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Voter Machine tampering doesn't need to break the seal -- watch video
This is the voting machine they use locally here except mine doesn't use a paper tape.

Mine is the "Sequoia AVC Edge."

 They use the smart card to infect the system. Watch. And it doesn't show up in a pre-test of the system at all.

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Find out what machine your polling place uses.
I know there was some article about how someone Mitt Romney knew from the old days at Bain owns voting machines in battleground states.  

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  •  I thought his son Tagg owned machines in Ohil (3+ / 0-)
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    RUNDOWN, Manny, Lujane

    But snopes disagrees..  That was the rumor that was here on KOS.  

    It goes on to analyze the voting machines in general as well..

    Additionally, the potential for vote-tampering in Ohio through manipulation of Hart Intercivic's equipment is quite low.  As the Cleveland Plain-Dealer reported, the pieces of Hart InterCivic equipment to be used in Ohio aren't electronic voting machines that record voters' selections directly through touch screens — they are merely standalone scanners that tabulate paper ballots, so any close or suspect results could be confirmed through a recount:

    Minority rights should never be subject to majority vote.

    by lostboyjim on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 08:16:11 PM PDT

    •  If the reported result is not close (4+ / 0-)
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      G2geek, Kitsap River, Sandino, Lujane

      then there wouldn't BE a recount.

      Voter suppression is treason.

      by Troubadour on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 08:34:02 PM PDT

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      •  two hypothetical scenarios: (3+ / 0-)
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        Troubadour, Sandino, Lujane

        1)  The scenario you described:  Hacker creates a landslide favoring their candidate.  The courts turn down demands for a recount, on the basis that "it wasn't even close."

        2)  Another scenario that has also been discussed extensively in these pages:  Hacker creates a result that is "plausibly tight" but not tight enough to trigger a recount, in an effort to avoid suspicion.  In one account of this, flipping even one or two votes in each precinct would be sufficient.  

        In either scenario, PR can be used to "nudge" the media narratives: for example that "it wasn't even close" or that the apparently-defeated candidate in the "tight" race is a "sore loser."   The shouting media narrative aims to be loud enough to overpower any calls for recounts.

        Get a call from GOP GOTV? Talk their ear off! Keep 'em busy! Plus one long call to a progressive = minus two or three calls to undecideds!

        by G2geek on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 09:44:24 PM PDT

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        •  Yup. (1+ / 0-)
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          Lujane

          Voter suppression is treason.

          by Troubadour on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 11:15:03 PM PDT

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        •  States have different recount laws. (0+ / 0-)

          In Ohio, for example, an audit will be done regardless of margin, plus automatic recount if margin is 0.25%. And yes, that is close, but recounts can also be sought by a candidate. Not dependent on margin. Http://www.ceimn.org has a great searchable database of recount rules by state, for more info.

          Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that would be one step toward obtaining it. --Henry David Thoreau

          by pam on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 12:02:20 AM PDT

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          •  How do you audit no paper trail? Ohio duriing SOS (0+ / 0-)

            Ken Blackwell had votng machines going forwards and backwards in counts,  When nothing adds up what do you do?  Just make up the numbers.... like Mike Connell, the IT guru, working for RoveBush did in 2004.

    •  "low" potential does not equal "no" potential. (1+ / 0-)
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      Lujane

      If someone has expensive locks on their doors, a burglar will go around back and break a window to get in.

      Where there's a way, and there's a will, there's a risk that can't be dismissed.

      And the only opinions that matter, for claiming that a system is safe, are the opinions of technical security experts who have taken the time to attempt to break a system in a number of different ways.  

      Get a call from GOP GOTV? Talk their ear off! Keep 'em busy! Plus one long call to a progressive = minus two or three calls to undecideds!

      by G2geek on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 09:48:24 PM PDT

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      •  Word. I am so sick of this discussion. (0+ / 0-)

        open source would appear to be the only real solution if touch screen machines are used.

        Tossing absentee ballots over whether the signature is close enough must be fixed.

        Deceptive voter-ID "training" must be fixed.

        Tossing ballots for "signing on the wrong line" needs to end.

        National election rules need to be consistent in every state. As far as the other stuff, it is not design rocket science to devise a clear and consistent absentee format.

        How it gets done, well, damn if I know.

        Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

        by dadadata on Fri Nov 02, 2012 at 04:19:20 AM PDT

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  •  This is so scary (8+ / 0-)

    Part of me wonders if the Repubs have been promoting this tie election because they are planning on implementing fraud on a large scale.

    I'm thankful Anonymous is watching Rove's server... but that still doesn't help in situations like this.

  •  I run one of these . (1+ / 0-)
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    whenwego

    I call b.s.

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 08:32:18 PM PDT

  •  Where I live, we use Hart Intercivic. Yes (4+ / 0-)

    THIS Hart Intercivic. I'm in OC, CA.

    Geez. I wish we still had paper ballots and pencils.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 08:32:40 PM PDT

    •  In O.C. You can use paper (0+ / 0-)

      All CA has optional paper ballots if you prefer not to use machines.  That is also true in Ohio ...

      Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that would be one step toward obtaining it. --Henry David Thoreau

      by pam on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 11:56:39 PM PDT

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  •  The "seals" they show (3+ / 0-)
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    MillieNeon, whenwego, Lujane

    are not the same same as the seals on my machine .

    What they show as being doable
    are not doable on my machine .
    The tall tales they tell
    are tall tales .

    If you have never run one of these machines
    then you don't know what is real and what is not .
    What they say is just funny .

    In the real world ,
    there is a check and balance .

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 08:52:54 PM PDT

  •  Yo Diarist: tags edited/cleaned up: (6+ / 0-)

    You had too many redundant and generic tags on there, so I cleaned them up.  You also had the term "voter fraud" as a tag, but that refers to the right-wing meme that unqualified people are voting, who should not be voting.  The term "election fraud" is the correct one for this, referring to the issue of election systems being tampered with or elections stolen in one way or another.  

    Get a call from GOP GOTV? Talk their ear off! Keep 'em busy! Plus one long call to a progressive = minus two or three calls to undecideds!

    by G2geek on Thu Nov 01, 2012 at 09:35:16 PM PDT

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