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In Both Sides' Get-Out-the-Vote Efforts Have Kinks, the Wall Street Journal (with no firewall for me at least) describes the Ohio get-out-the-vote efforts:

In the all-important ground game, both the Obama and Romney campaigns claim their get-out-the-vote operations are superior. But time spent with volunteers for each campaign in the crucial days before the election suggests that neither organization operates exactly as advertised in this key battleground state.
The enjoyable evidence of Romney GOTV campaign kinks:
The callers, however, repeatedly reached people who don't plan to vote for Mr. Romney, and, in some cases, weren't even registered to vote, casting doubt on the quality of the lists. One woman said she hasn't voted for 14 years and doesn't plan to resume this year. Another woman had moved, one was in a nursing home and a man said he wasn't a registered voter. Another person who picked up the phone told the volunteer, "She's not voting for him. Please stop calling her."

The Romney campaign is also described as knocking on doors of unregistered voters, strong Obama supporters, and even making three calls on the chairman of the Mahoning County Democratic Party. And my favorite, they ran into two Romney supporters who didn't know how they would get to the polls, and they didn't offer them a ride. In Ohio!

But in a nod to false equivalence, here is the WSJ's evidence of Obama campaign kinks:

* Calling on an Obama supporter who had already voted early.
* Calling on a committed Obama supporter who was planning to vote anyway.
* Calling on an Obama supporter who wasn't on the target list, and just happened to answer the door.

Yup, both Ohio campaigns have GOTV "kinks." But I like our kinks a whole lot more than their kinks.

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  •  sounds just like Willards campaign (5+ / 0-)
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    lisajones, BasharH, Siri, Wee Mama, Linda1961

    many kinks there as well.

  •  Kind of tough to have a ground game (7+ / 0-)
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    TomP, BasharH, Siri, Wee Mama, forkush, RUNDOWN, deep

    when the workers are either paid staffers "doing a job" or motivated by anti-Obama fervor, but frankly aren't all that pro-Romney at all.

  •  I LOVE the Kinks. (7+ / 0-)
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    elmo, TomP, Siri, forkush, 2thanks, Anima, Ohkwai

    President Obama, You Really Got ME!!!

    "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and me?" - Don Van Vliet

    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Sat Nov 03, 2012 at 12:18:38 PM PDT

  •  Doing GOTV here on the ground in Columbus (12+ / 0-)

    that's exactly what I'm seeing and hearing.

    Our campaign has well-targeted and winnowed lists from the 8 months of door knocking they've done (and all the SB5 work that set that up) and we're getting to those last crucial voters who support the President but don't always vote (or are new voters).

    Meanwhile, the Romney campaign is calling our local Obama team leader who has never been a registered Republican in her life... and asking her for a donation of $1,000.

    I'm not kidding.

    Ideology aside, if you want to know quite how shitty a Romney presidency would be - solely from a managerial / competence standpoint - just take a look at this campaign.

    "Republicans Vote To Repeal Obama-Backed Bill That Would Destroy Asteroid Headed For Earth." 2/2/11 The Onion

    by brooklyns finest on Sat Nov 03, 2012 at 12:34:25 PM PDT

  •  Kinks (2+ / 0-)
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    ruleoflaw, glitterscale

    Is Michael Brown in charge of GOTV in Ohio

  •  Sounds like Iowa. Here we were getting OFA calls (4+ / 0-)

    in August and September asking us to vote early. Those all stopped as soon as we voted. We still get some calls inviting us to specific volunteering opportunities.

    We hardly heard from the Republicans until two or three weeks ago, but now we are getting calls several a day to vote Republican or for Romney - all I might add with numerous lies included. They have phone numbers at the end so I tried calling back to two of them. The first was a machine saying, "All our operators are busy. If you wish to be put on the no call list, press 1." Snork!

    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Sat Nov 03, 2012 at 12:35:36 PM PDT

  •  After debate 1 - Saturday a knock on door (4+ / 0-)

    Romney Supporter: Hello Mr. Previous Owner!

    Me: Err - your records are a half decade out of date.

    Romney Supporter: So, can we count on you as a vote for Romney?

    Me: Laughing, no. Not likely. At all. Good luck and goodbye.

  •  Get Out The Joke (4+ / 0-)

    I've long felt that the GOP GOTV operation was naive and very green. They've been bragging about their "voter contact" levels, which means they've had a bunch of amateur volunteers leaving voicemail. Wow. Super impressive. You've been making phone calls! Obama had this line from one of the debates -- Romney has the foreign policy of the 80's, the social policy of the 50's, and the economic policy of the 30's. Well, he also has the ground operation of the 70's maybe.

    Strange Angels - a progressive online dating site.

    by Zackpunk on Sat Nov 03, 2012 at 12:53:34 PM PDT

  •  I just canvassed in Hamilton County, Ohio (2+ / 0-)
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    and we were told to expect to only find about 10% of people home or less. Well, I'm not sure if it's because it was raining or what, but I actually had a 50% rate talking to people, almost every single one of them a strong Obama supporter. We only had 2 or 3 people who had already voted, and only one who wouldn't be voting for the President. Out of 50 or so on my list that's pretty good I think and says something about the ground game here. In fact, I found such enthusiasm among the supporters I was able to recruit one, maybe two canvassing volunteers right then and there on the spot. It felt awesome!

