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In a poll released Saturday by the Associated Press, it found that racial prejudice towards blacks since 2008 has increased.

In all, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election. In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.
This is clearly concerning.  If Obama loses this election, it will likely be because he doesn't turn out enough white voters compared to 2008.  If this poll is a sign of prevailing sentiment among many white voters, he's in trouble in states like Ohio and Virginia.  I also don't think it's too far of a stretch to say that the media, particularly the right wing media, has done a lot to foster this prejudice.  From very explicitly linking blacks and other minorities to welfare, to creating this sense of otherness -- that the president is somehow just not like we are.

If this ploy succeeds, and we just won't know until November 6th, this sets a dangerous precedent for American politics.

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    •  It does, but it's true... (11+ / 0-)

      Americans are racists.  They always have been, and it's gotten work with Barack.  People hate him.  My friend will not listen to the fact that he is not a Muslim.  Period.  I ask her where she got that information.  She says, "... he just is."  I quit talking about it.

      I mentioned people hating him because he's black.  Her response, "I think it's cool we have a black President, but not him.  He's a Muslim."  There is no rational conversation with these people, but let's not let the media discourage us.

      We have to keep moving.  Thought creates energy.  The more we talk about their stupid poll, the more it grows.

      Without doubt it sucks.  Let's move on.

      •  I no this isn't the point, but (0+ / 0-)

        I have to say I feel uncomfortable with people referring to  the President by his first name. I know that's not the point, but I always thought it portrayed a sense of unnecessary familiarity and disrespect.

        "The government of the many, not the government of the money" - Nancy Pelosi

        by Americantrueandblue on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:20:47 AM PDT

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        •  know* (0+ / 0-)

          "The government of the many, not the government of the money" - Nancy Pelosi

          by Americantrueandblue on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:23:05 AM PDT

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          •  I also refer to him as Barack (1+ / 0-)
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            I like the name.  I think calling him just "Obama" is worse.  We use to call LBJ Lyndon.  Honest Abe is a well known reference. Senator Kennedy is always Teddy.

            What journalist do is refer to Mr. Obama.  I think that sucks.  It is President Obama.  

            To each his own, but note this from Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution says:

            "No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States".

            We are serious about not producing a class of nobility.  Under our system, President is a title of employment.  He works for us.


            •  What's wrong with calling him Mr. Obama? (0+ / 0-)

              And how is that worse than just calling him "Obama"? Seems more respectful to me. If you listen to the BBC, they do this with all world leaders.

              "Okay, until next time. Keep sending me your questions, and I will make fun of you... I mean, answer them." - Strong Bad

              by AaronInSanDiego on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 12:41:35 PM PDT

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              •  It is President Obama if you use a title (0+ / 0-)

                It is President Bush if you use a title.  W is fine if you don't.  

                It is President Bush if you use a title.  Bush 41 is fine if  you don't.

                It is President Johnson if you use a title.  LBJ on Lyndon is fine if you don't.

                It is President Nixon if you use a title.  Tricky Dick is fine if you don't.

                It is Senator Kennedy if you use a title.  Teddy is good if you don't.

                It is Governor Romney if you use a title.  Mittens is fine if you don't.

                If I have a choice between Obama and Barack, I think Barack is better.  I just think it is nicer than calling someone by their last name.  Plus "Barack" is a cool name.  

                But I don't have a lot of reverence for leaders in any case so what you want to do is fine with me.  I would just never use the term Mr.  That seems always wrong because it is formal but denies the honorific of the office.

                Watch at about 3:21 where John McLaughlin addresses Eleanor on this point of using a honorific.  Saw this just this morning:

                Afterwards the contributors stumble over sticking Governor and President in front of the names.  Pretty funny.


      •  Ge my neigbors are Muslims (1+ / 0-)
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        and they are white too. What's that mean? And they are all American citizens, with the kids being born here. Dear me.

      •  why... (0+ / 0-)

        do you even talk to her?

  •  Did they show (4+ / 0-)

    Whether this is among just white voters or does this include Hispanics and Asians or other races as well? Just out of curiosity.

  •  He's leading in credible polls outside the MOE (5+ / 0-)

    In those states.  A 3% change is within most MOEs.  Not as significant as AP makes it out to be.

