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Although they are supposed to be disaster relief they can't seem to function in an actual disaster environment. They have closed relief centers instead of weathering the storm approaching with the residents that are still vulnerable and will be even more in need of assistance.

I look at what FEMA is doing and I think about all the things the Federal Government has done when it comes to focusing on a project and I just have to wonder why? We can push Rommel's tanks out of Africa but we can't provide emergency assistance to residents trying to rebuild from a catastrophic storm? We can build a canal across an isthmus but we can't provide shelter to Americans whose homes were stripped by the wind?

TOTTENVILLE — They fly into disaster areas, but flee from raindrops.
FEMA disaster recovery centers in Hurricane Sandy-ravaged sections of the city that were supposed to provide assistance to hurricane victims went MIA Wednesday morning, posting signs saying that they were closed due to the approaching Nor'easter.

The temporary shuttering of the facilities, which help victims register for disaster relief, as well as city food distribution centers come even as many of those still reeling from the monster storm were not told that they had to leave the battered areas.

On Tuesday, Mayor Bloomberg said that residents in the low-lying portions of Staten Island and the Rockaways were advised to leave ahead of the nor'easter, which could hit the city with 60 mph gusts and several inches of rain Wednesday afternoon, but that the evacuation was not mandatory like the one issued for all of Zone A ahead of Sandy.

The move left residents of the storm-ravaged areas fuming.

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  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)
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    eXtina, AoT, betson08, kurt, ladybug53, bumbi

    "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 11:51:57 AM PST

  •  As I look out my window at the snow coming down (5+ / 0-)

    right now, I can't imagine what someone a few miles away is dealing with, with their bombed out house open to the elements, or just no heat.

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 11:56:53 AM PST

  •  These are not shelters (6+ / 0-)

    These are offices where they take applications and push papers. There isn't much they can do in such weather conditions, there's no particular point in them staying to "ride out the storm" for show.  

    "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

    by Catte Nappe on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 11:59:29 AM PST

  •  This is incredible (5+ / 0-)

    My deceased father-in-law worked (high up) for FEMA back in the day. He watched as one feeble political appointee after another was given the grace-and-favor head of the agency job. By the time he retired I believe he was glad to do so. I strongly hope, given the climate change weather debacle that is coming upon us, that the president in the next four years will shore up this agency with real emergency management experts. There are plenty of them out there, and I bet many need a job. Let's rid FEMA of unqualified sinecure job holders and get professionals back in there. Yes we can!

    •  I worked for FEMA for about 8 months (5+ / 0-)
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      Xapulin, kurt, eXtina, ladybug53, AoT

      during the Clinton Administration, during Al Gore´s Reinventing Government initiative. It was just recovering its reputation and trying to be more customer service oriented. It did well in some situations and continued to fail in others. But it was hard not to see the military dead wood that had come to continue to collect paychecks there. All that did was militarize the language of the organization. Bush then decimated it, and I imagine that Obama had a hard time getting it back going again.

      FEMA should not have closed up during this storm unless the staff was in danger in that particular building. That is NOT how you communicate that you care to a community.

      (I wasn´t a permanent employee, and after I found out that everyone with my title had been hired at a grade higher than mine, I high tailed it out of there. They thought they´d play the labor market with my salary)

      Helping a food pantry on the Cheyenne River Reservation,Okiciyap." >www.okiciyap.yolasite.com<"

      by betson08 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 12:27:39 PM PST

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      •  Thank you (2+ / 0-)
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        FEMA should not have closed up during this storm unless the staff was in danger in that particular building. That is NOT how you communicate that you care to a community.

        "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

        by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 12:52:14 PM PST

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      •  Why should they have stayed open? (0+ / 0-)

        For one thing, presumably since evacuations are being recommended in the face of this storm there is some potential danger in almost any building in the area. But even if not, why should people be made to remain in an office that is unlikely to be able to accomplish any functional work during the duration of the storm? Applicants are unlikely to come, and would almost certainly be endangered in transit if they thought to go there.

        "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

        by Catte Nappe on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 12:59:35 PM PST

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        •  Give out information (3+ / 0-)
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          Be there for any new emergencies.

          Disaster Assistance Employees have worked in worse conditions, believe me.