    As an added bonus, I have a relative who works in the Pentagon. We had a family gathering at IHOP a couple weeks ago, just a few days after that horrible first debate. My family on that side is as Right Wing as you can get (listens to Rush, the whole 9 yds.). This relative was boasting about the first debate, was excitedly looking forward to a Romney win. Then she said something that has stuck in my craw for weeks now. She began talking about how she purposely had delayed her retirement from the Pentagon until January because she wanted her letter of retirement to be signed by Romney, not Obama.

    It was such a despicable thing to say. I couldn't believe the disrespect for the President. I think this as much as anything is what has caused me to get really involved in the campaign this time around. I have never in my life phone banked or canvassed. Also I can't vote b/c I'm not a citizen yet. But not this time. I couldn't let her have that satisfaction.

    It will be very tough for me not to send a snarky email asking if her retirement plans had changed if PBO wins, as I think and hope he will.

    If you're reading this and live in Cincinnati, or can afford to come to Ohio they need as much help as you can provide, especially on election day.


  •  Just got back from GOTV'ing in Cuyahoga! (3+ / 0-)

    Mostly just solid support for Obama -- a few undecideds, but I was at least able to get them to laugh at themselves with a "Really? What could you possible be undecided about" comment.  Yeah, lots of laughs today.   Mostly, people who are ready to vote on election day for another 4 years.

    Way to go Ohio.

  •  Two of us in our house voted two weeks ago in Ohio (1+ / 0-)
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    then received a call on Thursday from Ann Coulter (hurl) and a call (push poll) from the American "Family" Association on Friday. We've (my partner and myself, a gay couple!) already voted and they are calling OUR house. The Romney campaign also has a major targeting problem!

  •  We were robo-called on Thursday by (0+ / 0-)

    the Koch brother's little lapdog, Scott Walker, asking if we would be interested in volunteering (?!) here in Wisconsin for the RMoney campaign.

    Yesterday, it was Clint Eastwood.
    The furniture wasn't interested.

    Today it was Sarah Palin. Tundra-trash wound up her screed with a request to "stay on the line to give us your feedback on this message." Mrs ruleoflaw couldn't resist, so she waited. A recorded voice then asked if she would be interested in volunteering for the Romney Campaign. She pressed 2 for "no". She heard a click and a dial-tone.

    Mrs ruleoflaw and I are curious as to who will call tomorrow. Kid Rock? Ted Nugent? Kelsey Grammer?

    We always vote and have never, ever voted for a Republican. When phone polls call, we always answer honestly. Had they done their homework, they'd know that calling my house is a waste of time.

    The election is three days away and their GOTV in a swing state consists of random robo-calls? WTF? OFA was recruiting volunteers in Wisconsin the day after the primary election. Today our local headquarters had all the canvassers and callers they needed.

    Apparently, the Republicans were depending on the invisible hand of the marketplace to provide committed, enthusiastic campaign workers for $9 per hour. Vote for Willard. Hoo-fucking-rah.

    To be fair, the Dems are robo-calling too, but we've gotten just as many live calls. Tonight I got a call from "Jenna" with Jessica King's State Senate Campaign. I told her that I had already voted and that I had been out canvassing today for the President, and the rest of the Dems down-ticket, including Senator King. She was very pleased to hear that and I'm sure that she will take me off the call list.



    I started with nothing and still have most of it left. - Seasick Steve

    by ruleoflaw on Sat Nov 03, 2012 at 06:34:15 PM PDT

    •  Romney Robocalls (1+ / 0-)
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      I have gotten more robocalls in this election than any other in my lifetime--and I've been voting since 1984. The Romney campaign/GOP PACs/Rebublican National Committee have called an average of three times a day for a month. Yesterday, we got seven calls. I've been treated to recordings of Romney, Ann Romney, Scott Walker, John Kasich, Coulter, and Paul Ryan for weeks.

      The only live GOPers who have called have been pollsters hired by Josh Mandel's campaign--it's always the same woman reading from the same script and she never laughs at my jokes. They've called three times. All the other polls which have called--Public Policy and Gallup, mostly, have been robocalls.

      The calls I have gotten from OFA have mostly been to tell us when Obama, Biden, or Clinton are appearing witihin 100 miles of where we live. I've gotten two live calls from OFA--both times it was a nice lady in Columbus and we talked for a while and when I told them that our household had voted, and we were volunteering and donating, they were sweet and nice and never read from a script. NEVER. AND, after the second call, which was technically for my 22 year old daughter, they took us off the call list, because they recorded we had voted, were volunteering and donating.

      Got one call from the Democratic Congressional Committee--and she got a donation out of me even though I had just donated online, and that's because she told me a funny story about her nephew!

      What I'm basically saying here is this--the Democratic ground game is more organized and has the all-important human element in place. The GOP seems to be throwing a ton of money into robocalls here in Ohio (and have denuded a forest of trees for mailings) by making repeated calls to lifelong Democrats who don't want to hear from them! I wish they had real live folks on the phone so I could tell them that I'd sooner eat a hundred live cockroaches than vote for Romney!

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