    Alternative rock with something to say:

    by khyber900 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:05:55 AM PDT

  •  I wouldn't trust AP esp. at this stage in the game (7+ / 0-)

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:06:24 AM PDT

  •  I am currently (4+ / 0-)

    doing a research paper on the issue of racism post Obama and racism cost Obama a lot of votes in 2008.  The enthusiasm factor, it is believed, allowed him to overcome the votes lost.

    However, it's really impossible to predict how this will impact voting.  A racist would still go with an African American surgeon if the alternative was frightening.  Mitt Romney may be bad enough to be frightening.

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    by KibbutzAmiad on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:06:30 AM PDT

    •  It is a bipartisan thing, unfortunately (7+ / 0-)
      Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent).
      So some Democrats are racist, too (as if we didn't know that) but they're still going to vote for Obama.

      The way this poll has been written about it silly. It assumes that having a negative view towards blacks equals a vote against Obama.

      Overall, the survey found that by virtue of racial prejudice, Obama could lose 5 percentage points off his share of the popular vote in his Nov. 6 contest against Republican challenger Mitt Romney. But Obama also stands to benefit from a 3 percentage point gain due to pro-black sentiment, researchers said. Overall, that means an estimated net loss of 2 percentage points due to anti-black attitudes.
      See? Right there, they assume that this translates into votes, and I think that's a tough sell to make.
      The same respondents were also administered a survey designed to measure implicit racism, in which a photo of a black, Hispanic or white male flashed on the screen before a neutral image of a Chinese character. The respondents were then asked to rate their feelings toward the Chinese character. Previous research has shown that people transfer their feelings about the photo onto the character, allowing researchers to measure racist feelings even if a respondent does not acknowledge them.
      Who here can state with absolute certainty that if they were to take the implicit racism test, they would show no racism? Does that mean that since you may secretly harbor a little bit of racism, whether acknowledged or not, you're not going to vote for Obama?

      I have to say, I really question the timing of this poll and they way it's been presented.

      P.S. I am not a crackpot.

      by BoiseBlue on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:18:50 AM PDT

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  •  Given all the analysis we do (11+ / 0-)

    of every election poll that comes out, why should we actually believe that this 3 point shift over 4 years in this one AP poll is something that is even remotely reliable? Racism exists, and it certainly existed in 2008. The increase from 48% to 51% on one poll measuring something that by its nature is very subjective is not enough for me to be convinced that racism has increased.  Despite all the right-wing attacks on Obama, the country has actually witnessed his presidency and has seen that he served as an exemplary executive and representative of our country.

  •  Something I should have included in the post (1+ / 0-)
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    Overall, the survey found that by virtue of racial prejudice, Obama could lose 5 percentage points off his share of the popular vote in his Nov. 6 contest against Republican challenger Mitt Romney. But Obama also stands to benefit from a 3 percentage point gain due to pro-black sentiment, researchers said. Overall, that means an estimated net loss of 2 percentage points due to anti-black attitudes.
    •  I know one thing.... (8+ / 0-)

      that if President Obama could win the first time, he can win a second time.  The racists' 'scary black man' turned out to be an intelligent, reasonable, calm-under-pressure regular man.  The same people who were racists in the last election are racists now.  Some of them might be admitting their racism more freely in a poll THIS TIME because they didn't believe a black man could win.  But if anything, I'd say there are fewer racists voting this time than last time.  Old racists have died and the majority of younger people are not as racist as people were in the past.  JMO.

  •  Get rid of this or you're a troll. (1+ / 0-)
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    Right now is not the time for this.

  •  Not seeing it in my canvassing (4+ / 0-)
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    I would agree though that amongst those who never supported Obama, their expressions of racism have become quite explicit and disquieting.  Many were at least embarrassed to express racism in 2008.  You might say that these four years have ripped the mask off.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:10:47 AM PDT

  •  What Voters Feel is Already Reflected in Polling (6+ / 0-)

    and he's behind in VA but solidly leading in Ohio.

    Of course the media's partly at fault but that's the way our system is designed. Our public square is ceded to corporate information warlords, forbidden to be civilized or checked or balanced. Of course it's going to be the organ of the rich, of bigotry and of authoritarianism, especially since global corporate ownership has the Constitutional right to campaign against the people in our elections.

    The polling still has Mr. Obama in the lead despite 4 years of our public square and the world's ownership working to increase our hatred of our Blacks.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:11:18 AM PDT

    •  Not behind in Virginia, (5+ / 0-)

      Nice try though.