          Again, if the building is in danger, I agree with the evacuation. At the very least, they didn't have to close early.

          Helping a food pantry on the Cheyenne River Reservation,Okiciyap." >www.okiciyap.yolasite.com<"

          by betson08 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 02:02:54 PM PST

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        •  The evacuations are being ordered in areas (2+ / 0-)
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          that were already hardest hit.  This office is not in a place where evacuations were ordered.  FEMA is not doing a good job right now in NYC.

          The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 02:48:12 PM PST

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        •  People are scared and this is the first time they (1+ / 0-)
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          have had to deal with this magnitude of deprivation. They need the touchstone of what is perceived as a powerful being (FEMA, Red Cross,...) so they can relieve themselves of the feeling of responsibility for correcting storm damage. Suddenly being thrown into nothingness is very damaging to the psyche.

          Have you ever had a nightmare where you scream for help and no one comes? These people are living that now.

          "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

          by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 05:00:22 PM PST

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    •  Isn't Fugate a pro? (2+ / 0-)
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      not a horse competition man?

    •  It's not your father-in-law's FEMA (2+ / 0-)
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      Obama does have "real emergency management experts" in charge.

      Prior to coming to FEMA, Fugate served as Director of the Florida Division of Emergency Management. In that role since 2001, he managed 138 full-time staff and a budget of $745 million. His agency coordinated disaster response, recovery, preparedness and mitigation efforts with each of the state's 67 counties and local governments.

      Fugate began his emergency management career as a volunteer firefighter, Emergency Paramedic, and finally as a Lieutenant with the Alachua County Fire Rescue. Eventually, he moved from exclusive fire rescue operations to serving as the Emergency Manager for Alachua County in Gainesville, Fla.

      http://www.fema.gov/...
      Serino brings 35 years of state and local emergency management and emergency medical services experience to his position at FEMA. Prior to his appointment as Deputy Administrator, he served as Chief of Boston EMS and Assistant Director of the Boston Public Health Commission. In that role, he bolstered the city's response plans for major emergencies, including chemical, biological, and radiological attacks. He also led citywide planning for H1N1 influenza.

      Serino has served as an Incident Commander for over 35 mass casualty incidents and for all of Boston's major planned events, including the Boston Marathon, Boston's Fourth of July celebration, First Night, and the 2004 Democratic National Convention, a National Special Security Event.

      http://www.fema.gov/...

      You might check the diversity of experience of other leaders on the FEMA site, as well.

      "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

      by Catte Nappe on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 12:55:49 PM PST

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  •  Fix Everything? My Ass. (2+ / 0-)
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    ...learned the hard way, in NOLA.

    May it turn out better for folks in the aftermath of Sandy.

    Cheers.

  •  Meanwhile what FEMA has ACTUALLY done to help you (3+ / 0-)
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    After Hurricane Sandy smashed into the region last week, President Barack Obama authorized emergency shipments of up to 24 million gallons of gasoline and diesel fuel to the area. The Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), an arm of the Defense Department, scoured fuel sources as far away as Louisiana, Michigan and Florida and put 230 tankers on the road with the fuel.

    As of Monday, 313,000 gallons of gasoline and 157,000 gallons of diesel fuel had been delivered to distribution sites in New York and New Jersey operated by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), DLA officials told The Huffington Post.

    On Saturday, crowds had thronged the few gas stations which had received FEMA gasoline after officials announced that free gas was available. Those supplies quickly ran out.

    SNIP
    FEMA administrator W. Craig Fugate said Monday that more than 217,000 people in the affected regions have signed up for FEMA assistance and more than $199 million in grants has been provided. Most of the assistance, about $193 million, has gone to pay for emergency housing. FEMA has approved 32,000 applicants for expedited rental assistance and 34,000 applications for short-term lodging in hotels, he said.
    LINK

    AND their INCREASING Rental assistance

    LINK

    FEMA officials announced today it would increase assistance to 125 percent of the fair market rates in order to make 3,000 additional rental units available, including 1,200 in New Jersey.

    The allowable rate for a two-bedroom apartment in Hudson County, for example, would increase from $1,322 to $1,625. In Essex County, the allowable rate for a two-bedroom unit would rise from $1,202 to $1,502.

