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Hi, well, here on "election day" I guess it's(way way past..) time for me to post another
diary...I could go on and on about so many things, couldn't we all?
But in view of the "special" day this is and in view of the UNBELIEVABLE long lines
to vote, that people across the country are forced to endure as long as they are able-
voting or not since so many have to end up leaving before they actually "get to" vote,
I just have one question.
We in Oregon have had voting by mail for quite awhile, but even before this, I simply
don't remember ever waiting in line to vote, more than about 10 minutes. Since we happen to live close to the county seat, we actually just drop our ballots in the secure box
at the county court house drive through. I did this LAST WEEK !
 Please, I do not mean to put Oregon up as an elitist state by any means, I just don't get this !
What am I missing besides the usual Republican manipulation of voting ?

I guess there must be lots of factors, but if people here could just list some, maybe I will
be able to understand this better.

Thanks for your replies !


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  •  Standard criticism #1: Ballot is not secret. (2+ / 0-)
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    BleacherBum153, demimondian

    There is a fair amount of concern that in cases like abusive domestic relationships that the secrecy of the ballot will be compromised and someone will be coerced into voting differently than their actual preferences.

    Peer pressure still matters.

    -7.75 -4.67

    "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

    There are no Christians in foxholes.

    by Odysseus on Tue Nov 06, 2012 at 06:31:52 AM PST

    •  The data now indicates otherwise (1+ / 0-)
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      That's a valid concern, and it was considered in both Washington and Oregon before we moved over.  There are several reasons it was rejected.

      (1) It's not something new.  Controlling partners could have demanded their cohabitors request permanent mail-in status and then affected their votes prior to the change.  We didn't see that then.

      (2) And we have many elections to look at now.  Oregon and Washington State have both been running vote by mail only for some years, and we've not seen any evidence of these kinds of abuses across what is now many tens of different election cycles (consider: local and municipal elections, statewide elections, special elections, primary elections, bond-issue get the picture.  Out here, we vote a lot.)

      So that was a good question, but it has been answered.

  •  How do you know your vote was counted? (0+ / 0-)

    Once you mail in your ballot, how do you know it was recieved and counted?  Do you get a reciept back?  What keeps the GOP from throwing your vote out?

    I vote on a paper ballot, I feed it into the counter myself and I see my vote register.  I KNOW I voted, and I know it was counted.  I don't know that I could move away from a system like that.

  •  I worked at the Jackson County Election office (1+ / 0-)
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    in 2008.  Two weeks before Election Day we began receiving ballots. Workers verify the signature on the outside of the envelope and make sure it matches the signature on file from the voter registration. A non-partisan atmosphere is enforced and few people challenge that. Some folks are a bit obvious about who they favor (I look like an old hippy chick so I'll bet my co-workers knew I was an Obama voter) but the overwhelming feeling is that we all want everybody to vote and get their vote counted. If there is a problem with a signature, people are called right up until 8PM on election night. The most common glitch is for house mates to sign each others ballots. I worked so that I could see the Oregon voting process in person. I was impressed with the professionalism and non-political nature of the process from beginning to end. The problem in Clackamas County this week was appalling and disheartening. But she got caught and is being charged with a felony.

    I missed the moment-by-moment excitement on election night 2008 because I was working in a non-partisan bubble so I chose to not work this election and stay home and watch the map go blue.

    Go Obama!

    "Seed corn. It's what's for dinner!" Republican philosophy of governance

    by madame damnable on Tue Nov 06, 2012 at 08:11:02 AM PST

  •  Some very interesting and informed comments (0+ / 0-)

    here. It is nice to know that there is verification of ballot receipt and that in general the spirit of non-partisanship
    is what is expected in the electoral offices. Perhaps there
    is a reason to have trust in those who work there.

    Again, thanks for the replies.

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