      •  What does that mean, (0+ / 0-)

        "nice try"? Obama has generally been lagging in the VA polls (the recent +4 one excepted). It's damn close. Somebody here saying he is behind doesn't strike me as trollish in the least. I think that those here who are quick to call out other members of the community for being traitors only serve to make themselves look like fools (especially when a newbie calls out someone who has been here for ten years).

        •  see what I mean? (1+ / 0-)
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          You playing constant hall monitor lately is tedious and boring.
          Goose is a oooh Noez we are doomed Obama will go down in a landslide commenter.
          It's time he got called out on it.
          His Obama is getting crushed and doing terrible and will pay the price comments in the middle of the 2nd debate were asinine but only the tip of the doom and gloom.

          We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

          by Christin on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:42:34 AM PDT

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          •  He's only got 429,000 comment (2+ / 0-)
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            ratings and 4 mojo bars and has been here since 2004. But lets just ignore that and go with user 600,000-something and ZERO comment ratings in determining who is acting trollish, right? Sorry, but not all of us are obsessed with ferreting out community members who are not 100% gung-ho with every comment they make. The enemy is the GOP and Mitt Romney, not committed Kossacks who say something you don't like.

        •  Some people have the very annoying (3+ / 0-)
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          flaw that they cannot tell the difference between saying "I think X is true" and saying "I prefer X to be true".  They act as if reporting a thing is identical to endorsing it (and the converse, that not reporting a thing makes it stop being true).  It's an extension of the fallacy of magical thinking.  If you start from the false premise that thinking a thing causes that thing to be true, then it's perfectly logical that if this was widely "known" then people who are reporting a negative thing must be doing so because they're endorsing it.

          It doesn't occur to some people that not everyone shares their magical thinking viewpoint.

  •  Then it's time.. (1+ / 0-)
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    For a return visit from the occupy crowd, plus the rest of the 47%.

    We either take it back, or it consumes us.

  •  This has been the purpose of Beck, Palin, Sununu, (6+ / 0-)

    as well as a bunch of super-pac ads.
    It's not "N**er, n***r", etc., it's "It's ok to not vote for the black guy. It's ok to like him, but to not like the job he's done. " Etc.

    "It's ok to have a gripe about black people in general." etc.

    I think this is a poll that could easily go the other way in 6 mos. and it won't cost the Pres. the election, and we should continue to work on dialogue between the races and not lose sight of the fact that the gop and the 1% have been dividing and pitting Americans against one another for a long time.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:13:03 AM PDT

  •  This polling is agenda-driven (17+ / 0-)

    Any time a poll about race is released 2 weeks before an election - it's highly suspect in my opinion. The media is now pushing "racial" narratives to produce a desired effect. Romney is losing, and when all else fails, the media and their friends in the GOP start dealing the race card.

    ABC's Nightline ran a segment on Friday evening featuring the KKK. They allowed an extremely paranoid (an armed) Klansman free reign to spew his hateful anti-Obama rants with little to no push back on his delusional memes.

    Believe me when I tell you that there's no way in hell that any mainstream media outlet would allow a group like the Black Panthers on TV to spew anti-Bush invective two weeks before an election.

    •  Exactly! Its pure bs. (7+ / 0-)

      "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

      by LaurenMonica on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:24:27 AM PDT

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    •  Fair and Balanced (5+ / 0-)

      Our Media is trying to provoke a race war or a class war. They keep pushing the boundaries and getting bolder every day.

      I can't believe in 2012, we have come to this. The media who should be the watch dogs, have become enablers to the attack on our democracy and the deliberate misleading of the public.

      We can only hope this all back fires on all of them.

      This is our moment...this is our time! President Barack Obama

      by ankae on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:27:09 AM PDT

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      •  makes me want to cry.... (3+ / 0-)
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        The media thinks this this is all asick game so they can get ratings or clicks. I never hated them as much as I do now. They are a cancer on this country....and have nothing in common with the media of pre 1985. I don't know if cable  or the nets killed their integrity, and don't care. They are disgusting and slimy. I think they dream of a race war and would love to see it happen for clicks. If they could theyvwould help start a war on another country.

        Oh wait...its already been done.

        They are scrum and it's why they are so hated my most of the pubic.
        And why their asinine endorsements, pro or against Obama, mean jack.

