Skip to main content

[Disclaimer: There may be some generalizations in this e-mail, and yes I know individuals can be different]

Look out for that meme. That minorities, Latinos, Asians, Blacks etc are "natural conservatives" and that we're voting against our self-interest, mostly because we want free stuff.  

You saw some of that from Bill O'Reilly's remarkably bitter (but commendably honest actually) comments about the "white establishment" not dominating everything any more.

Some of their more 'intellectual' types like the NRO guys think it's a matter of "outreach to clearly explain and articulate conservative principles". They're missing the point. They're making the error of assuming 'they' are 'just like us' in terms of their priorities. Implicit in that world view is a type of thinking that suggests "if only you learn to think and act just like us, you would see that life would be so much better than you."  Yes, we all want a better life, like people like us, etc etc but cultural orientation matters. They seem to think parading Marcio Rubio and Gov. Martinez around will solve their problem. Think about this--did Sarah Palin bring in women in 2008? Would Herman Cain or Allen West get more than 15% of the AA vote in general election? Doubtful since it's the policies stupid.

Yes African-Americans go to church.  Yes Latino's are family oriented.  But they're also from 'we-look-out-for-each-other' backgrounds in which people take care of each other. They may be more oriented towards long-term thinking, than short-term thinking  See the Calvinist/WASP emphasis on individualism is not an inherently human condition.  That's the assumption of those that keep repeating "common-sense conservative solutions" mantra ad-infinitum.

Having themselves been persecuted or having had to overcome some institutional barriers some communities might especially identify with social justice policies for example.  

Or think about how someone from a Buddhist-Confucian background would view a trigger-happy foreign policy.  Or think about the social harmony or collectivist (relative to hyper individualism I mean) orientation of far eastern philosophies.

It actually makes perfect sense that we minorities vote Democrat.

It won't matter if the GOP stick Bobby Jindal on their next national ticket. They're in trouble in part because of their self-defeating tone yes, and their horrible optics yes, but the token minority approach would be papering over the cracks.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  When all you've got is tokens it's hard to get (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Cassandra Waites

    others to accept you have any real value.

    And that's all minorities are to the GOP -- tokens. They haul them out to pretend "we're not racists!" or "we're not misogynists!". I don't think they will ever come to grips with that fact and thus will continue to fade (though painfully slowly) as a political party.

    To me progress is not so much a goal as it is a process and I believe it will not follow a straight course. Remember, the drops of water that form the river may not take the shortest path but they will still reach the ocean.

    by ontheleftcoast on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 09:47:12 AM PST

  •  Still, I expect them to do this, (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Cassandra Waites

    and I expect them to be moderately successful at it.  Why?  Because they have no choice.

    And putting aside that BS about being a "natural constituency," there really is nothing to keep Hispanics from changing loyalties if the Republicans stop being crazy and stop hating Hispanics.  If/when they are ready to marginalize those Tea-Party loons like Joe Arpaio for the sake of the rest of the party, when they're ready to quit catering to "illegal immigrant" paranoia, yeah, I think they will find that a lot of Hispanics will switch sides.

    Blacks and Jews in this country are married to the Democratic Party right now for deep reasons of a cultural nature and historical nature.  But people whose patriarchs are still relatively new immigrants are not as likely to feel that kind of irrevocable cultural bond.  

    I think a change of message would work wonders for them.  They don't really need to get all Hispanics.  They just need to get more than the 27% or so they are getting now.

    (Yes, I know many Hispanic families in this country have longer roots in this country than Euro-whites, but that's not whom we are talking about).  

  •  Looks to me like Texas got redder (0+ / 0-)

    Maybe the numbers aren't finalized, but it appears Obama did worse in 2012 than 2008, and Romney did better than McCain...

    Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore

    by Minerva on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 10:31:10 AM PST

  •  Go figure (0+ / 0-)

    Mexican vote for the PAN and the PRI, which are even mosre racist, incompetent and corrupt than the Republicans.

    (People are willing to die in the Sonoran desert to get away from the PAN and the PRI.  People aren't willing to die to get away from Republicans.)

    But Mexican-Americans vote for the Democrats.

    Weird.

    •  Different country and issues at stake (0+ / 0-)

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:45:40 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  You nailed it! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DruidQueen, Cassandra Waites

    "Yes African-Americans go to church.  Yes Latino's are family oriented.  But they're also from 'we-look-out-for-each-other' backgrounds in which people take care of each other. "

    You put into words what I've been thinking. The media doesn't report on this difference at all. There are cultural differences -- not just skin-color differences. Plus, Repubs have been talking about attracting Latinos for some time -- they have NO idea how to actually do it.

    The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

    by LiberalLady on Thu Nov 08, 2012 at 11:44:33 AM PST

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site