    FEMA will allow disaster survivors to rent properties above these new rates, but they will only be reimbursed for 125 percent of HUD’s fair market rates.

    •  NO THEY HAVE NOT (2+ / 0-)
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      As of Monday, 313,000 gallons of gasoline and 157,000 gallons of diesel fuel had been delivered to distribution sites in New York and New Jersey operated by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), DLA officials told The Huffington Post.
      There is NO gas. I am going on two weeks of not being able to travel to clients and earn ANY income as a result of not being able to obtain gas.

      but believe what  you read on a random website

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 01:44:05 PM PST

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      •  That was Huffpo quoting from FEMA (0+ / 0-)

        so not exactly a random site.

         You however are the I am going to bitch about everything because I have not gotten help and not acknowledge anything else that is going on person I have seen in several Sandy diaries so I am not surprised you popped in.

        •  Oh and per Cuomo (0+ / 0-)

          Gas issues should ease by the end of this week. Logistic issues are being resolved

          http://www.nydailynews.com/...

          •  so they say, and so they have been saying for (1+ / 0-)
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            AoT

            almost two weeks
            no idea why i should believe this time they'll be right

            imo this is a MAJOR DISASTER - if gas supplies can be so easily disrupted by a single storm, this is an indication of serious infrastructure problems and a far greater threat to naitonal security than the terrorism we have been trained to worry about

            and as to 'huffpo' not being a random site - my real reality trumps your virtual reality

            "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

            by eXtina on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 05:21:53 PM PST

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          •  OH and per Cuomo, and Bloomberg they've (0+ / 0-)

            revised that in a SHOCKING surprise.

            They now say that MORE not LESS gas stations are closed or out of fuel, from 34% to 38%, there is now a gas rationing system in place because the problem is getting worse, not better, and it is not expected to improve for WEEKS which puts us past Thanksgiving the busiest travel holiday of the year.

            So you're actually wrong about ligistical issues being resolved. Not even close.

            "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

            by eXtina on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:53:52 PM PST

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        •  because it's not happening (1+ / 0-)
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          You however are the I am going to bitch about everything because I have not gotten help and not acknowledge anything else that is going on person I have seen in several Sandy diaries so I am not surprised you popped in.
          the rest are people like you from thousands of miles away quoting nonsense from FEMA from huffpo, patting yourselves on the back for things getting 'done' while being in no position to make any judgement about whether anything has been done or not

          "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

          by eXtina on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 05:24:30 PM PST

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      •  Quoting FEMA (2+ / 0-)
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        An agency that has done so stellarly so far.

        "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

        by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 04:46:15 PM PST

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    •  FEMA is going to make rental units (0+ / 0-)

      'available'? In NY? HOw do they intend to make them 'available'? There is a zero vacancy rate in New York. Are they going to kick people out of existing apartments to make them available for those displaced?

      And those increases still aren't enough to cover an apt in NY (If you could find one), a typical 2 br in Queens is about $2,500

      So you don't really have much of an argument.

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 02:57:08 PM PST

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  •  This may well be a mistake (0+ / 0-)

    However, it may also be an effort to avoid giving encouragement to people to stay in "evacuation areas."

    In order to know which, I would need to see a map of the locations of the offices being shuttered and the areas covered by evacuation orders or recommendations. Has anyone seen such a map?

    Speak the truth, but ride a fast horse.

    by Deep Harm on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 01:14:46 PM PST

  •  Kind of hard to get gas when several of your (0+ / 0-)

    refineries are still off line. Which I believe are run by private companies NOT the city or state.

    Perhaps you should be venting your wrath on them and not FEMA.

    I'm not saying FEMA is perfect but what I am saying is make sure you blame the right people.

    This storm was the biggest this country has ever seen in terms of surge and damage. It cannot be expected to to have things back to normal in a few weeks.

    They are doing what they can as fast as they can. All I am saying is that unless you have a magical way to fix everything in one day blaming Obama, Bloomberg and whoever else will not make things any easier.

    What are your suggestions for housing all these people who are homeless? How would you solve these problems? Have you ever handled a crisis such as this in your life?  

    Ever single diary that goes up about NY you come in and do nothing but complain. How does that help solve any of these problems at all?

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