        We consume the carcasses of creatures of like appetites, passions and organs with our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear. Robert Louis Stevenson

        by Christin on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:49:56 AM PDT

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    •  Klanner had Gadsden flag on his (1+ / 0-)
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      Truck. Yes the teabagger flag. Telling.

      CNN has called it: Luke Skywalker vs. the Death Star is a tie!

      by GOPGO2H3LL on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:35:18 AM PDT

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  •  ....whatevs.... (4+ / 0-)
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    Mitt still needs to get an even higher percentage of white votes (70%?) in order to win this thing and that aint happening.

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    by matrix on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:14:48 AM PDT

  •  Not a post-racial country yet. (0+ / 0-)

    But a lot of individuals are post-racial.

    The change seems to be quite organic: ragged and fragile at the edges. But that's the way that change happens. I look at things from a long (many decades) perspective and it looks to me like the country is developing nicely.

    Whether this racism, increased or not, will cost the election, I don't know.

  •  In 2012. How depressing. n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  now poll this. done? poll again. see? good. nn (1+ / 0-)
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    Job Crater Republicans Made Our Lives Miserable. Tell It To The Morans!

    by renzo capetti on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:19:27 AM PDT

  •  TROLL (3+ / 0-)
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    been here since August of this year.

    First time said anything to anybody.


    "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and me?" - Don Van Vliet

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:21:16 AM PDT

  •  My guess (4+ / 0-)
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    and my personal experience is many people had racist feelings in the past but kept it quiet or didn't think about it much. Obama got elected and immediately the cry was take our country back - from the black man above all. Now 4 years of loud racism from Repub politicians and media has made it more okay to be negative about blacks in public. I don't think this poll is finding real big changes in attitudes, more that a sliver of people feel more comfortable saying what they always felt privately.

  •  Sounds crap to me more like AP planning to play th (4+ / 0-)

    e race card.

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:23:47 AM PDT

    •  Having lived in this country for the last four (1+ / 0-)
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      years and seen how the Republicans have made overt racism socially acceptable again, how is addressing this reality, and how pervasive racism has always been in this country playing the race card?

      (Even as the Teabagger movement angrily denied they are racist.  And it turns out that they are lying.  Their racism is so organic they don't even see it for what it is)

      Well, this poll tells me what my gut already knew, and though I don't share the diarist analysis that this POLL could cost Obama the election (and yeah, he probably posted it for trollish reasons), I think the cold hard light of reality should sober a lot of people up with regard to the opposition the President faces from the forces of hate and ignorance.

      It has become increasingly clear that the master plan of the Republican Right was to overturn the reforms of the New Deal, and they will use everything in their bag of tricks to galvanize their base, and get power:  

      1. Harnessing the racist, sexist and antigay prejudices of their most appallingly ignorant base.

      2. Feeding the paranoia of the gun gang.

      3. Fear the BROWN PEOPLE....and other versions of the other.

      4. You know the rest.

      We are a totally polarized country.....and there is no indication that that will end after the election.

      So before you shoot the messenger, recognize that Obama will probably win.   And the Republicans will do anything to stop him, including telling their racist base to hate and fear the president because he is black...because that is what they have been doing for the last four years.


  •  WHat a piece of shit poll this is: (4+ / 0-)

    Americans are all too aware that the president is black, he's been attacked from almost every angle since he initially ran against Hillary in 2008. This election has already factored in the racist vote- believe me.

  •  This shit again? (3+ / 0-)
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    This is so 2007.

  •  Maybe they oversampled racists. (5+ / 0-)

    In any case it's a distraction.  Everyone already knows that racism will probably cost the president a couple of percentage points.  It's our job to lift him above it all.  GOTV!

  •  Not true unless only repubs were polled.n/t (2+ / 0-)
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  •  I have a cousin who is a policeman. I like him a (1+ / 0-)
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    lot, nice guy. But when I'm driving my car (fully registered, nice car, I have no record), and I'm being followed by police persons, I don't have a positive view of the policemen. I wonder if I'm going to be pulled over for a BS reason and given a ticket or worse. Probably a bad bias on my part, but a negative bias nonetheless.

    At this point, President Obama is like my cousin to most folks in the US. They are going to like him or to hate him on a personal basis, not "just" because they have an "anti-black" attitude. For some people, he's going to be the "black friend" who's different than all the others.

