricane as their big lead story and on tv and online. All stories will be displaced soon if this storm is anything close to what is predicted.

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    by wishingwell on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:24:42 PM PDT

    •  Fox is gibbering insanely about this (3+ / 0-)
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      trying desperately hard to blow up some smoke from a cold dead cinder. (Found this out the hard way, being forced to listen to O'Really ranting and raving while waiting for the SO to be checked out at the Urgent Care Center - Valley Health, ALL offices, are on the take for Fox).

      I've been saying for a while that I'm gonna get a TV-Be-Gone....

      If it's
      Not your body,
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      And it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:33:41 PM PDT

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      •  I have one, though I don't use it very often (0+ / 0-)

        around here (they usually have sports or the weather channel on) it was still the best $20 I ever spent because when you need it, you really need it.  Oh, and remember, two clicks for "stealth mode" (no red LED flashing).

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 02:24:45 AM PDT

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  •  We have a lot to do without using our energy (1+ / 0-)
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    to worry about something that has a very slim chance of happening. We have to get the President reelected before worrying about something like this.

    "Southern nights have you ever felt a southern night?" Allen Toussaint ~~Remember the Gulf of Mexico~~

    by rubyr on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:25:29 PM PDT

  •  The Rethugs will find 'something' to attempt (0+ / 0-)

    an impeachment when O gets a second term, they just can't help themselves, I guess it's the T party rabies, or an OD of lies, but they will go even crazier when a second term happens, (if that is even possible, so many of them are babbling bullshit and foaming at the mouth.)

    May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

    by oldcrow on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:28:07 PM PDT

  •  The WH is sharing national security info (3+ / 0-)
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    with Romney. Now that Romney's getting a clue about the Middle East, maybe it's dawning on him that incendiary noises aren't and threats aren't our best option.

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 06:41:10 PM PDT

    •  Bob, that's what struck me during the debate... (2+ / 0-)
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      Romney gets the same briefings that POTUS gets (appropriately) and perhaps he has realized that it is NOT in his (or America's) best interests to lie and thereby fuck up what is going on.

      I think he fired without aiming after the Benghazi attack because he did not wait for a briefing.

      A dick is a dick is a dick is a dick......

      I'm not paranoid, I'm just well informed--SherwoodB

      by SherwoodB on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:25:21 PM PDT

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      •  I think it was probably a little bit different (1+ / 0-)
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        He might have revealed something from one of those briefings and was quietly yet firmly called out for it.

        Speculation, of course.

        All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

        by subtropolis on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:20:36 PM PDT

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  •  They are hiding Ryan (1+ / 0-)
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    Because he is like Mourduck.  "Life is life, regardless of the method of  conception"  Those were his words.  So with this Mourduck crap going on, they are hiding him as long as they can.

  •  It is one of two reasons why Romney isn't (1+ / 0-)
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    talking about it:

    1) this doesn't poll well.  Quite frankly, the American people just don't give a shit.  They look at it and think there was a terrorist attack in some far away place that has no relevance to them, or

    2) Romney has received some of the same intelligence given to Obama that what he has been saying is generally true.

    Either way, I'm still baffled by this story.  What exactly are they upset about?  It seems to change by the day.  Geraldo and Condi Rice at least have been trying to shut them up on Fox.   I will say that in most other circumstances, I would think Obama should be more open about the process but with ten days before the election, he knows it's not worth it because anything he says will be torn apart by the media.  Better to just let the investigation finish and then address any questions the media or the American people have then.

  •  I'm not sure how President Biden (0+ / 0-)

    gets Romney and the Republicans anywhere useful...seriously - can you imagine where that would go, really quick?

    :)

    I think what you're seeing is that the Romney campaign really has very little at this point that is likely to change the (losing for them) race as it currently is, and they're just going with whatever they think might make a difference.

    GOTV.  THAT will make a difference - for us!

  •  Or drinking too much:-) (1+ / 0-)
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    Further, affiant sayeth not.

    by Gary Norton on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 07:52:38 PM PDT

  •  More worried about the election (1+ / 0-)
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    subtropolis

    Fox News is blaring nonstop about how the CIA agents on the ground asked for military support and were denied, and they're trying to implicate the President for not giving the orders to fire. I highly doubt it will amount to anything, but you never know.

    If Romney and the GOP have anything to throw at the President, they would be far better served trying to use it now to make a dent in Obama rather than for actions post-election. We'll see if next week Romney himself tries to use this stuff.

  •  I dare them to impeach the President (0+ / 0-)

    And when President Obama shows the two heads of Benghazi killers on his platter (and maybe more by the time crap like this rolls around) They will be exposed as the anti- American party first racist douchenoggles they have been this campaign.

  •  Rmoney has been getting daily briefings (0+ / 0-)

    he knows the GOPer stories are bullshit and don't want to get involved. At the same time he's hoping very much that the lies and accusations will hurt Obama.

    America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

    by cacamp on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:29:31 PM PDT

  •  There was a diary on Libya yesterday that explains (0+ / 0-)

    Or maybe it was the day before. There is a lot of evidence and even reports in the press that they've been tracking down the people responsible. Though a tragedy to be sure, the Libya situation will actually demonstrate again like getting Bin Laden that the Obama Administration gets it done with competence. Romney doesn't want to set himself to look stupid....

  •  Hm, Maybe (0+ / 0-)

    But I think they have dropped the Libya thing because they were wrong. Condi Rice so much as said so on Fox. They might keep it alive in Congress as a distraction. But the topic has been so beaten to death and tripped up Romney, first after his press conference and later during the debate -- that's why they're avoiding it. It's a loser.

  •  You've been thinking too much. (0+ / 0-)

    Get some sleep.

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:53:44 PM PDT

  •  impeachment not unlikely for these assholes (0+ / 0-)

    But i think it's also not improbable that they were read the riot act after repeating information that they'd gotten from Romney's secret intel briefs.

    Speaking of which, i hope to see the day that Issa gets his perp-walk.

    All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

    by subtropolis on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:05:57 PM PDT

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