    Whether the poll is crap or not, I'm not going to waste time to find out. The timing and agenda may be worthy of a post-election analysis on media and its attempt to influence. But to quote Bill Belicheck, "it is what it is", and I doubt it makes a difference other than some pearl clutching from the faint of heart.

    "Yes, reason has been a part of organized religion, ever since two nudists took dietary advice from a talking snake." - Jon Stewart; The Daily Show

    by Uwaine on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:52:15 AM PDT

  •  I CALL (3+ / 0-)
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    this all a distraction. We should focus on doing our own of GOTV we will win. These people hate everyone it has it does not matter what color you are my goal is to let them die with their hate by helping re elect this president.

  •  The release of these data just before the (8+ / 0-)

    vote seems to be part of a bring up race agenda - I read the polling data, and the research notes when it first came out.  

    The headline diarist has up is misleading.

    No - racism is not going to cost the President the election. It's the same old racism that we have lived with for years, and it didn't stop BHO from getting elected.  

    Most bigots haven't changed their thinking - though now they feel more comfortable spewing it thanks to the permission given by R/tea Party leadership.

    To counter that we have many new registered voters, young people, people of color (especially Latinos) who will counter the bigot brigade.


    "If we ever needed to vote we sure do need to vote now". Rev. William Barber, If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition" Bernice Johnson Reagon

    by Denise Oliver Velez on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 06:55:16 AM PDT

  •  I can't imagine.. (4+ / 0-)

    why you changed the header of the article..

    AP poll: A slight majority of Americans are now expressing negative view of blacks
    •  Because it left out the political implications (0+ / 0-)

      Which the piece itself notes on the top of the 2nd page.  That's why I thought this was interesting.

      •  I don't understand that either.. (0+ / 0-)

        nor do I understand why the "slight" was used in the first place. When is a majority, a 'slight' majority, and not just a majority?
        I totally agree that as a result of the Republican Party, and the media's attempt to drive home racism,  people are more willing and downright proud to express their racist views, and in as derogatory a manner as possible. The media does a really good job at what they do.

  •  Forget American Politics this is dangerous (1+ / 0-)
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    living as a black person in America. The sentiment will and probably has hit jobs, education, applying for loans, etc.

  •  I believe as the internet and its anonymity has (0+ / 0-)

    increasingly come into play, we're hearing more racist voices who before then didn't have a soapbox from which to spew their venom.  There aren't necessarily more of them, they just learned how to use a computer.   This is a sword that cuts both ways.  People who now have a far more enlightened view of race than they did in the distant past also use computers now.  And we're the ones who will help ensure Barack Obama stays in the White House.

  •  Get a GRIP! (0+ / 0-)

    people. If the Media by all means is trying to influence this election then AP falls in line. In so saying that their results cancels the A/A, Latinos, Jewish and other ethnic voting blocs for PBO. Also, why? hasn't this Poll been taken way before the election?.

  •  I Suppose We Could Generate Just as Many Thrills (1+ / 0-)
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    if we surveyed Americans on their attitudes to "off the hard road" religions.

    Mormons and Scientologists -- oh my!  I expect we'll see an up-tick in negative perception of those religions and others like them following Romney's candidacy.

    Does this mean Romney will lose votes based on antipathy to his religion -- a test of qualification for office that the Constitution forbids?

    Probably.  But admittedly I bet not to the extent that "dark skin bias" will.  Racism never disappeared; there has never been a post-racist attitude.

    That it gets buried due to the rising tide of progressive force against it is true.  But it remains and rises again when cued by Southern Strategy, John Sununu, and jokes about birth certificates.

    Let's be frank.  "Birthers" is just a catchy euphemism for n-word haters.  "Obamacare" is just a trendy euphemism for n-word care, in spite of the president's embrace of it.  

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    by Limelite on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 07:31:35 AM PDT

  •  What Gooserock said (0+ / 0-)

    The radical Republican party is the party of oppression, fear, loathing and above all more money and power for the people who robbed us.

    by a2nite on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 08:03:03 AM PDT

  •  Report seems a little overblown. (0+ / 0-)

    In the sense that one can have negative attitudes about a class of people but still acknowledge that a particular individual is different (ie perception of CEOs, actors or athletes), this "racism" could be meaningless.

  •  he'll win the election (0+ / 0-)

    but yeah, the growing racism against the president, and its potential to find outlets in increased discrimination and attacks against scapegoats in society once he wins, is pretty unsettling.

  •  Take the sheet off your face.... (0+ / 0-)

    I think that the climate of 'blame' and hatred toward President Obama as a person is for the most part because he is a Blackman who dispite all odds against him, including being a Blackman used oppurtunities offered him to his advantage and became President of the most powerful nation in the world today.

    I think that the hate and bigotry was always there, and people told the truth more often because the discourse allows them to do it without shame.

    I dont think this will effect the election though, because whether bigotry is covert or overt, those who have made a choice for president based on racial hatred are already in thier respective camps, and could have never been influenced any other way.

    It is funny though that the Romney camp still brings it up, maybe to remind the uneducated people that support Mr Romney for this reason that a Black man is going to be thier president...and tell them what to do.

    Time to take the sheet off your is a brand new day (from a song)

    Oaths and alleginaces only become valid after being tested in adverstity.

    by Nur Alia Chang on Sun Oct 28, 2012 at 09:09:55 AM PDT

  •  Head od AP was McCain Comm guy in 2008. (1+ / 0-)
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    That is why you have this poll now. I found it appalling Nightline would have the KKK on but this tells you that the Money is afraid.

  •  Not sure what it measures... (0+ / 0-)

    It may not be indicating that more people are prejudiced, just that they are now more comfortable admitting their prejudice.  It's an inherent problem when you ask people to self-identify.

    Regardless of whether people are more racist, or just are more comfortable admitting it; it's the inevitable result when GOP race-baiting goes unchallenged.  Especially by the GOP leadership.

    Whenever a readily-identifiable group of people is blamed for societal problems, alarms should go off.  And yet, the modern GOP continues to scapegoat homosexuals, immigrants, Muslims, etc.  Odd that the self-proclaimed "party of personal responsibility" is constantly blaming other people for all the problems in America.

    And now that CNN appears to be following Fox into the media sewer, we'll soon have two networks amplifying the GOP message of racism and scapegoating.

    I just watched "The Hunger Games" with my daughter last night.  I keep telling myself that it's just a movie, but given where we are politically right now; it seems like a frightening glimpse into the not-so-distant future if Romney finds a way to win this election.

  •  This does not directly translate into anti Obama (0+ / 0-)

    voting, as other commenters have mentioned.

    There are many many White people with a general bias against black people but who make a distinction between  all the people they meet, interact with, work with, are friends with who are black and and the wider idea of Black people out there...  The African Americans they know and like or respect/get along with are all "exceptions" to their mostly unconscious or not self challenged mindset... and these people include Democrats and Obama voters... for example they think of their friend "Jim" as "Jim"... not as that black guy Jim... but beyond that their idea of African Americans as a general concept can be a negative one.

    And the same with Asians and Latinos... and with Latinos there is quite a range of distinctions within that very wide ranging label from very white to very brown or otherwise indistinguishable from African Americans and all the many Native American or part Native Americans... North and South who are also labelled Latino... And with Asians whether subcontinental (Indian, Pakistani etc.) or East Asian they all have cultural divides based on skin color and then as immigrants related to their own experiences with African Americans and their own feelings about mixing etc. And they can vote for Obama while still feeling uneasy in the "Wrong part of town" or their kids socializing with the "Wrong kids"... and subconsciously seeing every black kid as a likely gangster unless they know them personally.

    So taking all that into consideration there is also some truth to racist views and outlooks being divided into two discrete groups: those with strong hate and rejection with very ignorant views and the rest with more nuanced, closeted even denial race based decisions / bias (which can be just as harmful in some ways) The hard core conservative base... 27 percent give or take and a second additional similar sized group ranging from part-time obvious racism to soft racists who would include some Obama voters among them.

    So the soft racists - White, Asian, Latino (and even black) would include many who will vote for Obama since for them he is not "Black", Black in the sense that their friends and associates are seen in the same way as differentiated from the generalized stereotype scary Black people... So the actual racial divide in terms of voting is likely very close to the polling this year for president. and lower than the AP poll would suggest.

    Sure if the race is very close and it went the wrong way race would be a big part of that... but in the end the saner, more decent, open and logical people will prevail.

    And AP is not entirely neutral either...

    Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

    by IreGyre on Wed Oct 31, 2012 at 06:51:51 AM PDT

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